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10:18Hi everybody. Welcome to today's show.

10:22How are we?

10:27Okay. So, I'm going to get right to it.

10:29Um, we have to fellas from the Duran are coming later. They're going to be joining us. Let's do um So, you know, the White House correspondents dinner.

10:39This is what happened.

10:42>> Shots fired just outside the White House correspondents dinner, spreading panic as President Trump, the first lady, and top administration officials gathered with journalists for the annual event being held at the Washington Hilton Hotel. Secret Service agents stormed the stage to shield the president and vice president while hundreds of guests took cover under tables.

10:59>> They didn't exactly storm it. I We'll get back to that in a second.

11:02>> Inside the ballroom, surveillance video shows a suspect, 31-year-old Cole Thomas Allen attempt to run past a perimeter checkpoint before being stopped by law enforcement. Acting US Attorney General Todd Blanch on Meet the Press this morning.

11:14>> We believe that he was targeting administration officials in in this attack, attempted attack. Officials say a Secret Service officer was shot at close range during a confrontation but survived because of a protective vest.

11:24As authorities look into the suspect's background and motive, they say he came armed with multiple weapons.

11:29Investigators searched the suspect's Torrren's home and recovered writings in his hotel room critical of Trump and his administration. President Trump was asked about the suspect's manifesto Sunday during a 60 Minutes interview.

11:39>> I read a manifesto he's radicalized. He was a Christian uh believer and then he became an anti-Christian and he had a lot of change. He's been going through a lot based on what he wrote.

11:52>> There have been at least two prior attempts on Mr. Trump's life leading to criticism of a possible security breach at such a high-profile event.

11:59>> The system worked. We were safe.

12:01President Trump was safe. His Secret Service agents have kept him safe. It >> was clear to me that in his head he probably realized he wasn't going to be able to get all the way into the secure ballroom. Michael Matanga is a former Secret Service agent who has worked events at the Holton before.

12:14>> I don't necessarily consider a couple hundred yards or more extremely close to the president or to any of the protectes. Um I >> it was clear to me that he knew that he was not going to be able to fulfill his mission, which is why he chose, you know, the desperate attempt of trying to run past the checkpoints.

12:30>> President Trump thanked federal law enforcement for their quick actions to keep everyone safe, saying he wasn't worried there would be any casualties or injuries. He says plans are in the works to reschedule the event now for >> so you see what happens when you don't book a comedian to host the show that's what happens so the there's just to let you know spoiler alert this was a scop this was not real I mean that guy probably was there that guy probably did pull the trigger this was all engineered by the establishment and I'll tell you what exactly why they did it coming up in just a second but

13:05just to show you how lack the uh yikes a f caught on hot mic talking about the security at the correspondence dinner and how lax it was. You want to hear what they said here.

13:41Why can't Okay, hold on. I got to How come I don't understand why I can't hear this guy? I heard it when I played it.

13:47Hang on.

13:49>> You turn it up.

14:02Okay. Well, that's weird. Uh that I can't hear that because I could hear it when I played it today.

14:10Uh what they're saying is they have like two random chicks holding the front door open. Like guys, they're not even trying anymore. They're not even Secret Service people. It's like girls who work here.

14:22So that's what they were saying.

14:25That's what they were saying. I don't know why you can't hear that audio. I could hear it perfectly. Um, but here is a retired CIA analyst today talking about the uh what he thinks happened.

14:37>> Thank you for the chance to chat. Uh, the story stinks to high heaven. Let me explain the the some of the issues and let me let me emphasize this is not just my opinion. Uh, I've got a buddy who ran Reagan's security detail after Reagan was shot. experienced Secret Service officer. He actually set up the training protocols that Secret Service is supposed to adhere to, which they are no longer following. Now, let me emphasize that. So, the first thing that caught my eye, the first person that's taken off the stage, so you got gunfire outside of the ballroom, it's not inside the ballroom. The first person to be taken

15:22off stage was JD Vance. And I looked at go, "What? what in God's name is going on?

15:28>> And then it was almost 30 seconds later until they took the president off. So I'm I'll show you that video. I think I have it coming up. But the first person they did take off was JD B. And they took him off like that. And then Trump was sitting there looking around for at least 15 seconds, possibly 30.

15:46>> The protocol, the standard, the requirement is the president. Get the pres. Everybody else can die. The president, that's who you save. That's what Secret Service is supposed to be trained to do. They didn't do that. They take off JD Vance. So, you're going, "Okay, what's going on?"

16:05Trump initially, >> what's going on is that it's a scop.

16:08That's what's going on. What's going on was this was engineered by the deep state or the Trump administration, um, the FBI, the CIA. This was engineered. And I'm just going to go ahead and tell you the reason why was Trump's ballroom was stopped by a judge. A judge did not I don't know if you heard that story said you can't do this without an act of Congress or if there's an it there has to be an extreme security reason. So they just manufactured a sec. This is the first time Trump goes to the White House correspondence dinner and this happens and they immediately and Trump doesn't look flustered whatsoever.

16:46Nobody does. They go have this. He's very calm at his press conference and he's like, "Well, this is why we got to have the new ballroom and that's exactly what happened." Okay, so spoiler alert, that's exactly why that's why this all happened. And uh MK Ultra, you think they stopped doing that? Again, there's another lone nut guy. Really? So, this guy, one of the smartest guys in the world, he went to Caltech, he's teacher of the year, all that stuff. Decide, never committed a crime in his life. All of a sudden, he's going to go do an assassination. He realizes he can't get in. He's not going to even get close.

17:18So, he decides to shoot some Secret Service people. It doesn't make any sense unless they MK altered him. Uh, again, don't think they Do you think they stopped that program? Really? You think they stopped weather modification because they signed a treaty in 1970 that said they wouldn't do it?

17:35>> You know, everybody else is ducking behind tables. He's sitting there calmly looking around like, >> "That's right.

17:40>> Did he know this was going to happen?"

17:42>> Uh-huh.

17:42>> Was this staged? I believe it was staged.

17:45>> There you go. So we'll get into that. Uh the second thing is the the failure of the security perimeter that it was not properly set up. So the the way this should be done is you have a perimeter outside the hotel. Okay? So you you set the first layer that nobody gets past that first layer unless they have a right to be in that hotel. They can show that they're a guest or that they got an invitation. Otherwise, nobody gets Uh here's another guy. Uh this is retired Lieutenant Colonel Tony Aguilar who's been on this show. Uh and he concurs that this was a scop and a setup.

18:27>> I I agree with Larry and that not only does it stink to High Heaven, it was entirely bizarre and what is akin to a high school play. When you look at who was who was present, uh the administration, Trump had his cast of clowns and his cabinet of idiocracies all convened at the Washington Hilton.

18:43But what's ironic is that, you know, the Secret Service has a very robust security plan for that specific hotel because if we all recall in March of 1981, that's where the same hotel that Ronald Reagan was shot in. It's why it's called the the the Hilton Hinckley because of John Hinkley that that fired those shots. So, uh the fact that the security was so lackluster, unprofessional, uh the the shooter was able to penetrate to the depth that he did with seemingly no objective with a shotgun, a pistol, and a knife unless he was Charlie Bronson or trying to reenact something from the uh you know, from a

19:10from a bad B type action movie. This was the setup. Uh this is this is another attempt for Donald Trump to bring attention um during very low polling. Uh and it brings a lot of uh question and a lot of scrutiny onto what actually happened in Butler. I think uh this shows another hand of that same.

19:24>> Okay. So um his theory is that it's because his polling is low. I don't think it that's why they did it. Um but uh here I I'll tell you a federal judge, US District Judge Richard Leon, ruled in late March, so just a few weeks ago, he ruled that the construction of President Trump's planned $400 million White House ballroom must be halted until Congress provides explicit statutory authorization.

19:54Um the exception is the initial order allowed work strictly necessary for safety and security for example underground bunker elements.

20:05In midappril Leon clarified reiterated that the halt on above ground ballroom construction rejecting the administration's attempt to classify the entire project as a national security matter to bypass the ruling.

20:20So when they went to the press conference, I'm going to show you that in a second, but that's the first everybody's tweeting out like crazy, hey, this is why we need the ballroom. This is why we need the ballroom. This is why we need And we all know now that's the that just like they had the Khive when Kla Harris was running for president. They have the same right-wing media, independent media people taking orders from the White House and repeating it. We've showed you that happen over with the Candace Owens thing with TPUSA. now with with this and um so that's uh that's this is my thinking. Uh but here you want to see uh

20:57here here they are taking here's JD Vance now Trump is over here. Here's JD Vance. Let's watch how fast they get him out of there. Uh this guy says this is very interesting and weird from last night. JD Vance was escorted out before Donald Trump. Then Donald Trump falls down as he's getting escorted out.

21:14>> So let's watch.

21:17All right.

21:18>> So JD Vance is out in about I don't know 3 seconds. Is that even 3 seconds? Let's Let's go. 1 1000 2 100 3 100 4 He's gone. Trump is still sitting there.

21:32Let's watch.

21:40>> Trump is still there.

21:41>> He's still there.

21:44>> He then he falls down.

21:54So JD fans, I think his secret his secret service is different than Trump's detail. So maybe they didn't get the memo that this was all fake.

22:05Who? That's what it looks like. It looks like they didn't get the memo. Uh, so let's let's see how long it took him.

22:19>> So he's out.

22:221,000 2,000 3,000 4,000 5,000 6,000 7,000 8,000 9,000 10,000 11,000 12,000 13,000 14,000 15,000 16,000 17,000 18 So about 20 seconds.

22:43About 20 seconds, which is a lifetime when there's an assassination happening.

22:49That's amazing how much longer it took them to get Trump out of there than it took to get JD Vance out of there. But let's wa Let's watch this. This guy put this together. It was pretty good. Uh, and we'll go through it.

23:00>> Check this out.

23:01>> Quickly tell you, I was sitting next to Caroline Levit, um, the press secretary's husband. He was seated right next to me and then he kind of leaned over and said, you know, I watched you on TV. You did a great job. You need to be very safe. And and he was just very serious when he said that to me. And he kind of looked around the room and he said, you know, there are some >> And then they cut her off.

23:18So, she's calling into Fox News live on her phone and she's she starts to say something they don't want to be said and they cut her off and then they make a BS excuse and the excuse was, "Oh, when a lot of people are using their cell in the same place, it overloads the system and that happens." Uh, yeah, if it was 2003, it's 2026.

23:39That doesn't happen.

23:42So, I'll play it again. Listen how they >> quickly tell you. I was sitting next to Caroline Levit, um the press secretary's husband. He was seated right next to me and then he kind of leaned over and said, "You know, I watch you on TV. You do a great job. You need to be very safe and and he was very serious when he said that to me and he kind of looked around the room and he said, you know, there are some there are some what we I guess we'll never know." Now, she later uh said, "Oh, no. It was nothing.

24:06I don't know what happened." And so, you know, of course, she's going to say that, but uh so that's that's again another weird kinky dig, isn't it? Here we go. Keep going. There's more from this guy.

24:17>> They cut her phone off. They stopped her from talking live on air. And this is the person who allegedly did this. Now, what's absolutely wild that this random account, Henry Martinez, joined X, on December 2023 and tweeted out one name, Cole, on December 21st, 2023.

24:36>> Isn't that weird? And that's the only tweet that they ever made.

24:41And watch this. a motive.

24:43>> And I will say, you know, it's not a particularly secure building. I didn't want to say this, but this is why we have to have all of the attributes of what we're planning at the White House.

24:53It's actually a larger room and it's a much more secure. It's got it's drone proof. It's bulletproof glass. We need the ballroom. That's why secret service.

24:59That's why the military are demanding it. The white. So there you go. So that was the whole point of this. That's the whole reason Trump has never showed up at a White House correspondence dinner.

25:08He shows up and immediately there's a pretend assassination attempt by some guy lone nut who's been MK Ultra didn't even get why would he start shooting if he knows he can't get into the ballroom which he knew and as those guys say was 100 yards away from getting in or something like that.

25:26Why? So if his if he wanted to kill the president, why would he just start shooting random security people which is what he did? They say one guy got shot in the chest and he had a he had a bulletproof vest on and he's okay.

25:40Why would So that's again that So that also doesn't make sense. If his one If his big idea was I want to kill the president cuz I'm a crazy lefty.

25:50Oh, and then he realizes he can't. Why would he just start killing random people? That's not what that that does that's not logical at all.

25:59Um so now watch this. Watch what he dug up.

26:03So Trump had replaced the architects for this ballroom. And guess who he replaced them with?

26:08>> House East Wing Ballroom project where Donald Trump fired the McCreary architects and replaced them with Shalom Barness Associates. This ballroom, the one that has the blueprint that looks exactly like Solomon's temple. And what does Shalom Barness Associates have experience with? Doing multiple synagogue renovations, renovating temples. And you remember America reads the Bible 2026, a historic call to return to God's word that literally finished today where Donald Trump read the Bible and he specifically read 2 Chronicles 7 11-22. So what does 2 Chronicles 7 deal with? The dedication of the temple where the Lord appears to

26:42Solomon after Solomon finished building the temple. And the Lord gave him a vision saying, "When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain or command a locust to devour the land or send plagues among my people, if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and I will forgive their sins." This is what Donald Trump read. And so is this a play to get the third temple built?

27:05So, multiple efferie. And yes, I wish Kurt was here because I'm sure he would have a lot to say about this. Uh, but yes, uh, there you go. Hey, here's a question. How did those first two temples work out? That's my That's my question. Um, and now we So, if you want to know what's happening, that's what's happening. It could be It could be dual or triple purposes. It could be that.

27:29Uh, the thing is they definitely wanted to get this ballroom built.

27:33And I'm sure it's being pushed and it makes sense what he just said that if it's being pushed by Israel, Trump's going to try to do everything he can to make it happen because he's obviously compromised by Israel. Now whether he's in the Epstein files or his kids are in the Epstein files or his wife, they have him some there somehow they have him obviously and so that would make sense.

28:00Why would he fire that architecture term?

28:03uh team. Why would they hire that one to build temples?

28:07Of course, he's completely controlled by Israel. Completely. The whole war is because of Israel.

28:14And uh you know, he's still funding a genocide. The whole deal.

28:18Uh so, and he so the judge stopped the construction of the ballroom and here we are. Except the only thing you do is if it's for uh security purposes. So, here you go.

28:32Um, and now let's see. So that's it. You got it. You're You live in one big SCOP.

28:39And of course, uh, we've been now now now other people are starting to question Butler, Pennsylvania. We've been questioning it ever since we found out that Donald Trump shut down that investig. We've been questioning it since it started. The cops saying, "Yeah, we saw him. A guy with a backpack and a scope inside restricted area. We saw him three times, but then he disappeared." What? What do you mean he disappeared? Don't you lock lock down everything? There's a guy somewhere in restricted area with a scope and a backpack and don't we don't start the event until we find that guy or make sure he's not here, which they didn't.

29:12They just they did nothing.

29:15And then there's got and nobody's watching the roofs. People in the crowd saw crooks on the roof, but the cops didn't see them. The local police, the sheriff, the county police, the secret service, nobody saw them. They have they had guys Secret Service on the tops of other buildings. They weren't looking at the tops of the other. Of course not.

29:34Just like with Charlie Kirk. Nobody's watching the roof.

29:38So of course we've been questioning it ever since then since it's happened. But we've been doubly questioning if Donald Trump was in on it because he shut down the investigation. He doesn't care.

29:49Doesn't want to know who did it. So now this. Okay. Now, Donald Trump in my mind definitely in on the the the Butler, Pennsylvania shooting. That was a scop.

30:02Um, just like this was a scop. Did they did Were they able to MK Ultra somebody to do it? Yes. And that's the problem they had with Tyler Robinson. He was MK Ultra to go and uh do a suicide by cop, but he didn't.

30:17And he turned himself in and it screwed up their plan, which is why they had to change the text messages. They had to do all kinds of stuff and now they're like, "What are we how are we going to do this?" So that's what happened. Okay, now let's look at how what how Cash Patel responded. Cash Patel to and his take charge leadership that he's famous for.

30:38Here he is during the White Here he is just sitting there. Watch.

30:45There he is. That's the head of the FBI sitting sitting there like he he's a he's a he's an assistant to a reporter like he's an intern. He's the head of the FBI just sitting there.

31:06Everybody else diving under their tables, cops running everywhere. And here's Caspel just sitting there. Shouldn't you be up barking orders at somebody or something?

31:21That's amazing. Wow.

31:25And when I say he's the FBI director, I mean this is all just a movie. That's what I mean. And when I say he's taking charge, he's taking charge of his bladder because eventually he does have to stand up again.

31:37So here he is outside. Uh who caught this?

31:40>> I think this was >> Titus touch. So, here he is outside of the event just on the phone. Looks like he's just trying to get an Uber. Let's watch.

31:48>> Do you guys have any idea what what happened in there?

31:51>> I know. Sorry.

32:02Sorry, sorry.

32:10>> Just kind of standing there looking at his phone, texting, >> not a command center, >> playing Angry Birds.

32:18>> Is He's just checking his Uber. Where's my Uber?

32:22>> Where's my Uber?

32:25>> He's just standing there.

32:28>> Other people are doing lots.

32:33That's hilarious.

32:38>> Oh, there's Erica. Is that Erica? Yes.

32:40Is that who that is?

32:41>> She just wants to go home.

32:43>> Start crying.

32:46>> Start crying.

32:49Uh oh. I know what happened. Cash was instructed if anything happens to Donald Trump, he's immediately to call Erica Kirk.

32:58That's what happened.

33:00Uh, and here he is, uh, on Fox News.

33:02>> I mean, just remind everyone, this was almost the entirety of the president's cabinet, the president, vice president himself, and 2,000 members of the media.

33:12This is something the movies don't even write about something like this, this kind of scenario, this kind of tragedy.

33:17And thankfully, the quick reaction of law enforcement, we're not going to be, we're going to be able to present to the world in less than 36 hours almost, uh, exactly what happened. this individual's entire background, entire background, who he knew, where he lived, who he was talking to, everything about the firearms, everything about the ballistics. Of course, he's going to be able to tell us all that because they're the ones who made it all up.

33:41Of course. And I want to show you one more thing. Somebody uh caught this guy.

33:46I don't know who this guy is. He's sitting on the deis and there's a shooting happening. And let's watch what he does.

33:55You can turn it down.

33:58>> Well, so there they go. They're going they're running over and he just starts taking pictures.

34:03>> There's an active shooting shooter. They took out JD Vance. Now they're going over to get and he's just taking pictures.

34:12There's a lot of people doing that.

34:14Here's one more thing I want to show you. Here's a lady who's going to tell you uh I got this from Baron Coleman show that she saw the guy in a side room where they carry catering carts and he went in there. There was a security guy in there with a dog and he takes out his gun and puts it together. Let's watch.

34:34>> Yeah. And everyone was pretty much in and a lot of people had already gone.

34:38where she doing dinner breaks and shifts and I was out there and there was no security there and I was even talking to the security guard that had a dog there >> and there's a room well it was like a makeshift room I think they had it closed off to wheel in the bar carts after their reception >> all these numerous bar carts going into this area I think to go in the elevator and downstairs so it looked like a makeshift room >> he I I mean he was literally for key to that building and he and there was there was a security guy there, too. I mean, I don't think anyone knew what he was doing.

35:15>> Describe what he looked like.

35:17>> So, let me just position what's going on here. She says there's a little room that they were using to store bars. This alleged shooter goes in the room and it's just right there. And she said there's a security guy there, too.

35:23>> Yeah.

35:24>> And there's a dog presumably, some sort of law enforcement dog. I doubt it's just a schnowzer wandering around the lobby of the Washington held in a while since she mentioned it.

35:28>> Okay.

35:29>> So, you have presumably a security guy, some sort of security dog, all present, all accounted for. And um and there's no explanation at this point for why the guy is not being stopped from what he's doing. I'm going to let her continue. I just wanted to set that stage for you so you can do this.

35:43>> In post, cut out Baron Coleman cuz I already said what he said.

35:45>> I'm not even sure what he looked like.

35:47>> And what made you think he's the shooter? How do you know he's a guy?

35:49>> I saw him put the gun together and start shooting.

35:53>> So what makes >> So there was a security guy there in this little makeshift room where they're keeping the bar carts. She's there. The shooter's there. He takes the gun out and puts it together and the security guard doesn't do anything.

36:09Okay, there you go. All right, let's get let's let's get um I we think we're going to get Cash Patel on the phone.

36:15Can we get Cash Mattel on the phone?

36:18>> All right. Yeah. Yeah.

36:19>> Yeah, let's go to a break and we'll be right back with Mike M.

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38:04>> Okay, so we have Cash Patel on the line.

38:06>> Wait a minute. We got to plug in your your >> Oh, okay. Wait, this what?

38:12>> I don't know. Oh, this.

38:16>> Okay.

38:30Okay, we have Cash Patel on the line.

38:31Hello. Hey, this is Jimmy Door. Is this Cash?

38:35>> Yeah, dude. What's up? It's Cash Patel.

38:36>> Hey, FBI Director Patel. What a surprise. I'm sure things are a little hectic over at the bureau, so thanks for taking time, but how are you holding up after the shooting the other night?

38:47Uh, you know, it's been crazy, dude. I'm not going to lie. Uh, a lot of wheels are turning for sure at the moment. A lot of moving parts. Uh, but as with every other incident since my tenure, the full focus of the Department of Justice will be uh, uh, laser focused on this foresight incident and the public will be apprised of all relative details uh, for sure. But yeah, it was up, dude. No cap.

39:11>> I see it. But it it it must have been wild to be in your position, you know, to be the top law enforcement official in the country physically present at an assassination attempt.

39:23>> Yeah. No, it was overwhelming, dude. It was like, oh you know.

39:28>> Yeah, I would imagine. I suppose you probably felt the need to jump right into action, huh?

39:34>> Oh, no doubt, dude. For sure.

39:36Immediately I was like, "Okay, here we go. This is not a drill. Uh, all systems go. Defcon 5. Time to handle this situation as the head of the FBI. Again, dude, laser focused.

39:50>> So, you reacted to the situation immediately, >> dude. My training kicked in the second I heard uh gunshots. Spider-Man like reaction time. I impressed myself by how quickly I began to handle this situation, quite frankly. Well, that's funny because the video I saw in the immediate aftermath of the shooting, it showed you sitting at a banquet table just sort of looking around, >> right? Okay. Well, yeah. Exactly. I mean, the first step of handling a situation is assessing the situation, right?

40:22>> Yeah.

40:22>> And how do you assess the situation? You look around at You calmly sit and get a 360deree vista of the environs.

40:31This is what we're trained to do, dude.

40:32textbook.

40:34>> And and then the next step >> uh depart the scene of the incident uh to perhaps an outer sidewalk type area and continue to observe, contact other law enforcement entities or whoever via telephone. Uh, and using said smartphone, check what Uber arrival times might be at that moment in order to facilitate a self- extraction if necessary >> or a non-emergency egress later, you know, after like a few more drinks or whatever.

41:07>> Uh, I I I I see I assume that that this is also textbook.

41:13>> Textbook, dude. Absolutely textbook.

41:15Assuming you saw that video and that's what you're asking about. Yeah, that's but it was primarily the Secret Service who stopped the shooter. Correct.

41:23>> Yes, for sure. The Secret Service did a remarkable job containing a situation and neutralizing the asalent uh within a brilliantly short amount of time. They did their job. The FBI's job is now investigating the incident, looking into the shooter's background, and kind of making up about him.

41:44>> I see. And when did your role take over from the Secret Services?

41:50>> Almost immediately, really. Uh, the chief agent on the scene found me outside on my phone and asked what should be done with the suspect. And honestly, I didn't really know. This is my first shooting I was at like ever.

42:02And when I got hired, no one really taught me what to do. So, I told him whatever whatever you feel like doing with them.

42:13>> Right. Okay.

42:15And and he was like, "Uh, with all due respect, sir, that is an insufficient response. We're going to need an answer." And I'm like, "Fuck, dude. I don't know." Uh, okay. it. Take all his clothes off and cover them in tin foil. Obviously, I was kidding. Totally being sarcastic. But they did it, dude. They did that So bad I couldn't even be mad. I was like, "Ah, sick."

42:42>> Okay. What is your investigation? Where does it stand as far as the motivation of this shooter?

42:48>> Glad you asked, dude. Uh, currently we are working to establish motive uh of a radical far-left type, perhaps a trans related issue, a trans sort of identity.

42:59Basically trying to establish a transite type situation in here somehow.

43:04>> So, so far I haven't read anything about the shooter and trans issues or identities.

43:12Okay. Yeah. Well, just sit tight. Just hold on, dude. It's coming.

43:17>> Did you personally feel in danger during the incident?

43:21>> Nah, dude. balls of steel. You know me. Doubt my heart rate even broke 75. I was like, there's no way he can see me all the way down underneath his table.

43:31>> Okay. Thank God. Uh, another interesting thing is that in the shooters manifesto, he said he would be targeting Trump and everyone in the cabinet except you specifically Cash Patel.

43:44>> Well, I'm not technically a member of the cabinet, so whatever.

43:48>> But he specifically said he wouldn't target you.

43:52>> I mean, that's one interpretation.

43:55>> That's not an interpretation. That's what he wrote.

43:58>> Well, that's not a great look for me, dude. So, let's maybe skip that Okay. To have an assassin say, "Nah, Tash Patel is cool." As he goes to shoot my superiors, is pretty honestly.

44:09>> Why do you think he spared you?

44:12>> I don't know, but if it's because I'm not white, I'm going to be so pissed. I have worked my ass off my whole life to prove in spite of my skin color to prove that I can be just as much of an as any white dude, that I belong in the realm of frat jerks and date rapists and can thrive and shine there. And this guy chooses to not shoot me just because I'm Indian.

44:33Honestly, dude, that sucks. It takes me right back to times in my life where I was otherred because I was different.

44:39And that hurts.

44:40>> I'm sorry.

44:42>> Oh, yeah. that, dude. But that tinfoil gives me a rash. All right.

44:48Well, I got to go. I gota I just got a text from Randy and them saying they found a picture of the shooter in college dressed as a woman at some party.

44:57Time to run an angle, dude. as we say. All right, I'll see you later, Jimmy. Until next time, you know me, I'll be framing shooters and wrecking cooters.

45:11>> Okay, that was Cash Patel checking in.

45:14Cash Patel on the job. All right, we're going to take a break and we'll be right back with the guys from uh Duran.

45:21>> The Duran. We'll be right back.

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51:05Okay. RC says International Bureaucrat Gangster Network runs USA. And you're back, RC. Psychological interference weapon on Americans.

51:16Sheen or Sheen family wearing silicon masks playing Trump. RC says, "Where's the real Trump?" That's definitely not him. I think it's him. He fell. He got up from a chair and he fell, right? Is an actor wearing a silicon mask playing Trump. It was funny when we were watching that RC. We're like, he couldn't look more bored. And go figure, the day there's a shooter at the correspondence dinner, Trump finally decides to come to the correspondence.

51:42What are the odds?

51:43>> I think it's a kinka. I think it's a kuiga dinking. Uh MTube says this was debunked by an authentic SS veteran and trainer who appeared on the Judge Nap Npalitano. He said obviously JD's so uh security team was closer so he got out first. Then that's shitty security m >> that's bad security that the first you're you're closer to the vice president's security team than Trump's security team. All right, I had my argument with you M2, but thanks for showing up. Why is there even a debate about it? It was fake. It was effing fake. Like the shot ear scene >> like the shot like the butler Pennsylvania.

52:22>> Look at you lifey coming in with some hard facts. I just want to go home.

52:28>> Who is that?

52:28>> Who is that?

52:29>> That was Erica Kirk.

52:30>> That's right. Somebody uh Bangaround says Erica shitty actress Kirk. Do you even know where that is? Oh, look at you bang around.

52:38>> Whoa.

52:39>> I think the deep state are trying to replace Trump with Vance. You think weakest link and they also assassinated Kirk because he could potentially run against Vance in the future. AJ >> Oh, you think that was it?

52:50>> Colorado. My opinion of Trumpstein hasn't changed. He's a scenile, demented, corrupt pedo, Israel first traitor.

52:59>> People are going hard in this in this in the super chats.

53:02>> Yeah, they are. But there are also some crazies today.

53:06>> Jimmy, you're wrong.

53:07>> You mean more crazy?

53:08>> I tuned in to see Jimmy, not Jimmy Kimmel. I'm >> ah Jimmy's telling the truth about Trump. I don't want to know it.

53:17>> No. Uh-uh. Uh, what about >> You really thought I was going to say anything different than I said?

53:21>> I those and you know it. All those uh little trolls. You're cute.

53:26>> Your your little robotic troll.

53:28Soundchaser. What about Fisa's spying bill?

53:31>> Soundaser. No kidding. Right.

53:33>> Um Davey came in best comedy skit of the year so far.

53:38>> So let me >> back to Jim. Let me bring in our guests.

53:41Uh the hosts of the Duran, Alex Christophoro and Alexander Mccurus. I think I got it right. Uh the co-hosts of Duran popular online news channel providing unique insight into a rage of geopolitical issues.

53:56>> For my money, they're the best duo in the world. Let's welcome Alex and Alexander.

54:02>> Welcome back to the show, fellas.

54:04>> Well, thank you very much, Jimmy. And it's a great pleasure to be here, if I can say. Now, I just want to show you this. Um, I don't know if you saw it was actually Lindsey Graham who tackled the guy and uh, he got the shooter. All heroes don't wear capes. All heroes don't wear capes. There he was. He said, uh, >> no.

54:24>> He said, "Normally, I use Matt for my yoke. I use a but Matt wasn't available and today I had to use this guy as a >> Did you So, is there any reaction across the pond to that to the shooting?"

54:38Oh, there's been huge amount of talk about it and much discussion. Um, of course, we are not in Britain quite as, you know, up to date with all the minutia of what has happened. But um um obviously people have been very very interested and much discussion about a completely totally relevant subject about how this would affect the king's visit to the United States which I have to say for me in amidst everything else that's going on is about the least interesting thing that you could possibly talk about. But the British do love their monarchy and they do talk about it all the time whenever they can.

55:16So, no, no, no, nothing serious. You you don't think it a potential assassination of the president is serious?

55:24>> I I think by now people have become used to pretty much anything where Donald Trump is concerned, certainly in Britain. And um once upon a time, not so very long ago, this would have been enormous news in Britain. But today somehow even though as it's c there's got been a lot of coverage and it's been all over the media it's not perhaps quite hit home to the extent that it has in the United States as one might expect. So um people are worried about the war people are worried about the economy. We have a major governmental and corruption crisis playing out in the UK as well. Um these are the topics that

56:09interest the people in Britain most and as the political class um they don't like Donald Trump at all for many reasons. U different from the reasons that other people in the United States don't like him. I mean you know they find him um rather unpredictable and vulgar and difficult to understand and difficult to cope with um about attacking Iran. Well that's not such a big deal for them. But anyway, they they they are they are more concerned about these other things and they really do wonder whether sending the king at this time is really such a great idea, but he's going. So, uh there we are.

56:48>> So, when when you when you say uh people are more worried about the war, which war?

56:54>> Yeah. I mean, in Britain, it is overwhelmingly the war in Iran. I mean, that's the one they're focused on. Um, a lot of people, a a lot of young people especially, care an awful lot about Gaza and the conflict there. And this is a very big issue politically in Britain. I mean, it's lost the Labor Party. Um, it's u support amongst young people and bear in mind the young people were voting heavily for the Labor Party.

57:25Whereas I say young people, I mean by that people under 40 to be quite clear.

57:30They care about Gaza. They're now switching, if they're leftwing, which most of them are to the Green Party.

57:38That's for them still even more important as a war than the war in with Iran. But that that is that is the war that they are mostly concerned about at the present time. It is the war in the Middle East, the wars in Iran and Gaza.

57:55Those are the wars that they care about.

57:57Ukraine. Well, that's more a matter for the elite.

58:02>> Really? That's how So, uh, Alexander, what do you say?

58:07>> Uh, here in uh in Cyprus and Greece, they're very concerned about uh about the war in in the Middle East with Iran because it affects tourism, Jimmy.

58:16>> Right.

58:17>> They're very very concerned about how this is going to affect the tourist season. Uh when the war kicked off, there were a lot of cancellations. A lot of uh people were cancelling their their trips to to the island and uh and the government's very worried that the tourist season is going to get hit really hard, whether it's uh it's the fear of traveling uh into the region, whether it's uh it's the rising cost of traveling, the rising cost of jet fuel.

58:45So, there's a lot of uncertainty and there's a lot of uh a lot of fear that uh that it's going to be a very bad summer if this thing doesn't get resolved quickly and it doesn't look like it's going to get resolved quickly.

58:56So, >> is it No, >> that's the sentiment here.

58:58>> Is is that a popular destination for Israelis to go vacation?

59:03>> Uh Cyprus.

59:04>> Yeah, >> Cypress and Greece. Uh yes, it's a popular destination to to also um invest in and to purchase property as well.

59:14And >> it also acts I mean Cyprus also acts for for Israel. It acts as uh how do I explain as an easy like like an an easy entry and exit point as well because we're only about a 20 25 minute flight from Cyprus to to Tel Aviv.

59:38So it acts as an easy way for for Israelis to make it to to Europe and maybe to even go f further down to the United States or whatever. So they use Cyprus and then from Cyprus they're in the EU and they can travel onwards and and vice versa as well if if people want to travel towards Israel. Cypress is a easy place to to make the trip.

60:00>> Is are there are there any military installations in Cypress?

60:06Uh we have the uh the two British overseas uh uh air bases. The territories, those are British uh overseas territories, though they're not considered part of the Republic of Cyprus.

60:18>> So when we got our independence in 1960, uh the British decided to keep two air bases as part of the uh the the independence uh agreement, the independence treaty. And uh and those are actually considered to be British uh territory.

60:33>> Oh, really? Okay. Because I I I thought I remembered something about the military planes offering us taking off from Cyprus to I don't know if to to bomb Gaza or to help refuel or do something uh for Israel. Did I am I making that up? Did I imagine that? um dur during um yeah during Gaza there was it was quite a a big a big scandal what was happening I would say on the island the use of the bases of the British bases um and there was a lot of pressure on the government to try and do something.

61:10Uh the interesting part was that this time around with the Iran war way in the beginning uh there was a couple of drones that were fired into the bases.

61:21At least that's the narrative that we got. Um, one drone hit uh one of the bases here uh in Lima Masal where I am staying right now currently. It didn't do any damage. There were no injuries or anything like that. But many people believe that was a type of warning from uh from Iran using using Hezbollah. So the drone was not fired from Iran. It was just fired from from nearby where Hezbollah was in Lebanon. and they fired the drone into the British base and it was kind of a a brushback message. Uh this time around, don't use the bases and don't get involved in in this conflict. And uh it it appears to have

61:59worked to be quite honest. Um the government has has has worked exceptionally hard to to keep the bases uh out of this conflict.

62:11>> Okay. All right. Even though once again it's not really under their control, >> right?

62:16>> Which is which is the weird part about it.

62:18>> That is a weird That's weird. It's weird that the United States has a a torture prison in Cuba. It's also all these are all weird things to >> Exactly. Exactly.

62:28>> So go ahead, each of you go ahead and tell me um how you see the war, how you see the ceasefire. Do you see how this ending? Take it wherever you'd like.

62:40Well, we have a ceasefire. It's very unstable. We did a program in which we descri we describe the situation as unstable equilibrium. In other words, we reached the sort of stage when um on the surface nothing is happening but below the surface a lot is happening. I mean the the straight of Hormuz remains shut.

63:04The economic pressures around the world are growing and the United States which of course is the attacking party looks stuck. There's reports this morning that the US military have given advice that more air strikes, more missile strikes, more bombing is not going to achieve anything. So that leaves us in a situation where you either negotiate which is impossible.

63:35This go this president does not want to negotiate. the government, the American government does not want to negotiate or they plunge into far more dangerous, far more reckless things like ground operations and when there has to be a worry that that might come. But at the moment there are no negotiations taking place or talk from Donald Trump about negotiations is absolute fiction. All claims by Donald Trump that there are splits within the Iranian leadership are fiction as well. We are at this stalemate situation at the moment, but it's an unstable one.

64:14>> Well, let me just show you uh we're talking about Larry Johnson uh today said this. He's a former CIA analyst who is usually very good on this matter.

64:24Here's what he said about what you just talked about the military advising Trump.

64:30>> Um I I fully expected that it would have restarted today or maybe tomorrow.

64:36But there's been an interesting development um under the general in charge of central command or maybe it's an admiral now. They've got a branch that deals with aviation. So combined forces aviation combatant command. That's an air force general. And then you have a combined forces maritime uh combatant command. So, one controls what the Air Force does, one controls what all the Navy assets do.

65:07Interestingly, there's not a ground force commander because they don't really have ground forces in play.

65:13They both I I understand have told the joint force commander, the head of Sentcom, hey, uh we we should not restart this thing. If we do, it's going to be a real problem for us. Our best option is to get out. get out now.

65:32So the you've got basically the the the leading generals in central command going back up telling the president no we don't think we should continue doing this. Uh they have communicated this to General Kaine the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. It's important. You know, you I think you know from your military career that it's the chain of command that goes in this case sentcom to the president. It does or sentcom secretary of defense to the president. The uh the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff is a military advisor essentially for the president.

66:13But when your military guys are saying no, this is going far enough. We don't need to keep doing this. is going to get us into trouble. Um, if if that holds up, then I'd say we're we're essentially looking at the end of the war.

66:28>> So, um, Alexander, do do you think this is the end of the war?

66:36>> Well, no, >> I think I think >> Okay. U real quick. I think that we're we're uh we're at a waiting game stage.

66:46That's where I think we're at. I I think it's it's very clear that uh that Trump is is hoping that that Iran collapses somehow. Their economy collapses, their leadership collapses, the blockade of the blockade of the blockade somehow causes everything to to crumble. And I think that's what he's uh that he's hoping for. And Iran is is uh is also in a waiting game. They believe that they have the leverage and that uh that if they wait this out long enough, then the pressure is going to mount on Trump and he's going to have to agree to something. I I think that's where we are. I wouldn't be surprised, Jimmy, if

67:24if Trump tries I'm not saying he's going to be allowed to do this, but I would not be surprised if he tries to just drag this on and on and just try to phase out Iran. That would not surprise me at all. You you mean you you mean try to just kind of drag the war on to where uh Iran kind of goes bankrupt in a sense?

67:49>> No, I I think Trump just kind of, you know, he just keeps on extending the ceasefire or says they're going to collapse. Every week it's a different post on True Social and eventually it just kind of gets tuned out.

68:01>> Well, here's the here's what he's here's what he said most recently on an air >> tarmac.

68:06As you're figuring out who is in charge the hardliners or IRGP aligned leaders have greater power in Iran. Can you guys make a deal with >> I'll deal with whoever's running the show.

68:16>> Are we are we communicating?

68:18>> I'll deal with whoever runs the show.

68:20They don't know. They're in They are fighting with each other. There's tremendous infighting. They're probably fighting for leadership. In many cases, I think they're fighting not to be the leader because we knocked out two levels of leaders. But uh I'll deal with whoever we have to. But there's no reason to wait two days, have people traveling for 16, 17 hours. Uh, and we're not doing it that way. We'll do it when they want, they can call me. We have all the cards. We've won everything. We have all the cards.

68:50>> Yes, it is.

68:52>> So, that's Trump saying, "We're not going to negotiate." But isn't that Trump really responding to Iran saying, "We're not going to negotiate." And him saying that we have all the cards really means that Iran has all the cards, right? because Trump has reached the end of his escalatory powers. And if he does, they're going to Iran will wipe out the Gulf States. So, Alex, what do you say?

69:12>> Well, I think that's exactly right. I think I think he's talking not about what he's going to do, but what the, you know, the Iranians the Iranians here have the cards. They are in control of the straight of Hormuz, which is the ace card in this game. Um, it's all very well for, you know, the United States or Trump, for people in the administration to think that they can wait out the Iranians, wait for the splits to appear, wait for all these problems to develop, or perhaps alternatively just try quietly to walk away from this conflict.

69:53But whilst the Iranians retain control of the Strait of Hormuz, whilst they're stopping um export of oil and other products from the Middle East, the problems in the global economy are constantly intensifying and in time they will have a severe impact right across the whole global economy and on the United States. So, he can't just walk away. At least I don't think he can. He might want to, but I don't think that is an option for him.

70:31And you're quite right. It's the Iranians who don't want to negotiate. I mean, he talks about not sending his people to Islamabad because there's no point in doing so. The reason there was no point in sending Wick Golf and Kushner to Islamabad is because the Iranians said, "We're not going to meet them. it's not going to happen. So it was the Iranians who are saying as they have been consistently saying that they don't want to talk except to discuss their terms their proposals for ending this war which are proposals which Donald Trump is not going to accept.

71:12Certainly not now.

71:14And so it does it there is no way out for Trump. He's stuck. And here we see uh the foreign minister uh Aragoti, which it's very funny. It's is interesting to you that they have Italians negotiating for them. Anyway, uh here he is meeting with Putin.

71:36So now Putin's giving him a warm handshake, giving him a nice hello. What do you What do you think? What message does that send to Trump and the rest of the world in your in your opinions?

71:49>> Well, can I mean first of all uh what Putin said is that he praised Iran for its heroic defense of um Iran itself of of of the country of its sovereignty its territory. So the Russians are very clearly and straightforwardly saying that on this issue they back Iran. They consider Iran to be the victim of the war and that it's Iran that deserves political sympathy and support. But what what is not being reported widely in the international media is that Putin didn't meet Arai by himself. his foreign minister Lavrov was also there but there was also someone else in the room and that was Admiral Costakov who is the

72:39head of Russian military intelligence.

72:42So Russian military intelligence has been widely suspected of providing information and assistance to the Iranians with satellites with radar systems with drones and that kind of thing. And well, here we have this important military intelligence official, the head of Russian military intelligence, and he's in the room with Putin, and he's meeting with Arashi. So, at the very least, we should interpret that as a further sign that the Russians are not just giving moral and political backing to the Iranians, but they're giving more backing as well. This is a situation where the United States is not

73:28just taking on Iran, but is taking on Iran with Russia behind it >> and China.

73:37>> I was going to ask you, isn't China also I mean since China and Russia are now handinand because of our idiocy in Ukraine, isn't China also on board?

73:49>> Yeah. Yeah. where uh yeah where uh where Russia is, you can you can bet that China is also there. Absolutely.

73:56Absolutely. So I mean you know the the Trump walking away from this would have been possible actually if he didn't put his blockade in Hormoose. And you think about it, if you go back two weeks ago, there was the there was the article from Politico which talked about how Fox News is Jack Keane, the that that general commentator was pushing the idea about a blockade on Hormuse and that would give Trump the leverage that he would need in order to to get the deal that uh that he wanted.

74:32And and so once again, it looks like uh the Trump White House decided to to go forward with the with the naval blockade of uh of Iran. And uh and until they they remove that blockade, then nothing really happens. If they remove that blockade, ships are going through Hormus. They have to pay the toll in Chinese yuan. And those ships are not going to be Chinese um not going to be United States or Israeli ships, but every other ship will pretty much be able to to pass through Hormus.

75:06>> And and so does everybody else outside of the United States or wherever uh you know in Greece and the UK, do they see this as a complete blunder by Donald Trump and that he was led by the nose by Benjamin Netanyahu into this? That is the overwhelming view in London. Every part of the British political um class um thinks it it's all across the media here. It's the thing that people are talking about to each other when they discuss the war. army people who are not members of the political class and elite that this was a catastrophic mistake that Trump was talked into this by Netanyahu that he didn't consult widely

75:51that he didn't discuss it with the Europeans though the Europeans could have actually warned him in advance I mean all the indications that the war was going to happen were out there but they didn't but anyway the point is Trump blundered into this he made assumptions based on what Netanyahu told him that this was going to be a walkover that Iran would collapse like a house of cards. He didn't expect the blockade of the straight of Hormuse. He didn't understand the full implications of this and now he's stuck.

76:24And so do you think that Trump is actually compromised by Israel in some way? That either they have blackmail on him or his kids or his wife or somehow they got him because it doesn't make any sense what he's doing, especially him attacking Iran when his whole first term was about non-interventionism. That's how he got elected and that's how he ran. He put Tulsi Gabbard and JD Vance in his cabinet which were anti-interventionists. He spoke about it how uh the biggest blunders was our Middle East wars and then he goes and does it and Marco Rubio let the cat out of the bag when he said that oh we had

77:01to do it because Israel was going to attack them and we were afraid they were going to attack us back. So do is the sentiment uh where you are that yes Donald Trump is compromised or what do you think? Many people think this, many people talk about this in London. Again, it's a wide widely discussed topic. Um there is very little evidence behind it in the sense that you know we don't have any concrete information. There's no photos that have appeared or documents that have appeared which directly prove that Trump is being blackmailed or uh manipulated in that kind of way. What I would say myself is that I think that

77:43there was there may be some element of this. I mean I think it's quite possible that there is Trump has had a long complicated career. It's possible something like that happened. I am guessing that if people have pressure points to put on him, it is more likely to be money than anything else with Donald Trump. In other words, he's been bankrupt several times. He's had to raise loans in all sorts of ways. It may be that he um has borrowed money in the past from various people and that they're sort of calling in, if you like, the the the the moral checks from that, if if if you want to say it that way.

78:25But I think there's something else at play which should never be overlooked, and that is Trump's sheer vanity and grandiosity.

78:36Here comes Netanyahu. He tells him, "Look, let's attack Iran now. It's going to be easy. We've already done all the hard work. We've uh um already knocked them around many, many times. Syria's gone. Lebanon, Esbolar is a shadow of what it was. So join us. Help us defeat the Iranians now. And then you will be the great president, the famous president, the president who finally defeated the Iranians, who avenged the hostages that were taken in the embassy in 1979, who ended the nuclear enrichment and all the nuclear bomb and all that talk. And I think Trump finds that kind of talk irresistible. And I

79:25suspect that that played a very very big role in what happened.

79:29>> Yeah. It in in a sense, you know, he would get his, you know, he would get his head on Mount Rushmore in a sense.

79:36This would be the thing that all the Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I Go ahead.

79:41>> No, I I also think there's an element with this Trump White House. I don't know if you guys sense it, but this this uh second term of Trump's is is very profit driven. It seems like like his first term, you didn't see all of the the the the trading and all these things that were going on during his first term. Of course, you can make the argument that he was uh completely occupied with the whole Russia gate stuff, but I just get the sense that in this term, the the Trump team and and those around Trump are are focused on on just making big bucks. That's just the sense that I get of it. And a lot of the decisions that

80:21they make, they treat it like a real estate deal. They treat it like some sort of business deal. Every decision they're making is some sort of business deal, some sort of real estate deal.

80:30There's some sort of profit motive behind it. And uh and I think this is really really screwing things up because you can't engage diplomacy and foreign policy as if it's uh as if it's a a real estate transaction. But but there's a lot of trading and and and profit uh that that that is driving this uh this second term of of Trump's and he he he seems to like it. I think Trump actually en enjoys this aspect of uh of his presidency.

81:03>> Uh it's I I'm 100% with you on there.

81:06That's exact, you know, that's what really gets him going is when he can make money and seem like a business genius. And you know, I mean, Jared Kushner has no official position in the United States government. And one of the reasons was was because uh you know, everybody was making a stink about how he made billions of dollars setting up deals with the Saudis. And uh so Trump was like, "Yeah, okay. We're not going to put And then there there he is, him and his real estate partner." And of course, they're acting as ex as agents of Israel. They're they're not acting in the interest of the United States

81:36because if they were, they would have got a peace deal, but they're acting in in the interests of Israel. Um that that's pretty is that clear to you? It's clear to me.

81:46>> Yeah. I mean, one of the big questions that I have with with his uh his negotiating team, his envoys is is who are these guys? I mean, you know, I I I could understand Witco, I guess, during the whole Ukraine thing. Okay, I'm appointing a special envoy. It's going to be Steve Witoff. I trust him. He's my buddy, my real estate buddy, whatever.

82:03Okay. Um I I got past that.

82:07Understood. But then Kushner joined the the Ukraine negotiating team just out of the blue. He just showed up and and now he's the lead in he was the lead negotiator in Gaza. He's also been he's also now the lead negotiator for for Iran and and he has no position. And where is the Secretary of State in all of this? He's hanging out with Trump at at an MMA event and he's watching mixed martial arts and he's just hanging out.

82:31He's he doesn't deal with with Iran. He doesn't deal with with Ukraine. What is he doing? No one knows what what what Rubio is is there for. He's the secretary of state and he's also the NSA guy. So Rubio holds two big positions.

82:45People forget that. Um since uh Mike Waltz was was put as ambassador of uh of the US of the US to the United Nations because he was involved with with the whole spying with Netanyahu and all of that stuff. Rubio took over his position and they haven't found a replacement at all.

83:02>> Uh I actually did forget about that.

83:03Thanks for reminding me about that. I thought Rubio was just a a payback to Mariam Adlesen. Uh that that's why he got appointed. That's what that was what I always thought. And that, you know, he always wanted Cuba and now they're getting it. They're doing Cuba. They're blockading it and, you know, doing collective punishment on them for absolutely nothing. And nobody seems to care except Russia. Russia's helping them. They send oil. And you know, let's let me let me take it back more to Israel. And you know before October 7th I had covered Israel and the Palestinian conflict without agra really

83:37understanding it until October 7th and uh the greater Israel project are people aware of it now in Greece and in the UK of what the great were they always aware of it I was not it's new to me and it's obvious that's what this is about there uh go ahead tell what what are the people are people aware of it were they aware of it do you think it's important I I I'll let Alex go.

84:03>> Yeah, just for Cypress. For Cypress and and for Greece and I would say more immediate uh Cyprus, um people are roughly aware of it. They don't talk about it much. Um before uh October 7th, before everything happened, uh no one was was aware of it. No one was talking about it. Uh now you do hear some people talk about it but um there's I would say my sense of things Jimmy is that there's not much concern at least when when Cypress is >> is considered in all of this or the region in general. Um there's discussion but there's no uh alarm I would say and I think a lot of that has to do with uh with the way the the geopolitics has

84:50been structured in the Mediterranean in that you are seeing a a type of of of a threecountry alliance that is formed between um Greece uh Cyprus and Israel and that has to do with energy with gas and this alliance is thought by many to to be the the force that will be able to to to block Turkeykey's ambitions in the region. So there is that dynamic that uh that has played out over the years and a lot of it is about uh a gas corridor that will that will go from from Israel through Cyprus onto Greece.

85:32>> And does that that Wow, I didn't even think about that. Did that has to do with the the didn't they recently discover like $500 billion worth of uh natural gas deposits?

85:41>> Yeah. Like 20 25 years ago actually they they discovered a lot of gas in the entire Mediterranean region. the the the difficult part about the region is is that it's disputed and specifically Cyprus is disputed between the Republic of Cypress, the internationally recognized Cypress and then you have the the Turkish occupied north and Turkey which also says well this is not uh Cypress is is gas and energy. this belongs to to all of the criates and and Turkey also plays a role in this energy corridor and in this energy security.

86:16So so so it's a very complicated situation with with the gas but the thinking is that you you take what all all the gas and you move it through the Mediterranean onto Greece and onwards.

86:31>> So uh Alex, what is the situation with the Greater Israel project in the UK?

86:35What what same same question to you?

86:38>> Yes. I think I think it's very similar in terms of awareness to what you have in Greece and Cyprus in the sense that you know a few years ago people just did not know about it here. Um more and more people do know about it now. more very many people are interested in this conflict and are becoming very interested in the causes of it and unlike in Cyprus where we don't because we are further away and we don't have the same kind of economic and geopolitical concerns the people in Cyprus do here amongst a a a significant section of British society there is a a great revulsion uh and great anger about

87:28what has happened in Gaza and it has become an important political issue and one which is shaping and reshaping the political landscape. It must be said that this is coming up against an enormous amount of official resistance.

87:47I I if you are careless in what you say, you can be prosecuted. You can have uh you can have all kinds of uh repercussions fall upon you. But as often is the case, the more the authorities try to do that, the more they try to sort of protect the Israeli position, if you like, in some ways, the the bigger the backlash becomes. And it becomes also something which people are starting to challenge and challenge successfully in the courts. So Greater Israel project yes people are now have heard of it and they're now talking about it and they're angry about it and they oppose it and this is part as I

88:37said of a larger sea change that is taking place in Britain.

88:42Um, I think, you know, they say Israel was invented to for a safe haven for Jews. I think it is the it's proven to be the thing that makes Jews the most unsafe around the world. For sure. For sure. Certainly this iteration of Israel and the Israel Project and Benjamin Netanyahu and his right-wing government.

89:03It is uh, you know, they call it anti-semitism, but I just call it a natural reaction to what Israel is doing. Uh, go. You want to Many many people in Britain including to my absolute knowledge amongst the Jewish community here are making precisely that point the same point that you have made that far from Israel acting as a safe haven for Jews. It's putting Jewish people in Israel itself in danger because this is a society now that is trapped in a constant cycle of war and it is creating problems for Jewish communities even in societies like the British where I mean is anti-semitism has not been a problem in Britain for a

89:52very very long time now suddenly this criticism it's completely wrong to call it anti-semitic by the way. I mean I think this is I mean this isn't just far-fetched. It's menacious to say it in the way that it is being said but it it undoubtedly many people who are Jewish feel very uncomfortable in this situation and it's not difficult to understand why.

90:18>> So let me just talk about uh Lebanon quickly. Uh is that all right with you?

90:24>> Yeah.

90:24>> Okay. Yeah.

90:25>> So, uh, despite the ceasefire, the Israeli army published footage.

90:32They just, it's just amazing that they're their own worst PR people. Uh, the the Israeli army published footage showing the demolition of large numbers of houses and villages in southern Lebanon. And here, I'll show it to you.

90:46That that's what they're doing to countryside houses in Lebanon.

90:51It seems So, this is supposedly during a cease.

91:00Look at this. It's this is it's seems so maniacal. It's like hard to even wrap your head about it. And here um this is USI Israel Iran ceasefire live upd um so let me just what do you make of uh the Lebanon situation do you and how do you where do you see it going? Well, in a kind of a sense, in order to understand this entire crisis, you have to go back to Lebanon because this the origins of this crisis ultimately were in wars that Israel fought on the territory of Lebanon from the late 1970s all the way to the 1980s when they fought the Palestinian the PLO there and they occupied large areas of

91:54southern Lebanon and that provers the emergence of Hezbollah and of a local Shia resistance militia which basically drove them out. And this has been a major concern, a major saw for Israel, one that they always feel they need to um resolve because in 2006 led basically defeated them in pitch battles. So the assumption is Hezbollah managed to do that because it's backed by Iran, which is partly true. But in order to really succeed, in order to be able to say that you've achieved your objectives, it's not enough to defeat Iran. You have to break Hezbollah as well. In fact, that's even more important because Hezbollah is right

92:50there on Israel's northern border. And for the Israelis to just give up and stop attacking Hezbollah given their present, you know, state of mind, I would say is all but impossible. So yes, they will go through the motions of declaring ceasefires, but they will immediately act to undermine those ceasefires. And um partly that is because they want to defeat Hezbollah, but also they also are using breaches of ceasefires in Lebanon in order to call into question the larger ceasefire between the United States and Iran, which Israel is also unhappy about. it wants to under undermine that too because they still want ultimately to

93:38defeat Iran and to overthrow the government there. Um, however difficult that may seem to be.

93:47>> And do do you see it this going on for a few more years? I I do. that Israel and I mean it was it certainly is a different uh layer that Iran adds to this because they have been adamant about including Lebanon in on the ceasefire. Um so u so go ahead. Uh >> well this has been going on since the late 1970s.

94:13There is absolutely no reason to think it is going to end anytime soon. I mean, there's been conflicts between Israel and Hezbollah and Israel and other militias that existed in Lebanon, resistance militias that existed in Lebanon for decades, long before Iran and Israel came into conflict with each other. And um that there is no reason to think that's going to end. I don't myself believe that Israel can achieve its objectives in Lebanon. I would have thought that if they couldn't achieve them over 30 years, they're not going to achieve them now. So given that Israel cannot stop, there's every reason to

94:57think this is going to go on for an extremely long time. Even if something can be patched up between Iran and the United States, the conflict in Lebanon is going to continue.

95:12But but it exposes I think Jimmy brings up a good point in that it exposes how how weak Trump is next to uh to Israel, next to Netanyahu in that this is a key condition for Iran if if you want to get to some sort of a peace or some sort of a deal. I mean, Lebanon is is top on the list for Iran as they've been giving out their their terms.

95:37And and even Trump uh a week or two ago, he posted on Truth Social, there's a ceasefire. I told them to stop. They're going to stop. So Trump put himself in the position of of he's the one that's that is actually running the show. He's the one that can tell Israel what to do.

95:54And if he tells Israel to stop, they're going to stop.

95:58and and that hasn't beared out. And so as Iran keeps keeps Lebanon as a as a top item for any kind of negotiated settlement and Israel continues to to to go after uh Lebanon, continues the the war with Hezbollah in Lebanon and and and blows up the the settlements like what you showed us, Jimmy. It it shows that that Trump really isn't calling any shots. I mean, if if Trump really could, if he really was that powerful to tell Israel to stop, then Israel would listen to him and they would stop.

96:35Trump would say, "I need a deal. We got to get a deal with Iran. You guys need to stop." And they would stop, but they're not. So, so it really does expose the the weakness of Trump's position.

96:46Well, you know, uh we we're aware of at this show that if the wars do stop, uh you know, I think Israel has attacked eight countries now in the last year.

96:56It's kind of crazy. Uh if the wars I mean, they've also publicly um talked about and expressed their desire to go into Turkey, to go into Saudi Arabia.

97:07It's just it's the Greater Israel project. But um if the wars do stop then Benjamin Netanyahu goes on trial and he goes to prison. That's the one the one good thing about Israel is that they do put their leaders in prison. The one bad thing is that it's going to keep this war going on because Benjamin Netanya doesn't want to go to prison. Right. And people are are people aware of that in >> trying to get him pardoned, isn't he?

97:30Alexander no trying to get pardoned.

97:33>> He is absolutely absolutely in Britain people are aware of it. I mean I again this isn't perhaps a very widely known thing but it is certainly a topic that is discussed in the media. Um the the media in Britain is very divided. You do still have very strong supporters of Israel in parts of the British media but the media that leans more towards the center left like the Guardian for example has become very very critical and very critical of Netanyahu and they are reporting this very thing.

98:06Yeah, that that's the to me that's the big sticker. Um here's one more um thing I wanted to talk to you about. Uh is Israeli Daily uh Herets reports that 10 Israeli soldiers have died by suicide since beginning of the year, including eight cases in the current month alone.

98:26Uh Haret's investigation published on Sunday revealed a sharp rise in suicides within Israeli military and security forces with at least 10 active duty soldiers taking their lives since the start of 26, including six this month.

98:40Well, that was eight before. Uh in April, a eight soldiers and police personnel and active service died by suicide along three reserveists who had participated in the Gaza genocide and two police officers, marking a significant increase. The trend continues a broader escalation since October 723 when the Israeli regime began its genocidal assault in Gaza with seven active duty suicides in late 23, 21 and 24, 22 and 25 and the highest figure in 15 years. Additional cases include at least 15 former soldiers who died by suicide after discharge by the end of 25 with at least more cases since with at least four case more cases since

99:21and three in this past month. The report leaks the surge to mounting psychological strain from prolonged genocide. Well, boy, that genocide, it is tough on the brain, isn't it? It'll that's a stressor. That's worse than uh rush hour traffic, what I hear. Uh reduce support systems and systemic failures. Um the number of soldiers who suffer from PTSD has increased by 40% since 23. In 2024 and 25, at least 75% of all suicides among the Israelis were soldiers returning from Gaza genocide.

99:55According to the Times of Israel, since the start of Gaza genocide, the Israeli regime has killed at least 72,000 Palestinians and wounded more than 172,000 others, most of them women and children. And here's just a few. Um, so that's what they here's from Israel. Not enough, says Sheree Osman. You lose your soul when you spend your life shooting children in the head, dismembering babies, repeatedly raping detainees, including children until they die, burning people alive, driving marava tanks over living handcuffed and ankle cuffed people, and burying children alive. So, um, it goes on. What, uh, I

100:35don't even know what my question would be to you, but do you think that the Israeli military is going to collapse or what? What? What? I mean, doing a genocide really, I know I joke about it, but it it really does have to take a psychological toll on you.

100:48>> It takes an enormous psychological toll.

100:50And there's been a lot of reports about this, apparently in the Israeli media itself, that the the military in Israel is becoming increasingly demoralized.

101:01And it's not just that they're having to do these these terrible things, which does take a severe toll. I mean we must remember a lot of soldiers are men men and women of conscience. So I mean this this does have an effect but apparently the fact that this is a war in which they're trapped into a war without end it is exhausting. It is deeply demoralizing.

101:27There is no real sign of any final victory of any return to normality.

101:34And gradually this is creating growing stress within the Israeli military. I think we're a very long way from the point where it just collapses. I don't expect that to happen and certainly not anytime soon. But that doesn't change the fact that this is having an effect not just I suspect on the military but on Israeli society more widely. And of course in Israel, the military plays a very large role in society.

102:05>> I mean, everybody in Israel has to serve at one point or another in the IDF, right?

102:11>> Yeah. Absolutely.

102:13>> So whenever So I've seen videos of Israeli tourists in Vietnam. I don't know if you've saw seen th those and people, you know, verbally attacking them and kicking them out of restaurants. And at first I was like, well, you can't, you know, not all Israelis, but at the same time, no, all Israelis do event serve in the IDF, so it kind of is justified in a sense, right?

102:38>> All right. Well, uh, anything I I didn't get to talk to you about Ukraine. You know, looks like Do you think that the United States will pull out of NATO? What the hell's going on with Europe? Why do they want to keep this Ukraine war going? I just don't understand it. Do you understand it?

102:53Nobody can explain it to me why Europe is so gung-ho on having a war with Russia.

102:59>> It it is becoming very obsessive and the degree of obsession cannot be understated.

103:06But the thing to understand about the Ukraine war is that at a time of growing political and economic and social crisis in Europe, at a time when the political order in Europe in is fracturing, the the war in Ukraine is the one thing that every part of the political elite can agree on and that gives them coherence and a certain degree of internal unity. And of course, it is also the thing that they can use in order to justify imposing more controls on people, more surveillance of people, more um you know regulation of what appears and what is written. And to the extent that people accept some of this

103:58narrative, it also acts as a unify. It's the one point of contact if you like that's left between the the elite and the larger the larger population of Europe. So it has a functional purpose, a very bad functional purpose, but you can understand why it is there.

104:22>> For for for the globalist elite, uh Jimmy, Ukraine is uh or actually war with Russia. I would I would actually say it's war with Russia.

104:30>> Yeah.

104:30>> Is the next big uh grift. It's the next big money maker.

104:34>> We've gone through through the climate stuff. We've gone through COVID. Uh we've we've gone through through project Ukraine, right? We just gave the last 90 billion, the last big 90 billion payday.

104:48So that's been all wrapped up. So now we have to move on to to war with Russia.

104:52Europe has to go to war with Russia.

104:54NATO has to go to war with Russia. And they need to sign the military contracts and uh and they need to to up their budget to NATO to 5%. and everyone is going to make a ton of money off of this because this thing can last for three, four, five, 10 years. So, so, so this is the the the next big money maker for them and it's going to be a big one.

105:18>> So, so that's what So that's why I So again, so there is no rational I mean that's rational I guess, but there is no like interest for the people or this isn't going to actually benefit anybody in Europe. This is just for the the the WF globalists to put the the money in their pockets. As Julian Assange taught us, these wars aren't meant to be won.

105:40They're meant to be ongoing. So they can transfer money from the treasuries of different countries into their p. Right.

105:46That's what So that's what it's about.

105:47>> It's hurting the people. It's hurting all of us in Europe.

105:50>> Yes. Yes.

105:51>> When do the people rise up?

105:54>> Not Not for a while. Not for a I don't I don't get a sense of of people rising up here. I don't know Alexander what you think in >> I don't see anyone thinking about rising up yet.

106:07>> Whereas people have become very very um conscious of many of the realities about the situation in the Middle East and particularly in Gaza. The same is not true about Ukraine. The vast majority of people here in Britain, I I mean they they may not have the same obsessive passion about it as the elites do, but they basically accept the underlying narrative that this is a um you know a valiant country that was attacked by the aggressive Russian bear and that if when if the bear finishes with Ukraine, well, it will come after us. So we must spend lots of money and give up lots of our freedoms because um if we don't then

106:55they will they will come here and that will not be good for us. So a lot a lot of people accept that. They don't really think it through. But bear in mind that there is no counternarrative about it here in Britain and in the rest of Europe. Europe does not have the kind of independent alternative media that you find in the United States. I mean there's no there's no people like that who come out every day and talk about these sort of things and who h have uh audiences that runs into tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands or even millions. You don't have political parties which are seen as acceptable

107:43which argue against this certainly not in Britain to the extent that that exists at all. Germany a little bit, France perhaps a little less, but there isn't really a counternarrative here. And because of that, expecting people to protest about Ukraine, come out and oppose it. Well, I just don't see it happen.

108:08>> They'll protest when the austerity comes.

108:11>> Yes. But the governments in Europe will never admit that the austerity is because of all the money they flushed down the the Ukraine toilet. They'll never make that connection.

108:23>> But the austerity is coming and it will come to to just about every country in Europe. We already see it in Finland.

108:31>> Finland the they approve the 90 billion to Zilinski and the very next day they announce uh budget reform and austerity.

108:40the very next day.

108:42>> Yeah. Wow.

108:43>> So, so I mean it's it's coming, but the the government will never admit, well, the reason that you're going through this is because we gave all our money to Zilinsky, just like they never admit the reason you your your prices in electricity are through the roof in Europe is because someone decided to blow up the Nordstream pipeline.

109:00>> They don't they really don't put that together.

109:02>> No, it's it's this has been one of the most astonishing things. People just do not make the link. uh you read articles you know you know by intelligent well-informed people and they tell you about the very very high gas prices in Britain the four times higher than in the United States and they never ask why did prices become so much higher after 2022 what happened in 2022 that led to the prices leaping up in the way that they did it it's one of the greatest achievements that I've ever seen in politics that you know an entire continent has been lulled to sleep over the linkages but are making it poor

109:48>> that I you know again uh I always looked at Americans as the dummies and Europeans as the smart people who knew what was go it's just it seems like it's the opposite now that the that well is it be so you're talking about you don't have the independent media apparatus in Europe as we you mean like do we have the Tucker Carlson's here and the Glen Greenwalds and the Gray Zones and and things like that.

110:12>> Jimmy Dors >> is that as well. Okay, I don't want to blow my own horn too hard, but something like that. So, so that's what you're saying that that is it's kind of >> that's exactly what I'm saying. In Britain, we don't have anything like that. I mean, there there is nothing comparable to this. There is to a small extent in Germany because Germany has always had a sort of subculture of um protest and which goes back quite a long way basically to the 60s. Um a little bit of that in France but it doesn't have the kind of traction. It doesn't command the attention that you you find from that kind of media in

110:56the United States. And you you mustn't overestimate my sophistication and our intelligence here in Europe. Um we are we may we are not that much brighter or at least we're nowhere near as bright as some people believe.

111:12>> No, in Europe they watch I was out to dinner Jimmy and and I said I'm going to be on on the Jimmy Door show later on this evening >> and the people I was having dinner with said yeah I watch Jimmy Door. I mean >> they they watch they watch your show.

111:26They watch the people in the United States in order to figure out what's happening.

111:30>> Yes.

111:31>> Here.

111:32>> Yeah.

111:32>> Well, you you know I I do get that sense when I tour. I was just in the UK and Ireland and Scotland and before that uh places like Sweden and the and you know the people just come out in droves and I'm just shocked. I really am. And they don't and you know they talk about the same media problems there that we have here with people like Bezos owning the and you know the concentration of power in the media and yeah I was just in Australia the same thing almost worse.

112:01Um it's uh it's it's shocking to me. Uh I really did think well you you know your cuz your societies are it's there certainly they get it more. They take care of the people more. You have healthcare. We still can't get healthare. you get sick in the United States, you go bankrupt if you get cancer. People have, you know, they they Trump just did a a polit a PR stunt where he had a Door Dash driver. I don't know if you have that, but uh so that to bring him McDonald's and it was a it was a grandmother and it says Door Dash grandma and he was there to do a PR stunt about how he cut the the taxes on her tips and but and there

112:40there was a gaggle of reporters there and not one of them said, "Don't you think this shows how we have a failed society that a grandmother has to go work a minimum wage job to deliver food so she can pay for the cancer treatment for her husband instead of and that never got none of those questions came up because of course it's the legacy corporate media and it wasn't people like me standing there but so that's I mean you don't have that you know you people get sick they still generally get taken care of people still don't go bankrupt if they get sick in your societies I mean that's a big that's a

113:11big big thing that I think we're never going to get here in the United States right >> one effect of which however is that it does help to keep political passions down. I mean, first of all, I would say that's an entirely good thing that we have all of these things. I mean, I am a strong supporter of them, but one of the effects of them is that they are stabilizers which keep the overall political system stable and um probably take away some of the edge of the protest that you might otherwise see. The other thing to remember about all of these great social achievements is that they are today they

113:51are legacy achievements. They are the achievements of um social movements that became very powerful in Europe in the late 19th and in the first half of the 20th century. The the social welfare models that Europe has today are very much a product of that era. So we haven't really built on them. We haven't developed them. We haven't expanded in the ideas that you could say were foundational to those models. We haven't expanded them to include um if you like political democracy, even economic democracy in the same way that we might once have done and which people once aspired to.

114:48Uh everybody still uh mums the word about COVID. Nobody and nobody's there's no people nobody nobody's here is pissed off about >> you know this is this is there is immeasurably more discussion about that question COVID in the United States than there is in Britain in in Britain um there's been no rethinking of it to any serious extent at all.

115:14>> People don't even talk about it here. I mean, they'll mention it in passing >> and and you get the sense that they understood what what was going on. I mean, you get that sense in conversation, >> but uh it never lingers on the topic at all. They just kind of move on from it.

115:31>> Um I mean, I saw a poll the other day uh that uh over 50% of Americans now think the COVID vaccine caused mass deaths.

115:41>> So, yeah. And but you'll never hear that on the legacy media, but you will hear that in a poll, right? So, >> but but I've never seen that in a poll here in anywhere in Europe. And I'm confident that if there were such a poll, I would know about it. Just saying.

115:57>> I mean, people talk about it in conversation, but the media uh the publications will never put out a poll about it. The media will never the media never discusses it at all anymore.

116:10>> Yeah.

116:10>> Yeah. No, I mean they they they never really discussed it to begin with. They just uh repeated propaganda. There was never real discussions. They never thought brought on people who could debunk what they were saying. Just like with Russia Gate, you know, in the United States as as soon as Russia Gate happened, they people like Glenn Greenwald were persona nongrada on uh the shows that they were you always on.

116:33And uh so anyway, all right. Well, listen, you I I I should let you go because you've been very generous with your time. Uh, everybody should check out the Duran. We love the Duran and I really appreciate you making time for us here. It's always a pleasure and fun to talk to both of you and hopefully I can uh, you know, I'd love to meet you both in person next time I'm over there. Uh, I think I might be in the Mediterranean later this year and I'll certainly be back in the UK for sure.

116:59>> Well, you're you're always welcome here, Jimmy. You're always welcome here.

117:02>> I appreciate that. I really do appreciate it. Uh, thank you. Thank you both very much. It's always enlightening. And as Judge Npalitano says, you've always been very gener generous with your time and accommodating my schedule. So I really appreciate you both. Very fine. All right, we'll see you next time, my friends.

117:19>> Thank you. Thank you, Jimmy. Take care.

117:21>> Over to St.

117:22>> All right. Thank you, Jimmy. All right, here we go, ladies and gentlemen. Uh, let's go with this. If they get the authorization for the ball, B A L room, they should definitely include a statue of Ball. You see music?

117:39Okay. Yes to Rumble. Good to know. I never look a grape tomatoes the same way ever again. Giraffe Rider. We're going to be moving over to Rumble. Here we go.

117:48I'm going to read a few more. Let me put that in. Come on. Why aren't you acknowledging my presence here?

117:56Oh, why won't it let me? There we go.

117:58Did it. All right. There's the link, folks. I'm >> Do I sound okay?

118:02>> You do sound okay, Mr. Kirk.

118:03>> I'm sorry. I don't know if my voice is okay. I was up all night praying for President Trump to make it.

118:08>> I know. I know your your voice does sound okay after all those prayers.

118:12>> I was just up all night praying that Senator Graham tackles the >> Show that big screen again, Jimmy. Will you?

118:20>> He was in the Air Force. That's why he's got the reflexes.

118:22>> All right, you can show Jimmy our favorite photo of the week.

118:26>> Who's in the military? You know that's an Air Force man when you see one, right?

118:31>> Well, he's just doing his morning yoga.

118:33Normally he uses a mat, but Matt was sick today, so he decided to use >> What was wrong with Matt? I wonder.

118:42>> Yeah. I wonder what's wrong.

118:43>> He had a grumbly tum tum.

118:47>> I don't know.

118:50He had the scoots.

118:51>> He He had the what?

118:54>> The scoots.

118:54>> The scoots.

118:56>> You might have had a milk product he can't have. I don't know. Nothing to do with me.

119:02>> Okay. All right. Oh, should we go to Rumble?

119:04>> We can go to Rumble.

119:04>> All right. We got to go to Rumble. Let's go to Rumble and be We'll see you over there in a couple minutes.