0:01Is that or is that just his ego where he wants to have a final thing like you he wants to build another monument that's essentially the Trump monument in um on the where in DC and is this just his ego talking or is he this brilliant and that goes back to kind of this time traveling there's that theory of that book that came out like in 1904 that bear it's like the the the times of bear and Trump have you seen this >> no >> wait okay this is look up like the theory behind [laughter] Baron Trump and time traveling and there's this there's this book from like 1904 before Trump I think Nicola Tesla's involved in some
0:40way.
0:40>> Oh well Tesla he his apartment when it was raided after his death it was Donald Trump's uncle.
0:47>> Yeah. So it was all Yeah.
0:50>> All right. Whoa. This is real. You're not making this up. The theory that Baron Trump is a time traveler stems from uncanny similarities between Donald Trump's youngest son and the protagonist of 19th century novels by Ingresol Lockwood. The theory suggests that Baron Trump, a character who travels throughout time, guided by a mentor named Dawn, PREDICTS [laughter] MODERN POLITICAL EVENTS WITH SOME speculating the Trump family possesses time travel technology. The Lockwood novels written in 1890s, Baron Trump's marvelous underground journey, and the travels and adventures of little Baron.
1:25>> Those are [laughter] those are the things that I'm like I'm like, dude, >> wait, wait, wait. Feature a young rich boy named Baron who lives in Castle Trump. You can't make this up.
1:34>> I'm like, and then you think about Baron and it's and you you think of all the theories with Baron.
1:40>> Oh yeah, he's seeing the fractals, bro.
1:42And then it's and then is Baron the next one up per se? And then also you think about his other sons that have kind of been forgotten. Don Jr. and um Eric Trump. And I mean think about Tiffany Trump. She's the most forgotten one.
1:57>> Yeah. Poor kid.
1:57>> Yeah. Yeah. But she it may be better that way because Don Jr. can't walk around New York City.
2:03>> No.
2:05>> Nope.
2:06>> But Tiffany Trump, if people pointed by I mean Kai Trump, >> that's a granddaughter. granddaughter.
2:12She goes to It was a bad timing. She goes to Airwan with her secret service.
2:16Do you know where Airwan Airwan is?
2:18>> Awan.
2:18>> Oh, it's a LA.
2:20>> Air Force One.
2:21>> No. No. Airwan is this, it's a Instagram it place to go in LA. That is a grocery store. Think of Whole Foods times 100.
2:31And it's very expensive. Haley Bieber has a smoothie there. It's good.
2:36>> But anyways, I'm strawberry.
2:39>> I'm a bodega kind of guy. Yes. $21 for a strawberry glaze. [laughter] >> $21. Go yourself.
2:46>> Dude, I can't believe you don't know.
2:49>> So, here this is where I have like the NPC brain where I know all about all these like random things that why you're here.
2:55>> Yeah. But exactly.
2:58She goes to air. She does. She She wants to be a YouTuber. She does a YouTube and she's like, I took my And it's a very it's a thing if you're not from LA.
3:06influencers go out there and they go, "Oh, I go went to Air1 for the first time."
3:10She goes with the Secret Service and it was in the midst of it was in the midst of something.
3:17>> Can we Google that? Maybe it was when we were >> It was back in Iran.
3:21>> It was something like that. And people were making fun of her like, "How dare you do this? People are starving. Your your grandfather and then but she's just doing this stupid video, >> right?
3:31>> And why it struck a nerve. Here we go."
3:33But she's this 18-year-old girl who isn't even in college yet. Oh, no. She She may be at my She's about to be.
3:39Yeah. Yeah. What was the headline?
3:41Sorry. Kai Trump's cringey Arowan gross.
3:44That's how they spell it.
3:45>> K AI like Kai. Oh, wait. Awan. Sorry.
3:48Yeah.
3:48>> Yeah. What in the name of medieval times is that? Arowan grocery store and why it struck a nerve. All right, let's go down. So, this is from March 11th. Kai Trump, the president's 18-year-old influencer granddaughter, went to a grocery store and a lot of people aren't happy about it. That's cuz she didn't go to just any grocery store.
4:04She went to Arowan, a trendy market in Los Angeles, notorious for wacky wellness offerings and exorbitant prices. In a YouTube video titled, I bought I brought my [laughter] secret.
4:14That was what >> I brought my secret service to Arowan posted March 9th, she documented her experience where she bought a smoothie for $20 each and her bill came out to $233. I'm about to go like >> she didn't help.
4:30>> Let me let me get this line out.
4:33I'm about to go like bankrupt with this stuff. She said in the video, I'm going to need to file for bankruptcy.
4:39>> No, I feel like you're going to be all right.
4:41>> Her grandfather does know a lot about bankruptcy. [laughter] >> It's I like this line. The French revolted for so much less. Straight up Hunger Games at this point. Lmo, let them eat. Yeah, let them eat cake was what came to mind. Now, she's an 18-year-old kid, obviously. Like I was when I was 18, so >> Exactly.
4:58But >> now it wasn't like she went to Arowan and someone stalked her. She posted it herself.
5:05>> So that's where I kind of get both sides where it's like why are you attacking 18-year-old girl but also you're posting it >> public figure too.
5:11>> Public figure. And if if you want to be a YouTuber >> now, >> but yeah, she went to air. Uh she was going to go into bankruptcy over it.
5:18There's a lot of quote tweets about it.
5:20It was March 8th. So I think that's around when Trump >> Well, Iran was February 20 the night of February 27th into 28th.
5:28>> So there we go. So it was a week into it and everybody So that's what I think a lot of people >> Yeah. It's it's like this is my thing when you looked at the Biden administration for four years. It was like a giant troll job, right? You had a president who like the lights weren't even on. Forget whether or not he was home. A bunch of unelected people running the country. You had luggage stealing transgenders running your nuclear department. I mean, it was like this >> greatest story of all time. I didn't realize people I I think people do that a lot. That's a thing.
5:58>> What? The stealing luggage?
5:59>> Yeah. People just show up and steal.
6:00>> It's like a klepto thing.
6:01>> I think No, I think people just do it because they know that like it's almost like uh Storage Wars but for free [laughter] because you're buying you're just you're just taking a bag and then you're like, "Oh, >> well now Palunteer is taking over the airport so maybe they'll >> Yeah. So you'll you'll steal it and then they'll kill you. They'll they'll just shoot shoot you dead or if you had like you shared like the wrong Benjamin Netanyahu meme. You also So it's either or. Yeah. You're done.
6:24>> You're done. But like optically it was top to bottom it was like embarrassing and you're like okay it can't get worse than this. Right.
6:33>> The Trump administration it's an entire it's hard to explain but it's like a different language of it but the optics everywhere are awful. Like they like I >> you have a lady with a fake face running the Homeland Security Department and spending and spending millions of dollars while her husband's wearing fake titties out there. In their defense, they could have never known about the husband.
6:55>> You got like Cash Patel who's one of the dumbest human beings and can't even I mean he's looking at two places at the at the same time at all times, but never the investigation.
7:04>> You got like top to bottom. It's a similar kind of thing just a you know what I mean? No, it's a copy paste with a completely different actors. It's very >> now I but I think you know what I really think my my read on it is. I think the Trump and this is what we kind of talked about before we started recording the Trump admin's kind of philosophy is it doesn't matter what the optics are, we win.
7:31Do you think that is how they've always been or do you think they got this enormous big dick from like the culture shift when they won the election the second time?
7:40>> So when I say we win, that's their philosophy. I'm not saying they're winning. I'm not saying they're right.
7:45>> Right. No, >> but I think and that maybe like they like the COVID stuff, everything that happened at during CO and then kind of the Biden administration. I mean, he lost in 2020 even though he says he doesn't, but he lost in 2020 for reelection and then he won again. And it was this crazy comeback story, but it really happened. Uh because we went through this crazy time period in CO, which I I think he gets a lot of for for like I mean he was the president when it started. That wasn't going to be stopped by anybody.
8:18>> I agree.
8:18>> I think that was you could have put anybody in it. Uh >> it would have been impossible. The fact we even got to pull off the two weeks is almost like crazy in the American spirit where it's like the two like people this country really did shut down for two weeks.
8:33>> Oh yeah. Yeah.
8:34>> The fact that that like people even kind of agreed to that is almost insane. They eventually fought back >> and now today they would never agree to that.
8:42>> It would never if that happened again it wouldn't and looking back it I don't know what I would have done. That's why even like people get on Cuomo. People get on Cuomo did make some pretty bad calls about the nursing homes. But [laughter] >> I remember Scott Adams who obviously more of a Trump guy right when rest in peace. He was saying like he's like it's very hard to say to a you should have done this, you should have done that cuz you're not in those meetings. You're not in those calls. Now it doesn't help when it's just like at the same time [laughter] [snorts] at the same time he's going
9:18through another scandal and he's like, "Hey, I'm Italian. It's just how I >> I like the Dutch. [laughter] It's nothing much.
9:24>> Yeah, he's like I'm Italian. And then you have Delasio saying like here's get the vaccine with the uh the Shake Shack fries.
9:32>> So it's like >> here comes the airplane. [laughter] >> It doesn't it doesn't help. So it's like but his point was like making the calls is tough for a lot of people. That was an impossible situation.
9:44>> Yeah. And it and when I talked to people about it who were from like outside the northeast corridor right here, right, in other places of the country, >> man, do I totally understand their perspective too from the very beginning where they were seeing like very little of it. You know, they're like, "No one around them was getting sick. Why is the whole world shutting down?" The weird part about here and I think this is why the SCOP was so effective is because if you remember the first two weeks it was kind of nuts and no one knew nothing.
10:14>> It was insane.
10:15>> It was nuts.
10:15>> I I stay so my dad has diabetes.
10:18>> Um he's had diabetes since he was 20 I think type one or whichever one you like genetic. Mhm.
10:24>> Um, so I was a little bit afraid to go home because at first you were told like if there is like they were saying like diabetes is it turned out more so that CO was a little bit like if you had type two and it was like if you're very overweight and all that that was where you should avoid but I was a little bit concerned I didn't want to go home like imagine I remember reading it was someone says it's like >> the the risk of you being alone for a month or two is far is far less than what you would feel like if you gave gave somebody co now and then like imagine if you were the reason your father died like it would be
10:59awful now that's what we were thinking at first then it eventually became clear it's like oh you could like >> but [snorts] at first and I remember I walked around I went to time square it was in >> Yeah >> and then you go to time square right now >> there was it's not a joke there was literally nobody there it was like a a weird uh dystopian movie >> yeah I remember we one of the when I was really making shorts. That was a clip that really resonated. My friend Taylor Ringold back in episode 49. He was talking about it cuz he was going into WFAN to work >> every day and he would just cut he would
11:33ride in from Long Island at like 9:00 p.m. at night and it was just like I am legend. It >> you know I it's crazy because Feb Friday I'll never forget this. Friday, February 28th, 2020 was the last time I was in New York City before until like 10 months later or whatever.
11:52>> I was in Madison Square Garden the night the city shut down.
11:57>> You went to the Big East?
11:58>> Yeah.
11:58>> No I remember when they canceled those games.
12:01>> So, the Big East canled the next morning. They were going to play that like a 12:00 p.m. game.
12:06>> Yeah. I was supposed to go to that >> and I was at it the night before with my friends and that was the night that they the that Thunder Jazz game after Rudy Goar went like that [laughter] >> that Thunder Jazz game happened and they were like you were hearing reports there was like the players are like all in a circle with like their mouths tied and like it was insane and >> and that I think Trump gave a speech that night too and my sister was studying abroad so my parents were freaking out and I was trying to be the voice of reason. I was like, "Guys, >> that's fun."
12:38>> I But I was I wasn't even saying from the co point of view. I was like, "Guys, if you think Trump in America is not going to get a bunch of rich study abroad kids out of Europe, you I'm sorry, you're wrong. They're they're they're going to come home." But the parents, of course, I get it. You're a little bit freaking out. It's like, I want to get my She got home the next day. It was she was fine. But >> I was there and that was the last time.
13:00And then two days later, everything was shut down.
13:03>> Well, this is what was crazy. I was still working on Wall Street at the time. I was like transitioning out of there.
13:08>> But, you know, I'm in it cuz I got clients and the market was that was the February [snorts] I remember cuz Kobe Bryant's memorial was February 24th.
13:17>> Craziest part.
13:17>> And that's when the market started taking a was that Monday. And so that Friday, the 28th, I'm in the city.
13:24I have a meeting above Grand Central Station. Okay. Yeah.
13:27>> And I was early. So, I go down into the bottom of Grand Central Station with the Bluetooth on to take some calls with clients. I'm like refreshing the Dow and the S&P and it's like like everything's red falling through the floor. The Dow's like down like 1,700 points.
13:43>> And I remember I'm getting off this call with a client and I just look around and I see, you know, thousands of people down there and there's, you know, there's dudes in military uniforms returning from service or whatever.
13:55There's, you know, a missionary trip over there. There's a commuter going to an office over there and everyone's normal. And I had this moment where I'm just like looking around. I'm like, "We're going to be all right."
14:08>> Yeah. No.
14:09>> Yeah. We're going to be fine. And then just >> I was firm on Oh, by Easter cuz I think Easter that year.
14:16>> This is before it even like shut down.
14:18So, and crazy enough, I was in London two weeks be like uh that February like 18th to 25th or whatever. And during that time when you were around there in London, that's it started over there a little bit more. I was almost shocked that we I I didn't get it. Um I don't think I ever got it. I never tested positive for COVID.
14:43>> I did. Yeah, I remember it. Um I do >> and I got a [clears throat] bunch after that but took a while >> now maybe like but I did test a decent amount because they made us test at work like once every Monday. Uh there must have been for whatever reason our air system must have been really good in our in our office >> in Manhattan for Barto >> because even when people would get it, no one else would get it. It wouldn't become a a an office thing. And I'm not that's not me saying like oh it's fake.
15:12I was just like I think for whatever maybe it was and we're in like a department of education building. We're not in this really nice building. We're in a building that's like it's us then there's >> eight floors of department of education then some uh fit which is a college um in uh fashion.
15:27>> Yeah. Fashion. Yeah. So this is it's like old school New York building. For whatever reason even when people would get it we wouldn't it would not spread.
15:35You know, I haven't thought about this in a while, like this era, that April, May, June of the pandemic, because this is when I was building the show around the clock. I moved back into my parents house, building a studio, and I would just, you know, be working all day and I'd follow some content in the background. But like that was the >> that was the Davy Day Trader era. That was Port Noise moment. That's when that call her daddy blew up and somehow everyone was like actually paying attention to that. And what's crazy is Dave, got to give him a lot of credit for this. He was like such an early voice of
16:12reason on this. He saw what this was. I remember when he put out a video probably like early May 2020. Yeah, me too.
16:21>> Where he talked about he's sitting in his apartment and he talks about this bouchy >> moving the goalpost over and over and and you're just like, "Yeah." Yeah. And then Elon went on Joe Rogan on May 4th and he was saying the same thing and you're like, whoa. And suddenly you're looking at Elon Musk and Dave Porto.
16:40Interesting pairing there. And they're just saying like everything that we're being told right now is not really what it is. And these people are just enjoying this. And that was the click moment where you're just like, "Oh my god." Yeah.
16:52>> It's crazy to think that first month Fouchi was a superstar.
16:57>> Yeah. And then it all now he's I mean >> he loved it.
17:02>> Yeah.
17:03>> Fouch. Yeah. I mean and he had that kind of northeast accent. Everyone >> wear your mask >> and everything will be all right. Shut the up.
17:12>> Well, that's that's the craziest part about co is how we've been the mask thing back. Then you get into the vaccine. I mean I get it. I think they had the best of intentions. Now maybe there was some powerful ruling class above everybody that did.
17:24>> Do you still think they had the best of intentions after the we seen?
17:27They're eating babies out there potentially.
17:29>> I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.
17:31I just >> I mean maybe they just knew Fouchy was this guy who's like he'll just do by the code. I I feel like they felt looking back the vaccine part is crazy.
17:43>> It's crazy.
17:45>> And it's not because it wasn't even a vaccine. It wasn't like the polio vaccine. It was something that was just And like how [clears throat] did they >> how how do we even know if it was safe and effective? It it looks like >> Yeah. And we probably don't won't know for a while. You need some long-term studies and but it was a huge bet and I get it. But also you look at these other countries and I know they're a little bit different but like Sweden just kind of left let everything just go.
18:08>> Mhm.
18:09>> But it's tough because there were so many people dying.
18:12>> But they were also That's the thing.
18:14They incentivized the insurance companies were incentivizing PE hospitals to put COVID on the certificate cuz hospitals were losing money handover fist cuz people were afraid to go to the hospital if they had any type of problem. And so they'd say, "Well, you get 13,000 bucks or whatever it was if someone died of COVID." So some dude's had stage 4 pancreatic cancer, been in the ICU, and then he dies and they go, "Call it CO." And suddenly that's a statistic. I mean, it it's nuts the incentivization like when you because now we look at this from like the post Epstein apocalypse and you're like, "Holy
18:48who was who really was pulling the strings here?"
18:51>> No, I don't know. I wish I I wish I did.
18:54That's what it's and you kind of see it even what just happened this past weekend, the immediate responses. And I don't blame people for it, >> right?
19:02>> It's like, "Oh, that was fake." And I get why people say that because there's so many and obviously even putting aside some of the things that are a little weird about what happened this past weekend. I'm more saying I get why people kind of are like that.
19:15>> Yes. I dude even if there's stuff where I'm like all right come on let's relax.
19:20Let's let things come out. I can't sit here and let alone lecture like yell at people or get upset at people for thinking the worst when there are some of the things that people used to be called inherently crazy for saying that now are like provably true and you're like guess I can't rule out this other stuff you know >> and it's so funny because and this is kind of I remember I was told in just a really basic like AP maybe it was US history or AP poly or whatever and they were saying there's a politics is very simple. If you look back, the country goes one way and then it shifts to the other way and then it goes back and then
19:59it shifts the other way. And it's so funny because the people that were mad at that were in 2020 to 2024. It's like, oh, just take the vaccine, shut up. Like enough with the conspiracy theories.
20:10Now, those are the same people that are saying, "Oh, that was the fakest thing we've ever seen with." But here's the thing. It will it will shift back too in 10 years. I could we will sit down here and then the same thing will happen and then it and the people that were the conspiracy theories are the ones that aren't even questioning things anymore.
20:26So it's like it's it's very it's just this shift back and forth and that's where sometimes they lose me a little bit. But I'm all for people I mean if you want to ask those questions ask those questions. I don't know how you would recruit [laughter] a Caltech mixkin kid that had a blue sky account that was talking with William Stencil and like >> going to live.
20:50>> Yeah. And I don't and he has to go to jail for the rest of his life. I don't know how you would recruit them, but >> things you never know. Like there's and that's where you can't just run to stuff with absolutely no evidence to go off of which to be clear people were doing about 5 seconds after course of course of course >> but like the fact that your head runs to considering the idea that like maybe it was MK Ultra. It's crazy.
21:20>> I was going to bring it up. It's like maybe MK Ultra or maybe that discombobulator thing that we were just talking about. Maybe there's a discombobulator that can just trick your brain.
21:28>> Yes. I think I don't know.
21:30>> Yeah, >> I think that's a crazy thing to say, but I get why people are like um >> Yeah, you were talking about the mask earlier. I forgot about this, right? I was thinking walking around like maybe maybe like maybe maybe you Yeah, the mask >> John Mendez who was like the godmother of like CIA disguises. She tells the story and there's a picture of it.
21:52She HW Bush was at CIA obviously she knew him like they had a close relationship and then he's I think it was at this point he's president he's not vice president anymore he's actually president so maybe it's like 1990 and she tells the story where she had come up with the new prototype mask and she's like let's test it out she did a full briefing closer than you to me to him for like an hour and then went like this and he was like what the >> 30 years ago >> 35 years ago >> what do you think they got now Bro, you know, you see those videos of dudes putting on the mask and like tighten it up like this and then putting the hoodie
22:28up and you're like I >> I would not know. And that's a basic like, you know, out of like a Spencer store in the mall.
22:36>> Yeah. Yeah. They just want to steal to go get like uh get 50K in jewelry.
22:41>> Yeah.
22:41>> What are they willing to do where it's like trillions of dollars are on the line? I mean I I now it's not even money. It's power because it's like at a certain point I mean all these people are fine for the rest of their life no matter what.
22:53>> So it's >> that's not what it's about.
22:56>> What it's not money I mean they already made it.
22:59>> Money's a way of keeping score.
23:00>> Yeah.
23:01>> That's it.
23:01>> And then they're just power. I mean it's the egos. I don't know if it's wanting their place in history. I don't really even know because I saw a tweet [laughter] coming in here. It was like, so we're talking kind of on more of the theory side. On the real side, >> there's a huge chance that this guy who just got arrested, he thought he was going to become like a Luigi Manion figure and he was going to potentially kill somebody and then become a political kind of hero.
23:32>> Yeah.
23:33>> But no one gives a cuz he's not that good-looking and he's just it's just he's a kind of a weird like he's a average looking guy and he failed. So that and I I mean I think it's fair as a human being to think of things from a probability point of view and yeah there's there's a chance it's fake.
23:49There's a chance that this guy's just crazy. Um and there's a chance that he thought he could do something. And then also all the indications I can't believe they had it at this Hilton.
24:00>> That's why they need the ballroom, Jack.
24:02>> I know. I know. I know. And then the first and I will say I mean when these people are saying these things >> and it's like the first time an FBI director went to the White House correspondents that's insane.
24:13>> You got C-SPAN throwing they were throwing side shots at it. Can we pull this up de before the shots rang out they're like I guess C-SPAN this is like their you know Met Gala or whatever. So they're they got the cameras for all 10 people watching at home and they're like and there's Cash Patel. To be clear, you need to be a credentialed media member. I'm not really sure how he's here. He's technically not in the cabinet.
24:37>> And Hexath was there, too.
24:39>> Heath is in the cabinet, though. So, that's what it is.
24:42>> You know who I didn't see there?
24:44>> Who?
24:44>> Howard Lutnik. [laughter] >> Howard Lutnick.
24:47>> I never saw my boy Howie there. This is interesting. It's just really interesting.
24:51>> Howard Howard is >> It's funny because Howard's in every photo behind and people will will post tweets. They'll be like, "Who's that guy behind him?" And it's like, "The people that know." It's kind of that meme. It's like the people that know. [laughter] >> Yeah.
25:04>> The people that don't know. And it's like, "Yeah." Yeah. The guy. And it's like, "The people that know." And it's like like deep fried. [laughter] >> Yeah. It's If you go to Twitter, I just love the initial headline, Patel. I've never been intoxicated on the job.
25:17Excellent. But if you go to Twitter, type in C-SPAN Patel [clears throat] and they like you just hear [laughter] you just hear the the people doing this. We're in just Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's it. All right, let's get volume on this. This is great.
25:31This is great.
25:33>> We got to mark that cuz that'll be >> We'll be discussing the dinner, talking about issues, taking your calls as well.
25:40>> Looks like Cash Patel is at in the [snorts] ballroom itself.
25:47do not know who invited him. Again, you have to be a media organization and a member of the White House Correspondents Association to have a table.
25:57>> All right. So, [laughter] so, so C-SPAN's so interesting cuz it's WFAN for >> for like it's literally WFAN for international or not or for politics, but even like less so. almost a because WFAN for politics was like Rush Limbbo and all that. Like C-SPAN's kind of almost the >> they're the PBS.
26:20>> Yeah. of of and people call in like they literally call in. Who is watching? I've never heard of I' I know people that watch if you go into this is another thing that fascinates me is TV ratings for Fox News, CNN, MSNBC are all driven by old people communities >> 100%. The average the average listeners two years ago was 68, 69, and 70 for the >> They're all around the same.
26:49>> Yep. And then you hear about it's like and then you hear from my parents don't watch news like that. Maybe they'll turn it on if something's happening. But like I've never been home and then my you oh there's my dad watching MSNBC or Fox News.
27:02>> But then you talk to people say yeah my grandfather you go home. They have Fox News on 8:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. They haven't missed the five in 15 years. And I'm [laughter] like I'm like I guess someone has to watch it. [snorts] I was with uh I my my dad's like just old school passive you know what's that playing in the background or yeah it sounds about right you know like that really smart guy he just doesn't have time to like actually pay that close attention so I'm down in Florida with him and I forget what it was he was asking me about like Tucker Carlson's opinion on something with Israel they
27:36heard about so we have on when the war broke out Tucker did this like 90minute sit down explaining the whole thing like I'm Tucker Carlson And so we stick it on and at one point he goes, "Obviously no one supports this war except for, you know, I hate to say it, but the people born between 1946 and 1964, watch Fox News." And I'm just like driving the car looking straight forward, not saying anything. And my dad's just over there like, "Damn [laughter] it, >> got him.
28:07>> That's me." I'm just like, "That is entirely."
28:11>> Fascinating. [snorts] >> How does Fox News handle that?
28:15Because how do you keep your base while also trying to get new people in?
28:22Because where what happens to those viewers? Is it just kind of oh the people that are born in from 1965 to 1980 in 1520 years? They're the ones that are going to be uh watching. I don't know. I don't think so. I don't know though.
28:37>> I think they're right. This is my guess.
28:38I don't know cuz I don't know anyone at these networks in particularly, but you know when you look at CNN, when you look at Fox, when you look at MSNBC, I am guessing it's like they realize the boomer generation is the largest most over stuffed generation there is.
28:54They're going to ride this Turkey as long as they can. Suck the last bit of the fat out of it for money and for power and to get things through like FISA warrants and palunteer and wars with Iran and here and there and 10 years from now they don't care if it's gone because no one below those ages is ever going back to that.
29:12So they're just riding it while they can and sucking the rest.
29:14>> And do you think what do you think happened? So that's the big question.
29:18the people that are kind of rising up now like even right and or left.
29:22>> Do you think these are people that can make the change? Because I mean, let's be real, Trump was supposed to make the change. That was his whole thing, drain the swamp.
29:31>> But it's it's not really like you could even be someone that really loves Trump.
29:36And I think you could sit them down and say, "Hey, >> you drain the swamp." And they would kind of be like, "Yeah, but is it impossible to or is it just >> That's a great question. And are is it do you not have enough time to do it?
29:49And is it he's trying to drain the swamp and then the courts are there's these courts that stop it? I I don't know.
29:54That's more saying from his point of view or he was just lying. He just he needed the money anyways. And >> here's the thing. Here's the thing about Trump that's so confusing to me.
30:04>> When his first administration was very chaotic to me. I have political differences with Trump. I'm gonna have political differences with everyone who goes in there because I really don't identify with either party.
30:15>> But like when you when once he was gone and he was gone for a little bit, you know, he got past all the hoopla with January 6 and all that and you could really just think about it. I remember in like 2022 looking back on his presidency and yes, it was chaotic. Yes, you never knew what he was going to tweet. Yes, there were things you didn't like. Yes, there were very dumb people hired. Yes, there were mistakes all [clears throat] over the place. I'm not saying that wasn't the case. But I remember thinking about like what everyone was so worried about before he got in there and I was like >> exactly I was like didn't happen. I said
30:46I completely agreed with you. I said co was going to happen to whoever was in there like like whatever fine there were things mishandled. Who cares >> before that? I'm like was it the worst presidency I've ever seen? I was like no >> no George Bush significantly worse. I I don't think Obama was a great president.
31:04I'm like Trump was he was fine. And now this is why I say this. When he was getting attacked attacked attacked while he was out of office, they threw charges on this guy. They you know, were they they they almost killed him. Like the whole bit, whatever that was, you know, it was almost like, okay, we've seen this before. He Yeah, he's a liar. Yeah, he's a New York guy, but like it w it can't be worse than this, right? And then he comes in and it's opposite day on everything. And it's a different kind of bad. Like Biden's bad was a very different vibe to it. Like we talked about earlier, this is a different kind of bad right here.
31:45But it's bad. And it's it to your point, it is whatever the opposite of drain the swamp is. They're literally building like a palunteer superfest nest underneath the goddamn White House as far as I'm concerned.
31:55>> Yeah. You know, I think that's a fair assumption. I mean, what what even is that? And that's even like the 13th on the list of concerns, right? I mean, I think you saw what happened in Venezuela and you're like, "Okay, got in, got out.
32:08In theory, you could be against it completely, but it didn't get into this endless war." But this what's going on in Iran, it could be endless again. And then that brings us back to kind of Bush into Obama days. And it's just now also another thing that I'm thinking about is now is this just Trumpian or are we going through this like we're we're so in we're desensitized to it but there's so many things happening every single day. The New York Times didn't even have the assassination attempt on their back cover on Sunday morning.
32:43>> Really?
32:44>> Yeah. Now I don't know if that's because Saturday night into Sunday what >> you get the No, no, I saw it on Twitter, but but [laughter] but you I I don't think it was on the uh on the the but and there's so many things that happen and we overcriticize everything, which is great. I think pol politicians should be overcriticized of anything.
33:03>> Agreed.
33:04>> What will the next one look like? it does it kind of go back to the Obama thing where it's like nothing ever happens or do we go back to the Biden where it's like we have kind of a zombie running it >> or is it kind of just the Trumpian politics exists and there's kind of the opposite effect of Trump that comes in that whoever wins I mean if if it's Newsome if it's uh I mean I guess Newsome's kind of the leader now I guess Kamla could run again I don't think they would run Kamla again they can't run but but she's she wins in these polls that they put out >> she does >> what polls I Well, that's another thing. The polls
33:39are a legit joke.
33:40>> The Soros polls. Like, what are we talking about, but she can't put a sentence together, >> don't get me wrong. I mean, I think she president >> like Newsome is definitely or Josh Shapiro, but I mean, >> Josh Shapiro never win because of the Israel thing.
33:55>> Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
33:56They didn't pick him because of I mean, >> picking Tim Walls is one of the alltime decisions. Yeah, >> because you could have gotten a Tim Kaine who Hillary had who was just whatever.
34:08>> Yeah, he was white milk toast.
34:09>> Yeah, milk toast. Tim [laughter] >> when he was walking out like this and then he was like, I'm a football coach actually. It's get the out of here, dude. Then he got married like he his biggest his his favorite thing of all time was like the tenement square. He got married on the tenement square anniversary. He loves China.
34:27>> Minnesota is its own thing.
34:30>> I felt it felt like a troll. That's what it everything feels like it's a simulation.
34:35>> But here's the thing, that's the estab like the established to an extent. I think it shifted a little bit in 2024, but the still got huge money from huge donors from people that are the establishment. I mean, George Clooney >> is [clears throat] the establishment and there's people there was so many CEOs that were supporting it, so many companies.
34:54>> How does that decision get made? How does somebody not look at that and think this isn't going to work? I get why the Josh Shapiro thing didn't work, but even with that concern, I mean, she still had the same there was a big uh kind of looking at why she lost and they still feel as if her like a lot of people said it was like people didn't come out because they were kind of concerned about her potential support of Israel.
35:18So like if that was the concerns >> that's a huge no a huge if I recall correctly they're kind of uh looking back on it a lot their kind of uh when they went back and played Monday morning quarterback and they did the full kind of analysis that was something that came up >> I guess to prevent some of the hard left vote from coming out.
35:43>> That's what I'm saying cuz that that's one like >> I don't think Kamla had an issue. I think Kamla was another peasante on the string who wasn't going to do a goddamn thing. But like when you write down her policy positions that was Trump scoop Dems's working on secret report found Gaza cost uh >> she didn't speak up enough.
36:01>> Yeah. But even though she like here's the thing you're trying to please people that she What could she possibly say >> right now? I understand it's these are people that wanted it's like oh they want the thing that she probably would have had to do there would be you I'm going to recognize Palestine as its own state.
36:22>> Yes.
36:22>> And but then also I mean this is what this is the issue with political stuff and then political suicide and then you >> she'll probably lose a lot of donors. I mean that's the kind of that's why it's like I can't imagine wanting to be political to that extent. If you just do stuff online, you talk about stuff online, it doesn't matter. You have your own home. You can defend yourself. All of that. You're out there.
36:45You have to play so many games.
36:47>> Yes.
36:47>> And that's why I even I think that's why I kind of feel a little bit Kla's her own thing, but I I feel bad. It's like you But then again, you picked this power hungry game. You knew it. You could have stopped after you were in California.
37:00>> You could have like And then also, you can get out and make >> $5 million a year being a consultant.
37:07Why do you think they go for it when they know they they're going to be owned?
37:11>> I think there is a power and ego desire within people that I can't fathom and that's probably just because like my mother and father were just great. They don't really have it >> right.
37:23>> There's some people that just it's inside of them. It may be genetic.
37:28>> Let me ask you this cuz I was thinking this earlier. Like how well do you know Dave Porto?
37:32>> Not well. Not well at all. He's just my He's just my boss. And I like that he's my boss that it's more Yeah. He's not someone that really unless you're an OG.
37:41I don't think you really know him that well, >> but you you probably know a little bit more about him than the average person on set. Okay.
37:48>> So, like Dave Portoi, self-made, built this whole thing standing, you know, on at at train stops handing out paper newspapers in ' 03 after leaving his job. I respect the out of it. Builds this up over so many years. ends up taking some some chips off the table, selling to Carile Group in 2015, whatever that was part of it. Maintains full control though. Ends up then getting that back, but then giving up to Penn and maintaining control of the company, but not having control of the overall thing, and then somehow ends up getting his $500 million investment back for $1 and gets the whole thing back. He's, as far as things
38:27are concerned, like a billionaire. And yet to me everything I hear he still hungrily attacks every day just like he did 7 8 years ago even like that.
38:39>> I think he's definitely somebody that's a little bit more well obviously he's still an ambitious hungry guy because if not he would have just went away but he's not >> like back when I started he was in the office every single day.
38:54>> Now he's he goes he's in Florida. He kind of runs like I mean it's kind of an operation that's a little bit and also I think it's strategic cuz he knows that he's not going to be around forever and not wanting to do everything Barcel related forever. So he needs you're you're almost forcing the content employees that you have to almost make it by themselves without him if that makes sense because >> but still being here's my question Jack still being so big so involved publicly clearly the face of the brand and all that he seems from the outside even if there's some things where he's thinking
39:27about the future like that he seems like he is still driven to build build get this thing bigger get this thing bigger I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that by the way but I'm curious like for a little lesser parallel here to like running the country or whatever. What makes a guy like that who's done more monetarily than are in his wildest dreams want to still have that drive to do that?
39:48>> So, I think it's two things. One, I may sound like a bootlicker, but I think he truly he bought the company back. He said this publicly. He did say he was like, "I just want to keep this company break even. We want to grow, of course, but we want to keep it break even." I think he actually cares about the people that he employs. um he will call them names and everything, but he's a he's he's New England, Boston. Like, he's going to call you stuff. If he really hated you, he'd fire you, right? He'd get rid of you.
40:14>> And then also, I think there's like I mean, he's a guy that always he probably would have been doing what he's doing if it never really worked out the way that it did. And he makes all this money. Was he kind of he may like kind of being uh front and center, but not that much. I don't know. Why does he do it? There may be a little bit of a but also what do you do once you make all that money? Do you think you would stop? Let's say I give you $100 million now. I don't think you'd stop. Maybe you do one a week, >> but I even know I don't even know. You strike me as somebody that would do it still two or three times a week.
40:48>> Maybe there's a little bit better of a setup and it's a little bit like you would have more options just because money is buying power literally.
40:56But I think it's also I think about it's like if you got this money like what would you do? I I don't know. I mean it kind of gets boring if you just >> Yeah. I'll never fully retire.
41:04>> Exactly. You You would get bored. I think about it. And maybe And he does.
41:09And I think he really likes the idea of like he can give back to people. He did that whole Barcel fund thing. He loves to help individuals that uh very sad stuff that happens with police, firemen, when there's just awful things that happen on the job. And of course, there's a lot of things that happen all the time. He can't do it for every person, but he does that a lot. And so maybe I don't know what makes him tick.
41:30>> Yeah. I I don't think it's an overall power desire dynamic because he's not hitting everybody up every day and being like, "Make sure you do this, make sure you do that." He kind of lets you run free.
41:41>> That's cool.
41:41>> Which is really cool and especially from a creative point of view.
41:44>> So, let's bring it back to the politicians.
41:46>> Did I go to the bathroom quickly?
41:47>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. We'll be right back.
41:49>> All right, we're back. So, what what I was going to ask you was you brought up the original point where we got on that tangent about, you know, Dave and he looks at power. You brought up the point of like What is it for these politicians that they want to do it where they're still going to be bought off, but like there's something about the power that they they love even though they could get out of that and go make $5 million to go give a speech somewhere or whatever. So, do you think it is a parallel on a way higher scale to like in a bad way in this case to like Dave like well I just want to keep
42:21continuing. I built bar stool so I'll just keep continuing. It doesn't matter how much money I have. and they're like, "Well, I became a politician, so I'll just keep continuing, and that means I need to try to be this position instead of that position or get to the highest position."
42:32>> Yeah. So, maybe it's just that they continue to try to get to that next step, the next goal along the way.
42:40But, yeah, it is a good point that maybe it's just them continuing and they've done it for so long and maybe they've done things, and this go kind of goes to a a lot of the other theories. It's like they maybe they've done things along the way that they >> I'm not saying this specifically about Kamla. I'm saying this just in general.
43:00Maybe they've done thing things along the way and maybe they can't stop.
43:03>> Maybe there's a little bit of a no, you're going to do this or else. And now what is that else? We expose this, we expose that. I mean that kind of goes back to all the blackmailing and I'm sure that exists. And now my bigger question is how big is it, >> right? And is it as big as kind of the is it not big or is it as big as the craziest thought about it is which >> it's in the middle >> in the middle which is still pretty damn big.
43:30>> Yeah.
43:31>> And this goes back. We talked about Christy Gnome's husband with the the fake big boobs or whatever that he's into.
43:37>> Whatever was going on there.
43:40He had to tell Christine Gnome and the FBI or maybe CIA before she started or maybe in the midst of it because they were saying they will use it like other countries will use this as blackmail. So we need to know about this.
43:55>> Wait, he told them about it?
43:56>> I think before it became public. If you look it up, he had to tell intelligence agencies because they could have used >> back when she got the job.
44:06>> Yes. And they still gave her the job. No way.
44:11>> I I'm pretty sure that was in those articles. You could look it up. Like it's it's there. I mean, I think the intelligence agencies were saying, "Hey, we need to know." They may have even found it and said, "We need to know about this. Is it true? If it is, we need to be prepared for blackmail about it because that's how these and where's [snorts] that blackmail from? Who knows?
44:32Could be from our allies. Could be from other people as well. You never know.
44:36You never know.
44:37>> That's the thing. There's no there's no such thing in my opinion as a fullblown ally in any way. Everyone >> is looking to oneup everyone around the world. There's no such thing as that.
44:50Are there places that are certainly closer friends and friendly? Yeah. But we still all spy on each other.
44:56>> Like uh Kirao, how do you say >> Kyaku?
44:59>> Kiryaku. He was talking about that too and he's talked about it in a lot of interviews. It's it's everywhere. And he was I think he was referencing it's like when he worked with I mean he probably has the ultimate brain for this but it's like when you work with spies I mean they're spying on you already. And even when you go and work with a specific agency that's supposed to be your your friend >> they're probably spying on you too. I mean like I'm sure MSAD knows everything about everything.
45:24>> Yes.
45:25>> And that's their job though. And they're you can hate them. They're really good at it.
45:30>> They're the best in the world at it.
45:31>> And that's probably why we allied up with them [snorts] to an extent. I mean that goes all the way back. I'm not the biggest expert on that, but I will say I mean like we send them money because they probably give us stuff back.
45:44>> Yeah. But they give us intelligence.
45:46>> Yeah. Talk to so many people who are like they give us the intelligence that they want the intelligence to be so that we can go do the things that they can't do themselves.
45:56>> Which by the way, let me be clear. I think the same way if I were them. But the fact I think what has pissed off Americans more than ever is the fact that our people continually go along with that and we're like why is that?
46:10>> I think it's it's really valuable to ask all those questions. Yeah. Why is someone an ally? And then I mean I even think I mean >> when I'm discussing and thinking about NATO and all of that. It's like we're paying all of this extra and we're doing all of this for kind of countries across Europe to exist in their own kind of >> fantasy world. And then we if anything goes wrong for them then we have to come in and then we're also getting screwed on a lot of those deals. That makes sense to me in terms of why you'd be against it. But you have to ask those same questions about uh in a military point of view as well. And I mean the
46:47Middle East I mean we'll probably die without having answers about the Middle East.
46:52>> And the other issue is that you know this isn't the 1980s 1990s America. We don't have a burgeoning middle class like we did back then. People are being left behind. This dystopian world has shown its fangs, especially over the last six, seven years more than ever. And people are losing. They're getting apathetic and angry >> and jobs are going to start going away.
47:15>> That's right.
47:15>> And specifically jobs of kind of those middle class and that may doesn't really even exist anymore, but even more so.
47:22And that goes back to kind of I was talking about AI from a content creation point of view, but the bigger question like what happens? I really don't know now.
47:32>> Is this going to be and this is kind of the Gary Vee point of view. It's like oh there's always new technology. There's the radio. They freaked out about that.
47:40The internet, the printing press, the uh the the line in the uh in the Why am I blanking? like uh where they would like mechan like people used to have jobs working in car uh factories assembly line. Thank you. Like all these things that jobs have always come and go.
48:01>> That's right.
48:02>> But this one feels a little bit different >> if and that's and to Gary Ve's point that's what we say about everything.
48:08This one feels different. This is the new normal. The question is, we've never created something that can actually [clears throat] outthink us.
48:18>> And it's only going to get smarter.
48:19>> And it's only going to get smarter. Now, let's go back to what you were saying earlier about when you were talking with the Meta AI guy because this is fascinating to me.
48:26>> Now, I just want to make it clear that wasn't a guy that worked at Meta. It was a another influencer there.
48:32>> Got it.
48:33>> But they they were but I hear that from a Meta AI specific person.
48:37>> I just want to make that clear. But this is someone that you would characterize as being very much in that space of understanding. Okay.
48:44>> So, I think there's something to be said about commoditized content to where let's say you're someone who's not necessarily like a personality. You're just a here's how to do this or whatever content and there's nothing particularly special or charismatic about you that draws people to you in like an artistic communication way. Yeah, you're in trouble. You're in deep trouble with AI.
49:06But I do think and I don't think this is the bias of my industry and and being in this I've thought about this a lot over the past five, six, seven years. I do think the actual substantive communication which has a whole range to it, topics, all all different subcategories and stuff like that, but things where people need to feel like there's that thing where it's a person and they can relate to them and it's what it is. While there will be some AI that I think is so good that when people first hear it, they could get tricked. I think that the the veil of companies also revealing what is AI, which is
49:43going to be important to legislate like YouTube will have to say this channel is AI or Facebook will have to say this this page is AI and stuff like that.
49:50Once we as long as we have those guardrails set up, I think once people know that like let's say they're listening to a show talking about current events or a guy telling his story or something, once people inherently know that it's not a human talking, they're not going to get into it. That's why that Drake and the Weekend AI song that was fire when you first like hear the first bars of it that came out a year and a half ago, no one listens to that cuz it's AI.
50:15>> I know. But like the one of the top Spotify country songs recently AI >> AI but did it what happened when it got revealed to be AI? I don't know. I think >> I don't know. And so I just my response to that even though I think I agree probably 90%. Is what happens when it gets too good? And also what you just said and I I actually agree with what you were saying but >> you're talking about Congress. you're talking like we can't rely on those people to make the right calls on AI.
50:46They up everything else. How are they going to be the ones that put the guard rails now? It's kind of it's really kind of scary, but also like I mean the big the big people here are Elon, Zuck, um Tik Tok's its own thing with China and now it's in America, but it's like that's Oracle now >> and then and you you could talk Yeah.
51:05then and and then I mean who knows maybe these are all these are the people that really will control and how good will they be at identifying AI and that's also a real concern too cuz it's like at some point Donald Trump represented the outsider to places and people just like many of those people you just mentioned and now term two right from day one they're on the deis at the inauguration and then the next day they're rolling out AI >> and Alman >> Alman >> like what is that man.
51:36>> And then I mean obviously Elon's involved and then like Elon and Altman are kind of going back and forth, but that could even be fake just like I mean it could really be fake just they're just showing oh there's different thought.
51:48>> They used to like each other like a decade ago >> and they like those are two guys that probably could like each other tomorrow.
51:55It's the same thing with Elon and Trump.
51:56They get they go back and forth one time one day Elon saying that Trump can't is on is that's why he's not releasing them. time he's on the Epstein list and the next or two months later is that Mara Lago >> right >> there. But here's the thing. Is that calculated or is is everyone just running around with their heads cut off?
52:13>> I I don't million dollar question, man.
52:16What if it is reality TV versus what if it is really just a clown show?
52:22>> I think a lot I think that it may be both. But even thinking about you said reality TV, of course I go back I mean that's Trump's bread and butter. And that's why when I said earlier, it's like Trump, the the thought process behind Trump and everything in that in that administration is if people freak out about something, it doesn't matter.
52:39We go on to the next day. You just keep going.
52:42>> You literally it won't m and it may matter, but it's more so their philosophy is we don't care. We continue on. That's kind of Trump's entire thing.
52:50And you kind of see that from what he wrote in his books and everything where he's just he's oh, I don't care. I just keep going. He learned like he really took what Roy Conn told him to heart.
53:00Yes. You never admit defeat.
53:02Yeah.
53:03>> You always change the What are the three things?
53:05>> It's like admit nothing, deny everything, and keep going. He doesn't >> basically. Yeah.
53:09>> But he doesn't he doesn't care. He just laughs it off. Or he's like, "Oh, you're wrong." And then attacks the media member and then just keeps going. But here's the thing. How many media members attack >> attack and and then he just continues on.
53:20>> Yep. Attack, attack, attack. Admit nothing, deny everything, claim victory, never admit defeat. What does that say?
53:26>> And then also Trumpian move is make everything worse and then make it a percent better and then say look [laughter] >> we won.
53:34>> We won. Exactly.
53:35>> We got the straight hormuz open for an hour.
53:37>> Yeah, [laughter] >> IT WAS TOTALLY OPEN FOR FREE TWO MONTHS AGO.
53:41>> NO, I know. I know. Now, but here's the thing. What Trump will say will be, well, now look at the American oil. Like we're going to produce more here. Now, was that his goal and thought process when he did it? Or [snorts] it's also kind of like in a weird way, and even Democrats will admit to this. Trump somehow always comes out on top. This feels like it may be over.
54:04Like the run may be over, but he just But think about it.
54:08>> Like January 6th happened. He denied every election result.
54:13>> He won the election four years later. He came out on top. I mean, >> what happened 2 days after January 6th?
54:20>> On January 8th, >> forget forget all the controversy over whatever happened on January 6. Just ignore that.
54:26>> Yeah. No, no. What happened on January?
54:28>> Remember when it was there? Yeah. Right.
54:30And it was like, oh, this is bad.
54:32>> He was he was castrated on January 7th.
54:37He was to like even like his hardest core supporters are like, "All right, I can't just all right, whatever." Like two weeks. All right, whatever. January 8th, he got kicked off the internet everywhere. And they immediately made him an underdog. Immediately, they made him the guy who was being attacked and he got to say, "Look what they're doing.
54:56They're doing it to the sitting president. What do you think they can do to you?" Then a year a year and a half later, they raid his wife's panty drawers and charge him with all these crazy charges. Then he almost gets his head blown off and they they kept m it got to the point where people are like, "Yo, this this motherfucker."
55:13And then he has a mug shot. Yeah. And people wear it on a shirt. But that's the point of what I was trying to say.
55:20It's like we just win and it's almost luck, but it's just there's uh I I was talking with uh my friends I was and people it's there was uh it's I think a Jewish saying there's just like a north star of sorts where it's just like no, it just works out.
55:36>> And it's in like the Torah or whatever.
55:38And I there's and it's in every culture too, but I forget the the term, but Trump kind of has that where it's just kind of and then also like Dave Portoy gets the company back for a dollar, >> right?
55:52>> And it's like he finds the caller daddy.
55:54>> Yeah.
55:55>> And then but Trump and then like oh people attack Dave, but then he just keeps going. What what are you going to do? And then you find the next um >> Yeah. Defounding Cam Zulova. This phrase is rooted in Jewish tradition, specifically with the sage Nacham and Ishkamu.
56:12>> He used it to mean that even in a situation that appears negative, a greater good or spiritual lesson will ultimate ultimately emerge. Which there's something to be said for that, too. Like in a serious way, like, you know, >> there's a there's something viral on Twitter right now. It's like the placebo effect of sleep.
56:27>> Yes. Tell yourself you slept well, suddenly you feel like you did. And then like there's just kind I mean this is kind of this goes back to it's maxing like I mean and I mean no disrespect to anybody that but return max is the idea of like no I'm going to win like [laughter] I I guess the better term is delusional maxing but it's like obviously if you're if you're leg if you got shot in the leg you can't delusional your way through it but it's >> right >> next to oh who who cares oh you're freaking out >> the power of belief is real though.
56:55>> Oh it's insane. I mean that's probably that's something that and that goes beyond religion like or it is religion but it's the way you know we've had religious wars forever but it's the power of and that's what [snorts] yeah but the power of and that's what and this is kind of more of on the crazy side it's like why do you think they gave people all those wearable tra like trackers because when it when you I'm not saying it's fake but it's like you see that you slept shitty then you slept shitty >> but if you're just like oh no I don't sleep that and you just keep going.
57:28>> I you not cuz you're referring to that tweet. I saw the same tweet this week.
57:32>> Yeah. People were talking about with the like the Whoop the which are great companies but Yeah. or the Aura ring.
57:37>> Well, no no the first one you mentioned about the uh >> placebo >> the placebo effect.
57:43>> Like I didn't sleep very well last night because I went to bed late and I you not on my walk I I'm very routine. I have the same exact routine in the morning. It's the one part of my day I control. And on my walk to the gym, I just told myself, I said, "I feel great.
57:57I slept great last night and I had a really good workout this morning."
58:00>> There you go.
58:01>> I was like, "Wait a minute. Wait a minute."
58:04>> And also the human one thing I remind myself, the human body is insane.
58:07>> Yes, it is.
58:08>> It's the that like AI can't replicate it. It's like it's truly like the human body. Think about all that's been through for forever.
58:16>> You know, it's funny you say that cuz I was the what what got me the other day.
58:21Now, obviously, there's things that happen and it's not this is we're all talking within reason.
58:26>> Yeah.
58:26>> Like, you can't delusional max your way through cancer, but you may you may be able to really think positively, but you should like you go to the doctor, all that. But >> the little thing like sleeping and then also kind of this idea where it's like when things go bad, oh, who cares? Now, that's really hard to do. But the ones that have perfected it, Trump's probably one of them.
58:46>> Yes, I I do think no matter what, there's something to be said for that.
58:50He really he has a delusional and I wouldn't wouldn't even call it a positive self belief. He's always negative in how he talks, but like for himself and for winning, he has a delusional positive belief and reinforcement. And when you repeatedly use words like tremendous, terrific, amazing, we went above and beyond, we won like never before. Many people were saying it, many, many people. You start to see >> greatest economy ever. Yeah. You start to see it now. That has a lot of negative effects.
59:23>> Yes. For him, >> he's like he buys it.
59:26>> Oh, he buys it to his deathbed. And >> I mean, even like in theor I mean, not to say I mean, we just saw what happened with Eric Swallwell.
59:36>> Trump had very similar things, too. Now, the but Trump just >> continued on. Swallwell's dead. Not dead. Dead, but he's Maybe he'll pop up on like MSNBC eventually. By the way, >> that was a hell of a He had a diddyesque apology video or whatever that was.
59:53>> It's like, "All right, let's sit in the hotel room. Let's make sure we're in front of the hotel blinds, which is totally not where they film pornos. And by the way, don't wear a tie. Open up your shirt. Act like you just and you're finishing to talk about why you didn't sexually assault."
60:07>> Craziest part about him is I think the that stuff where that's obviously not good. What happened with all the his staffers and all that? That man dated a Chinese spy for multiple years.
60:18>> Oh yeah, Fang.
60:20>> That's >> while he was on the intelligence committee for a long time or right after.
60:24>> And how often like that may be happening without us even knowing. You do have to think I'm not thinking >> the honeypot stuff. Oh yeah.
60:30>> Oh my god.
60:31>> All the time.
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