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17:06Hi everybody. Sorry we have uh started late. We had a special off-air interview to do and uh I had a had a bit of a medical emergency.
17:18What happened?
17:19>> Um, not much. Just I have, you know, a spinal fluid leaking into my sinuses.
17:24Not a big deal.
17:25>> Oh, okay. Good. I was afraid it' be something. What?
17:30>> So, uh, we had to decide whether to go to the emergency room or not. We consulted my doctor. My doctor told me to do stuff.
17:39Take a Zerek. Maybe that's it. And, uh, she's scheduling me. Hey, you remember when I had on um Mary Tally Bowen Bow Bowden?
17:49>> And I couldn't pronounce what her specialty was?
17:53>> Yeah.
17:53>> That's who I'm supposed to see.
17:55>> Oh, nice.
17:55>> I'm like, what? That's the name of the doctor. Isn't that ironic that she specializes in that thing that I'm experiencing?
18:05>> Oh, you know what? Do we have her number?
18:08>> I'll call her. I'll call her after the show.
18:12Okay. I'm That's exactly right.
18:17>> Rad.
18:18>> You're a rad wife, not Trad.
18:21Uh, boy, I wish Nick Fentes would come on the show. I know. Uh, >> his followers got their um got their uh whatever in a bunch. I don't want to say panties, but >> yeah, >> cuz that seems >> it's kind of odd because you said come on the show and you can straighten out whatever it is you think is wrong.
18:41I don't. And again, I got no beef with Nick Fuentes. I I just wish he would come on the show. I He was in a dream. I in my dream last night. That's why I'm talking about him.
18:52>> Um >> we were on stage to come.
18:54>> We What's that? Why did you >> Was there a cat meowing at your window?
19:00>> A cat with a little Hiller mustache was meing behind your door.
19:03>> No, we were on stage together, so I don't know where we both had microphones.
19:07>> Probably Tim Pool live event.
19:10Patrick Bed Value.
19:13>> Boy, did you see how uh Patrick uh his his one of his guys uh had a had a debate with um Dave Smith? Did you see that >> with my boy Dave Smith? And how'd it go?
19:26>> Did you It was on Piers Morgan.
19:29>> I think he didn't show up for like the second one or something, right? Is that what it was?
19:32>> Oh, I don't know. But uh Patrick Bet David gave him a dressing down on air.
19:38>> Why? his >> Yeah, the guy. What's his name? Why am I blanking on his name?
19:42>> It's not Vince.
19:43>> No, there's Vinnie. And then >> there's the Israel skeptical guy. And then there's the guy who loves Israel no matter what. And that's that one.
19:51>> Why am I blanking on his name?
19:53>> Uh, >> and I'm sure your Bubby and Zadeie are nice, but they're wrong. Israel is a big piece of It's not helping you.
19:59>> They're all they're all, you know, uh, >> look, Bubby and Zadeie are traumatized from the war. Don't listen to them. But anyway, that was it was kind of wild.
20:07But um I was I was actually like, "Oh, anyway, who cares? It's just it's just drama."
20:16>> Um but um >> Yeah. Well, it might come out this >> Morgan show always is. That's like what he wants. He wants all this kind of crazy drama.
20:23>> Circus.
20:24>> Yeah.
20:25>> Distract from his wife, bang some guy.
20:27>> He's like a famous cuckold. Oh my. Yes.
20:30His wife like Oh, look it up if you don't believe me. Hey, don't take my word for it. Go to your local, you know, I go back and forth and look it up.
20:37>> I go back and forth on Piers. You know, I am glad that he >> Andrew Sausnik.
20:42>> Okay. I am glad that he he Adam.
20:46>> Yeah. All nice people over I had I had a delightful time when I was on Patrick BD David show. They were all >> lots of nice people are wrong about how badness is so you can't just demonize all of them. But I mean, >> no, I I like all those guys. I Adam was very nice to me and Vinnie was fun. He's funny. Mhm.
21:03>> He does those funny videos. Um Patrick was we, you know, he invited me to his house for lunch and it was a fantastic lunch.
21:11>> Nice. At Value Lago, no less.
21:13>> And I've never been myself.
21:21>> It was a delightful experience. I I I really really enjoyed myself when I was uh >> everything about it from start to finish. It was good. I was Was I there once or twice? You've been there twice and I thought the second time was >> was with Tim Pool.
21:34>> That's right. Okay.
21:37And you know that I don't really remember much about that one. The first one I remember because we had we had I actually the thing I most remember is the lunch. How much I loved that lunch. It was great >> and the location >> and his Yeah, it's just he's I'm very jealous of he lives right Yeah. I don't want to say where he lives or whatever, but um it was very I was very it made me start thinking about oh I want to move somewhere like this.
22:08>> Um of course I couldn't afford a place like his house. I'm not saying >> Florida probably >> but I'm saying Florida, you know, near water >> was very uh it was wonderful and anyway it was just it was just wonderful. Uh, no wonder he seems so happy all the time.
22:33Um, but anyway, uh, so let's get let's get to it today. So, remember when Donald Trump was saying this, Kurt, >> are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein. That is unbelievable.
22:52Now, why do I why do I play that for you?
22:55>> I don't know.
22:56>> Well, because Melania came out and said this yesterday. She she called a press conference in the East Wing. I think it's the East Wing >> and and uh they didn't tell anybody what the content was going to be. That's what that's the reporting anyway. It was like a complete blind side. Here's what she said. She came out and said this.
23:20>> To be clear, I never had a relationship with Epstein.
23:24>> Boom.
23:25>> Or his accomplice, Maxwell.
23:30My email reply to Maxwell cannot be categorized as anything more than casual correspondence.
23:40My polite reply to her email doesn't amount to anything more than a trial note.
23:50I am not Epstein's victim.
23:53Epstein did not introduce me to Donald Trump.
23:58>> I met my husband by chance at the New York City party in 1998. Oh, >> this initial encounter with my husband is documented in a detail in my book Melania.
24:14The first time I crossed paths with Epstein was in the year 2000 at an event Donald and I attended together.
24:25At the time, I had never met Epstein and had no knowledge of his criminal undertakings.
24:36So, yeah.
24:38>> What? Why? Okay, so I I knew about her going to the Epstein finishing school for fancy wives for important oligarchs.
24:44Uh cuz Whitney Webb talked about it. Why is she even addressing it?
24:48>> Oh, well, Kurt, sit back. We're going to get into it. Um it So then she try So what's happening is that she's being threatened with some stuff coming out, right? Oh, >> so she's trying to get out and ahead of it. And here's >> don't do that.
25:07>> And here's the part where she tries to super get out ahead of it.
25:12>> Now is the time for Congress to act.
25:16Epstein was not alone.
25:19Several prominent male executives resigned from their powerful positions after this matter became widely politicized. Of course, this doesn't amount to guilt, but we still must work openly and transparently to uncover the truth.
25:40I call on Congress to provide the women who have been victimized by Epstein with a public hearing specifically centered around the survivors.
25:52Give these victims their opportunity to testify under oath in front of Congress with the power of sworn testimony.
26:04Each and every woman should have her day to tell her story in public if she wishes and then her testimony should be permanently entered into the congressional record.
26:19Then and only then we will have the truth. Thank you.
26:26>> So that's kind of I don't know if you remember I played this at the beginning.
26:30>> Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? I mean I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein. That is unbelievable.
26:40>> Hey, someone should tell the truth about that. Melania is right. Jimmy >> interesting you're like the first to bring up APE which is interesting. Hey, Melania's got a real point. Someone should >> someone should which is just interesting. Listen, it's interesting you say that which is just interesting.
26:56>> What's interesting about it >> that it's just interesting as you bring up with that law they interest >> give her we stand with you.
27:08>> So here we go.
27:10>> We stand for you.
27:12>> Okay.
27:14>> But I can't hear it.
27:15>> I know. I know. I I've offered you have another feed.
27:20>> Okay.
27:21>> We stand with you.
27:22>> We stand for you.
27:25>> Uh so that's weird that he would say that. Uh and then his wife would come out and say, "We need a congressional hearing on this."
27:33>> Well, clearly something happened.
27:35>> Seems like we heard from Whitney Whitey Web herself a long time ago.
27:38Jimmy, >> the East Wing and the West Wing don't seem to be talking to each other very well.
27:43>> Ooh. Is it like so is it like the Obama household?
27:47>> I mean she and him don't talk.
27:49>> And everything she said seems totally natural. I mean how many times have people hooked up and made out with someone they are in no ways friends with.
27:58What's what's even memorable a guy about a guy who owns his own island? She must have known hundreds of those guys.
28:05>> I had no Yeah, I had he had an egg penis and it was gross. So >> So here is Glenn Greenwald. He responds the sudden and it by the way Michael Tracy tweeted this out. So now I wonder how he's taken this.
28:21>> Oh, he's been gobsmacked.
28:23>> I bet.
28:24>> Hey, maybe it is.
28:25>> He says this. He says this is gobsm. He said it right there, Kurt. This is gobsmacking.
28:31>> Not only did Melania Trump suddenly decide to give a televised address and about Jeffrey Epstein, she's calling on Congress to act because Epstein was not alone. She just threw a giant stick of political dynamite into the issue her husband despises.
28:49Well, so maybe there's something there there. I don't know. Maybe he's >> Did Iran hack Israel again? Because remember when Iran hacked Cash Patel?
28:57They hacked Israel and got Israel's file on cash.
29:00>> Oh, is that what happened?
29:01>> Yeah.
29:02>> So, here's what Glenn says. the sudden and inexplicable speech by Melania denying she was Epstein's victim that he introduced her to Trump, that she had a relationship with him, and urging more investigation and disclosure is one of the most bizarre events, especially at this point in the war.
29:22>> I mean, what?
29:24>> That's how you bring it up to your husband.
29:28>> Uh maybe she doesn't consider herself a victim because it worked out pretty well for her.
29:37So, here's >> I want to make it clear. I am in no way a victim.
29:42>> So, here's the email. Dear G, how are you? Nice story about Jeffrey Epsing in New York magazine. You look great on the picture. I know you are very busy flying all over the world. How was Palm Beach?
29:54I cannot wait to go down. Give me a call when you are back in New York. Have a great time. And that's from Love Melania. And that was from 2002.
30:05>> Boy, she really pours it on for people she has no relationship with. Huh.
30:09>> Whoa. Well, uh, >> how could you? Why?
30:14>> This comes as a terrible shock because in no way does she outwardly appear to be a woman capable of lying about anything.
30:21>> No, she's too hot. She she has that natural polyiana innocent beauty that you would see somewhere on a dairy farm in Nebraska if it was owned by Jeffrey Epstein.
30:31>> You Jeffrey Epste has to breed that in an underground sperm lab in New Mexico.
30:35>> So here So here is some contradictory stuff today. Melania Trump said the Epstein did not introduce her to Donald Trump. For the record, an assistant Epstein, an assistant to Epstein, told the FBI, effectively under penalty of perjury, that Epstein had indeed introduced Trump to Melania.
30:57>> Do you have Galain do it? Is that what this technicality is? I'll bet you.
31:01>> So, there it is. This is uh Epstein assistant told feds he introduced Melania to to Trump. Uh, by the way, that's what you get for using a secondhand handler because uh, well, let's watch.
31:17>> So, if you go to this redacted paragraph, this isn't this isn't exactly releasing the files when you redact this heavily. Uh, but at the at the bottom, it says Zoli was trying to buy elite models with Epstein. Epstein introduced Melania Trump to Donald Trump.
31:38>> That's different. That's from 2019.
31:40>> Hey, let's unredact the thing and we can all get all this out in the open. The redactions mean they're all guilty of every single thing they're saying they're not guilty of. That's how I take these black bars on the on the phone.
31:50>> This guy Zimpoli. So Epstein was visiting Zoli at the agency when there when they uh there were casting auditions for models. Epste was looking through portfolios and saw blank photograph of her wearing only swim bottoms.
32:06>> Nice. and Zoli were at a nightclub with Epstein who was there with a woman believed was blank blank blank took blank phone. So they >> he said I'm going to put a gigantic baby in that woman.
32:18>> We got this place. Yeah. Gigantic.
32:21>> I'm going to put a 7 foot tall timetraveling boy inside her.
32:30>> You too. They they grow big.
32:34You can't have some You can't That's what you get for using a secondhand handler because she is not the idea uh of a person. She's just the messenger, right? Anyway, absolute chaos chaos in the White House. An expert for Fox News correspondent confirms the West Wing had absolutely no idea what Melania Trump was going to say. Let's listen.
32:53>> Come on.
32:54>> So So Peter, we don't know why the It looks like the White House was blindsided by this, right?
33:01I don't think blindsided, but it seems >> really because he's he doesn't think blindsided. He's going to right now describe exactly that he was blindsided.
33:13>> Okay, let's watch this. Ready?
33:15>> Blindsided, but it seems like there was not um a big plan for the the message to change from a a wartime message and peace talks in Pakistan to this. And yesterday, all morning, uh, we were getting calls from the afternoon shows that, uh, that this statement was going to air during, uh, what's the topic?
33:36What's it going to be about? And I was asking in the West Wing, and they said, uh, we, uh, we don't know. We're not sure.
33:42>> Uh, and so, uh, it was obviously well planned by the people in the East Wing.
33:47Um, but it was a surprise to all of us.
33:51>> So, in other words, blindsided.
33:55>> Surprise. Well, more of a surprise, Jimmy.
33:58Yeah. Jenny just texted me. Mel Melania says she isn't Jeffrey Epstein's victim.
34:03She's the apprentice.
34:05>> So, here So, here we're going to get into where this is probably coming from.
34:11>> Okay.
34:11>> So, one day after the ceasefire, Melania suddenly cares about the rumors of her Epstein. At the same time, about the rumors of her Epstein. At the same time, Trump has a falling out with BB. major falling out over losing to Iran and crashing the global economy. The blackmail MSAD has on Trump is Melania and Epstein. She was trafficked from Ukraine to Epstein modeling companies and then sold to Trump after Epstein had her.
34:41>> She makes this statement out of nowhere cuz she knows the dirt's coming out to force Trump back into the war and Israel first. They have been controlling Trump with this material. It's obvious now. So that's not my theory. I'm just showing you this is one theory.
34:55>> If that's all it is, that still doesn't make sense why Trump would cover all this up because we can't know that he bought her freedom from Epstein. This is nonsense. Like Trump did something bad. There's something real bad that's in there is coming out.
35:08>> So launch a war against Iran to cover up the Epstein files and then relaunch the Epstein files to cover up the strategic defeat to Iran. It's another theory.
35:17>> Well, whatever Tim P talks about, I guess. Uh, for those still behind, Melania's Epstein presser yesterday, I was not a participant, was almost certainly driven by someone named Amanda Unaro, an Epstein victim who had a child with that guy Zamboli, who I just showed you in that other email. He's the one. Okay, so this guy Zampoli, Zampoli was trying to buy elite model with Epstein. Epstein introduced Melania Trump to Donald Trump. Okay. So that's who Zoli is. Uh who brought who brought Melania?
35:57Uh so Epstein's victim who had a child with Zoli. This is the Amanda Unaro who brought Melania to the United States.
36:08Zampoli just got Unaro deported >> and now she's vowing revenge. So the Zoli guy who according to that document introduced Trump uh um uh who says that uh who's in that document where it reveals that Trump was introduced to Melania by Epstein. Well, he had a baby with this Amanda Unaro. Now they're going through a divorce and he had her deported.
36:38And so now I don't want to >> acrimonious.
36:42>> I don't want to get too. So back in the '90s, Zampoli, a friend of Trump and Epstein, created ID models, that's a company, and brought the young Slovenian Melania Krauss to the United States. She hooked up with Epstein. Then Zampoli introduced her to Trump. So now your first lady, So now your first lady, and it seems she's worried about this past.
37:06So that's the story. So that uh Zoli, a friend of Trump and Epstein, created this modeling company, brought Melania to the United States. She then hooked up with Epstein. Then Zampoli introduced her to Trump.
37:22And this is what they're trying to cover up. And this is coming. And so uh this is the in ' 94 to 96 and Poli founded ID Models and meet Slovenia model Melania Krauss in Milan on a casting call.
37:37That's his story.
37:38>> Mhm.
37:39>> In 96, Melania Krauss enters or not Krauss, Can I don't know how you say her last name. Her her maiden name can >> uh or maybe it's Nouse without K is silent like knife.
37:51>> Enters the US and works possibly illegally with Zamboli as her agent.
37:56Zoli says he got her an H-1B visa. So between 96 and 97, Epstein claims he hooked up with Melania after a party thrown by Metropolitan Models. That's his story.
38:09>> In 97, Trump separates from his second wife, Mara Maples. In 98, Zampoli throws Melania a strange lavish press conference in Paris with Slovenian media flown in. Zampoli says he then days later introduces her to Trump, but they may have met earlier. In 98, Trump starts his own modeling agency run by Tomaso Booty. In a few months, they signed Melania. So now you see where the story is going.
38:39>> So they may have met earlier and that's why she's saying she wasn't introduced to him by them.
38:42>> Yes. Okay.
38:43>> So Zoli started a relationship with the young Epstein victim named Amanda Unaro.
38:49They had a child with her and then in 2025 he decided to solve his custody dispute with her by getting ICE to deport her >> and then he took the child.
39:03>> She's now vowing to tell to tell all in revenge. So maybe this is what this is about.
39:10>> Yeah.
39:10>> So it's unclear why Zoli thought that deporting a man. So here's the email, right? Hello Melania. So this I mean this is the tweet. Hello Melania. I was around you for 20 years. You knew I was inside ICE and you know what hurts after all this time. I stayed close to your family, your mother and your father. Not because of you but because of them at events and everything else. So shut your mouth when speaking about me. Because I will expose everything I know.
39:41>> Shut your mouth when you talk about me, Jimmy.
39:45>> Why don't Amanda? Why don't you just expose it anyway, sweetie? Why Why is everybody saving up all their dirty laundry for a personal advantage when you could literally save the world by exposing everything right now?
39:55>> Right. So, here's what Capital Hunter says. It's unclear why Zamboli thought that deporting Amandao to Brazil was the same thing as making her silent.
40:05>> No kidding.
40:06>> An account with her name just started threatening to spill secrets immediately followed by Melania Trump's visibly nervous press conference about Epstein.
40:15Oh, is something funny gonna happen? I hope so. I hope something hilarious.
40:19>> The Guardian says Melania's Epstein presser was baffling. Even Fox asks if there's a story that's about to drop that she wanted to get ahead of. What's baffling is why people thought deporting a mom away from her son wouldn't have consequences.
40:37>> Well, we thought I mean, >> the circle is tight.
40:40>> It usually wouldn't. It's just like a a hot model and uh probably doesn't think she should be treated like the Filipinos that Epstein was trading. You know, >> the circle is tight. In March of 25, Trump made Zampoli special envoy for global partnerships.
40:56One of Zoli's causes was getting Russian athletes back into international sports.
41:01Another helping JD Vance campaign for the pro-Russian Victor Orban. It's a small dirty world. I think the reason Melania is getting ahead of it is Amanda Enaro, model, Epstein survivor, and mother of a child shared with Zamboli, who was part of introducing Melania to Trump at KitKat Club, is now publicly calling her out. Zamboli also called ICE on Amanda and had her deported. So, here's another tweet. Uh, this uh I have nothing left to lose in my life. I will tear down the entire system. Be careful with me. Batch.
41:42>> You know, you should have done it already, Amanda. I'm kind of annoyed that this one chick has the power to tear down the whole system, and just cuz she's affected now, she's going to do it. Like, you. How many more of her are there?
41:53>> So, all of them.
41:54>> Well, hold on. I mean, >> I I I can understand someone being afraid of powerful people come, you know, coming back at her for spilling the beans. I could understand that.
42:03>> These people are up there. They all of them made made like uh uh just like being okay with genocide. They're all made that choice where it's like that's cool with me. As long as I'm rich, that's cool.
42:14>> All right. Well, I So, here's another one. I will tear down your corrupt system. Even if it's the last thing I do in my life, I will go all the way. I'm not afraid. Maybe you should be afraid.
42:23And what I know or of who you are and who your husband is. This is heavy duty.
42:29And here's another one. Uh she she said this to Pam Bondi. Are you already aware of the situation? Do you fully understand the extent of the information I possess regarding you and the individuals associated with you? I strongly advise you to consider the seriousness of these matters. Any action taken against me or attempts to escalate this situation could have significant legal consequences. I expect this to be handled with the appropriate level of responsibility and professionalism moving forward.
42:59>> Sounds like blackmail to me.
43:00>> Yeah. What? Will uh we'll take legal action against you and your pedophile husband.
43:05>> Oh, >> I have known you for 20 years. You knew I was detained in ICE. You were present in my life every year of my son's birthday. Even sending secret service and being the first to congratulate him back in 2016. Something was clearly wrong. But I am not part of any evil mission involving children. So what do you do, Melania? You tried to involve me but you failed because I have character says Amanda Andaro. So what what is the true story? It we don't know.
43:36>> She doesn't have enough character to tell us but >> but there's something there because Melania came out >> and gave this press conference like that.
43:46>> So there's something going on.
43:48>> She was so upset she couldn't tell the West Wing, just the East Wing. What? I This is so crazy. I wonder how Matt Taibbe is handling this news.
43:57>> Oh, I hope he's okay. Michael Tracy's been gobsmacked so long.
44:01>> Maybe they're gobsmacked.
44:03>> I hope Gob doesn't smack them.
44:04>> Sounds Sounds painful to be smacked with a god.
44:09>> Like a kidney stone, I'm told. The pain of it.
44:11>> Yeah. Um, so that's interesting. That's So there's the story. And >> pedophile husband. Wah wah wah weewah.
44:19Why would you hold that in until just now?
44:21>> No kidding.
44:22>> See, this is what I'm talking about.
44:23like you you've known for 20 years about her pedophile husband. You're saying this now?
44:27>> Yeah, but she's probably afraid again. I would be afraid of uh powerful people, especially >> because Well, I just mean right now.
44:35>> She's probably seeing what they do to people. You know, >> if you got nothing to lose, tell me now.
44:39Why are you Why are you doing a blackmail thing?
44:40>> Well, she's doing it now because they kicked her out of the country and she can't see her kid. That's why. That's you know, that's what it looks like.
44:48Anyway, so is it was it is it BB Netanyahu? Is it Iran? Did they get into the uh the the files? Did they hack into the to the files and they got something?
44:59And >> it would be a great bomb for Iran is to hack into those files and tell everyone in America what our leaders did.
45:05>> That would be the best for Iran. I say >> they would be considered heroes.
45:09>> Yeah.
45:10>> Anyway, so is it I I think it's a combination of things. I think it might be both those things at once. Plus the losing war and uh is BB mad because we're we we have a two weeks he's fired that they already broke. Are they mad at us now?
45:23>> Yes.
45:25Maybe that's their you know that could be seen as a way to get Trump back into the war. Don't stop now.
45:32>> Anyway, >> great job Trump squandering every >> sticking with your group and what a what a what a disappointment.
45:39>> Anyway, uh if you like to hear my jokes about this, come see me Sunday in Salt Lake City. And then next Sunday in Las Vegas. And then May 7th, it's a Thursday, we'll be in Burbank, California. Special show. I have some surprises. And then May 16th, Tulsa, Oklahoma. And then Oklahoma City, Spokane, Washington, and Tacoma. Go to jimmy.com for tickets. Don't go anywhere else cuz they'll charge you more. Over to Steph.
46:03>> I've got some surprises, too, Jimmy.
46:05Just so you know, I've got a little surprise here. Oh, no kidding.
46:08>> Yes. Hey, did anyone else notice when Melania came out with the robot, it was wandering around? Yes. Like Joe Biden.
46:15>> Oh, that's funny.
46:18>> What's that robot tied again?
46:20>> Is Joe Biden just in a robot outfit?
46:22That's what they did with him.
46:23>> That's what they do.
46:24>> His mind has been put into a robot.
46:27>> Uh, synchronicity, Jim. Synchronicity.
46:30That's from Rojack.
46:32My doctor said my lanta. I said my ass.
46:39And that was from Mabber the one. Day four of fuel tax protests in Ireland.
46:49Main streets nationwide are occupied.
46:51Fuel depots blockaded and blue-haired Marxists serving tea to farmers.
46:56Government is now threatening to send in the army. That's right. Why would the government serve the people when they have an army?
47:04Thank you, Gavin, for the update.
47:05Everything's a scam. Everything's a lie.
47:07Everything's hypocrisy. And so you don't comply. The anticus. Uh just this uh I saw this earlier uh worldwide strike announcement. The world needs a reset.
47:20This is a path to that reset on Monday, April 13th. Everyone in the world, everyone listen to this. Stop working unless you are in a position where you morally feel responsible to work. If you are >> or if you work for the Jimmy Door Show.
47:36Addendum. Addendum. If you are >> what are you reading?
47:39>> If you are a first responder or a fireman or work in medicine, by all means go to work or at the Jimmy Door Show. If your job holds little responsibility, for example, you work for a government agency, a call center, or a superimmy door show.
47:54>> Don't go to work on Monday.
47:55>> Don't go to work.
47:56>> April 13th. Don't sp Now, this is interesting. Now, I think everybody could do this. They say, "Don't spend money on April 13th. stop spending money. Instead, go to your bank and withdraw uh any expendable money you have in cash, regardless of how little that may be. Even >> make a mad dash of the bank and mass the depression is the advice.
48:16>> So, I I think you know this is kind of an interesting concept to stop buying stuff for one day.
48:23>> What day?
48:24>> They Monday.
48:24>> Monday.
48:25>> Monday. Stop buying stuff on Monday.
48:27>> But super chats are cool.
48:29>> Yeah, that's different cuz that's because we're for the people.
48:33>> Yeah. that money's it's not getting taken out of your account right away anyway. It's kind of a thing. So, just don't stop stop reading.
48:43>> Don't do your own research. What are you doing reading? You whenever whenever a girl reads, it always causes trouble.
48:51>> Yeah, I agree.
48:53>> Right. Oh, >> I'm I'm hardcore radical Islamic, but that has nothing to do with it. That's just a good idea.
48:59>> Uh I I've got I got this one. Uh, Ghost Start said it's a cold Oops. Cold war. Cold war. Thank you for that, Goldstart.
49:09>> So, Quebec.
49:10>> Oh, back to Jim.
49:11>> Guess what? And another nation suddenly has Israel derangement syndrome.
49:18>> Oh, no. It's spreading like wildfire.
49:20>> Who is that? It's Spain. So, here's the uh >> Espa.
49:23>> Here's the prime minister, Pedro.
49:26and he's going to call for immediate arrest of uh you could turn this down so I can read it because he's saying it in Spanish and for some reason Grock wouldn't translate it for me like he would they wouldn't make a video with the him dubbed so I have to read it to you here's what he you want to hear what he says this is what he says he says we cannot allow another Gaza in Lebanon Netanyahu is seeking to inflict the same destruction and suffering that we have seen in Gaza contempt for life and for international law is intolerable. There must be no impunity for these criminal acts. The European Union must suspend
50:02the association agreement with Israel.
50:05Whoa.
50:07Whoa. That's some pretty big news.
50:11Everybody's cheering him, too. Wow.
50:16Wow. That sounds anti-eptic.
50:20Uh here's Artist. Uh, Europe can't let Israel do Lebanon what it did in Gaza.
50:26Spain's Pedro Sanchez.
50:28Clear Israel is trampling on international and human law in their European Association agreement. I didn't even know there was a European Association agreement. Of course, there has to be, right?
50:38>> So, let's listen.
50:41>> A Europe that stands firm in defending international law and a rulesbased global order. Yank yank.
50:49uh we cannot just remain stuck in l lamentation and frustration. Just look at Gaza to see the consequences of this violation of international law. That's why from Europe we must also be clear because there are many countries in the so-called global south and they are watching and they want us to avoid this issue of double standards of applying different wait that why does that go so fast all of a sudden hang on you know how the Spanish talk so fast double standards of applying different standards depending on the case whether it affects Europe more or less well that's exactly what they do. Of course,
51:33let's not allow another Gaza and Lebanon because in the face of blatant violations of international humanitarian law, Europe must act consistently if we also want the rest of the world to look at us and support the aid we are providing to Ukraine in its fight for freedom. So, he's, you know, he's only half a douche and uh against the invader. Okay, the invader is NATO.
52:02Okay, just so you know. And he knows that. But for some reason, he wants to tell half the truth. So, I'll take half the truth.
52:09>> In this case, Putin's Russia. Okay. Yank yank. And that's why yesterday the government of Spain >> and I propose that for the sake of consistency and also empathy the European Union must suspend its association agreement with Israel because it is clear that Israel is trampling on and violating many of the articles of that agreement especially those related to respect for international law and humanitarian law.
52:42Damn.
52:44>> If he isn't remember the guy, what was it? Slovakia where he wanted to investigate Fizer and stopped helping with Ukraine and then I got shot in the face.
52:52>> Yeah. And and so I hope he's going to be okay. This guy, if nothing happens to him, I'm going to assume he's controlled opposition cuz this kind of talk will get you shot in the face a lot faster than looking into Fizer.
53:04>> Uh I agree. Uh >> we've lost presidents over this kind of talk.
53:08>> No kidding.
53:10Okay. Spain, get ready for a combination of lightning storm, earthquake with GMO locusts. That's what I say.
53:17>> Yeah, get ready.
53:18>> Get ready.
53:19>> Unless his job is to make because you know in Europe they don't want to keep this going. They want to have the appearance of giving a about Gaza while keeping the nonsense >> and maybe that's this maybe that >> so and then Okay. So then Netanyahu says Spain is slandering the most moral ar.
53:34You want to hear it here?
53:36>> Go for it.
53:37>> Uh >> oh, he's not talk. He's not speaking English. Okay. I got to I got Israel will not remain silent. He says >> against those who attack us. Really?
53:51So that's it. So any anybody who anybody who attacks us, Spain has slandered our heroes. He says the soldiers of the IDF, the soldiers of the most moral army in the world.
54:05Therefore, today I instructed to remove Spain's representatives from the coordinated center in Kiat Gat after Spain repeatedly chose to stand against Israel. Those who attack the state of Israel instead of the terror regimes, you are the terror regime.
54:27Those who do so will not be our partners regarding the future of the region. I am not willing to tolerate the hypocrisy and hostility. They're both calling each other hypocrites.
54:43Isn't that something? I do not intend to allow any country to wage a political war against us without paying an immediate price for it.
54:52>> Okay.
54:53>> Yeah. Well, that's that's called the most moral army in the world.
54:57Um, get ready for earthquakes and GMO locusts. Uh, and effage. So then then effigy was uh burned today. The burning of Jesus uh in Spain. It's an Easter tradition.
55:09>> This is a big Catholic country, ain't it? And they just they they held up that Easter thing and the church fed up with Israel. That's what this is about.
55:18>> Okay, so watch this. So here's a little bit. This is what they did. They burned him in effigy.
55:24This is what they're doing in Spain to Benjamin Netanyahu.
55:31So now if you did that in in New York, they'd arrest you for a right for hate speech.
55:40Look, they blew him. As Lindsey Graham said, they blew him away.
55:47>> Uh what's that?
55:48>> Nanyahu loves this. This is legitimacy for him to have anyone saying anything bad cuz it's such nonsense to go I won't let him slander the most moral army in the world. I know >> that's because he's about to go to prison the second he stops killing people.
56:00>> So with the United States blessing Israel expels Spain from Gaza military strategy center. Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu uh announced Friday he was ousting Spain from the US-led civil military strategy center in char in charge of maintaining peace in Gaza. Well, how they're doing a great job following Okay. Israel will not remain silent. We just read you that stuff.
56:26>> What are you going to do? Whine a lot.
56:27Uh from the start of the war at the end of February, Spain has reaffirmed the criticism of and disinvolvement in strikes against Iran, categorically denying claims that Madrid had agreed to cooperate with the United States. It also restricted the US military from using its air bases for operations against Iran, citing a violation of international law. Oh. President Trump threatened to cut off all trade with the European country in response to the airbase restrictions because he's he's such a diplomat. At the end of March, Madrid closed its airspace to US use related to the war, forcing US war plananes to reroute to avoid crossing
57:07over the country. Spain has been terrible, Trump told reporters in March, adding that he requested the Treasury Secretary Scott Pessent to cut off all dealings with the country. I'm convinced Trump did the kid now. I'm convinced of it. I'm convinced of it. He's not stupid. The things he's saying are so the opposite of what's true. It's like Lindsey Graham has terrible crimes that he has to hide forever. That's what Trump's doing. That he's not dumb. He's not getting bad advice. He did something horrendous that he doesn't want to come out.
57:38Most recently, Spain this week condemned Israel Israeli attacks against Hezbollah in Lebanon that killed 200 people and injured a thousand, reasserting that the attacks were a violation of both international law and now the twoe ceasefire.
57:53Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez called on the European Union to suspend its treaty. His contempt for life and international law is intolerable, Sanchez wrote on Twitter. Here it is.
58:04Just today, Netanyahu launches his harshest attack against Lebanon since the offensive began. His contempt for life and international law is intolerable. It's time to speak clearly.
58:14Lebanon must be included in the ceasefire. The international community must condemn this new violation of international law. The European Union must suspend its association agreement with Israel, and there must be no impunity for these criminal acts.
58:30The US created the multinational civil military coordination center based in Kirat Gat. Never even heard of that place in October to see through its peace plan in Gaza. Israel's foreign minister Gideon Sahar said he informed the US of the decision to remove Spain from the center ahead of Israel's announcement. The center falls under US Central Command. Spain's obsessive anti-Israel bias under Sanchez's leadership is so severe that it has lost all capacity to play a constructive role in implementing the peace plan of the president of the United States and the center operating under the framework of
59:08this plan he posted. But isn't it they always are the they this is the every the Zionists they call every self-defensive action and attack Oh, I love Israel so much. I just want to squeeze them. Jimmy, >> I know. Me, too. Uh, so for and here is uh here is Gideon Sar. He says, "For a long time, the Spanish government led by Pedro Sanchez has acted against the state of Israel by all possible means. Sanchez and his ministers hurl false and defamatory accusations against Israel and its army defame and incight against Israel and Prime Minister Netanyahu the government of Spain. Oh, we got a guest coming on
59:58uh blah blah blah. So, he's just going on during the war against Iran, it acted against our interests and those of our ally, the United States. Today I have decided in coordination with the is with the Netanyahu to notify Spain that it will no longer be able to blah blah Spain's obsessive anti-Israel bias under Sanchez's leadership is so severe that it has lost all capacity to play a constructive role. I informed our American allies in advance about this decision.
60:27>> You called Lizzy Graham, >> right? Did you did you call Lindsey Graham?
60:31>> Called Ted Cruz himself. took a trade to.
60:34>> So, uh, yeah, good for Spain.
60:37>> Wow.
60:38>> Good for SP. I don't care why they're doing it. Good.
60:40>> Yeah, that's true. I mean, it'd be nice to get condemnation like Iran had for um the, uh, you know, PDF file cannibalism of our country. I I like that Iran calls it out. It's weird that, you know, more people don't. The most moral >> most moral >> in the world doesn't bring it up.
60:55>> All right. Uh, if you like to hear my jokes about this, come see me this Sunday in Salt Lake City. And then next Sunday in Las Vegas and then Burbank, California on May 7th, special show. And then Tulsa, Oklahoma City, Spokane.
61:09Spokane, Washington. Or do you say Spokane?
61:12Uh, or do you say Coen? I say Koken, not cocaine. And Tacoma.
61:17>> I say Spokanei.
61:19>> I like to be fancy with it.
61:20>> All right. Now, we got to take a break cuz we're going to bring on our guest to talk about the tip of my penis.
61:26>> Oh, no.
61:27>> You know, they're putting up these data centers. We We're talking about this with Whitney Webb. There's a lot of horror surrounding them. They use up all the water in the in the area. It drives up everybody's electricity. All kinds of bad things. So, they tried to stop it.
61:41This is from Wall Street Apes. This is literally insane. So many people showed up to oppose a $6 billion data center in Missouri that they had to use bleachers.
61:51The whole crowd yells in chants they don't want the data center. Fesus city council voted to approve the data center anyway right in their freaking faces.
62:02Let's watch a little bit. Here's the Fesus Council approves a $6 billion data center plan despite public push back.
62:09>> Bill number 486 No dancing.
62:16>> No dancing.
62:22Vote them out.
62:26>> So CRG, the data center arm of area developer Clayco hopes to build the data center on roughly 360 acres north of Highway 67. And they're all chanting, "Vote them out." And they did it. They proved it anyway, right in their face.
62:42They don't care. Look how unreasonable these people are about having their land, water, and private information and power stolen from them.
64:25Hey, hey, hey.
64:29Heat. Heat.
65:07Hey, we got a special guest with us, Eric Klopper, Los Angeles-based attorney, litigator, human rights advocate. He founded Intact Global to protect children from genital mutilation. After writing the 2018 one-man play Sex and Circumcision, an American love story, he was terminated from Harvard University, prompting a lawsuit in a career shift into law and activism. A sumakum loud graduate of Colgate University with a degree in physics and economics, Klopper now represents clients in employment law, free speech, and civil liberties.
65:40Welcome to the show, Eric Clapper. Oh, well, thank you, Jimmy, for having me.
65:44I'm very uh pleased to be on the show.
65:46And as you mentioned, right now, my focus, at least in activism, is to protect every child equally from the harms of genital cutting, which primarily circumcision because that's still something that America struggles with, right? Although, >> but what first led you to research and speak out against infant male circumcision, especially your you you're Jewish, right? You have a Jewish background. I I I do have a Jewish background. So, I grew up as a Jewish American. And so, I I got it from both angles in terms of growing up in a genital cutting culture. You know, Americans cut their boys genitals and so
66:22does Jewish culture. And I, you know, always thought it was normal and it was healthy and, you know, that's what you do. Um, and then when I, uh, was playing on a rugby tour abroad, there was, you know, a fair amount of nudity and in that tour, drinking, you name it. And uh I remember seeing all these intact or uncircumcised Scots and I was thinking, "Okay, well, what's going on here? These penises look radically different from all the penises I've seen growing up."
66:52And I just started to look into it. And the more I looked into it, the worse it got. And it got essentially I discovered that it started, at least in the religious sense, because rabbis wanted to blunt the sexual organ of of their boys and their men, right? uh so they would focus more on let's say uh divine pursuits and the study of the Torah instead of you know satisfying those lascivious urges right and when you look at the actual anatomy it's very clear that the foreskin is a highly evolved structure over millions of years that has most of the erogynous tissue an article was just published saying that
67:33the male G-spot is actually the frenular delta which is under the head of the penis which is not surprising. It's the most sensitive part of every male. And so it's uh really damaging. And then I got into a really bitter dispute with my Jewish father over the propriety of my own circumcision. And I'm thinking, you have no idea what you're talking about.
67:52This is extremely harmful. I've I've experienced it myself. You can watch a child be circumcised. They'll scream their heads off. Some have actually burst their lungs and their stomachs from screaming so loud. It is one of the most painful experiences that men or individuals will experience in their whole life. And we're subjecting it to infants, defenseless infants. And if who if we don't speak for infants, who will, right? And so it is one of those rare issues in our, you know, culture where everyone can get behind it. It's just a matter of education and knowing what's going on, which is why I, uh, greatly
68:29appreciate you having me on the show to, you know, help enlighten your viewers.
68:34So, I've been thinking about this topic a lot lately also uh last few years and there is is there any therapeutic reason to circumcise?
68:47>> Well, it started in America about a hundred years ago and the medical reason for it was it made it more difficult for children to masturbate, right? And that was seen as the root cause of all illnesses and it was also seen as immoral, right? Against God's wishes.
69:05So, it actually started as a puritanical anti-masturbation uh uh kind of trend in the US because we have a for-profit health care system. It incentivizes procedures even if they're medically unnecessary. Um but no, if you look at the broader kind of numbers of sexually transmitted diseases, America has a higher per capita STD rates than the European nations that don't circumcise. And you could get into the biomechanics and as to why that is, why that isn't. Um but the fact that it has any medical benefit is just a meme. It's been it's been repeated so many times that people think it's true. But when
69:45you actually look under the hood, you realize, you know, I guess pun intended, um, that it's actually just damaging a very functional and normal body part and it impairs the ability for people to self-pleasure and have sex and nobody wants that. So, we should just protect our children and stop mutilating their sex organs. But no, there's no medical uh benefit and there's not a single secular medical organization in the world who advocates for it. And in fact, every single medical organization in the world advocates against it with the exception of the American American Academy of Pediatrics, which used to
70:25issue a very lukewarm recommendation which they retracted in 2017 because it's indefensible to recommend a medically unnecessary amputation on a child. Right. So they just there's no opinion in America. Yeah. So they don't recommend it anymore, even lukewarmly.
70:45>> No. In 2012, they issued this 27page uh uh and I go for 40 minutes in my Harvard presentation on how it's it's deceptive, but it's a 27page statement that concludes that the benefits of circumcision outweigh the risks uh enough that health care insurers should reimburse the procedure. So they're not saying that you should do it, but they're saying you should keep paying for it because this is a multi-billion dollar industry, right? The actual removal of the tissue and then selling the children's harvested genital tissues to various biomedical companies to put in skin care creams and burn victims and
71:27all that stuff.
71:28>> No kidding.
71:30>> Yeah, this is big business.
71:32>> So it so it's complete bunk when they say it reduces sexually transmitted diseases, right? So there there there really isn't there is no medical benefit to doing this. Yet they keep doing this because we live in a for-profit medical industry and that's why they're really doing it. Right.
71:50>> Yeah. Hospitals it's it's so it's regional like you know I'm suing the state of Oregon to stop on constitutional grounds but Oregon has like a 25% circumcision rate whereas some states in the Midwest still have like 80%. But if you look even break down the data more, it's you look around the hospital, hospitals have certain policies and they've done studies that uh some newborn mothers or some new mothers or expectant mothers are asked eight to nine times in labor whether or not they're going to circumcise their child, right? And there is a hospital policy to push this because the hospital gets probably 1 to 2,000 per procedure.
72:28Um the urologist gets paid. it gets often build to the taxpayers. So, we're using our tax dollars to mutilate our children. So, it's um it's really uh I think it's money uh driven right now in the US. And it's also culture because it the number one indicator whether or not parents want to circumcise their child is whether or not the father circumcised. And so, it's really just comforting for the father to have a son whose penis looks like his own. But in terms of medical eth medically or ethically it it it violates all more or less agreed upon premises that you shouldn't operate on healthy children.
73:07My my my father was not circumcised, but all of our all my brothers and myself was.
73:14And you know, I didn't get a saying that. And that's and the older I got, the more I thought about it, the more it angered me. And um uh yeah, there's and there's nothing.
73:27And so it are there. So So it it definitely impacts your sexual experience, right, in a negative way.
73:37um and there's no medical benefit to it ex and are there psychological damage done from having a being circumcised?
73:47>> Well, an easier way to look at it and the answer is absolutely yes, right? But the easier way to look at it is let's say you have two puppies from the same litter and one puppy you love and you care for and the other you abuse and you hit and you you know when they're those puppies are adults, they may look the same but they're not going to interact with the world the same. one is going to be a lot more defensive and apprehensive and potentially aggressive because of that violence. And the what we're talking about is some of the most extreme medieval torture that you can imagine on an infant, right? And there's
74:19actually studies that show that the way these infants respond to pain 6 months later after being circumcised is substantially different and more intense. So, there was a study of um recently circumcised newborn baby boys versus non-ircumcised boys and and females. And what they found is that those who were circumcised 6 months later when they had a vaccine, they had far more intense reactions to the moderate pain of a vaccine. And what that suggests is that the way that the brain is responding to pain has changed uh at least for 6 months and likely permanently at that plastic of of a stage. But when you actually talk about
75:01the procedure, right, we use euphemisms like circumcision, but what they do is they they restrain the baby, right? you know, >> straps here, straps here, straps on their legs with their genitals exposed, and then these medical professionals in quotes, >> they rub this iodine solution on the little penis to make it erect. So, they're stimulating the baby's genitals so it gets bigger and easier to grab.
75:24Then, they take a blunt probe, right?
75:26And they they jam it between the head of the penis and the foreskin, which is fused, as fused as my nails are to my fingers. So they tear those structures apart because they're supposed to be fused for 5 10 15 years because you're not using that body part until you know adolescence puberty when you're starting to quote unquote reproduce. So it's supposed to be fused. They tear that fusion like tearing fingernails and then they put a metal bell over the red raw exposed glands of the penis and then there's this contraption where they crush the foreskin after they put the detached foreskin over it with 10,000
76:03pounds of force. And this is we know there's there's been numerous studies hisystological studies studies of the anatomy that this is the most nerve dense part of the male body where pleasure is supposed to be received and you are torturing and mutilating this infant for five or 10 minutes and some of them have screamed so loud that they've burst their lungs and stomachs.
76:26I mean, this is truly one of the most painful things that could be imagined and we're doing it to infants on a mass scale in this country. It is it is an epidemic and it needs to stop and the rest of the world has moved away from it and we are moving away from it. We just need to move away quicker.
76:45>> It's, you know, I never really thought about it how they did it. I thought it was just like snip real fast. It was over and the baby cried a little and >> I didn't know that they restrained the like that. That seems uh like Epstein-like kind of torture for a baby.
77:01That just seems that is monstrous, is it not? How how does how can doctors, you know, do this? It just seems crazy to me. Do have you talked to doctors who've changed their mind about it after doing it?
77:13>> I do. There was a really famous one called Paul Fice. He was known as the ped pediatrician to the stars. He passed away not too long ago. And he said, you know, when he did circumcisions for maybe the first 20 years of his career, he didn't hear the baby's screams until he finally heard them and then he could not unhear them. And I think when you're in medical school, it's a very mercenary type uh mentality, right? You do what you're told and you know, if the baby's screaming, you know, he can't articulate his pain or cries or they're being fussy. It's just they compartmentalize it. But, you know, a lot of medical
77:53professionals now are are taking a conscientious objectors because it's indefensible. But, yeah, I mean, doctors, medical students, they do what they're told and it's a very hierarchal structure there. Um, I wouldn't do it, but I never went to med school. Right.
78:10Um, >> yeah, I Yeah, I know. I never went to So, you are now you're pursuing multi-state lawsuits. How's that going?
78:18Well, our first lawsuit in Oregon is going well. Um, we've So, essentially, these are constitutional challenges, right? Because everyone's heard of equal protection under the law. You can't give one race or sex certain statutory protections that you don't extend to everyone. Everyone needs to be equally protected. So, 41 of 50 states have a state law that says female genital cutting, female circumcision is illegal, right? It is outlawed. and that is great. But if you're going to pass a statute that only protects one sex, it's likely violating the equal protection provision of the constitution. And so Oregon has a
79:00express amendment to its constitution called the equal rights amendment where you are prohibited from discriminating on the basis of sex for various state laws. And so our argument is the anti-FGM law discriminates on the basis of sex in violation of the Oregon Constitution and as such the judge needs to either strike the law or expand it to protect all children equally. And um the judge seemed receptive to that argument.
79:27We overcame the motion to dismiss in Portland, Oregon. We had a full courtroom because the community is really behind us. that actually overflowed into the bar and uh the Oregon Department of Justice who was assigned to defend the law assigned five female attorneys. Now, that can't be by chance, but um but we beat all five of them and now we're moving towards a trial on judge a trial on the merits, which I anticipate we will prevail on because it seems pretty straightforward that the anti-female genital mutilation law discriminates on the basis of sex.
79:58Um so, the Oregon lawsuit's going great.
80:00We're about to file a Colorado lawsuit in the next few weeks. I'm looking for Colorado local council and uh if we raise more money and I'll sue every state in the nation, but um you know, I can only move as fast as we can move.
80:13There was very high caliber lawyering in Oregon. I felt really good about the pleadings and the research and we prevailed. So that's great. But um to do that level of that that caliber of legal work over and over and over again for each state, it requires a substantial amount of resources. And you know I I get lawyers like myself and others who are sympathetic to the movement, but it's still expensive to do. So um we do what we can.
80:39>> Why did Harvard get why did Harvard dis what what do they care about circumcision? What's what's their dog in this fight?
80:47>> Well, they care about PR and donations, right? very craven in that way. And so um they said they have no dog in the fight and you can give you a circumcision presentation. We won't retaliate against you. I worked for Harvard for eight years on and off on a physics textbook. I helped managing the language center and um you know I gave this two two and a half hour oneman performance standing ovation from hundreds of people in their Sanders theater about how we need to protect every child's right to bodily integrity and move past this anacronistic child abuse. And everyone's like we 100% agree with you. The student newspaper called
81:20it anti-semitic and then they sumearily fired me.
81:24>> So, >> of course that's the angle.
81:27>> Yeah, it's total total BS. But um it actually led me into a career of law which is the right place for me to be.
81:35So, you know, being a Harvard bureaucrat was great, but it certainly wasn't my highest calling, right? Um so, it is what it is. But, um >> and so, you know, if I think of it this way, right? Like if you didn't do it to babies and you gave 18y olds the decision to do it or not, do you think anybody would choose that? Of course not. Right.
81:58>> Zero. It's practically zero. Maybe 1%.
82:02So just that fact alone, there's an overwhelming inference that if you circumcise your child, you're violating his wishes. I mean, who wants a smaller, less functional penis? Right. Right.
82:13It's really Yeah.
82:15>> Yeah. Okay. Um, what uh what what didn't I ask you that I should what what kind of uh what kind of misconceptions do people have? What kind of gaslighting about circumcision do you encounter most often?
82:29>> Well, uh people think it's cleaner, right? They don't really understand that that meme is from they meant morally cleaner, like harder to masturbate cleaner, right? From the puritanical area era. Um some people think it's a little snip, right? when it actually is like a very invasive amputation that's exceptionally painful.
82:49>> Yeah. I didn't know about I mean just you explaining it was kind of overwhelming to me. I didn't know that they they tied down their hands and leg is gross. It's just it's nothing you it there's no other word for it than torture, right?
83:03>> Yeah. It's called a circumstraint. The board that they >> Oh my god. to >> Oh man. I mean, and you can watch them on YouTube. It's really harden.
83:14>> No. No. And you can hear them screaming and I've, you know, I've seen it before and I can't watch them. But like, but if adults can't watch it, why are we doing it to infants, right? Um, other common misconceptions, uh, you know, I honestly I'm known for, you know, being the guy to try stopping circumcision. So, the people I hang out with typically are, you know, already on board. But, you know, some people think it's prevents disease. Um, despite the evidence to the contrary, some people think that it's harmless. Some people think it looks better, right? Oh, well, I prefer cut penises. It's like, well,
83:52you know, if you have a penis, you can trim it however you want, right? But we're not tattooing our children or, you know, doing other body modifications.
84:01And in fact, those are expressly illegal, right? So, um, >> so are you, what kind of push back? I mean, you're you're uh you're Jewish. Do uh do you get push back from Jewish organizations? Do they have they tried to uh smear you?
84:20>> No, the only push back I really got was was after the Harvard I was like front page news for like two weeks, which is kind of cool at Harvard. They really really sought to destroy me. Um but uh you know recently uh none at all because right now the legal challenges well one I'm I've definitely I've definitely cooled down as time has progressed and you know I've developed in various ways but um uh currently we're not even addressing religious genital cutting.
84:51It's purely genital cutting in a medical context. And the reason for that is very legal in that if you are going to uh mutilate your son's genitals because your god tells you that is arguably covered under a different constitutional provision, the free exercise of religion provision, right? And that has a whole different jurisprudence and different rules that apply to it as opposed to the equal protection provision which we're focusing on because if you are cutting the genitals of a minor in a medical setting, there's no free exercise religion or free exercise constitutional considerations. So, we could sidestep
85:32the entire religious conversation and just focus on the secular genital cutting, which is at least 85% of circumcisions in the US. So, you know, this is a step-by-step process.
85:45When I was younger, I was a little more idealistic and that we could just make genital cutting illegal across the board. But now that I'm a little closer to how the sausage is made, so to speak, and how progress is made, um the most pragmatic and achievable step is to just address the secular genital cutting at first.
86:07>> Uh so what what are there stem cells involved? Do they extract stem cells?
86:17Well, the foreskin of a baby boy is the only body part that you can legally harvest, right? And it's the only body part that anyone can perform surgery on, even if they have no medical credentials. So, there's this weird exception for the most one of the most important parts of the male body that anyone can uh perform surgery or mutilate it, right? And so the same with the actual tissue from the infant male that that foreskin is valuable because it comes from it's it's neonatal tissue, right? So it has more stem cells. It's like less likely to have disease. It's the only body part you can legally
86:57harvest. And so what biomedical companies do is they they buy this tissue as you know after they circumcise the child which al also gives the hospital an improper incentive for this unnecessary and harmful procedure. But there's a there's a market for these biomedical companies to take this tissue and extract these skin cells and other stem cells and put them in various uh cosmetic and medical products. And this is a multi-billion dollar a year industry. So there's a major major moving force commercially to continue to mutilate our baby's sex organs.
87:36>> So is but parents at the end of the day they get to decide. The mother decides, right?
87:44>> Well, in some states I think it's both parents have to decide. But you know if you're a parent you don't get to decide what tattoos your child gets or how many fingers they get to keep. Right. So right >> we already have an incredible list of laws and norms where we restrict uh parental decisions when they are you know beyond what we would accept as a society and it is not unreasonable in my opinion and what all my advocacy is for is to restrict that from having a parent perform a prophylactic amputation on a functional sex organ. Right. Um and actually the Danes tried to make it illegal and Iceland tried to make it
88:24illegal and America came in at the behest of Israel and threatened them with economic sanctions and made you know put enormous political pressure on them. So >> why do they care? I don't understand.
88:38>> Well, I think it's uh I think it's probably Holocaust trauma. It's like, oh well, if they if we stop cutting our babies, then they're going to come for us next. And you know, it has nothing to do with that. It's about protecting children. And so that could be one of the reasons. Um, also if we start restricting medical genital cutting, then you know there'll be more scrutiny on religious genital mutilation. So it's it's kind of the slippery slope argument from the religious side is what I would imagine. Um, they don't really engage with me very much because they wouldn't, you know, farewell, right? And so
89:13most progenital cutting interest groups aren't really uh public in their advocacy because it's a very unpopular position.
89:22>> Okay. Wow. Well, I appreciate I honestly appreciate you doing this work. I I'm I I think it's more important than people realize, >> you know. I just wanted to ask something really quickly. like a couple months ago or whenever you know when Sandra Bulock was on Ellen she there was this big you know bruhaha that Sandra Bulock uses a c certain facial cream and it's called the Hollywood EGF facial known as the penis facial which involves serum containing epidermal growth factor EGF derived from the clone cells of Korean newborn baby foreskin these are the kind of cosmetics or whatever that they're using this for
90:03>> exactly Well, that's exactly what it is.
90:05It's uh you know, people who can afford $600 for a little uh vial of human infant foreskin to rub on their face. Um and maybe there's some cosmetic benefit, but I think it's just kind of trendy, right? Uh if you really want to do that, put snail snail mucin on your face. But like, could you imagine if I was like, you know, what really makes me shine is the the cut off labia of a female. You know, the the girls who are circumcised, we take their labia and then we repurpose them into skin cream. Yes.
90:42>> Right. That is that is a morally equivalent and morally reprehensible act. And Sandra Bulock got a lot of flak as she should because you know it's the actual end product and how it got there is so so separated, right?
91:00>> They're not showing you that baby, you know, restrained on a circumstraint with medical professionals making him erect and then cutting off the most sensitive part of his penis with 10,000 pounds of force as he's screaming and then all the the supply chain to that vial of cosmetics. Um, so you know, but I think that there's probably a uh there's a blind spot for how we are treating our male infants or there absolutely is. So, um, maybe she learned some stuff from the the flax she got on the internet, I hope. But it's it's really grizzly and we should not be doing that. It should be illegal actually.
91:39>> I agree 100%. Eric Kloppberg, thanks for coming on. It's good to talk to you and appreciate your uh your work. Thanks for your activism >> and a little pitch. Is this going on live or is this >> We're on live right now. Yes.
91:52>> Oh, fantastic. Um, so for those of you who are an inactivist sympathetic to the cause, Intact Global is having its second annual conference. Sold out the first one in Portland, Oregon. The second one is next week, April 18 and 19 in downtown Los Angeles at our headquarters downtown. If you go to intact global.org, you can find info for tickets. will be the biggest inactivist gathering in history as we continue to sue every state in the nation to ensure that every child is equally protected from genital cutting. So, thank you so much, Jimmy, for having me on and um hope we remain in touch and thank you
92:27for the good work.
92:28>> Okay, you too. Thank you, Eric. Over to Steph.
92:31>> All right. Wow. So much information and so disturbing and right. It's it's morally you just horrible. I can't even comprehend it. And it's like, you know, when you see somebody, of course, I like Sandra Bulock, you know, I I love her films. I think she's charming and everything. And then when I heard that, I'm like, like I kind of like dismissed it. Go, this is too horrifying. You got to be kidding me. Is Is it true?
92:58How would you How would you Yeah, I want more of that. I've got to I've got to like exploit a child so I can stay young and youthful. Gh, it it sounds so predatory.
93:12Okay. Right.
93:15John Johnny Man said, "I loved her last movie, Dick Face." I missed that one. I missed that one. Johnny Man, thank you.
93:22All right. Let's see here. A lot of maneuvering in studio right now. We've got my big dog is in here. Uh Betsy, we got some plumbing issues.
93:34I don't want to get into it. Hey, Soundchaser. The Iran Lego videos. The last couple days seem to imply that Iran knows something about Trump. Hasn't come out yet.
93:45Disturbing. Uh, let's do this one.
93:48Melania is an obvious robot, which makes her appearance with a robot incredibly ironic.
93:55And that's from 68. Bam Bam. Nice handle there. Bam Bam. What the f is all this East Wing, West Wing BS? I thought Trump had had the East Wing torn down. Rubber toe.
94:08Sadly, it seems as if Melani was sold to Trump as an egg donor slash surrogate mother. Keep your eye on Baron politically in the future. Antichrist, maybe.
94:21I remember when I first saw him, he looked like the original kid from the Omen. You remember that one? The Omen.
94:29Uh Roshack says, "You have the second amendment, Kurt. You can pressure these people anytime you want. Okay. All right. Back to Jim.
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97:14The Treasury just told you Washington's insolvent. You don't have to be.
97:18Okay.
97:20>> Alrighty. Let's read a little something, shall we, girls?
97:23>> All right. Let's get Kurt back in.
97:25>> All right. I generate my own facial cream. The skin on my belly has never looked better. My war.
97:34>> It appears they put aborted fetus cells in soda. What?
97:40Okay. Hem car. I will click on the link and we'll talk about that later.
97:46All right, let's see here.
97:50Uh, let's see. Next one. Where are we?
97:54Here. Uh, none of this madness ends without a sustained general strike boycott. Don't forget the declaration of non-consent. I sent you the real Dan Burroughs.
98:06I I don't think that's loud enough. I want you to hear it, Dan.
98:10Thank you.
98:11>> We stand with you.
98:15>> Uh, Tropical Rocket, thank you. I I put some like a hair growth on my hair last night and voila. They say it's going to fall out, but I kind of like this. And then we'll see what happens uh by show day. Let's go here.
98:33Melania wants a divorce. All American truther. Doesn't that seem like it that she >> It is I would say I would even want a divorce if I was Trump after this.
98:44>> Well, I I think I think Did she like give him cause >> Let's see here.
98:51>> I mean, this is really the worst time for you to be doing this, Melania.
98:55>> Uh >> I enjoy it as not being married to her.
98:58I'm all about it. Great job, Melania.
99:00But as Trump, I would hate it.
99:02>> Uh I see a cat fight skits in the near future. Oh, that would be funny.
99:08Uh, De's hair is beautiful. It might mentally break Misha and cause another violent outburst ending in a weekl long sunglasses being fashioned. You're right. It's going to happen. She's already tripped me once today. She said it was an accident.
99:23Let's see what happens to her. Lane, a >> lot of unbridled rage on the set.
99:29>> Yes. Vienticus, but women give birth.
99:32that means it's okay to do this to boys is an argument that I'm sure many women will say basically violent sexual be I don't I mean that's hilarious uh that I don't think women would actually say that that after they gave birth to their son they're like yeah I went through hell cut them I don't think so but I think they a whole group of people have to be educated and you know I think >> you've heard of people getting sand in their foreskin and it being one of the most painful conditions to live with especially in in the desert?
100:03>> No.
100:04>> Well, I just heard about that and I'm like, uh, you know, yet another reason I'm not too upset over it. But, I mean, I don't think there is a medical reason.
100:11I don't live in the desert. I mean, >> um, uh, watching a circumcision is traumatic on its own. I'll never forget the screaming, "Future intact."
100:21>> Yeah, it doesn't sound cool.
100:23>> Put the knife down.
100:24>> I'm sure I hated it.
100:25>> Step away from the baby.
100:27>> I blanked out my uh memories of it. I can't remember any part of it. future intact.
100:33I got an okay atagon. So I got an adult circumcision. There are some conditions like famosis where it is needed but it is not needed for most and getting it done as an adult is better because you have a say in how it's done. How about that? You know that's the same thing that we feel about children who want some sort of gender uh sex operation.
101:00And it's like, hey, your brain has to fully develop before you make these lifelong decisions because you're not you don't know the consequences of these sex changes. You don't know how much of a crisis it is creating in your long-term future.
101:18Especially problematic if you use the shaky the mo. All right. Thank you, Soundchaser. The foreskin has more This is interesting. I didn't know this. The foreskin has more capillaries, more nerve endings than the rest of the body.
101:32When a man penetrates a woman, there is an electrical reaction that creates a bond between you on a me metaphysical level. Chris Morell >> through through the foreskin.
101:41>> I think so. Because of allies feel true love.
101:46>> That's right. You're not able. You're dead.
101:47>> I'm not able to make certain connections with my foreskin. probably.
101:52>> We laugh at this, but what if Uh-oh, coughing happening.
101:57>> Well, why do they do it? There's no one's ever been able to give me a good reason. I've never heard a reason that's a good reason.
102:04>> Cuz Israel is our greatest ally, Jimmy.
102:07And Judeo Christianity is real and and totally not a demonic lie hurting everyone into hell for ball. Titus, >> I'm mad about having a Judeo-Christian penis with the the turtleneck tight taken off of it.
102:20Yeah.
102:22Uh, Spokane. I should be able to sue Spokane is pronounced Spokane, Jimmy.
102:27That's sue Sandra Bulock because she uses a face cream of Korean baby foreskin.
102:33>> Uh, the elites need their foreskin salads. Paul Smith.
102:37>> Is that what they're making salads out of?
102:39>> Foreskin salads.
102:41>> I knew it.
102:42>> By the way, Korea does circumcisions at age 12.
102:46>> What? Really? That's true? Yeah. So, it's not what how are you getting baby ones?
102:53>> Zionism being Jewish is a matter of nationality, not religion. This is why Zionists claim the state of Israel is the Jewish homeland. Any Jew anywhere is subject to Israel's first regardless of citizenship. Savage.
103:08>> Oh, like how you could never fully defect from the Soviet Union.
103:11>> Right. We were talking about that briefly on Wednesday. Literally 100% of their accusations are projections every time. Flick off.
103:22Kerb's best role on MASH 4 thou 477th is if you squint your eyes and look at Ker, you can see the Winchester is back, baby. Unvaccinated. I know you love the Winchester joke. I know you do. But he's just not Winchester to me.
103:40Um, wasn't Winchester the dad in um, uh, Better Off Dead with John Cusack? I think he played his dad Winchester.
103:47>> Oh, I don't know that. I don't remember that.
103:50>> If you ever saw Better Off Dead, >> now the unvaccinated guy back from war, Ker >> on his back in double lotus position is wheeled around on a skateboard as Jimmy pulls him around stage for beer money.
104:04>> Is that a haiku? That's not a haiku.
104:07That's too many verses.
104:10Is that a haiku?
104:12>> Oh yeah. You know what? That is a great time to do this. Ladies and gentlemen, I know you know what's going to happen next. You know, and I know that you know that. I know. We're going to Rumble, girls. We'll see you over there.
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