0:01In West Virginia, you could technically like a horse, a >> chicken even chicken >> if you can find a way to do it.
0:08>> There's like a lot of geometrically. I don't know how much that makes sense.
0:13>> If you if you're packing what I am, it's possible.
0:15>> It's possible.
0:17>> You have to be in the mic the MP the micro penis category.
0:21>> Flaccid or full?
0:22>> It's to me it looks the same all the time.
0:24>> Okay. Have you like ever like sized up a chicken? I'm like I listen >> I've done more than science to help you.
0:30[laughter] >> Tommy [snorts] G, it's great to have you back, bro. It's always always awesome to have you in the studio.
0:37>> Glad to be here. Jerseyy's finest I'm with right now.
0:40>> Goddamn right. Yes, sir.
0:41>> I was just thinking about this cuz we talk all the time, but we have not seen each other since the the water boarding last June.
0:49>> Yeah, that which was a remarkable event, I would say. I Have you had any PTSD?
0:54No, no PTSD from it, but 11 out of 10.
0:57Wouldn't recommend doing it again. For sure.
0:59>> Aren't you glad you did it? You just don't want to repeat it.
1:02>> That's right. Yeah, I know. I I think it was an interesting experience because it also shows >> to me what our guys in the special forces what they must actually go through because version of >> Exactly. This is It's not even a 2% version. We got like the 0.1% version.
1:18We got like the They showed up the first day of camp and they're like, "All right, real quick. we're going to warm up and you and I were like in hell. And then think about those guys like the Navy Seals. They then do the equivalent of like 6 months of that.
1:30>> It's insane, bro.
1:32>> Those guys are they're a different breed >> to get that tough. Um when you merge on the other side of that, you got to feel pretty confident when you roam the world.
1:42>> I think so. I think so. It definitely like there's a switch that's different in some of those guys and you wonder how much of that just existed and was just brought to the surface with their training that they got through whether it be in Buds or with the Green Beretss or or or with Delta versus like maybe it's built through doing that.
2:05Well, I think there's a certain level of crazy and ambitious and durable that you just show up to the party with, but only when you go through, you know, a six-month wrestling season or a Muay Thai fight camp or a Green Beret training session do you like that it gets cemented, it gets proven and then it's real.
2:23>> Yeah. And you've done a bunch of stuff though, like not just that, but you know, you did the whole hostage thing with the mercenary team. you've gone into these jails now and like lived that which is hilarious and scary at the same time. Like you know that's what I've always really admired about you with your stories and what you go do. You're about that life. Like you will go in be in the nitty-gritty and even if you're doing something that's like a simulation or something like that like >> I mean you should have heard this guy off camera like you want it all the way.
2:56You're like no no no turn the volume up.
2:58Let's go. Let's see what this is. I think when I can dive into the experiential journalism side, it's really fun because then it also gives the context that I need when I'm doing the voiceovers to actually it's one thing when I say I want to go to France, it's another place where I've been to France. And I think that's the the difference.
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3:35>> You should have come to Italy with us.
3:37>> I was too busy spying on flock safety.
3:39>> Spying on flock safety. You flipped it around on him.
3:42>> Oh, yeah. So, the mission was this. We We met up with this YouTuber named Ben Jordan who's done some of the best journalism on flock that I've seen so far. And he's a very big tech guy. So, he's he's very sophisticated. He's un he's undoing the camera, showing the the vulnerabilities. But anyways, we visited the Flock headquarters and it turns out they had moved and there's no signage on the building. The initial mission was to go there. We were going to film all the license plates, which for those not familiar, Flock Safety is a license plate reader camera system that your city council or your local sheriff votes
4:12in. And the argument is, hey, it helps us track violent criminals. And we've seen it in action with the US Marshalss where there's a guy on the run for, you know, a home invasion and they use it to track him to his house. They move in, they arrest him, you know, guy off the street. So there is positive use applications with flock safety, but it's kind of like data centers where these things are creeping into our cities without us really wanting them there.
4:33Like the the polls I put on Instagram and YouTube were both at about 90% no, I don't want flock in my city. So the exercise we were going to film the employee license plates, then we're going to run go to Ben Jordan's house, run it through his algorithm. He made this little software program where we were going to track each license plate and then it shows all the information that you can get from looking up someone's license plate. And it's a pretty revealing exercise. And so then the the second thing we were going to do is put them under surveillance. And so we went to their first headquarters, no
5:01signage on the building, completely anonymous. Um they moved out and we had a little interaction with their security. They called the cops on us.
5:08Boom. We found their next location. We went there. Also nondescript building, no signage up front. Um and we were stopped by the dormman on the first floor. And then Yes. And then the the last one, we went to their drone headquarters where they're that's part of what they're going to do is like a first responder. They send out a drone to the scene that's surveilling as soon as something happens, which again could have positive use applications. No doubt about it. Um, but we go to their their drone headquarters and it's a it's a construction company is what the front looks like. And so we look around this
5:38entire huge building. Nothing says flock. And so what we do, we had an old flock camera that they these tech guys got off eBay. We had my camera guys.
5:46>> Can we pull up what that looks like, D?
5:49they're building I it might not even be listed and and that's this is part of the point is they're one of the biggest surveillance companies in the country yet they obviously hold privacy as a really high regard and so you a lot of people see cameras like this in their city. So anyways, we started filming their employees and when they would pull up in their car and I'd be like, "Hey sir, just want to let you know you're under surveillance, but don't worry, it's for your safety." And [laughter] they were all spooked and they get away and I was like running their running with their car uh with the camera. And
6:20then another employee comes up and I'm like, "Hey sir, do you work for Flock?"
6:23He's like, "Flock? Never heard of it.
6:24What's that? I'm actually for this construction company." Like, "Okay, probably not, but okay." [laughter] Then the police come in, they box our car in from leaving the parking lot. And even people in that in that uh business area that were trying to just go to work, they they held him there and and they're like, "No, you got to talk with this guy. We before you leave." And I'm like, "So, are you detaining me? We have a showdown with the police. Were they wrongfully or just keeping me there, not answering my questions?" Anyways, we talked with the flock guy and he's like, "You know what? I felt very unsafe." I
6:53said, "Sir, did you feel unsafe because we were filming you?" And he's like, "Yes." I'm like, >> "Oh."
6:58>> Like, come on now.
6:59>> Shoes on the other foot now, huh, partner?
7:01>> Yes. And I don't know when this episode is coming out, but there's a chance that Flock is going to let us come back to their headquarters and actually talk to them. And I do believe Flock is a yin-yang. I I don't want to just portray them as this evil company. But I think what a lot of people can get concerned about with Flock is one the scope creep.
7:17So they initially tell you that they're coming in to track license plates. Uh which by the way can be used poorly.
7:22Like any powerful technology, it's like the ring in the Lord of the Rings. It depends on who's holding it whether it's good or evil. It's not the technology itself. Um, but cops have been known to follow their exes or stalk people using it.
7:34>> Oh, no.
7:34>> But, um, the scope creep is this. Now, there I think they they just did a software update where now it can listen to audio. And so, once these cameras are in, just like with your phone, there's a automatic update that no one voted for and three or four city council members approved just to put them in for the first scope creep, but now boom, now it's audio, now it's facial. And I think that the the slippery slope that we are all worried about is one, how much of this data would you ever sell? And two, if our government becomes even more tyrannical uh and oppressive, how can this system be now weaponized with you?
8:10All it takes is one event to happen where all of a sudden nationwide now for safety, we have to bring in the flock system and all the other competitors because there's many people that actually do this service um to do this for American safety. And then that's where it's like I feel uncomfortable, >> dude. It's everywhere. It's And obviously we've seen the precedents like you're talking about whether you go back to the Patriot Act after 9/11 and all the things they did there. But have you even seen as a side note here just on what you're saying, have you seen the FISA 702 thing that they keep >> approving? All right. So De, can we pull
8:43up Trump Truth Social?
8:47>> Favorite platform guy to follow on that platform.
8:49>> Favorite guy to plat. You're a big fan of his, right?
8:51>> Tremendous fan.
8:52>> Tremendous fan.
8:53>> I think he's by far the best >> best foreign policy we've ever had.
8:56>> Yeah. I don't think he's really corrupt at all. Like his administration is so above board and like it's only like a few hundred million at a time that they like piler away and steal >> so much.
9:05>> I think they're doing a really great job. [laughter] >> All right. Yes. So, it's this one. Where is Nobody understands this better than me. Okay.
9:13>> That's what he says about every topic.
9:14>> Go up. Go up. Go up because I I actually want to read this. So this was this had to be a month or two ago, but he tweets out or truth. This was in March. So he truths out speaker of the house Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader John Thun have been working to pass a clean extension of FISA section 702, a law that was passed many years ago by Congress to collect intelligence on foreigners and non-citizens when used properly. Big term there. FISA is an effective tool to keep Americans safe.
9:42For those for these reasons, I've called for a clean 18-month extension. However, the critical common sense reforms that were made, the last reauthorization of FISA must remain intact to protect the American people from abuses. Nobody understands this better than me. I was a victim of the worst and most illegal abuses of FISA in our nation's history by radical left lunatics who lied to the FISA court to spy on me in 2016. I I can't keep doing that. Presidential campaign [laughter] in their attempt to rig the election in favor of crooked Hillary Clinton. That is why since my first day of my already historic second
10:14term, my administration has worked tirelessly to ensure that reforms are being aggressively executed at every level. Da da da da with the ongoing successful. Go down.
10:23>> Very successful.
10:24>> Go down. Where does he say?
10:26>> So where does it actually?
10:27>> Oh no, there's a So there's a second one he did.
10:30>> Definitely worth the full read on that one for sure.
10:32>> Trump says give up li I'm willing to to give up a little bit of freedom for safety. He literally did the backwards of the Ben Franklin.
10:42>> Oh, they do it.
10:43>> But that's insane. Like this is what he even says that that correctly. This is what they used against him >> to do to him. And then he's like, "But I'm willing to give up some of my freedom [snorts] for a little bit of safety."
10:56>> How noble.
10:57>> All right. Here it is right here. He goes, so this is from April 15th. Yeah.
11:01So I He goes, "And perhaps would be used against me in the future. I am willing to risk the giving up of my rights and privileges as a citizen for our great military and country. But he threw in an exclamation point. So that that that means, you know, it's all good.
11:15[sighs and gasps] >> This is where it gets really scary because just like um like another point I eventually want to cover is when we've been looking at these data centers, most of these data centers are serviced by Checkpoint, which is an Israeli cyber security firm. and their CEO went on camera and news station to say the only way to protect the fir the first amendment no second no first amendment is to limit it >> and it's like >> and so everything that invades our rights as a citizen is brought under the guise of safety and the thing is there's a slight truth to that like is China more safe than the United States right
11:49now yeah I I don't think in their major cities they have a Memphis or a St.
11:53Louis or Chicago issue, but they're also you can't rebel. You can't say your opinion. So like at what level do we want to trade our safety for freedom and um or vice versa? And I think that's the continuum that we always have to f balance. And I think if our government had a wonderful immaculate reputation of taking care of our people and not doing all this nonsense, it'd be easy to trust. But you know that as soon as you give up that initial inch, they take it a mile. 100% they do it. It's more than a mile. I mean, and they do things in back rooms while they're distracting you, fighting over something else. Like
12:31even with the data center thing right now, which I think is really important.
12:33We should talk about that. Like I'm like, what's this other they're doing on the other side while everyone's fighting over Kevin O's flip-flops? You know what I mean? Like there's always something with that where my head's like, what's this a distraction for? No matter how big the story is. I hate that I have to [snorts] think that way, but that's how they roll. The mattress industry is full of markup, marketing, and brands charging a fortune for something Ghost Bed builds better for half the price.
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14:10Seaside for details. The matador waving the flag and we are the bowl. And it works because why wouldn't you look at the red flag? We're just trained to look at the red flag. And it is uh I think we have grown up in a country that historically is a very high trust country pound-for-pound. I mean, yes, there's always been corruption, but like >> there's a lot of places around the world where measured to them, we are a very little least corrupt country. And uh but I think we have to get wrap our heads around that. um things are changing and I don't know if it's the falling of the empire or like people are just sucking
14:41it dry before the golden calf, you know, before we're just discarded. But um it it's almost like we're too polite too like to because other countries when this stuff happens they immediately hit the streets like Albania when Kushner is trying to build the bunker, hundreds of thousands of them hit the street and then they shut it down.
14:58>> Why is it so hard for us to do that?
15:00because we've never been invaded and it shows the last time we were [snorts] invaded besides the two major terrorist attacks of September 11th and Pearl Harbor which were one-day attacks was the War of 1812. And so we have always had geographic privilege in this country with oceans on both sides to protect us and the people of the north and the people of the south. We have problems obviously with the cartels and and like that coming from the south, but from a geopolitical economic like militant threat.
15:32>> Yeah. They haven't been that for >> Mexico probably for at least 150 years relatively speaking to us. So we don't understand like when you go to these other places, pick anywhere on the map, go to Saudi Arabia, go to China, go to Greece, go to Russia, go to Ukraine, go to even the UK which is an island.
15:51there's always some sort of like size, geopolitical, economic tie threat that's right there in front of them.
16:00>> What it doesn't mean, and this is where your point's well taken, is that we don't have that here. We just have the illusion that it doesn't exist because we're separate. We're better. We're we're complacent. Like that's how people think.
16:12>> And it's also our our own doing it. Like Exactly. Like they want to kind of tell us to me it feels like propaganda that like China wants to wants to take us down right now. Like to me, my what's threatening to me is not a Chinese official trying to maneuver on the chessboard. It's my own government trying to do things that repeatedly like they take so much of your taxes and then instead of putting it in infrastructure, they put it in war. And we've been taught that anything that our own tax money would go to help us as an entitlement, but when they waste our money, it's business as usual. We've
16:41just been kind of trained to accept this business as usual pattern. And it's uh I think most people are finding it intolerable. And the cool thing is hitting the streets across the country.
16:52Even my own neighborhood. I have neighbors across the political spectrum like we're all kind of starting to meet back in the middle and say we're ready to shake hands and unite.
17:01>> That could be the great thing about this moment. You know, I've been quote unquote now they have the term for it.
17:06I've been blackpilled since 2017. And it felt like for a long time that was like the frustrating part when I would talk with people what not just on the show but like just in general who were like firmly left or firmly right and not try to change their opinion or whatever but show them over the years my perspective of like why I think they're all kind of the same >> blind to half the problem.
17:27>> Yeah. And for a while it felt like it would never get upstairs for people. And over the last year, like having conversations with people on both sides of the spectrum, there's some things that get upstairs and I'm like, you know, maybe that could be a good thing to come out of this. But, you know, I I mean, are you starting a tax revolution?
17:45Is that is that what's going on out there in [ __ ] Milwaukee?
17:48>> I don't want to give away all my tax what's happening just for the for the record in case the IRS is listening.
17:53But, let's just say um I think we getting a little more creative this year.
17:58>> Getting creative. Don't tell De's an IRS agent at night.
18:02I think we owe I think we owe it to ourselves to that's the only leverage we have. So, I'm just I'm keeping a little bit back. I'm keeping uh maybe like a good percentage back of what I should be paying right now.
18:17>> I don't know if that was a Well, actually, you know what? Let me just say [laughter] let me just say this and that might actually completely change [laughter] due to the fact that the accountant that I'm now working for is following Trumpian accounting which you you know this guy >> you know this guy >> and so to me it's actually like not only will I probably end up paying less or I might get a refund but I'm now playing by the rules that the people collecting our taxes use anyway. So it's like you guys like I was if if the country was flowing smoothly, people were doing great affordable housing, affordable
18:48healthcare, all that stuff and I'm paying my whatever 41%.
18:53Okay. But because it's going to in a hand basket, I'm going to follow the Trump rules that when I pay more in taxes than Donald Trump, dude, I get fired up. You should get fired up. But it's like there's also it's been a while since I was in the finance world or whatever, but that was one of the craziest things to learn about is the creativity with which the ultra wealthy will legally like actually I'm not even talking about illegal stuff, but the legal stuff of loopholes to not pay taxes, whether it be funneling it through fine art, which like I didn't even know that was a thing before I was white collar crime.
19:30>> Yeah. like all like but that's that's the point like they can legally do it cuz by the way who are the people paying the people who make the laws who set the up them.
19:39>> It's the Epstein class.
19:41>> It's the Epstein class for sure. This is cool though, bro. Because like when you and I first met two and a half years ago, you know, you had really blown up your channel and were already one of the best documentary filmmakers on YouTube and everything doing amazing stories down like in places people didn't want to go and stuff like that. But you've really expanded the scope >> Yeah.
20:07>> of what you do now. And now I look at you and I go, "Yo, if we're talking about like the Mount Rushmore on YouTube of like investigative journalists where it's going to be any kind of story any given day, you're on it." I think I have some work to do. I appreciate those kind words, but this is what happened is because most of the stuff we covered early on in the channel were a lot of hood videos, gangs, hood, crime, which at that time was really fun to cover.
20:32Um, then we had a team meeting at the end of last year and every single one of the guys on my team, four guys that are are hustling, four editors, three four shooters, three editors I should say.
20:41Um, and together that's four people. Uh, all of them said, I've had enough of the hood. Like, we just got to do a lot less. It's not fun anymore.
20:48>> Miguel didn't like the trap houses.
20:50>> He that was a little fun. Plus, that was a new break in the action. But, and we covered it like a Business Insider episode, and I'll tell you about that in a little bit. But um I wanted that the the the meta for this year is busting corruption and then people's champ story. So what are issues that 80 90% of Americans really care about and are so the data centers, the Israeli military merger, the Pentagon wasting our money?
21:14I want to cover stuff that the average American sits at home and says, "This channel sees what I care about and it feels like we're fighting for them." And so that has been a fun a fun shift that we want to continue.
21:26>> Yeah, we'll keep doing it because like and and it's really, you know, you open yourself, especially when you start getting involved in the things that the very wealthy people in this country like to keep their rackets going on. That's where you start to hit the baseball bat against the against the the bees nest.
21:46And >> yeah, there's definitely a handful, many pieces actually that I'm nervous when it gets launched cuz I'm like, "Okay, how is this going to go?" Like for instance, the most recent one I would say would be questioning the Jewish rabbis about questions that are floating around the internet and especially my algorithm was like, "Yeah, I really want to know some of these answers."
22:04>> So what kinds of what kind of questions?
22:05>> Questions like um what do you believe about the current state of Jesus and what some of these guys I would say this is more um Haba Orthodox would be the the primary sampling size. So this isn't representative of the whole umbrella but would be you know Jesus is burning in hell in sperm or semen or or a [ __ ] um questions like you know what what is a [ __ ] and what do you think of a [ __ ] and is there a supremacist notion um questions like Palestine and the West Bank can Israeli settlers just take that land and they were these guys were acted like they were blindfolded like they've never seen a news story about what's
22:39happening in the West Bank when in fact Habat settlements are all over the West Bank and I Do you think that that was just like total >> they've been propagandized >> or they're just genuinely figning shock, but they know exactly what's happening.
22:53>> They have to know. They invited Ben Gavir to their 7070 building.
22:56>> No.
22:57>> And they they marched in the streets with Smote Rich, I believe. So, it's like >> these guys have to know what's going on.
23:02Um, but it's funny cuz they we each looked at each other like we were each existing in our own propaganda bubble, which is to some extent is probably true. But what I really felt good about after this episode is I talked to nearly everyone from that episode and they were all happy. They thought I represented them well and they wanted me to do a part two which to me was like okay cuz I didn't want to I'm not in this to like whack people with a hammer and like it's weird in an investigative piece. I still want to be friends with the guy at the end of the day if it's possible. Like I still want to highlight what I think is
23:33off. Like to think nothing's happening in the West Bank. You're out of your mind. Like how can you even believe that? But the fact that he he's like, "You know what? I thought you my piece came out well. You can come back and cover the Habach movement." Perfect.
23:45Thank you.
23:46>> That's that's great to hear that that's how they looked at it because I know that it's it's getting into the territory where you are asking hard questions cuz there are objectively some horrible things going on right now. And we see it to where it's also now like pulling in an entire race of people.
24:03Some people of whom there will be like rabid Zionists here. And it's like, okay, fine. You believe in the existence of of a Jewish state. Cool. Does that mean you should support every [ __ ] thing they're doing? Does that mean you should support Benjamin Netanyahu or the Ben Gavver of the world? Absolutely not.
24:20You know, and and you have to ask people those kinds of questions. So, when you go do that, you make a full documentary and everything, they know some of the previous content you've done and they're like, "Hey, come back and do more." I think, you know, [gasps] we haven't seen a lot of positive signs with this whole [ __ ] situation. That's that is how at least the conversation starts and maybe maybe something downstream happens. But you can't I don't think you can fix the issues going on with the actions that the Netanyahu government has taken without two things happening. [snorts] Him and the people around him being
24:57voted out and gone, >> which is likely it seems like at the moment.
25:01>> I hope it's likely, but he's the guy that never dies, bro. And secondly, there also needs to be hard conversations about the relationship between us and the Israelis. You know, I have no problem with having allies around the world. I have a problem with when allies are doing or making us do things that are not in our best interest.
25:20>> We're attaching us ourselves to the most diabolical country probably in existence right now. Like the things these people are doing are unbelievable. And I think I think the average Jewish person is in a little bit of a tough spot because on one end throughout their history it's been a us against the world type of feeling. And so they only have this this one place and it's this pretty small place. And so it's like it's like any tribal mentality. Even if your tribe messes up like you handle it internally but you don't want to show to the outside world that you're there's squabbbling or infighting or you don't
25:50agree. and because they're so vastly outnumbered, um I think they they just feel that way. But what I am curious about is what percentage of Jewish Americans agree with the the tactics of the Israeli government.
26:04>> I think yeah, I think cuz I was, you know, I was um driving through my community the other day >> and I saw a Jewish community center. I'm like, okay, I'm just going to look at their website and see like what kind of stuff goes on here. And sure enough, on a weekly basis, they're inviting a IDF soldier to talk about the courageous, brave struggle of what they're facing out there. And it's like, >> I thought these were the more like I was in my head, I'm like, okay, these aren't like the more uh right-wing orthodox types. Like these are guys that you you wouldn't even really know that they're
26:31Jewish when you walk around they walk around your community. So, I'm like, I thought they and if from what I how I've broken down the political spectrum is you got the um the secular guys who could be on either side. um the reform Jewish folks that are more pretty progressive leftwing and then um they're conservative which is more middle and then you have their their orthodox which is rightwing and when I saw even a a group that I thought was going to be more on the middle or left side of the spectrum having propaganda meetings and then uh for IDF soldiers and also I think recruiting is done for the IDF
27:03through these different JCC's which is >> okay. Um, >> yeah.
27:08>> But the other thing that I thought was pretty hilarious, uh, like the jokes write themselves, is I'm like, you know, I just want to maybe I just go in and talk to these guys, you know? I saw to have coffee to talk about contemporary Jewish issues. It was like a $72 charge.
27:22And I was like >> 70 for what? Like >> to have coffee at the Jewish Community Center and just sit around and talk about current Jewish issues.
27:30>> 72 bucks.
27:31>> And apparently that number is significant. Like it's like multiples of 18 or something is are significant. and they charge for their things and maybe that's how they fund their rabbis and I don't know but I just thought [laughter] could you imagine going to a church or a mosque and the priest being like yeah you can come talk about current Catholic issues but it's going to cost you $72 >> nuts >> cuz because the other thing that I think we have to wrap our heads around with >> there's a lot of insular Jewish communities so you want to break that down >> up in Jewish tradition giving gifts and
28:01charitable donations in multiples of 18 is a widespread custom because the number 18 represents high the the the Hebrew word for life.
28:10>> So apparently I was giving them four lives if you break it down mathematically.
28:14>> Yeah. Four lives for a coffee.
28:15>> Um >> and a nice combo.
28:18>> The the thing is some of these groups are very insular. They do not want to integrate and you see that in New York.
28:24And I think that's another thing that Americans are struggling with are cuz we're the hey we're the melting pot of the world. you got all these different cultures coming in and innovating and then we have these other cultures that um they come in here and then they they don't want to integrate and then it seems like the other thing that's crazy is a lot of these places that don't want to integrate are also heavily using the welfare system. And so like here's here's a a story that I want to dive into the compare and contrast of this.
28:51There's I I think you should be allowed to self uh segregate. I don't think that's an issue if Jewish >> like your ethnic community.
28:57>> Yeah. if like an Orthodox Jewish community says, "Hey, we like because they have impressive schools. They like they have wonderful things happening where they have really I admire the community that is in that is there um wonderful family traditions." So, if they want to do that, cool. But it should be on their own money, not the American tax dollar. Now, on the other side, you have a controversial movement in Arkansas, the return to land movement, which is a whites only movement. And they are doing it purely funded. And now they have, I believe it's a Jewish activist out of St. Louis, a lady, a Jewish lady married to a black
29:29man that applied only to try and sue them and now is suing them. Again, the jokes write themselves. And but it's like, how does how does this white group, they're not allowed to do it on their own dime, but then we have to subsidize and there's a common friend.
29:42I'm not going to name him because uh let's just say threeletter agency, common friend in the area. Um he investigated the Orthodox communities and he found that in some of their remittance scams, they they hide their assets that some of these these uh Orthodox Jewish families are getting $70,000 in benefits per kid >> and and then when you saw Tyler Alivea story, >> they're they're so they're super subsidized. That's how they can go to the yeshiva yesa all day and study. But then also they're they're damaging the public school system at sucking resources away hijacking the city council shutting down that school and
30:17buying that school in pennies on the dollar while subsidized by the American taxpayer. So to me do it segregate that's fine embrace your culture but do it on your own dime.
30:26>> I completely agree and what you saw happen to Tyler after doing that video.
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32:18You know, Tyler is a he's a shock gonzo journalist. He's always been that. He is like the South Park of YouTube creators.
32:27He attacks everyone starting with [ __ ] straight white males all the way down. There's no one who's safe.
32:32>> When he hits your city, he's looking to hit it with a nuclear bomb.
32:35>> Yeah. Yeah. And so, like, you know, people don't have to like that content.
32:39I think it's really entertaining. He's funny and does a great job with a lot of his [ __ ] So, he does all these videos where it's like insert type of group here in the title. Then he does one in Lakewood and inserts Jewish in the title. and he gets canceled off of Patreon. Then he has >> multi6 figure hit I'm assuming on that which is like he took a considerable pay cut six figure a month I believe and then he sets up his own site online free and a couple days later >> gets banned like from two different website platforms >> gets banned from the website platforms and it's like are you [ __ ] kidding me
33:16like that's absolutely crazy and I got a call >> from Jim Dioro who didn't know that I knew Tyler Olivera okay ex special agent of the FBI guy Jim Dioro and he was like [laughter] he goes yeah you uh bro I got to tell you there was this crazy documentary on YouTube it's all the stuff I told you about five six years ago that I investigated >> that's who I was just talking about >> literally yeah >> and and I'm like which one he goes this kid Tyler Olivera did one on the lake I'm like yeah that's my boy just on the show he's like bro he nailed it and yet he's getting cancelled for it getting cancelled for things that are truthful
33:54and it's like just cuz it's it's that group and like you raised a point about a few minutes ago about the pressure on on on Jews to not say anything who who disagree with this. I have tremendous tremendous empathy for that because what happens is every time and I've talked to people off record about this who are afraid to say anything. Every time they do, the group of like hardcore Zionists emanating from Israel itself and then having some minions here attacks them, calls them self-hating Jews.
34:27>> They're a very aggressive group, >> dude. It's awful. It's awful, man.
34:32>> Yeah. Um, and that that's the other thing is like when you're dealing with people that are sue happy, they like that and also they like they finesse the legal system. Like that's how Okay. it like each each culture specializ in their own level of criminality. So for instance, the Chinese right now are doing great in the marijuana business.
34:51Um they run it in Maine, they run it in Kansas City, they run it in New York. Um you [snorts] know, there's all type like each culture, but the the the Jewish level of crime and the other thing, okay, this is the other thing I want to break down in New York, we all know about the Italian mafia. We have had many many movies made about it.
35:08>> We don't ever talk about the Jewish mafia. There's not many Hollywood productions that have covered the Jewish mafia.
35:13>> Once upon a time in America, did >> there's there there's one, but there's many many dozens of Italian uh [snorts] movies about that. Um, but I I saw it firsthand when I was celebrating Purum with Jewish guys about three 2023.
35:27>> Super fun time. Amazing hospitality, amazing food. And Purum, by the way, for those that don't know, it's like this one day of the year where you're almost encouraged to get drunk. People are wearing costumes. It's like a Jewish Halloween frat party extravaganza family. You get catered, you have people playing music. It's wonderful. We had so much fun on that.
35:45>> Yeah, I shot it. Um, and it it didn't get a lot of hits, but it was extremely fun time. And I'm grateful for the hospitality I got there. It was awesome.
35:53Um, but we walk into this house in Crown Heights, beautiful mansion house, and they have this famous Hebrew singer.
36:00Keegan might have to say his name. Uh, older guy with a big white beard.
36:06And we need that. Who's that Hebrew singer? Keegan, >> what >> old guy with a beard?
36:12>> Who's the Hebrew singer that we saw?
36:15>> Uh, no. It was uh >> But they had a picture of him when you walk in.
36:21>> He was there.
36:22>> Oh, he was there.
36:23>> He was there. And so we were we were about to >> Aram Freed.
36:27>> A Freed. And so we were about to um film this party and they're like, "No, no, no. Camera's down. There's made men in this building."
36:34>> Made men. And I'm like, what? These are like guys look like rabbis in here. What do you mean made men? And the other thing is like, how are you a rabbi and a made man in a mafia? And uh >> that's interesting.
36:45>> And all this to say, my point about knowing about the Italian mafia, but not knowing about the Jewish mafia is one of the things I am trying to tackle without trying to unnecessarily hammer a group of people is like, why are we aware and talking about certain levels of crime and not other? And that's like the two-tiered system that it feels like is like uh because we're because we we came here to look into deed theft and it's a complicated issue. It's a multi-racial issue by the way. Um >> but a guy Solner Sanford Sley, he he got caught stealing 11 homes from people.
37:17And let's just say this is worth at least tens of millions of dollars. Um he's on house arrest right now.
37:23>> I know guys that did 10 years in California prison for stealing 80,000 from a bank. So why is it that this guy gets house arrest or the guy Jim Dioro was investigating? IO what happened to him?
37:36>> He he got almost no time.
37:38>> One of the guys got time, but he'll tell he'll tell you about all the guys that they didn't even he didn't even get to open the investigation. They had to close the investigation.
37:47>> And so one of the lawyers I was talking to yesterday was talking like look the power structure in New York. I mean that the the police commissioner or the police Yeah. Uh Jessica Tish, Jennifer Tish, her family is a real estate mogul family and and when you have all these the other thing is so this is not just a Jewish thing, but white collar crime >> is not prosecuted. You it's not punished the same way. Like you have a guy in Harlem steal $80 from you at gunpoint.
38:13He's going away for a while, but someone does deed theft where they steal your house from from underneath you that's worth$1 to4 million in a New York neighborhood. Um they might get house arrest. One crime's got a pen, another has a gun. That's why.
38:28>> I'm [snorts] not agreeing with it. I'm just saying.
38:30>> Yeah. So, anyways, um it's been going down a rabbit hole, but I made a lot of uh friends in the process, too. And um like there's this ginger rabbi that I met, uh Ethan Eaton. I have to say the Hebrew way.
38:42>> Yeah. He wants me to come back and he wants to be looking the hab tradition. I want to learn more about these guys because at the end of the day, what I am motivated by is curiosity, a desire to learn. And historically, I get invited back when I go places and I hope to continue that as much as I can.
38:56>> You're a very likable guy [snorts] and I think that once people actually people may have an idea because of what they have been told where you have a different opinion than them on something and then if you get face to face with them, I think they're always going to like you because you are genuinely curious and you should be able to ask some of these questions because it's about finding some common ground.
39:15>> I want common ground. I want common ground.
39:18>> Absolutely. But it's like, you know, the whole what's the Chappelle joke? He's like, he's like, "When it's the blacks, it's a gang. When it's the Italians, it's the mafia. When it's the Jews, it's just a giant coincidence and you should never talk about it." You know, like what's nuts is that didn't used to be a thing. Like when I was stud I was studying the mafia in high school like crazy. This is when no one was looking at the mafia. And I was obsessed cuz I got assigned a paper I think sophomore year in European history about where I had to write about the origins of the Sicilian Mafia. And then I started going
39:52down the rabbit hole and I learned everything about the mafia and the whole like Jewish mob, Meer Lansky, Bugsy Seagull, Murder Inc. all these like it was very the documentaries everywhere on operators.
40:04>> Yeah. And now it's like they don't talk about that as much whereas like Meer Lansky and Lucky Luciano built that city right there. was literally built by them. You know, you have the Italian mafia and the and the Jewish mob right there. And so there's something where it's like, oh, well, now, you know, >> well, I mean, can we speculate on why Hollywood wouldn't have shown movies about the Jewish Mafia?
40:28>> Speculate like pure spec right now.
40:30>> Just just like shot in the dark, you know?
40:33>> Shot in the dark, you know?
40:35>> Who knows? I can't really think of any reason.
40:36>> I can't I can't think of any reasons either, for sure. But it's it's you know it's an interesting I'll be very interested to see if you're able not like with necessarily Habad but with especially like the secular community and stuff if you're able to get some people to talk because I know I just know how scared a lot of people are to do that because they don't want to be cancelled by >> what I would argue is not their own kind by the way but what they'll call by faith their own kind.
41:06>> Yeah. I mean, some of them are non-political. Like one of my best friends in the world, the guy who whose house I visit the most and who I just called this morning when I was doing my little stretch and push-up routine. He's a secular Jew. And like that's the other thing that really makes me feel weird when like I didn't get actually I rarely got labeled an anti-semite in this last piece, which I was expecting to like get thrown to the roof for being an anti-semite. And it's like it's so confusing to be like, "Hey, there's a lot of guys I love that I spend more time with than anyone else I know." And
41:35then like just because you cover a controversial issue that means you hate somebody. Yeah. And it just it's a it's a that that label is losing its power too. I think it was kind of like in the George Floyd era where everyone got called a racist and it just like dude like you can't just throw that at anyone or sexist, you know, like and look what you got out of it.
41:54>> Look at the cult. Now you got Nick Fentes. That's what you get when you do that. When when you lie to people over and over again, >> then it flips hard the other way.
42:03>> The pendulum always swings. Mhm. Mhm.
42:06But it's like when you went to do that though, that first one in October where you went I think it was like called like investigating Apac >> or whatever. Yeah.
42:17>> Which was another brilliant documentary.
42:19That was your first time suareing into this issue.
42:23>> I was nervous, dude.
42:24>> Yeah.
42:24>> I remember being in the shower a couple days before that would get released, just like, should I do this? Should I not? I was really going back and forth.
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42:37>> What made you want to want to look at the situation?
42:39>> Because the thought I had in the shower is what is the point of having a big channel that has like I I can be a very small part of this hive mind that starts talking about something. What is the point of having a channel that has reach if I'm going to be scared to talk when the real issues come?
42:53>> Now, what happened? Cuz by the way, that was an excellent documentary. It was about 45 minutes long and it you went out of your way to cover both sides of the issue as much as possible >> with that IDF soldier being featured who by the way agreed to a part two of a different story because he thought I covered him fairly.
43:11>> Is that Don Kaider?
43:13>> Yeah. Yeah.
43:13>> The propaganda machine himself.
43:15>> The propaganda >> from my point of view. But he thinks I'm a propaganda machine. So I guess touch.
43:19>> But he still likes you. I don't know if he likes me because we had a very testy second interview that when I interviewed him about the West Bank, I was actually pretty pissed and I I instead of being like a calm, what do you mean by that?
43:31Which is what I did in the um this most recent piece. I just Hey, uh depopulate.
43:36What do you mean by depopulate? I I had a different kind of tone with Dorne. I was very um giving it back to him and being just kind of being a little boisterous.
43:46>> What was he arguing with the West Bank?
43:48Oh, that it's actually the Palestinians tacking the Israelis that oh this is uh Judea Sumera that this is their land.
43:56They they they kind of use a whole different lingo and they also use a whole different time frame. I think the big disconnect is Americans look at this issue from what's been happening since October 7th. A lot of the the the powerful Zionist folks are looking at what happened 2,000 years ago. Hey, this is our land that we had for many centuries, then we got expelled. And I'm reading BB's uh biography. I think it's like 600 or 700.
44:19>> I'm glad you're actually doing it.
44:20>> And so we're just it's like, hey, we're just coming back to the land that we actually had for many years. And I guess that to be fair, >> maybe what the Israel perspective is is if there were smartphones when the United States was moving in, exterminating the Indians and doing all that kind of atrocities, >> we would be we would be the same level of what Israel is doing now. So I think like Israel might be say when they say like you it's anti-Semitic to hold us to a double standard. Why can't we take our land back the same way that you took yours from the Indians?
44:49>> Yeah.
44:50>> Like a part of me says I get it, but I do think the smartphone is gonna help keep things in check that were atrocities before. It it's doing a better job of saying, well, hey, actually this is pretty terrible. Like we don't want this anymore, >> right? I think about this all the time.
45:05And it's not just us either. There's a lot of countries around the world and different points over the past couple thousand years obviously were formed because people came in and kicked the other people out. I think the difference is, and in their defense, this part is not their fault. The timeline is not their fault, but the difference is we're talking about a state that was created post World War II in 1948 when there was for now a form of global media and people could see things. They didn't, yes, they didn't have smartphones back then, but like you understood that there were people that were living there and
45:34now there's not or they're kicked out and there's a new country that wasn't there before. Whereas 400 years ago, it took [ __ ] 12 weeks to get a letter across the river or across the ocean just to find out.
45:46>> And there weren't graphic video images of, >> hey, we just slaughter this entire native village.
45:51>> That's right.
45:51>> Yeah.
45:52>> That's right. So, it's a different world in that way. But, you know, to your point, this this is a weapon in >> Yeah. And this is a weapon, too. of course in in in in different ways because you can forget a I'm not even talking about AI that's a whole separate conversation but you can take a narrative and make it real thin and not show the full context of the horizon and what's happening and that does happen in both directions but to your point it's like I have put a governor on if if that's the term you want to use on basically all content since October 7th in either direction is like half of it's AI or fake and the
46:35other half is true.
46:36>> You've been listening to Doran Kadar, huh?
46:38>> Oh, what?
46:39>> You've been listening to Dor on the >> No, no, not at all. What I'm saying is what I'm saying is Dorian Kadar will tell you 100% of it is not true. There's nothing to see here. It's actually the total opposite. The Palestinians are attacking people in the West Bank. It's total [ __ ] If you put a 50% governor on and say half of what I see is fake, >> that other 50% is horrific.
46:59>> You you don't you don't need it. You can unsee that 50%. It's real.
47:03>> And that's why America's that's why especially like everyone under 40 is so stirred up is because we've been bombarded by these images on a daily basis for the last two three years and it's uh it's become untenable and we don't want to be a part of it and um what do you think would happen if I let's just say shot in the dark? I mean, if the Nelk boys got him, I know I'm not going to give him the like the [ __ ] propaganda uh interview, but if I were to interview Benjamin Netanyahu, one, do you think he would ever accept? And two, do you think it would help or hurt me even if I asked him hard questions?
47:35>> Well, you would definitely go at him.
47:37>> Can you imagine what MSAD would do to my house, my phone?
47:40>> Yeah. Yeah.
47:41>> Before that interview and after.
47:43>> Yeah. It's I you know, >> kind of terrifying.
47:47I just don't I'm kind of at a point where there's I don't know. I think about this a lot and I go back and forth. I don't think there's an upside to interviewing a desperate.
48:03>> Do you think just from a a it's like when when psychologists go to a prison to interview a serial killer >> like because you can learn a lot from that psychological >> saying it publicly.
48:14>> I agree. You can learn a lot.
48:16>> The books are written about like when when a psychologist goes to a prison, profiles 20 serial killers and then composits like this is the childhood patterns, these are the adult patterns.
48:24There's something to learn from there.
48:26Is it better to just completely not talk to someone or let the mainstream media give them their like the Fox News interview?
48:33>> Yeah. No, it's it's I like I said, I go back and forth on this. Like you can't do what Neelk did. That was a disgrace because they they didn't have a [ __ ] clue. They they didn't know a single thing about anything. And just talk to them and like, "Oh, what's your favorite [ __ ] hamburger?" Like that just was beyond the pale. And they they they deserved the backlash they they got for that for sure. Cuz it's also like guys, this was being set up by the White House and then the whole like Israeli security teams coming in there and prepping questions ahead of time. Like there weren't alarm bells going off in your
49:06head like me maybe we maybe we should stay away from this. It's like you all with a guy like him, everything he does is so on his terms and controlled that it's very hard to win. I completely agree that being able to do a psychological profile and later study it, which it's great that you're reading his book told you that's like tells you who he is right there. But I think it's great for the record. It's just what can be used if you're recording something for public consumption on a territory that might not be yours either. Maybe you're going to him to his office or something like that and then little things go wrong or
49:45whatever. How could that then be used as a for a boomerang effect? You know what I mean?
49:50>> Also, I think he'd be a guy like I'd want to study like you'd have to dial in. I I'd want to be so immaculately prepared to talk to him because he's I mean he's a MIT, Harvard educated man like It's I'm my IQ compared to his is like I'm playing checkers cuz he's playing chess. He is You should never ever underestimate someone just cuz they're a bad person. For sure, which you seem to understand very well. He He is a brilliant man. Like there is nothing he does that is not supremely calculated and he has lasted this long despite all the mountains of things that have happened against him in his career
50:30because of that. for sure.
50:35>> I think when you interview someone at that level, I mean, I got um a little push back from interviewing Nick Fuentes, but I I actually think like I I don't know if I would there's no one I would not interview.
50:47>> I'm almost on the on the coin of um and I don't even think Nick like I'm not comparing Nick to Benjamin Netanyahu, by the way. I think like Nick has never killed anybody. Nick has never caused a violent uh you know, regime to take over a group of people. I'm not trying to put them on the same level at all. And I think he was a very fascinating guy to talk to. Um, but I would interview I feel like if I had the opportunity to interview Stalin or Hitler or Ma Tong as a person that likes to talk to people and wants to interview the best, I I think it's a a worthy challenge to look at. It could very well be. I I don't
51:21know. Like it's so hard for me to especially like when we're live talking on camera about it. It's so hard for me to like express how I look at it cuz I I do agree that that what what's the old phrase? Transparency is the best light or something something like that. But >> light's the best detergent or something.
51:40>> Yeah, light's the best det. It's something like that. But like I've just seen him run rough shot over people for so for decades when you go and look at it like he just find and and then even when he looks bad he still gets to do things on his terms and it's like would he just take advantage of the situation? He could. I mean, he's a he's a great speaker. Obviously, like he's used the whole growing up in America and having a [ __ ] Philadelphia accent to his advantage with, you know, American media and the American people throughout his career. But, you know, if somebody I I think you could do as good a job as
52:19anyone because you also feel strongly about it as long as you kept your wits, which I think you could. Well, I think it's fascinating about him is he has been >> well, we were talking about this off off camerara. His grandfather was a big uh Zionist movement guy. Like he would go on speeches around Europe and fill auditoriums, fill theaters and uh talk to people. His father was a great historian and writer and influence pedal pedaller for the Zionist movement. And um I think just in some ways it is a miracle what they have achieved and how they've uh turned their that situation something where they're actively
52:54expanding and actively growing. I guess what I would be curious is when when you're talking to someone that feels like all you hear is propaganda. If I said hey Mr. Netanyahu tell me about the Israel expansion project. what he oh that just because he said in his book that um when Yaser Arafat was saying that in the 90s that that was you know anti-semitic propaganda >> objection >> but uh it it does seem like that's the plan right now and so like I'm curious like would would he adjust and say that's real or would he deny it >> at any rate yeah he calls any any time you go to speak against the government in Israel he labels it as
53:30anti-semitism and that is ridiculous when I First of all, I shred my own government here all the time. That doesn't make me anti-American. I shred the Chinese government all the time. It doesn't make me xenophobic. I shred the Russian government and Ukraine governments all the time. It doesn't make me rousobic and [ __ ] Ukrainophobic. I shred the UK government sometimes. It doesn't make me [ __ ] lendophobic. But if I shred the Israeli government, Benjamin Netanyahu say, "No, no, no. You can't do that. That makes you anti-Semitic."
53:59>> That's their get out of jail freak.
54:00>> Yeah. [ __ ] you. Like, it's such it's such [ __ ] And and like I say, I'm really glad you're reading his autobiography because the thing about sociopaths is they genuinely believe their own [ __ ] And I couldn't believe like in retrospect that he actually wrote that book because he thinks it makes him look good. It does not.
54:28>> I think he came off as a like as like like it's an enjoyable read. He comes off as a compelling figure. Yes.
54:33>> Um, but actually I think there's an investigation that we might be having to do pretty soon.
54:39>> Um, and the audience that's listening, if you guys can think of the gayest US senators that aren't out as gay, um, we will be looking into that further perhaps at a later date. And I think that would be a fun one to pursue.
54:53>> Now, you say that because we were talking about this off air.
54:58There there are what's it section 224 and section 226 right now being proposed within legislation that involves a litany of things regarding the relationship between the United States military intelligence and >> Israeli military >> weapons manufacturing the opportunity for Israeli companies to set up shop here. um massive data sharing provisions and framework that allow us to keep giving more money to Israel without us being notified about it and >> no notification >> and guess who wrote the plan and is claiming responsibility for that?
55:34>> Benjamin Netanyahu. He claimed responsibility for this. He's like this is this is great. This is part of my plan. Um and we had interviewed so the chief Democrat pushing this is Congressman Adam Smith and he sits on the whatever the military committee is that would be oversight on the budget.
55:49And so we interviewed him about this this Pentagon failing the audit. It's failed the audit every single year that it's been around and we interviewed him about why. And I do want to get more into detail because I think it's a a worthy thing. But >> as we're about to push out this video next week, all of a sudden we we see this section 224 Israeli US military merger. So at 11:30 today, we're have to pause this podcast so I can interview Adam Smith and uh learn what we can from him. But it it's just this thing where how are we going more in bed with this country that is deeply unpopular and it's just like this the what I think the
56:24overall theme that's most frustrating that almost gives me a sense of despair sometimes it seems like our politicians local state and national keep doing these things that nobody wants. Do does the majority of people not want data centers? Correct. Do the majority of people not want surveillance cameras?
56:40Correct. That's the local level. then you may move up like do you want to keep raising taxes? Do we want to keep going to war? Everything that we don't want it seems like our politicians are doing.
56:48And I guess the thing that always gets to me is is happening so much in our face that I think despair is definitely creeping into the country. And that's when we were talking about at the beginning. Why do other cuh countries meet in the streets and march and protest and actually change things and why don't we? And there's many factors, but I think part of it is because the bombardment of it in the last few couple years has been so strong where uh uh the Bill Clinton Monica Lewinsky [ __ ] story was a a monthsl long scandal. Now, a massive scandal. Uh, Christine Gnome can funnel 143 million into a shell
57:24campaign for her advertising for her job. And, you know, that was created eight days ago. She does that. No one no one blinks an eye. It's out of the news cycle in two days. Uh, oh, insider trading's going on every time Donald Trump tweets that the war is over.
57:39Hundreds of millions of dollars. Like, there's so many things that we could say have happened that I think um it's almost conditioning us to just not respond anymore.
57:48>> Yeah. That's noise. They drown. They drown.
57:52>> They drown out the loudest voices by just creating crowd noise everywhere.
57:56And everything becomes a distraction for a distraction. Oh, they finally pushed the Epstein files out. Let's make sure we hold it until a Friday afternoon, the [ __ ] week before Christmas. Oh, [ __ ] They're talking about that. You know what? Somali fraud. Let's astroturf that to the [ __ ] moon. Now, let's invade Venezuela 6 days later. In and out, whatever. Oh, [ __ ] They dropped more Epstein files on January 30th. This one's really bad. They're [ __ ] naming everyone in that thing. They're even talking about like pizza and [ __ ] in that. All right, we got to get rid of that. Let's [ __ ] You know what? Get
58:29that scientist missing over there. Let's invade [ __ ] random.
58:32>> Do you believe it's that targeted and calculated or is it just >> How can you not at this point?
58:38>> How I was I was having a conversation with someone last night. I said, "How many times are you going to say something's a coincidence?"
58:43>> Mhm.
58:44>> How many times They've been doing this forever. knew >> like it happens 109 times. Like is it a coincidence?
58:49>> Chuck Schumer >> since he has been in office. Mil media genius.
58:54>> Okay. He's been in office since the early 80s. Do you know that he has a press conference every Sunday morning in New York?
59:00>> Mm- >> every Sunday morning the [ __ ] guy has a press conference anywhere. Cameras are rolling. Everybody wins. And he could be talk he could be talking about, you know, the [ __ ] size of the trees outside. He does this because he knows that he'll be at the top of the Monday morning news cycle when the week starts.
59:17That is how these guys in these places operate. It is news cycle, news cycle, news cycle. And now the news cycle, there's [ __ ] four different major social media platforms that people use at all times, five or six, whatever it is. There's mainstream media that has just this generation. Then there's just this generation who's over here. Then there's this story here and that story there and this tweet there and that thing here.
59:40and the algorithm pushes voraciously over and over again content content content that they can just drown it out.
59:46How many people besides me do you hear talking about the Epstein files these days?
59:50>> Every Well, it was everybody >> and now >> we're still aware but other things have taken the front seat.
59:56>> Do you know how crazy that is?
59:57>> Yeah.
59:58>> It's the most prolific [ __ ] crime of my lifetime.
60:02>> There's more news about drop about it.
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