0:01But yeah, do you want to do this, Steve?
0:04I I saw this one. It's like th this is the stuff though that that pisses me off. The double standards, right? For four years, many of us correctly were looking at the at the corruption of of the Biden administration and particularly within his family and his son Hunter and going, "What the fuck?"
0:27like why why is why is he getting [ __ ] business deals in Ukraine and [ __ ] What's going on here? He's also, you know, a drug addict, which is not helpful to that kind of situation. And people were upset about this and they had every right to. What I'm really confused about though is why not as many people are talking about what's going on with the Trump kids and things that even if it's not full-blown corruption, it [ __ ] looks like it and should be talked about and investigated. This is just the latest one. Like, we're not even getting to the Kushers yet. I think Def and I are going to do that for for
1:02Pure Spec next week because there's a lot of other [ __ ] there that doesn't even just have to do with the corruption. It's kind of a separate thing. But like, you know, obviously that's Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump who's his wife. But there was a company this week that at that the Pentagon gave a six go back to the first one, be >> that the Pentagon gave a $620 million contract to and the company's valuation rose from 200 million to two billion as a result.
1:34And this was after Donald Trump Jr. took a stake in the company. Can we click the article right there? Just cuz I want to give the details and I'll let you guys decide for yourself. All I'm saying is like maybe he didn't know, but like again optically, how many times are we going to say optically where at some point it's like you know what the optics are because you're [ __ ] doing them.
1:54So this is from Po Prouba. The White House intervened to get a $620 million deal for a company tied to Donald Trump Jr. You can go down there. That's perfect. Thanks. When the Pentagon announced a $620 million loan last year to a small North Carolina startup linked to Donald Trump Jr., defense officials in the company tried to tamp down suspicions of cronyism. The president's eldest son said through a spokesperson that he wasn't involved. Wouldn't me.
2:18The Pentagon said Trump Jr. played no role in the record setting deal, and the startup's founder told reporters that his company, Vulcan Elements, received no political favoritism. The interviews and defense department records reviewed by ProPublica showed that the request alone hundreds of millions of dollars to the firm linked to Trump Jr. was made by Peter Navaro, a White House adviser to President Donald Trump and a friend of of Trump Junior's who's also very much like in the family's debt and everything. I don't mean that in a bad way. Like, you know, very tight with them and everything. So, certainly a
2:46close relationship. They are right about that. Of the dozens of companies the Pentagon was considering funding at the time, Vulcans was the only deal initiated by a top aid to the president, said an official at the Pentagon who was not authorized to speak publicly. After defense officials got the White House request, they asked Pentagon staff to move in at an unusually rapid pace, said another person who was involved in the deal at the Pentagon, but not authorized to speak about it. The staff worked late nights and with little sleep to get the loan through in a matter of weeks. The source said the call came from the White
3:13House. Quote, "We have to get this done." The person said, "All right, nice. Devil's advocate could be these are disgruntled people in the Pentagon who want to cause an issue or whatever because they don't like the administration. They're particularly upset about Pete Hegath and what's going on there. And I fully understand that.
3:29But yeah, how many times are we going to see this and and be able to say that every time? Like, yeah, it's probably just disgruntled people probably just going after him. And like the media, who's always in many cases been even unfair to Donald Trump, like they'll attack him on [ __ ] he does that is wrong and then just invent a bunch of other [ __ ] which makes people love him and I understand that.
3:50Like the media is pretty quiet on this [ __ ] That's kind of interesting to me.
3:55Like what does it ever feel to you like they're they just >> Yeah. You know what I mean?
4:03>> I think that's the point. Yeah. It's very very strange and this is this is one example. There's been a bunch of examples of this.
4:11>> We got another one today >> with deal and what does this one say?
4:14The Trump administration has awarded a 9.7 billion dollar contract to Dell.
4:21This comes after Trump purchased up to 5 million in Dell stock and repeatedly promoted Dell during public events. He was doing that with Palunteer >> a couple weeks ago. And some of these it's like, well, he's worth billions and it's not a ton of money, but he's doing it again and again and again. And that [ __ ] adds up.
4:38>> Absolutely.
4:39>> So, like, this would be a lot of money for a congressman or a senator. Of course, >> $5 million in stock. Like, >> I mean, it's [ __ ] money.
4:46>> It's $5 million in stock. No matter what it is. It's very, very odd to me that like the same things people call out Nancy Pelosi for, they won't look at these, which you have to look at this.
4:58It's crazy. I'll always just as I did with like Biden and that stuff, I'll always play devil's advocate with this stuff and be like, "Oh, it could be this. It could be that or whatever." But like, you have to look at it. You got to report on it and you have to add it up and eventually, like I always say, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, [ __ ] like a duck. At some point, it's a duck, you know? And it's it's just it's just wild to me that this continues to go on.
5:21But you know, the good news is Joey Def, the 250th anniversary of America is happening and we're going to get a $250 bill out of it.
5:30>> That's great.
5:30>> It's awesome.
5:31>> That's great.
5:31>> Can we get a look at that bill?
5:32>> We should We should print a lot of them, too, when we do it.
5:36>> Just go burr on the >> money pound after that [ __ ] Come on.
5:43So apparently for to commemorate the 250th anniversary of this country, Donald Trump is pushing for a special bill of him. Is that his mug shot?
5:53>> I think that's that's the mug.
5:55>> His [ __ ] mug shot.
5:58>> Yeah.
5:59Oh man.
6:02The greatest society we've ever seen.
6:06>> Wait, is that real? That's the actual mockup.
6:09>> This is the mockup.
6:10>> No [ __ ] way. Yeah.
6:13>> Is that really his mug shot?
6:15>> Yeah.
6:16>> Can we pull up his mug shot real quick?
6:19>> Yeah, sure.
6:20>> Bro, what is happening?
6:23>> The simulacum.
6:25>> What the [ __ ] is >> Yeah.
6:26>> All right, go back.
6:27>> That's it.
6:28>> It's danger. I don't know if it's the same one, but it's dangerously close, >> dude. What do you That's That's got to be The hair is different.
6:36Like, Nacho, what do you think? Is that the same one?
6:42>> It's the same photo.
6:43>> You think it's the same photo? Well, he's a photographer.
6:45>> It's the same photo. You can tell. Look at the the eyes and the eyebrows.
6:50>> It's very close.
6:51>> It might just be because it got like um like rendered it or editing on the eye, >> right?
6:57>> Vector.
6:57>> If we turn out to be wrong about that, listen, bro, they got it dangerously close. So, >> I think I think you know what the art direction was going for, >> you know. Yeah. But apparently there's like some wasn't there some law passed that you can't do this and now they're like trying to overturn it. So >> Trump administration officials have pressed the office responsible for printing the nation's money to design a $250 bill featuring the president's portrait acc Oh, let's pull up the president's portrait real fast. Official portrait of Donald Trump >> 2025.
7:27>> The official >> Yeah. I because I feel like the eyebrows and the hair are a little different, but it's it's very similar.
7:36Oh >> yeah, that's it. Okay, so it's not the mug shot, but it's it's the He's doing the same look. That's why it >> Well, he's got his pose. He's got his >> I guess he's got his pose.
7:45>> Yeah, you know, >> he should have put the mug shot one on there.
7:49>> But anyway, go back go back to the article.
7:52>> Imagine getting tasked with that. Like you're just sitting at your desk like, "Listen, new one in from the big man.
7:57We're going for the 250th $250 bill.
8:01What do you think?"
8:01>> Mug shot. and you're just like, "That's that's what I'm doing for work today."
8:05Yeah, we want you to design it. All right.
8:09Starting last year, two political appointees at the Treasury Department, US Treasurer Brandon Beach, and his senior adviser Mike Brown repeatedly urged staff at the agency's Bureau of Engraving and Printing. Isn't this the [ __ ] we were getting rid of in Doge?
8:22Like, isn't this what Elon was getting rid of? That sounds like the Bureau of Engraving and Printing. What the [ __ ] happens there?
8:31>> To prepare prototypes of the note, according to the employees who said the move raised concerns because federal law currently allows only deceased people to appear on bills. Donald Trump's not deceased. The employees spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution. As part of the effort, Beach in August and September provided bureau staff with mock-up designs for the note, including one that shows President Donald Trump's face in the middle of a $250 bill between the signatures of the president and Treasury Secretary Scott Bent. According to one of the employees and records re reviewed
9:03by the Washington Post, the artist who said he designed the mockup told the post, here he is, Steve, that he had spoken with Trump about it. British painter. We We couldn't even get an American. What a piece of [ __ ] this like I I can you got to just just read this because this guy's such a piece of [ __ ] acting like he [ __ ] painted the Mona Lisa. Please please for the audience.
9:24What a [ __ ] douchebag. And of course he's English. Of course >> DeF doesn't like the English.
9:30>> No, I don't like >> I love all our English.
9:32>> I love the I love the English. I don't like royalists.
9:36>> Okay, important distinction there. I just love ribbon >> saying sorry folks.
9:40>> Yeah. Anyway, so British painter Ian Alexander said Trump endorsed changes to his original design, such as adding the colors of the American flag and a logo commemorating the 250th anniversary of the nation's founding. He likes to call me his favorite British artist, said Alexander, a former competitive swimmer and teacher.
9:59>> Of course, yeah, >> who describes him as a royal portrait artist of Queen of Queen Elizabeth II and others. No living person has appeared on US currency since 1866 when it was outlawed after the image of a mid-level Treasury bureaucrat showed up on a 5-cent note. Legislation that would allow Trump to appear on a $250 bill was introduced in Congress last year to commemorate the nation's 250th anniversary by his language. All right, just hear me out.
10:26>> Come on.
10:27>> Hear me out.
10:29>> Hear me out.
10:30>> We got George Washington on the $1 bill.
10:32>> Uhhuh.
10:34>> We got Well, the $2 bill is gone. Andrew Jackson, >> but the $5 bill is a blinking.
10:39>> Different era, but makes a ton of sense.
10:42Got Andrew Jackson on the 20. Different era. Okay, >> we got Ben Franklin on the hundo. Who do we have on the thousand?
10:51Is that Ulissi? No, Ulysus is the 50.
10:53Ulysus has grand.
10:54>> There's a There's a thousand bill.
10:56>> Is there Isn't there a $1,000 bill? Can we Google that? I've never held one.
10:59>> What do you mean?
11:00>> I feel like I've seen a thousand bill before.
11:03>> I might have just made that up. I don't know. I think you I think that's fake news. I think you're the fake news media. I might be fake.
11:09>> Oh, the US does have >> SON OF A [ __ ] I KNEW I WAS RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WHO'S ON IT?
11:13>> They stopped printing them.
11:15>> All right. But they didn't >> Grover Cleveland.
11:16>> It was Grover Cleveland. I knew that was in there [ __ ] >> So there was a $1,000 bill. Grover Cleveland. Essentially, I'm putting that all across because we got Washington and Franklin off the board >> for the 250th.
11:30>> I mean, they did Tom Jefferson dirty with the $2 bill. I feel like bringing him back for the 250.
11:38Maybe that's the move. No, not everything about Thomas Jefferson was great, but he wrote the Declaration of Independence, 250th of America.
11:44>> 250. Yeah.
11:46>> You know.
11:47>> Yeah. I just want to say that I don't hate the English.
11:51It's just that I don't I don't [ __ ] with the royalist [ __ ] All right. I still love everybody.
11:57When we find a way to get Piers Morgan in here, at some point I'm just gonna leave the room for 15 minutes in that podcast and just let DeF let you go back and forth with Piers about the royal family.
12:08>> I'm just going to be like, "Dude, Scotland's independence coming up. Let's go." And he's going to be like, >> "There is no such thing."
12:13>> Oh, we're going to do it.
12:14>> Yeah. You're going to have fun.
12:16>> We're going to do it.
12:16>> You're going to have a lot of fun.
12:19>> Yeah. Come on.
12:20>> Yeah. We actually love our English.
12:23>> No, I I just like to I like to take the piss. They'll get what I'm saying there.
12:28>> You know all the [ __ ] lingo, too.
12:30You're like an insider.
12:31>> No, I do. I love the English. It's just, you know, when you hear someone [ __ ] talking about the king and the queen, it's like literally just shut up. Just shut up. It's 2026.
12:42Get a [ __ ] grip. Well, I guess we'll have to see if the 250th anniversary is commemorated with the Donald Trump bill, but there's at least going to be a UFC fight.
12:51>> Great. Yeah.
12:54>> It's like when You know what's funny is there's people who like get really excited about all this, you know, like I'm just I'm just at a point where I'm like sick, you know? Did you hear about Did you hear about this explosion over there? H All right, we got to do it. We got to look at our boy's platform.
13:14>> We got to look at his platform, man.
13:16>> Let's do it. Let's do it.
13:17>> Listen, we've been talking about Palm Beach socialites. We got to look at the potential ruler of the [ __ ] Game of Thrones down there.
13:23>> Oh, dude, I can't believe this. Pete running for mayor and this is his platform. Free botox for all Palm Beach residents. All of them.
13:35>> Free convertible use for one year. I don't even know.
13:38>> What does that mean?
13:39>> Yeah, I don't know what that means. I'm really glad I >> There's one convertible that gets shared amongst the rest of us.
13:44>> I can tell you it's a Corvette's not going to cut it, Pete. Not in Palm Beach. Pickle ball and paddle court expansion.
13:53Free tennis lessons for all. And this is the best one. Import NYC water for better pizzas and bagels. He has a point.
14:03>> He does have a point.
14:04>> He does have a point there.
14:05>> Yeah, >> there's something in the NYC water. New York City water.
14:10>> That does >> make the bread have an extra ump to it for sure.
14:22That should be the next presidential ticket.
14:26>> Is that on the screen right now?
14:28>> Yeah. Yeah.
14:29>> I see a presidential ticket item with these two.
14:34>> Um >> Yeah, that's >> Oh, man.
14:38You know, I g I gave some PR advice to Palm Beach. Not that he watched it a couple weeks ago.
14:43>> He might have seen it. Honestly, it did well.
14:46>> I don't know. Well, he's not listening.
14:48He didn't take it to heart. Go away. All right, dude. Just at this point, go away.
14:56It's not like it's we're laughing at you. We are not laughing with you. You know what I mean? And I don't know. Once you get past the laughs, the excitement of looking dangerously close to like the world's most prolific pedophile.
15:16I don't I don't love the excitement.
15:18That's not That's not I I would be going to a face transplant surgeon if I were him. If I had Palm Beach Pete money and this [ __ ] got out, first of all, I never would have [ __ ] introduced myself to people after that video of me in the sunglasses in my car happened. I would have gone straight to wherever I Where do facial [ __ ] transplant surgeons have offices?
15:41>> I don't know. Like >> saying like strip mall.
15:43>> Yeah. Or like you go to Asia to do something like that. I would have gone the [ __ ] to Asia or wherever and said, "Doc, you see this pick of Jeff? You see me? Make it different. Make it make it whatever you want. Make me an Asian.
15:57Don't care. Just different."
16:03>> Yeah. I had something to say, but I don't even remember anymore cuz I just can't. This guy is just He's something, man.
16:10>> He's something. That's one way to put it. He's definitely something.
16:15We we got the link for my boy though, right?
16:18>> Yeah, >> we we got the link for my boy.
16:22So, I referenced this earlier, but I guess Pam Bondi, can we just Google so I get the terminology right?
16:30Pam Bondi under oath closed door testimony. I want to make sure that's exactly what it was.
16:35>> Yeah. So, we have it right. So Pam Bondi, the now ex attorney general of the United States, who we've righteously ripped many times on this show, she gave some sort of testimony behind the scenes. Can we just check that, De so that I I know for sure before we look at this video, just so I have the terms right of what it was, but she gave testimony to a panel in Congress behind closed doors regarding her role in the Epstein investigation. Yes, it was She testified in the congressional Epstein probe. So that's exactly what it was. And we're going to play this video right here of one of the congressmen
17:16coming out and sharing some of the things she said. But I think pure spec >> I think we as in this whole community of you guys listening and us in here were definitely over the target with another guy that she that's going to be talked about right now. Let's run it.
17:37It is clear in just this this this part of the of the interview that she continues to push all of the investigation and the blame on acting AG Todd Blanch.
17:53She said, and I quote, "Acting Ag Blanch was managing the entire investigation."
17:58End quote. And what we're going to hear in that interview and what she's saying here in her words and remarks is that it was Todd Blanch, the current acting AG that was leading the Epstein investigation. And quite frankly, all of the mistakes that we saw, the redactions, not protecting survivors, >> she continues to push that back onto the acting AG, Todd Blanch, who by the way was Donald Trump's former personal lawyer.
18:29So, >> we were shredding Todd Blanch across a couple episodes there over the last month or two because the arrogance and pure, what's the word I'm looking for?
18:45Disdain with which he looks at and speaks to people with respect to the Epstein investigation as if you are burdening him with even asking him about such a ridiculous thing. It is it's gross and it it's an affronttery to my intelligence and it it and all of our intelligence like it makes him a very hatable guy and he is now the acting attorney general. He is a yes man. And again the attorney general, not that it has been this way in decades now, but the attorney general is supposed to be independent acting alone, upholding the laws, the nation's top cop, not reporting to anyone or doing the business of anyone up to and
19:24including the president of the United States. But that's not how it works anymore. It hasn't worked that way for a long time, sadly. And Todd Blanch is no different. And you know, to play devil's advocate here, Pam Bondi may be on the sinking Titanic and, you know, deciding that she's Billy Zayn instead of Leonard DiCaprio, and she's like, I'm getting the [ __ ] off this boat.
19:45>> Respect >> that. You know what? That's my kid right there. It's not my kid, but it's my kid.
19:49Let's go.
19:50>> Could be. But again, she would be under oath in this situation, right, De?
19:54>> Yeah. So, she's making a statement on the record that is a felony as far as I know. Please correct me in the comments, legal eagles out there.
20:04>> If she is lying, it's a felony and is now I don't know saying some sort of quiet part out loud that the guy behind her who is that correct? He was Donald Trump's personal attorney. That's >> I didn't even remember that. That's what the man claim.
20:19>> That's wild. So Donald Trump's former personal attorney was really the cleanup guy. Again, this is the guy, I believe, who went and met with Gilen Maxwell at that initial meeting at the prison last year between the Trump administration and Gilen. So, he's a cleanup crew. What's he cleaning up? That's what I want to know. Besides obviously like the whole Epstein thing, we know that. But like, what is he specifically trying to clean up? What are you hiding, Todd Blanch? Why are you going on [ __ ] Katie Miller's podcast?
20:52>> Yeah.
20:53>> And denying to the world that any of this stuff is real? And he like, you see how he referred to him in there again as like he would give him the legal term like Mr. Epstein.
21:03>> Yeah.
21:03>> Ah, just a [ __ ] >> like when your gut vermin >> Yeah. When your gut goes off like this is a bad person. Like you you know what I think of pretty much everyone in DC so let me be fair there. But like my gut with him is just like this is a really bad guy. Like and and like a really weak guy too. Someone who he strikes me as someone who who would sit in the front row in class to show off to the teacher every day and still get questions wrong but then try to hobnob the teacher after class.
21:43You know what I mean? Like >> he reminds me of the guy the kid that would paint his nails and put on a dress when his mom wasn't home. Just like probably a bunch of these guys.
21:56>> Just pure spec. I don't know.
21:58>> Pure spec.
22:01>> I don't know. Maybe that's how they got him.
22:03>> They probably did.
22:04>> Maybe that's how they got him.
22:05>> You've been doing this for a long time and we know >> cuz >> All right, Jay Ed Jay Edgar.
22:12>> You're done. You're done, kid. Listen, we're starting the Gustapo. You're in charge.
22:16>> Get your panty hose on because we got a lot to do.
22:25>> Interesting time, Steve.
22:26>> Yeah.
22:27>> And he's still acting, right? He's not the >> what?
22:30>> He's not He's still not the official.
22:31He's acting.
22:32>> Um >> what's the like He's been acting now for [ __ ] two months.
22:36>> He's an actor. We're actors. Um let's see. Have they officially Have they officially appointed him and they're just waiting to clear it through hearings, confirmation hearings?
22:48>> Um, he's the acting >> and he hasn't been appointed. How long has he been acting?
22:54>> Oh, he he is officially appointed, but he has not been formally nominated or confirmed by the Senate.
23:00>> Formally nominated or confirmed by Senate, meaning he's been appointed by Trump officially.
23:07>> Yeah.
23:07>> Okay.
23:08>> Yeah.
23:08>> So, he's trying to make him the long-term AG here.
23:12feel like there's a lot of red flags flying, but that's just me. But, you know, I credit where it's due. The White House did commemorate something extremely important this week. Something near and dear >> to all of our hearts. I know it really touched you.
23:27>> It did.
23:27>> I saw this on your Twitter, De. I know this this pulled on a heartstring, but >> it it was the 10-year anniversary of Harambe.
23:36>> Yeah. our brave fallen gorilla friend, >> you know, who I agree with you, DeF. I think he was protecting that boy.
23:45>> Yeah, he definitely was.
23:46>> He definitely was. And they shot him for it.
23:48>> Oh, dude.
23:49>> But if you remember, if if I know it's a long time ago now, but Harambe was the Cincinnati Zoo gorilla who when a three-year-old boy fell into the gorilla tank, >> which Where's your parents?
24:03>> Yeah. Where's your parents on that one?
24:04Okay. He was holding on to the boy and was eventually shot by one of the zookeepers there and killed because they didn't which >> who someone docks that guy by the way.
24:16>> Yeah, I'm kidding.
24:18>> In all seriousness, that was a shitty part about the situation. I agree with you, De. It's like where were the parents? Why was your kid falling in the [ __ ] >> Yeah. Why did a three-year-old fall? You know, cuz you put that it's you put that guy in an impossible position and now the gorilla gets it and and when you look at the tape, it's like the gorilla was probably just protecting him, >> you know, in the moment. Who am I to say what I would think he was doing? I don't know. But >> the White House did commemorate that.
24:44And Dave, you correctly pointed out they gave 911 like a paragraph. He got [ __ ] he got multiple rest easy to a true patriot.
24:53>> Wait, they put that at the end? Rest easy to a true patriot. on but never forgotten. Rest easy to a true patriot.
25:01I mean it's like are you like what the [ __ ] is going on? Truman show.
25:05>> It is true. It is true. I love the meme of the [ __ ] of what's his name? The actor who played the director in Truman Show.
25:13>> Oh, Ed Harris.
25:14>> Ed Harris and they'll change his face. He'll be like be like Netanyahu chew the bombs.
25:23Uh, at least we got our priorities in order. Where are we just for one second here? We're recording this Friday night.
25:29It's coming out Saturday. This is changing by the minute. So, I only want to do like a minute or two on this.
25:33Where are we on this [ __ ] Iran negotiation right now? So, >> Vance is saying a deal could be close.
25:41This is from this is from four hours ago and it this is just one headline but it said that a draft of the US Iran deal is reportedly referencing a possible $300 billion investment fund for Iran. Oh, Benjamin Netanyahu's [ __ ] >> thought this was interesting with it.
25:59And again, this is just like someone's reply from chat GBT.
26:04But >> approximately how much money would it cost to fix damages done to Iran via the recent Israel US Iran war dollar amount only 270 billion >> reparations?
26:15I don't.
26:16>> Could be.
26:17>> Could be.
26:18>> Could be.
26:19Again, it was just unnecessary, as we've covered a billion times over in here, to start this in the first place. And >> yeah, >> you know, if anything, they've just legitimized the regime there, which is, you know, that's not good for anybody, particularly the people that live there, by the way. And they've allowed them to [ __ ] >> It just I I just looked up and saw that and I'm like, "Wait, it's happening again."
26:51>> No. All right. That's not on the screen, is it?
26:53>> No, it's not. We're just >> We're going to leave that. Yeah.
26:58>> Come on.
27:00>> Oh my god.
27:05I got Yeah, we we'll we'll maybe talk about that one on Monday. I gotta look at that one. That is [ __ ] insane. But again, when you when you when you give them the opportunity to now have such economic control over the straight of Hormuz and affect out way outside of their borders and and their own GDP just affects so many downstream economic things around the world.
27:32>> Just goes to show you what what did Sean Hazlet say? He said he put it perfectly in episode 428. who's like the greatest the greatest risk uh the greatest unnecessary foreign policy disaster in modern history or something like that. He said it way better than me. But I agree with him. It's like a totally unforced error. You know, I I I hope to actually seeing it come to a close. Like it does, knock on wood, it's felt like over the past week or two, you know, things are a little calmer there and there's a little more seriousness to these discussions, but I do not want to jinx it because I will [ __ ] believe
28:15it.
28:15>> Yeah.
28:16>> When I see it and it, you know, there's also they're saying Iran's open to destroying any uranium they have and [ __ ] like that so Iran can't get a nuke.
28:24Who knows if that's true. Yeah, it feel it's the same things that they ripped the Obama administration for. Even correctly so, by the way, I I was not a fan of that deal, that 2015 deal, saying you can't get guarantees of anything.
28:38It's It's looking like how are you going to get guarantees here when you've just strengthened the position of crazy people.
28:45>> Yeah, >> I don't get it. But you know who won't be here for the nuclear winner, Joey Def?
28:51>> Who?
28:53>> You know who?
28:54>> Our old pal. The old salamander himself.
28:57>> Yeah, the reptile.
28:59>> What was your nickname you gave him?
29:01>> The reptile.
29:02>> No, the other one.
29:03>> Oh, yeah. So, I I don't know. I have not googled this yet, but I was like, how have people not thought of this?
29:09Probably they have, and my dumbass just hasn't seen it. But for Peter Teal, who is the founder of Palunteer, I was like, Palent Teal. I was really proud of that when I came up with that.
29:22But Palant Teal, Peter Teal has left America. He has packed up with his family and moved to Argentina.
29:33Nice. And there's a lot going on in the details here. So, we're Devil's in the details. Pun intended.
29:41>> We're going to dig through. But billionaires from the New York Post, AAN, baby.
29:48>> That's good.
29:48>> That is pretty good. Good.
29:49>> Whoever wrote that, good copy. Ariel Zibler.
29:51>> Ariel Zilber.
29:53>> Ariel. Ariel Zilber.
29:55>> Good one.
29:56>> Good one. Billionaire investor Peter Teal reportedly moved his family from the US to Argentina's capital, Buenosaris, as a refuge for high from high taxes, political turmoil, and potential catastrophes like nuclear war and an AI meltdown. Let me back this up for a second.
30:16an AI meltdown that he's helping bring in nuclear war that through his many political maneuverings and technocratic maneuverings, he's also helped create a threat for that's neither here nor there, though. The PayPal co-founder and longtime Silicon Valley power player has met privately with Argentine President Javier Malay, purchased a mansion in one of Buenos Ire's most exclusive neighborhoods and tempor and temporarily relocated his family to the South American nation. According to the New York Times, sources told the paper that Teal made the move due to concerns about the political direction of the US,
30:53especially in California, where over half of voters support a proposed wealth tax on billionaires. Can't have that, Peter. The investor became more interested in Argentina as the proposal gained traction and was considering cutting ties with California by the end of the year. The Times reported his private investment firm, Teal Capital, opened an office in Miami's Windwood neighborhood where, by the way, Joey De, he's had he's had like a big compound there now for several years. So, I guess he never made it his official residence, >> I guess. Yeah, >> I guess not. I guess that wasn't an option, but he had to go to That's the
31:28thing. It's like why is he going to Argentina when he's got Miami set up.
31:32Taxfree state Florida income.
31:34>> Yeah. Well, you know, it's usually where they send the Nazis, so adds up.
31:40>> They're great at hiding people.
31:41>> Yeah. So, I was just like, ah, they're just sending another one over there.
31:44Just kidding. Pure spec jokes.
31:46>> Pure spec. But >> don't sue me.
31:48>> Did I ever tell you the story about Side note here? Let's take a little side note from this article.
31:52>> Yeah. Yeah, let's do it.
31:54story about the guy who was called in to find the Nazi to in Argentina.
32:03>> Well, no. So, this one guy I knew was called by a major company, major league company that had just purchased another pretty big company. And as a part of the purchase, one of the key executive, like the key guy there, I don't know if it was the CEO, I can't remember that, but like the the key guy, that's how it was described to me. They were very suspicious of him.
32:31The purchasing company was very suspicious of the guy.
32:34>> And so the dude who ran the purchasing company knows the guy I know, and the guy I know is like a fixer kind of dude.
32:42Like he'd make a [ __ ] great podcast, but he would >> never do it.
32:46>> He would never do it. No. the be amazing podcast though. And so his friend who basically runs this big company, the parent company, calls him and says, "Hey, listen.
32:57We just bought this other company.
32:58Here's what the deal is. Here's the guy's coming in. Here's the main guy right here and what he would be doing.
33:04Obviously, it's going to be very important to the new venture, yada yada yada. But something's off.
33:09>> Something's just off about him." And so my guy goes, "What do you mean?" And they're like, "Well, we don't we don't really know. It's just like a gut feeling that it's off. He's like, "Yeah, but define off. Why what about him do you think is off?"
33:25>> And they said, "Well, we think he's a Nazi."
33:30He's like, "What?"
33:32>> You know, he wasn't even talking. This wasn't even like a Jewish guy he was talking to. This was like a [ __ ] Anglo-Saxon Catholic.
33:38>> He's like, "You think he's think he's a Nazi?" And they're like, "Yeah, we can't really explain it, but we think he's a Nazi. He's from South America originally. He speaks with a slight accent. He's got a German last name and he rubs us the wrong way." And we think he's a Nazi. So my guy's on the phone with him and he's [ __ ] laughing his ass off. And he's like, "Guys, relax." Like he asked him, he went through the whole thing, asked him a bunch of other questions about everything they knew about him, all this and that. He's looking at nothing's checking out. He's like, "Guys, he's not, Listen, I'm a capitalist. If
34:14you want if you insist on paying me, I'll take your money and [ __ ] investigate this, but like he's relax.
34:20He's not a Nazi. You're fine." And they're like, "No, no, we we really feel like he's a Nazi."
34:27And he's like, "I'll take your money. I think it's stupid, but I'll take your money." And they're like, "Please, would you?" He's like, "All right, fine."
34:34Takes it. Dude was a Nazi. card carrying [ __ ] underground flag saluting [ __ ] through the rat lines families down to it Nancy.
34:43>> Yep.
34:45>> That's crazy.
34:47>> Adds up for old Pete.
34:48>> Yeah, maybe.
34:49>> Maybe. Maybe >> a lot of things in in different directions going on.
34:53>> Yeah, I'm being facitious. You know, >> it's a pure spec show. We have fun here.
34:57You know, just >> it's satire. It's political satire >> when we're talking about someone like him and then just regular satire for everything else. But anyway, back to this article right here. The investor became more interested in Argentina as he propo as the proposal gained traction in California about the wealth tax and was considering cutting ties with California by the end of the year. His investment firm Teal Capitals, I said, is in Miami, yada yada yada. Okay, go down. Go down. Not least of Teal's concerns is the possibility of nuclear warfare in the northern hemisphere.
35:29Specifically, the northern hemisphere.
35:31>> Great.
35:32>> That's right.
35:32>> That's awesome.
35:33>> Great. Look at this. We're definitely not a target. Making a relatively far-flung corner of South America an appealing option, the Times reported other members of the global elite like teal buddy Martin Varsavski are of the same mind. According to the article, quote, the moment China takes Taiwan or Russia takes Lithuania, yo, Lithuania is on the table. What the [ __ ] I'm in Buenosirs. Barzovski, a Spanish Argentine tech entrepreneur, was quoted as saying, "It's good to have a plan B for civilization."
36:06>> Wish I could have a plan B. Yeah, >> that's a interesting term.
36:12>> All right, let's Teal has reportedly enrolled his kids in a Buenos air school and brought and bought a plot of land in nearby Uruguay, too.
36:25>> Nice.
36:25>> There's other places. I got a tweet coming for you in a minute. See, it's not just Uruguay. My man, my man's a real estate tycoon.
36:33He's just down there [ __ ] plucking plucking some lots. Teal, a supporter of President Trump's has also forged close ties with Milelay, the libertarian whose crusade against taxes, regulation, and government spending closely aligns with Teal's own worldview. According to the Times, they first met in 2024, and Teal has since held private meetings with the leader. The paper reported, "Argentina's government is considering offering teal citizenship or permanent residency." A person familiar with his plans told the Times through a Mile spokesperson, though a Mile spokesperson denied that the move is in keeping with a life of
37:06global globe trotting for Teal. He was born in Germany, raised in the US, and obtained New Zealand citizenship in 2011. Remember, he's a big fan of Lord of the Rings. That could be why. It might just be for you know how these billions are. these billionaires are they just have [ __ ] you money. So it might be for like >> you know personal purposes just really likes the [ __ ] agriculture in the scenes there and wants to be able to point out where [ __ ] Frodo was running through the woods away with Gandal. I don't know.
37:35>> Yeah, but as in New Zealand another popular place for these uh >> Yes. for the billionaire bunkers. Yeah, >> that's right. We're going to have a podcast on that in July. I'm looking forward to that. But in he he got New Zealand citizenship in 2011 under a special provision that allowed the government to grant him a passport despite not meeting the country's usual residency requirements. The Times noted he later sought citizenship in Malta, according to previous reports, fueling criticism that the billionaire was assembling a portfolio of fallback jurisdictions in the event conditions deteriorated elsewhere. Here's here's
38:06the other thing, and I've said this now a million times, but we're just watching an example play out here in real life.
38:12This is this is why the ultra elite wealth gap that has formed to where like a billionaire now when they refer to a guy like this >> this is a whole different level than it was 20 years ago from a financial power standpoint when you're going to all these countries that have been yanked down through inflation over the years and are worth very little. He's a country and he gets to go in there as one man reportable to nobody and say, "Here's a bag."
38:42>> And what are they going to do? Say, "No, >> it's a bag.
38:45>> It's a bag.
38:46>> Give me the bag.
38:46>> You're Malta." I mean, most of us can't point to Malta on a [ __ ] map. And they're like, "But billionaire Pety Teal."
38:55>> Yep.
38:55>> He trying to come up in this [ __ ] >> He's doing that John McAfee [ __ ] >> Yes.
39:01>> John did it, too.
39:02>> Yeah.
39:02>> Absolutely.
39:04Yeah. So the like when people start becoming their own sovereign nations >> at least to a size where they can do it over certain places >> pay them off >> and then together in amalgamations if you will or combination is probably a better way to put it kind of run huge empire countries like America and other places like that.
39:28Yeah. It's it yeah it's weird. It's obviously I mean that's the whole basis of everything we're talking about with the Epstein files, but like this is it playing out on a [ __ ] Tuesday where he shows up to Malta and he's like, "Yeah, um so um can I um you know, so I'm trying to buy land and he can do that." In recent years, Teals is Teal has increasingly invoked religious and apocalyptic themes in public appearances. During interviews and speeches, he has often spoken about the Antichrist and warned that fear of existential threats could be used to justify the creation of one world government with sweeping powers. My
40:04brother in Christ, no pun intended, you are literally in the one world government. You're in the [ __ ] Bilderberg Commission. Like, what are we talking about here? This is this is like OJ, if if I did it, >> you're doing it. The [ __ ] are you talking about?
40:23like he can leak stuff like this or his people can leak stuff like this to the New York Times and'll be like, "Yeah, check this out." Yeah, he's real worried about that. Can we go back down to the bottom just in case I miss something deep? But like he's warning about the was there the antichrist warn the fear of existential threats that could be used to justify the creation of a one world government with sweeping powers.
40:44Now let's let's look at the other side of this. Peter Teal has funded a lot of libertarian type causes like more I don't know if freedom caucassacy if you will right-wing politicians over the years but he's running them >> and it's Trojan horsey type stuff. We're watching a lot of it play out every day right now. Left is right, right is left, middle is down. I like it doesn't even make any sense. So, not that I ever did, but in particularly now, I never pay attention to the political leanings of what people are funding. I try to pay attention to what they're trying to get through that no one would support. We're going to talk
41:26more about these data centers on Monday.
41:28We've been doing work on that and or next week when we do the episode.
41:34We've been doing work on that and it's like people are just [ __ ] in on it. It's like all the companies are in on it.
41:42They're paying everyone on the left and right. And then, you know, you get some politicians that are speaking out against it, but then other people are like, "Yeah, okay. Yeah, we'll sign away the [ __ ] rights to this land and 60 square miles. No, no problem."
41:54>> Yeah. And then then you get the people on board with dudes, you know, like on X that are like jerking clawed every day and they're like, "This is [ __ ] great. It's the new revolution, bro."
42:04No. So, yeah. The Times reported that those interests, referring to the one world government, have followed him to Buenosyus. At a dec at a recent dinner hosted at his mansion, the conversation reportedly turned to the Antichrist, a topic that has become one of his favorite subjects.
42:24Can you pull up the Peter Teal summary tweet right there?
42:29>> Mhm.
42:30>> Just cuz like this is this is the video game aspect of what these guys do. So this is from Far Dean TWWT on Twitter and he just wrote out like a bullet point. Be Peter Teal spent 20 years funding politicians who set America first. Helped put Trump in the White House twice. His company Palunteer makes $687 million in government contracts in a single quarter. Signed a $20 billion army deal through Anderil.
42:58California proposes a 5% tax on billionaires. quietly pack bags and say you're leaving because of the direction of the US and the risk of nuclear war.
43:06Already have new New Zealand citizenship since 2011. Already have a Maltese passport for EU access. That's interesting the way that he's putting that for EU access. Now moving to Argentina to hang out with my buying land in Uruguay. Possibly building a bunker. Previously tried to build a sovereign city in an ocean with its own laws. Let's Google that.
43:28previously tried to build a sovereign city in Honduras. Sued for 10 billion when they shut it down. America was always just the most convenient option, man. Must suck to be him, you know? And that that's where it gets to like if the world's ending or whatever, what's your money even worth, pal? Like if there were a nuclear holocaust, you got your security guards.
43:52Like what's it even worth? What are you doing? Douglas Rushkoff raised that point. It's like what's their incentive to not just whack you because you're annoying?
44:03Absolutely crazy. There's it. While you're looking at that, D, I want to pull up this other one right here. I got it.
44:08>> Here's here's the Oh, you already got it. A Silicon Valley V Silicon Valley billionaire's dream of a floating libertarian utopia may have finally been killed. Peter Teal's dream of a libertarian utopia in the middle of the ocean may have finally sunk. Radio New Zealand is reporting the French Polynesian government has not renewed its agreement to help the Sea Seasteading Institute, a group created in Silicon Valley build a permanent and politically autonomous settlement off the coast of the South Pacific Islands.
44:38In 2008, Teal, a billionaire investor, OE was early and Trump transition team member launched a mission to develop a floating city called a seastead that would operate independently from existing nations. He invested 1.7 million in the Seasteading Institute but resigned from its board in 2011. He later said in an interview that engineering seasteads is not quite feasible. Well, I'm glad he looked into it.
45:00>> Yeah.
45:01>> Glad he cleared that up for us.
45:02>> You got to try it.
45:04>> Also, right now Alan Misrai is pointing this out that he took a tweet right here. I I think you have it in that doc. I have it in front of me though as well. that inflation in Argentina is surging above 32% annually right now as Malaya's government asks for patience which again Javier Malay was the guy the Argentine current head of Argentina he ran on the whole like getting rid of government spending and government programs and everything and now his currency's [ __ ] inflating like That that's crazy. I'll get to Honduras thing in a second.
45:47>> But Alone Misrai says on Twitter, "The plan of Western elites is clear at this stage. They want to collapse Argentina completely, ethnically cleanse it, and take it over as the first fully corporation held state while destroying the rest of the world. I'm not sure they intend to stop after one country." I really hope he's completely wrong about that. I'm gonna be just throw that one out there. I haven't heard that theory yet. That's a new one. But when these people could just move around completely free to do as they please and, you know, dine with presidents and say, you know what, we're going to be
46:21here.
46:24You do wonder. You do wonder, right?
46:29And look, if if Argentina doesn't work out, they always got space.
46:33>> Yeah.
46:33>> They always got new planets.
46:34>> Yeah.
46:35>> Had a little setback this week, though.
46:37>> Why?
46:38>> You see that?
46:38>> No. I got it there. Blue Origin. You want to hit that first video from ABC?
46:43>> I did see that.
46:44>> Ah, sorry, Jeff.
46:46>> Did see that.
46:46>> Jeff comes up again. Tough day for Jeff.
46:50So, a Blue Origin rocket exploded on the launch tower in a fiery blast during a test of its engines on Thursday night, the company said. And here's the video of it. Let's play that real quick.
47:02>> All right. Can we get rid of the Get rid of the volume? We don't need that. Look at that. Bang.
47:08She's gone.
47:11She's gone. I have an article there, too, because there's this sick Elon Musk was tweeting back his condolences to Jeff Bezos. Because here's the other thing, people. I feel like, you know, it gets talked about on the internet, but like sometimes I I don't hear a lot of people talking about this out loud, but the whole space race thing a little interesting.
47:33>> We know why >> we do.
47:36>> Yeah. Yeah. Do we have a world exclusive from you right now?
47:38>> Well, they're they're going to abandon us. This is going to become like the slave planet.
47:46>> That mug, Marsha.
47:48>> This This was the mug I had today for the podcast. I just want to I want to reiterate this point cuz I I'm an optimist and I I don't want to be a part of a slave planet. And I think I think I think we're going to be okay.
48:02>> Yeah. Yeah. Future will be bright, but >> we'll be living in a cast system. And you know, if you're >> cast system, you're going to cast system.
48:09>> Yeah. We'll be here on Earth and like if you can afford it to get off, you'll be able to get off the planet. And if not, you'll be down here just hitting labor.
48:18But honestly, what's going to happen is it's they're going to molest the place of resources. So, if we don't if we don't stay here and do labor, we're going to go wherever they're going and being put to work, too.
48:32Just >> so they're gonna like stick us in the suit and send us to Mars and Yep.
48:37>> We all got to be like Matt Damon on Mars while they sit there.
48:42>> Yeah.
48:42>> And eat Mars food.
48:44>> Yeah. Like we're going to be down there doing all the mining and all the crazy [ __ ] that comes with building a new >> uh I could I got a swing. I got I got an overhead swing. But >> yeah, De's Steve's got >> Yeah, I got good rotation.
48:58>> I see I see the rotation. But the problem is is that uh a life of slaveitude or life of slavery doesn't sound fun.
49:08>> No. No. It's not it's not an exciting >> Yeah.
49:12>> Not an exciting proposition for sure.
49:14But there are two main companies that we're aware of that are constantly fighting for government contracts with NASA as they'd say down south. And that is SpaceX and Blue Origin by Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. Both billionaires pending trillionaire in one case.
49:33>> Yep.
49:34>> Right now with Elon Musk, we covered that last week. But y >> you know, I love space. I love the idea of exploration. I love the idea of, you know, expanding science to levels we haven't thought of. I hate the idea of having it run in some sort of like oligarchic, I don't even think that's a word, but you get my point. Type system where these people that are completely separated from reality are effectively running the race themselves. And I say that because the very obvious point is that they're so disconnected from they're not not even just like the average American or the average person around the world, but they're they're
50:15disconnected from like regular rich people. They're they're disconnected from literally all of humankind. And those are the main candidates of people who will quite literally fully make themselves believe in the mirror genuinely that they're the good guy doing the right thing and they are actually the Lex Luthther villain >> in the movie. And of course like we think that about some of these people.
50:39There's other people people go back and forth on like an Elon Musk and stuff like that. But I'm not comfortable with, you know, just these guys kind of having it. And maybe part of that is we got to have more opportunities for scientific breakthroughs and talent to be able to exist on its own. Meaning, you know, young people coming up who are coming up with great things. There's some sort of system, and I don't have a solution for this to be perfectly clear and fair, but some sort of system where it's not just you got to make one big company and become one of the big three or get a job at one of the big two that exists right
51:17now. where it's more like actual competition which by the way Peter Teal wrote a book called 0ero to1 that back in the day like when I was looking at venture capital and was really into that stuff I was like oh my god this guy's a genius and now it's like whoa you see it through the lens of how he looks at the world and in the book 0ero to one which like I remember you you can run it like episode 31 with [ __ ] Brady Berquette he and I were going back and forth on this like wow this guy's a genius that was back in 2020 before I knew a lot of this other [ __ ] about him But you know, the concept of that book is Peter Teal
51:51was arguing that monopolies are good and that a red ocean is bad. You want to attack a blue ocean and be the only shark in the ocean, right? He used the example of like a Korean restaurant. You don't want to open up a Korean restaurant in a city where there's another one because you got competition right away. You want to be the spot. You want to create something that people haven't done before. And so it's celebrating the fact that there's not winners, there's a winner.
52:19>> And this creates a lot of voices left out of the room.
52:25You know, like talked about it before, but you look at a guy like Michael Jordan, unbelievable career, unbelievable competitor, the greatest winner I've ever seen as far as like just we're going to get this done and I'm going be the greatest and that's how this is going to go. Like that dude was him. But I always wonder what would Michael Jordan have been like if he was the leader of a country?
52:52I'd see you laughing Nacho. I'd have the same reaction. I'm like, probably not great.
52:58Probably not great. You know, no disrespect. And he never tried to do that in his defense, but like >> there's a certain gene that ends up happening there where it's like you better watch where that's being put. And so when I when I see this, you know, now Bezos is the space guy. Elon Musk is like actually a legit lifelong space guy in a way.
53:19>> They're the ones sending rockets.
53:20Interesting. But back to the Blue Origins New Glenn rocket exploded in a huge fireball during a test in Florida.
53:27Here's what you need to know. According to Yahoo News, let's go down right here.
53:30This was this was, like I said, and like you saw, this was a big Yeah, I'm going to get to that. This was a big explosion, but an uncrrewed rocket, so luckily no people were harmed in this, which that is good news. Belonging to Jeff Bezos's Blue Origin exploded into a massive fireball Thursday night during a launchpad test. Video showed the 322 ft tall New Glenn rocket igniting on the pad on Cape Canaveral, Florida at around 9:00 p.m. local time before erupting into a bright orange ball of fire, engulfing the surrounding area and shaking nearby homes. Blue Origin confirmed it had experienced an anomaly
54:03during a so-called hot fire test, which is when a rocket is fired up while remaining anchored to the ground. Bezos confirmed that all personnel were safe and accounted for. "Very rough day," he said, "but we'll rebuild whatever needs rebuilding and get back to flying. It's worth it." adding that it was too early to know the root cause of what happened.
54:21Elon Musk, nice of him to come in here and chime in, right? Bezos's primary rival in the commercial real estate race posted on X. Sorry to see this. I hope you recover quickly. It was most unfortunate. Rockets are hard as only >> pause.
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54:45Anyway, it's not sponsored by Bluetooth, but Blue Origin was gearing up for the new Glenn rocket's fourth launch in June to put dozens of Amazon LEO internet satellites into Earth's low orbit, competing with Mus Starlink network. The satellites were not on the rocket at the time of the explosion, Reuters reported, citing a source familiar with the matter. Which, by the way, just, you know, not to get off the space race for a minute, thief, but >> you know what one we didn't talk about last week with Ashley St. Clair throwing out all these uh claims about >> Elon Musk?
55:20>> The [ __ ] space satellites >> affecting >> elections and [ __ ] >> Yeah. What was that all about?
55:29>> What was that all about?
55:30>> Was she just tweaking or was she >> She might have been tweaking.
55:34>> Yeah, she is like a former MAGA influencer.
55:37>> Yeah.
55:40Interesting.
55:41A lot of Starlink out there.
55:43>> Be interesting to get Hassan in here and ask him what he thought of that.
55:50>> You know, >> yeah, he he's having some trouble right now.
55:55>> Yeah. Which is unfair.
55:58Well, I don't know a lot of the details.
56:00>> I just don't think going after like creat you can't go after Yeah.
56:04>> especially like you got, you know, Nikki Shirley, the little poster child parading around Cuba.
56:12>> He was there.
56:13>> Yeah. So, he goes to Cuba. It's cool.
56:15>> Yeah.
56:16>> Han goes to Cuba. It's not cool.
56:18>> He's cuz he's not a part of the uh the mouthpiece for the administration, >> right? And so they're what I saw and again it's limited is that they're trying to accuse him uh and people with code pink of like staying at undesated hotels that are not allowed according to the state parks department's official list. And then what would this is where I was hazy because I haven't looked at all of it.
56:42They like accepting money from other governments for anti-American interests or something like that. Is that right?
56:49>> Yeah. I I'm not as wellversed on a yeti.
56:53Let's let's check that. But I I I do want to say this on that point.
56:56Regardless of whatever you think of Hassan Piker's political opinions or whatever, he's out there doing what everyone's supposed to do in America, which is practice free speech and say what you want and give your opinions.
57:07And these precedents that we've seen over the last 10 years set across the aisles, unfortunately, of going after people, be it in in politics, in media, etc. who have opinions that you really don't like and threatening them or straight up charging them with different things as a result of that is a big problem. It's it's a huge problem. Lawfair is becoming a weapon that is being used to sus suppress the first amendment in a courtroom.
57:46And to be clear, when people actually break the law and actually do things that are written in the letter of the laws like this is completely wrong, fine. Charge them. Charge everyone else though who does it too. I'll give an example on this.
58:02>> Charge people in the Epstein. Charge like hold people accountable with everything.
58:07>> I haven't even gotten there yet.
58:10They they indicted Paul Maniffort back in 2017 2018 who had been Trump's campaign manager and it's been a while since I looked at the case but essentially it had to do with him doing some undesated foreign lobbying for I want to say it was Yanukovich in Ukraine or something like that.
58:30>> It was an open secret. I'm I'm not saying you should do that. It was it was the basis of what they charge him with.
58:37It was against the law. It was an open secret on K Street at the time in Washington DC that [ __ ] everyone did this [ __ ] So they didn't charge Tony Podesta at the time who was doing the same [ __ ] John Podesta's brother because he was on the other side of the aisle and that wasn't what they wanted to do.
58:56They wanted to go after Trump's guy in that case. And now you see Trump going after his administration, going after someone like Hassan [ __ ] who's a content creator out here with opinions and whatever.
59:10Bad idea. You don't do it right. Like again, if if they prove that like Hassan [ __ ] broke a bunch of laws, I want to find all the other people who did that, including people on on their own side.
59:23Like they charged James Comey James Comey with the 8647 thing. Yeah, right.
59:30They're going to charge Jack Pobia for tweet for tweeting the same thing about Biden?
59:35I don't think so.
59:37>> Yeah, >> it has to work. First of all, you have to know the difference sometimes also in that context between like people satarizing things publicly even if it's wildly inappropriate and like the line between that and speech.
59:51That's number one. Number two, you have to do it equally on both sides if you're going to do it. So you better be [ __ ] careful setting that precedent. So I I'll look at the Hassan thing more, but I at first glance like that smelled to me a lot. Like the fact that they're going after him for that.
60:06>> No, it's it smells like McCarthyism.
60:08>> It smells Yeah.
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