0:01What's up everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Julian Dorey podcast. I am Julian Dorey.
0:06>> And I'm Joey Dief. Hey there.
0:08>> How you doing?
0:09Well, Dief, we got nothing on the schedule today except maybe we're getting sued along with thousands of other people.
0:16>> Litigations?
0:17>> Little lit little litigation, little litty.
0:20>> Oh, [ __ ] >> Getting a little lit up here in Hoboken and it's not just us, it's a lot of people in three different countries.
0:25More on that in a few seconds. We are also going to talk about our dear friend and by dear friend, I mean insufferable [ __ ] Ghislaine Maxwell.
0:33>> Mhm.
0:34>> There's a little bit of that in the news this week that certainly needs to address because don't you think that went really under the radar like everything, Dief?
0:42>> It's just classic biz.
0:43>> Classic biz.
0:44>> Seriously.
0:45>> Just doing biz.
0:45>> It really is. It's biz.
0:46>> Blanche in there, do a little busy biz.
0:48>> Yeah.
0:49>> Right.
0:49>> Yeah.
0:49>> Got you.
0:50>> She's an asset now.
0:52>> And I Oh, she's an asset.
0:53>> Well, you know, we got we got to, you know, pardon this lady. She's an asset.
0:57She can give us some good information.
0:59>> Great information.
0:59>> Come on, biz, dude.
1:01>> That's right. That's right. Yeah, she's pure spec on that.
1:04>> pure spec. Pure spec. Pure spec.
1:06>> Anyway, I also did promise we were going to go through the Bilderberg thing this week. I'm sorry to blue balls everyone on that last week. We were just ripping on a few other things and ran out of time, so we will do that towards the top. And then yes, if you saw the latest episode number 413 with Lauren Conlin, she came in here for 3 hours and continued to break down the missing scientist case with us. She has been on this like since the jump, has been talking to family members around the country who are related to some of these people, also is doing a great job of separating some fact from fiction and
1:39ruling out some of these people, for lack of a better way of putting it, who probably aren't connected while also taking seriously things that could be connected, but there is more news hitting all over the place with that and we're going to get to some of that today as well as some of the new claims that are, in my opinion, [ __ ] as well.
1:57So, this going to be a mix. Going to be a mix on that. So, we got that on the schedule and then maybe a couple other things if we get to it. I don't want to promise stuff that we're going to run out of time on. But >> can't blue balls.
2:08>> Deef, let's start with the the man of the hour.
2:11>> Yeah.
2:11>> I did a friend of Paolo Zampolli.
2:14>> Mio amico.
2:15>> So, Paolo Zampolli, who has absolutely no Twitter PR game, decided to take to Twitter this week with the following announcement where he put in the caption basically what's said in the screenshot there as well. So, I will read it and you guys can see it on the screen.
2:30"Second notice to all media outlets. We confirm that legal actions" should I read this in his accent, Deef?
2:37>> No, read it read it read it straight yeah yeah yeah.
2:39>> Okay. "We confirm that legal actions are currently underway across multiple jurisdictions including the United States, Italy, and Brazil. Our legal team is actively identifying and pursuing all individuals, entities, and accounts involved in the dissemination of false, misleading, or defamatory content. Any media outlet or individual that publishes, supports, or amplifies such content will be included in a class action lawsuit and held accountable to the fullest extent of the law." As I said, this is targeting thousands of people and organizations.
3:12We are just potentially potentially one of them. So, what Deef and I decided to do was just go check as a quick bullet rehash from the last two episodes when we've been focusing on our friend Paolo.
3:25>> Yeah.
3:25>> All of the claims that were made as well as the things the commentary we had around it anywhere where we said pure spec hashtag pure spec, which means pure speculation.
3:35>> Which that that that that's immunity. As soon as you hear pure spec >> Yeah.
3:40>> Just saying.
3:41>> It is immunity.
3:42>> Just get it out of your >> Deef, I didn't even we didn't check this before, but I'm just thinking of this.
3:46Isn't there some kind of law related to public figures being I people employed in the public sphere like in the government >> Uh-huh.
3:57>> being fully on the table as What's the term I'm looking There's like a legal term I'm thinking of right now, but for satire, for fodder, for criticism, for >> like parody laws.
4:11>> things, right? There's There's laws related to being able to go at that. So, to be clear, there's nothing we said that is not fully backed by the Epstein files themselves or let me be even more specific by things surrounding the Epstein files like journalist posted with his consent New York Post articles as pointed out by Twitter's Kaz Catherine with full receipts. So, >> Hey guys, three quick things. Number one, if you haven't subscribed, please subscribe. It's a huge huge help. Number two, if you'd like to join my Patreon for early uncensored releases of the full episodes, you can join via the link
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5:00>> Just as a as a very quick rehash cuz you guys who've heard the last two episodes have heard this, but for people who are just catching up, here's what we had. Number one, Zampoli linked to Jeffrey Epstein and has previously done business with him. That is backed with quite literal proof. I'm going to get to Palo's own words on that in a minute, but if there was also an email by the way of young Jeffrey Epstein discussing Mr. Zampoli years after some of their business arrangements. Just want to make sure I hit this.
5:28>> Classic.
5:28>> Zampoli Epstein sent an email on February 15th, 2011 fresh out the pen as they would say to Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem who sounds >> Who's that?
5:41>> Well, >> What does he do?
5:43>> He's either a prince or a cab driver.
5:45Anyway, he says, careful. Zampolli is trouble.
5:50Lots."
5:51Jeffrey Epstein is calling you trouble, bro.
5:53That's not It's not a great look. Not a great look. But anyway, he has well-documented ties to Jeffrey Epstein when he was in charge of ID Models, he being Paolo Zampolli. That is on the public record. The one thing that we said as pure spec based on all of the litany of evidence surrounding this guy, Paolo, and his interactions with Epstein, more of which I'm going to cover in a minute, was the idea that he was trafficking models to Epstein.
6:26There is certainly a lot of evidence to support that, but he has never been convicted in a court of law, and we made very clear that that was speculation on our end. So, to the future judge watching this, your honor, I I'm sorry you have to lose brain cells listening to me, but I want to be very clear. We made that clear then. We're making that clear now. Mr. Zampolli has never been convicted of any such offense. It's just a lot of smoke around a fire, and we're allowed to comment on that. That's in the public domain.
6:56Anyway, >> Your honor, my client is Chinese.
6:58>> That's right.
7:00>> Throw it away.
7:00>> All right.
7:01>> Okay.
7:02Probably didn't help, but okay. So, number three, they did try buying Elite Model Management together. More on that that we haven't covered coming in a minute from >> Mr. Zampolli is on the mouth.
7:15>> Anyway, number four, Paolo in I as in ID Model as the head of ID Models appeared in Page Six multiple times a year, sometimes multiple times a month, per again Kazuo Catherine on X who brought the receipts. We put that in the last episode. I think we have one up thieves, so we'll have that again right here, but this includes November 1999. Zampolli had journalist Jared Paul Stern write about a night out where Zampolli introduced him to quote, his latest discovery, unquote, a 17-year-old girl who had just arrived from Australia only in New York at that point. There was also a claim in that document referring to a 15-year-old
7:53in in a separate article from the same era, where Zampolli spotted a 15-year-old ninth grader still attending high school in Miami. The paper described her as and this is the New York Post making this description, not Paolo Zampolli, as about to become quote, the world's most popular ninth grader, unquote.
8:10These are real things backed by full documents. There is the screenshot once again. We love having evidence.
8:18If you If Again, I said this last week.
8:20If you zoom in on the inspirational bar hopping article right there, you can see all these things quoted out. It's It's really beautiful. That's the great thing about evidence. There was also more Kaz Catherine content we had cited where it talked about the core four that Epstein had referring to the core four women recruiters that he had were also tied to Zampolli. At the very least, Adriana Muchinska, who in 2006, while being verified as working for Jeffrey Epstein at that time and in a legal capacity, I might add, was on the ID Models payroll at the same time. This is in the public record. Kaz Catherine
8:57also had the EFA number number number document for reference.
9:02>> article right here. I just pulled it up on the screen.
9:04>> Love that. That's great work. Seriously, shout out Kaz Catherine >> Yeah, 2006.
9:08>> on Twitter. You can go follow her over there. So, when we're citing that kind of stuff, obviously, that's backed to research and I really appreciate that.
9:16There was also the allegations report, which we made very clear. I want to say this was around the 25-minute timestamp last week.
9:24We made very very clear that these are allegations that have not been, as far as I can tell, pursued in criminal court, where in 2003, there were allegations against Paolo Zampolli having had a sexual assault at his hands that he did upon someone else. I forget what her name was. It was a Becca Day reporting and her name was Victoria Drake. Yeah, you got it, thief.
9:47Perfect. So, anyway, we also talked about how it was like weird diplomatic immunity claims because something occurred at the Department of State.
9:57>> Yeah.
9:57>> Yeah, we got into that. It got diplomatic diplomatic immunity claims, but then his position wouldn't give him diplomatic immunity. He was involved with Dominica at that time. So, there was a lot of weird stuff going on, all of which we do have the claims and backing for it.
10:14>> Correct.
10:15>> And there was also through that >> the revelation that in addition to all of his duties as one of the world's preeminent modeling agencies finding talent around the world, apparently including 15-year-olds. You know, that's That is what the New York Post said, so we'll reference that.
10:34You know, he also had time to be the ambassador for the oceans and the high seas. Was that what it was called?
10:40>> Oceans and the high seas.
10:41>> For the great nation of Dominica, which you and I had definitely heard of before last week. Give yourself that credit.
10:48But, he was doing that as far back as October 2013, and by 20 fall 2023 when those allegations came in, he was allegedly no longer acting in that capacity as of earlier that year, which would question any type of immunity he might have.
11:06>> Again, like who the [ __ ] has immunity?
11:09>> weird.
11:09>> In a place like that from a crime for a crime that is alleged to be what it was, it's certainly very questionable. But, then two episodes ago, the reason Paolo Zampolli, our dear friend, came up is because of his ex-wife, Amanda Ungaro, who is in, I believe it's reported, Rio de Janeiro right now after she was deported before facing trial for alleged felony fraud claim claims in America at the behest of Paolo Zampolli who called a senior official at ICE and these are according to many reports online from various outlets. So again, might not be true, but this is what people are reporting.
11:47Paolo Zampolli who is What's the name of that title again in the in the organization?
11:52>> Um special representative for global you know >> partnerships >> partnerships >> Right, that's his official designation in the Trump administration because people that Jeffrey Epstein finds to be trouble are just perfect to be hired into our government with our taxpayer dollars. Anyway, so we are going off the allegations of these reports as we said.
12:14But he allegedly called a senior official at ICE and said listen, you know, my ex My ex I don't like her and she is in the prison for fraud and she is not the of the green card the papers. You get her out of country. That's probably what he said maybe in the accent maybe not. I don't know. I don't know. We're going to find out in the video in a minute. But listen in the words of the great Selena Gomez if you want it come and get it Paolo. We got receipts. We've said what we got to say and I'm not going to back down along with again the thousands of other people who are sitting in the same seat we are
12:49right now.
12:50We're not going to back down from looking at the evidence and also discussing allegations and saying when things are pure spec. We we do a very very diligent job of that around here and I know all of our friends in the audience who constantly comment pure spec are well aware of that. So thank you to you guys for listening very closely when we do that.
13:13>> I was thanking them, yeah.
13:14>> I I I saw that.
13:15>> spec, dude. It's pure spec, Paolo.
13:18>> Right. So If I got a couple videos right there.
13:23Zampolli the first thing is Zampolli himself and he's speaking in Italian. so we're going to go with some of the caption right here. If you go up, I just want to read to people before they hear him talk. This is again from Kazoo Catherine giving a great write-up of the explanation of this interview that he is doing with RAI report, I guess it's called.
13:48>> TV, yeah.
13:49>> Right. So, Paolo Zampolli told Italian national television, this is from Kazoo Catherine, that he knew Epstein had very, {quote} young girls, minors, masseuses, {unquote}.
13:59And I want to make clear, he's saying minors.
14:04It'd be one thing to say young girls, people could say, "Well, maybe he's talking about 21-year-olds." Then he says minors. So, he is admitting that he knew Jeffrey Epstein had minors. This is a man, I remind you, he was involved in some level of at least potential business with. And I knew I knew he had girls, I knew, but they weren't mine because they weren't even models. They were young girls, minors, masseuses. The models were a cover-up for this Epstein.
14:30E erano le ragazzini, minorenni, massag >> Massaggiatrici.
14:37>> I actually don't know that word, that's a new one for me. There are four admissions in one statement. He knew Epstein had girls, not suspected, not heard rumors, sapevo, he knew.
14:46He knew that they were minors. He did not use donne o ragazze. He chose ragazzine, the Italian diminutive for young girls, then clarified with minorenni, the legal term for under 18.
14:58The literal legal term, I might add, in Italy. He knew what they were there for.
15:02Massaggiatrici, we don't That means masseuses. This is what the exact euphemism in Palm Beach police reports in the 2007 non-prosecution agreement in the Maxwell trial said. Anyone near Epstein's operation knew what massage meant. By using the words, Zampolli confirmed he did, too. He described the structure, le modello erano un cover-up.
15:23The models were a cover-up. You do not describe something as a cover-up unless you understand what is being covered.
15:29Where I might Let me Let me be fair and make an argument for Palazzolo and Poli right here.
15:36He may be referring to that legally in in the past tense, meaning he knows now it's a cover-up.
15:44Now, I think fair spec.
15:46>> Fair spec.
15:47>> I think he knew back then.
15:49But in a court of law I know he can afford a good attorney.
15:53They could very easily make that argument he's he's referring to in the past. I I'm sure he can hire Dershowitz, right?
15:59He can afford that bill.
16:00>> Yeah.
16:01>> Alan will argue this case all day. He loves these cases.
16:04>> He lives it.
16:04>> So, let's just go down a little bit and get him in his own words so that people can see.
16:11I just want I want people to get a feel for how Palazzolo interacts.
16:16>> Hello.
16:35>> That's him saying what we just described he was saying. There's another video there, Dief, I have where he talked specifically about the Elite Model Management claim when Jeffrey Epstein and and Palazzolo in 2004 allegedly made an effort as a part of a partnership, which may have included other people. I don't remember that detail, so let's be conservative and say it did. It wasn't just the two of them.
16:57Might have been just the two of them, but I don't remember that, so let's be clear. Could be more.
17:01But there was at least a partnership group that involved the two of them where they tried to buy Elite Model Management in 2004 and let's see what he had to say. Are there I forget. Let's see.
17:14Are there subtitles on this.
17:19>> Mhm.
17:20>> Epstein came to me because he wouldn't be able to buy it >> be able to buy it on his own.
17:26Because there were requirements for the buyer.
17:31Had to be someone in the industry. It couldn't just be a fund.
17:36And he talked to me about it.
17:38Then the whole thing fizzled.
17:41He didn't buy it and I lost the bid.
17:44There you go. All right, that's enough right there. So, again, he is confirming that that is a real thing.
17:51So, we have that.
17:55Dave, any final words for Paulo?
17:59>> Arrivederci.
18:04All I'll say is vaffanculo a persona che sicuramente ha fatto niente di male con Epstein.
18:12>> That's some good stuff. All right.
18:15I just don't I I I really got a problem with people who clearly have done stupid things in the past, okay? Let's not even call them criminal.
18:29Let's call it be conservative and call it stupid. Stupid associations, bad biz, all these types of things. I have a real problem with those people then finding a way to fail their way upward.
18:43And upon failing their way upward, getting into positions of elite power, even if it is a prestige worldwide sounding title he has in the White House. He's at least flying next to J.D.
18:52Vance to Iran [ __ ] talks.
18:54>> Yeah, he gets the perks.
18:55>> He gets the perks.
18:56>> Yeah.
18:57>> I have a problem with people like that taking their big [ __ ] boot, no pun intended, to the great nation of Italy and trying to stamp it down on people's faces for pointing out their past stupidity that they are trying to run from while hiding behind the power that they have.
19:12So, we will always call that out and I don't know. This guy really just pisses me off. Really, really something really, really skeevy about him and wrong. And like I said, when Jeffrey Epstein's calling you trouble, not good for biz.
19:30Not good for biz. To say the least.
19:33Anyway, Ghislaine, think she's getting pardoned?
19:38>> Uh dude, [ __ ] Um uh I'm trying to be a positive guy, but I just it's just not hasn't been looking good. I think she I think I think she's going to get the pardon, yeah.
19:49>> I heard this week this might be total >> total spec.
19:54>> but check this cuz I just thought of this. Someone said she's allowed to have a dog in prison.
20:01That might be completely made up.
20:04>> What that dog know?
20:05>> But I saw that in the background of my mind.
20:09>> She was allowed to play with a service dog at her minimum security prison.
20:14>> All right, that's not the same.
20:15>> Yeah.
20:15>> See, there you go.
20:16>> And then she got banned from the official puppy training program.
20:20>> good. I appreciate that.
20:22>> I didn't know we had those in prison.
20:23We're having prisoners train the dogs, huh?
20:26>> Well, I knew about that, but like the the claim of owning a dog in prison, that would have been a bridge too far for me. But she was moved from her prison as we well know months ago into a minimum security facility with all kinds of perks after having a meeting with Trump's Justice Department in 2025 discussing all kinds of things behind closed door about Epstein with one Todd Blanche who now happens to be at the time of this recording the acting Attorney General of the United States who we've covered this.
20:54He doesn't know about any claims related to Mr. Epstein and sex trafficking women and you know, and if he did, he would tell you.
21:04Nothing to see here, folks. But it Let's go to this first one. Ghislaine Maxwell sent a USB to the DOJ shortly after Melania, who was in the emails with Ghislaine, we've covered that in the past, came out with her statement. So, let's go down. This is from The Daily Beast, right?
21:21>> Yeah, there.
21:22>> Okay.
21:23So, Jeffrey Epstein's accomplice, Ghislaine Maxwell, sent a mystery USB drive to the Justice Department days after Melania Trump sought to distance herself from the pair's heinous sex crimes. The disgraced former socialite sent the USB on April 16th in a fresh attempt to quash her criminal conviction and 20-year jail sentence for helping Epstein recruit and abuse women and girls. While the details of the electronic files are not known, the timing of it, 7 days after the first lady delivered a surprise statement about Epstein and Maxwell, raised eyebrows across Washington. In her April 9th statement, Melania Trump denied any
21:53ties to Epstein's crimes and demanded that lies being spread about her must end.
21:57All right, let's go down. I'm going to skip some of this. So, goes through her email with Ghislaine. In a letter to Federal Judge Paul Engelmayer, Clayton Oh, I'm sorry. The mysterious USB was received this week by Trump prosecutor Jay Clayton, the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York, who Henry Abbott I think on camera had something to say about. In a letter to Federal Judge Judge Paul Engelmayer, Clayton confirmed receipt of the package and asked the court to give the government until June 5th to file a response. He did not outline details of the material Maxwell sent, but noted that her arguments appeared to be
22:30duplicative and meritless. Credit where it's due.
22:34I appreciate him saying that. Let's see if they end up backing that up and sticking to that. According to Clayton, Maxwell also cited about 50 exhibits to support her claims, but only 33 were included in the package. Come on, that's bad biz, lawyers.
22:47You got to do better than that.
22:48>> Boo.
22:49>> And he describes the initial review, yada yada yada. Okay, nothing else to see there.
22:56Basically, she's trying to get out. The second link I have there, I'm sorry, third link is from Comer.
23:04So, this is where it starts to get >> You don't want this second one?
23:08>> interesting. I I don't need the second one because it it the Daily Beast just covered it. But, US House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer says some panel members Now, this is in Congress.
23:22>> Um but >> are open to US President Donald Trump pardoning not commuting pardoning >> Dude.
23:32>> Ghislaine Maxwell to secure her cooperation in the Epstein investigation.
23:38>> That's why I say it, dude. Secure asset.
23:42We got Listen, we got to do this for her. She's going to be helping us.
23:47This is a security issue.
23:50Uh biz.
23:51Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father, as we well know at this point, is former scumbag super spy Robert Maxwell who died in very mysterious circumstances in 1992.
24:04>> they all do.
24:05>> 1991, I'm sorry.
24:06>> As they all do.
24:06>> As they all do, thief.
24:08But, Ghislaine Maxwell since before her father's death, but very specifically, shortly after her father's death was by Jeffrey Epstein's side.
24:19She was the chief recruiter of all victims of all ages from the lowest you know, most disgusting acts all the way to women who were of age who then got raped.
24:32This is a woman who referred to the 12-to-14-year-old girls that she would recruit in West Palm Beach for massages where they would be assaulted as new biles.
24:44She viewed them as human trash. This is a woman who had a clear sickness and also took part, according to many victims in some of the sexual assaults. I believe the Farmer sisters, if I remember correctly, were among some of the people who behind their names have officially made that claim. I want to say Annie Farmer, the younger sister, made that claim, but I'm remembering that off the top of my head, so please check me in the comments on that.
25:08This is a woman who has serious ties to being an espionage spy.
25:19Which means the same thing, obviously.
25:21But someone who traveled the world, gallivanted around the world, connecting with the most powerful people, and getting them into situations where beyond just taking pictures with them to blackmail them, where they would actually then commit heinous acts and be blackmailable targets for whatever means for whatever end goals she and the people she worked for had behind the scenes.
25:49This is a woman who was convicted in December 2021 for sex trafficking girls and women to no one, according to the government, as you know, the semantics of that case ended up playing out. Nonetheless, she was convicted.
26:08And a woman who no doubt had access to at least some of the largest secrets. I would I don't think I'm being exaggerating saying this.
26:22Some of the largest known secrets to mankind that exist today.
26:28For all of the lack of justice in this case and the lack of prosecutions and the lack of any ability to give the American people what we deserve, which is the ability for it to see powerful individuals answer for their heinous crimes and prevent something like this from ever stop from ever happening again. In it In addition to that slap in the face, if they pardoned this woman, Jeffrey Epstein's right-hand woman, it would be one of the most abysmal, disgusting, clear-in-your-face inside jobs ever perpetrated upon the American public and for that matter the public of the world. And so, I say unequivocally,
27:16I don't give a [ __ ] what information she promises she could give.
27:23I don't care what administration is in charge when and if something like this happens.
27:28If Ghislaine Maxwell is pardoned, it is not only a total disgrace.
27:34That is a That is a middle finger the likes of which are in a line with let them eat cake. If you know, you know.
27:48Annie Farmer weighed in on this, Steve.
27:50I have that quote. I think a victim should be heard on this. It and um that's why I'm remembering. I believe she was literally assaulted by a Ghislaine Maxwell herself, which makes this even more powerful.
28:02But, she said, "Before you consider a pardon of a convicted sex offender and trafficker, imagine explaining it to your wife, sister, or daughter. Could you live with knowing that you've chosen to put a felon who recruited, groomed, and threatened underage girls and young women above survivors? My sister, Maria Farmer, risked everything to report Ghislaine Maxwell, and I was asked by our government to be a witness against Maxwell at trial. A pardon is profoundly insulting and a deep betrayal. In the clearest terms possible, this move would be detrimental to her survivors. We ask the Department of Justice to permanently
28:31close the door pardon or commutation for Maxwell and instead open the door on a criminal investigation into the into the enablers of Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell's abuse." I retweet every single thing she said there. That's perfectly said from someone who had to see this horror up-front.
28:50>> Yeah, that's crazy. If she gets pardoned, that's the end of law as we know it.
28:55>> I agree.
28:57>> That's a good >> she does get pardoned, something tells me Alan Dershowitz is going to be around that case.
29:01>> Best believe that.
29:02>> That's pure spec, but something tells me he's got a direct line to the people that would be involved in such a thing.
29:11And Alan Dershowitz this week >> Mhm.
29:13>> made the news again.
29:15As he finds a way to do Finds his way into the middle of every story, don't he, Dave?
29:19>> Yeah, he knows good biz. He knows how to get it rolling and get it rocking. You got to go straight to the press. He knows the playbook.
29:27>> He does know the press playbook for sure. Certainly a a PR [ __ ] if you will.
29:34No insult intended. It's just pure spec that he's a PR [ __ ] but Apparently you have to say that. People are very litigious, Steve.
29:41>> Yeah, it's getting scary around here.
29:43>> It's like a trigger warning, but it's a pure spec warning.
29:46>> Yes, this show is satire.
29:47>> Yeah.
29:49>> Alan Dershowitz registered as a Republican, according to himself. And you know, he said the quiet part out loud when he did this. He listed off every way in which he is, according to every domestic form of policy a liberal Democrat, but said he had to register Republican for one reason.
30:11You want to take a guess what that reason was, Dave?
30:13>> Uh I can guess that it has to do with a country in the Middle East.
30:17>> That's right, a country that's not America, Israel. He said that the left has become synonymous with the worst policy for the safety and security of the country of Israel, which is not America and is not the country that he was born in. And because the right-wing seems to be so perfectly still bought off by Israel's interest, just follow the money there, he's decided that that alone is enough for him to register Republican. It harkens back to the late great Sheldon Adelson.
30:48Dave, whose wife Miriam is still around, but Sheldon Adelson once said he has one issue and one political issue only, Israel.
30:57But he was the biggest Republican donor of all time, or one of them, I should say.
31:01You know, I I just stuff like that is indefensible.
31:06You see the poll numbers on people below age 50 on the left and right.
31:12And how they feel about the government of Israel and their actions and their influence in America, attempt to influence America.
31:21>> Yeah.
31:22>> Numbers aren't looking good, people. So at some point you're going to have to read the room because especially the longer wars go on, wars that are not in our interest, which seem to happen again and again and again, you know, even older people are going to wake up. And we went through a poll a couple weeks ago where some of that's already happening. And when you're talking about older people, people in their 60s whose entire lives they've been propagandized to believe like Israel good, everyone else over there bad, you know, when some of them aren't even waking up, that's that's that's not a good
32:02harbinger. If if you're in the interest of the safety and security of Israel like Alan Dershowitz, I wish no ill will towards any country. I also don't wish any ill will between countries, completely unnecessary, unnecessarily where civilians are being killed in the tens of thousands as a result. And right now we see that happening with Israel. Also, I I I had this for the end, Dave, to maybe get to, but let's pull it up.
32:28There's a link there. The White House official explanation of Operation Epic Fury in Iran quite literally wrote the quiet part out loud, if you will. I mean, we already knew this. They've all Marco Rubio said this out loud when we did it. Mike Johnson said it out loud. Donald Trump all but said it out loud. But literally within the explanation of the war on state.gov/release/whatever da da da da da. I'm going to read this word for word. Epic Fury is only the latest round of an ongoing international armed conflict with Iran, as the United States has explained in multiple letters to the UN Security Council, including
33:04most recently on March 10th. This is what they choose to lead with. The United States is engaged in this conflict at the request of and in the collective self-interest, self-defense of its Israeli ally.
33:19As well as to exercise the United States' own inherent right of self-defense. That's just a little footnote right there.
33:27And you see the influence some of these guys have, and you see them saying these things out loud like Dershowitz who's got direct line to the White House.
33:34And you know, I I if if we get to a later, we'll talk about the Wall Street Journal report on some of the influence with this war. And I say it like that because the Wall Street Journal's owned by Rupert Murdoch, who is a very, very strong pro-Israel guy, who is one of the two people that was listed in the New York Times report several a couple weeks ago as being the key drivers behind the scenes trying to convince Trump to attack Iran. And those two people were Benjamin Netanyahu and Rupert Murdoch.
34:07So when the Wall Street Journal is reporting some of this stuff, whose literal owner is in the can for the opposite, open your eyes on that. But yeah, congratulations down Dershowitz on your new identification, whatever that means, and I wish you all the best. Also, one last thing before we get to Bilderberg and then the missing scientist, Steve.
34:28So we we have a new Fed chair coming in.
34:30Oh, is is is he a good guy? Did they run a vet on him?
34:34>> You know, let me be really clear. I don't know.
34:38I I I don't know. I Kevin Warsh, I wouldn't know him if I crossed him in the street. I haven't gone and looked at his old monetary policy in detail from when he was, I believe, on the Federal Reserve Board. I hope I got that right, but he wasn't in charge of the Fed, but I believe he was on the board.
34:54I don't remember any of his policies. I can't tell you if he's good, bad, or indifferent in that way. Couldn't tell you if he's a great guy behind the scenes or bad guy behind the scenes. No idea. But, what I can tell you is, again, I've said this again and again, the optics of the Trump administration in their hirings is laughably bad. Like, Biden's was so bad, we would get people that didn't even identify as a gender in [ __ ] roles with the nuclear codes, and then they'd end up stealing luggage at airports. If you know, you know.
35:25This is in a different way bad. And it whether it's a Palozian and Poli, or whether it's a Kevin Warsh. Kevin Warsh's father-in-law is Ronald Lauder.
35:36It's the first name is Ronald, right?
35:38Who's the head of Estée Lauder, who is also the head of Can we pull it up, Thief? I don't want to get the name wrong.
35:46The International something He's a He's a very, very pro-Israel guy. He is the head of an organization that was Let's Let's pull it up. I I I don't even want to I don't want to [ __ ] around with this.
36:01I have it wrong.
36:02>> Robert Warsh?
36:04>> No, it's going to be Ron Ronald Lauder from Estée Lauder.
36:13>> Yeah, I got >> He's the president of the World Jewish Congress. That's what it is. Sorry, I should have had that, people.
36:18And among the people on the board there are David de Rothschild.
36:25The jokes write themselves, people.
36:27Like, again, Kevin Warsh might have nothing to do with it.
36:31Might have nothing to do with it. Might not listen to his father-in-law at all. I know a lot of people don't like their in-laws.
36:38But, like, the optics of that when you're in the middle of people looking at this [ __ ] more than ever to put this guy out there optically. No disrespect to Kevin. Maybe he's a nice guy.
36:51It's just not smart. Or, as Beef would say, bad biz.
36:55>> It's bad biz.
36:56>> Really, really, really bad biz.
36:59>> I think it's just part of it, though. I think they got to just get everybody that's in the circle in where they can, you know.
37:07>> And it doesn't help >> back. Just saying.
37:09>> It's pure back, but it doesn't help that it's also the Fed, which is this >> Yeah.
37:13>> viewed as a disastrous institution that people got a lot of thoughts about, including its inception back in 1913, and they are right to have some of these thoughts. It is a place that has been responsible for inflating away the wealth of people, particularly since the 1970s, coming off the gold standard, for decades now.
37:33>> Yeah.
37:33>> And is a part of, whether it's on purpose or not, is up to you to decide, but is a part of the basic what I would describe in phraseology as legislating away of the middle class in the United States, slowly but surely.
37:47I've always referred to the Steven Pinker chart from Enlightenment Now and his book back in 2018, where he shows the separation of the middle class. And Steven Pinker, of course, is in the Epstein files, cuz [ __ ] everyone's in the Epstein files, god damn it.
38:03>> I just think that once they get all their folks in, then they can engineer another crisis if they need to.
38:09>> If they need to.
38:09>> Just in time for midterms or whatever it be.
38:12>> I don't blame you for thinking that. And speaking of engineering crisis, that God, you didn't even plan that. That was great. There was There was a There was a crisis meeting.
38:22This is what I blue balls people with last week. There was a crisis meeting in Washington, D.C. no less of the Bilderberg Group a week and a half ago.
38:32And there was only one as far as I could tell only one journalist outside this hotel in Washington, D.C.
38:41that was surrounded by a fence for a long time. More on that in a second.
38:44There was only one journalist covering this and I want to give this guy a huge shout out. Dan Dicks from Press for Truth, a Canadian independent journalist. Wasn't even from America.
38:52Flew into our country to do this. Shout out >> Respect.
38:56>> to Dan Dicks and he was taking videos all week, but this was the first time in 33 years.
39:03There's that number again, Beef.
39:05Where as far as anyone can tell from reporting the Bilderberg had had their meeting, I guess, moved up and viewed it as a crisis meeting and Dan Dicks was there with the scoop including he was taking videos from far away yelling at like Alex Karp who was apparently is a member of Bilderberg and was invited as along with the attendees there while he was leaving the hotel and giving a weird peace sign outside his limo.
39:30And there were some other people as well that he was catching. He might have been the guy that took the picture of the MI6 head whose like great uncle was a Ukrainian Nazi during World War II.
39:42Neither here nor there. But basically Dan Dicks was on this and so we have a couple links. We covered this in the bonus last week on Patreon and I said I would get to a publicly as well. So shout out to all you who waited for that. Also as a side note, I appreciate everyone who's on Patreon and YouTube members only. We do the early releases over there and we do stuff uncensored for the most part as far as like some things you do have to censor on YouTube like words you have to bleep out and stuff like that, but you know, they are all early releases. I like giving the people in the public also what they want. So special thank you to
40:16all the people on Patreon doing that, but I never want people to feel obligated that have to go to Patreon or members only. We put our content out in public so everyone can enjoy it. You guys watching the show is plenty of support right there. I I really really do appreciate that. I've said that since day one and will never stop saying that.
40:31So, thank you everyone, seriously. But, I believe he had the guest list, right, Thief?
40:36>> Yeah, it's Stacy.
40:38>> So, this is the guest list. Bilderberg Meeting 2026.
40:42It says confidential on the top right.
40:44This is a very official piece of paper and it's watermarked with confidential across.
40:49And it shows the list of participants.
40:50I'm just looking from far away.
40:52>> I met Stacy Abrams.
40:54>> Yeah, I see Henry Kravis's wife. Henry Kravis from KKR, his wife who is the chairman of the Museum of Modern of Modern Art. She's on there. These are people they have them listed on the left side by their country of origin. But, just looking across this do do do do do, who's on there that's really interesting? Mark Carney?
41:13Mark Carney from Canada, the prime minister?
41:15>> Who else you see, Thief? Uh it's François-Philippe Champagne. It's a cool name.
41:20>> That is a cool name.
41:22>> Probably not a cool guy.
41:25>> Piers back but >> Piers back. I'm >> Minister of France and national revenue of finance and national revenue in Canada.
41:33>> Sounds French. Another Canadian.
41:34>> Yeah, French Canadian.
41:35>> Okay. So, let's >> CEO of Stripe, Patrick Collison.
41:39>> Yep. Dan Driskill, the US Secretary of the Army. Nothing to see there.
41:44We're going to get to what the agenda was in a second. That's he also Dan Dix also got that.
41:48>> Who else is >> All right, we're on the next page right now. Scanning, scanning, scanning.
41:52>> Alex Karp.
41:53>> Alex Karp, as we said, is right there.
41:57These are people basically who are if I could summarize it, people from governments, people from media who are clearly on the inside, people from technocracy, major industry leaders, people from espionage, people from I said from governments, but also specifically like ambassadors, people that go around the world to other countries on behalf of a country.
42:19Let's go to the next one.
42:20>> Demis Hassabis, the co-founder and CEO of DeepMind from Google.
42:26>> AI company, okay.
42:27>> Uh this is the next page.
42:29>> Peter Thiel was there as well. I don't think we're at T's yet, but Satya Nadella, the CEO of Microsoft. These people were all like all these people were in a Washington D.C. hotel and no one was there.
42:43And then Dan Dicks took a funny video where the like temporary fencing they put up around the hotel was blown over by the winds and he was like it was God doing it to blow the cap off of all this corruption.
42:54>> Editor-in-chief of Bloomberg, editor-in-chief of The Economist.
42:58>> Yep.
42:59>> CEO of Deutsche Bank.
43:01>> The Economist was owned by the Rothschilds until about a month and a half ago. They sold It was partially owned by the Rothschilds. They sold I forget what their percentage stake was, but they did sell that stake. That's interesting.
43:14>> page.
43:14>> And then we see Rishi Sunak, member of Parliament and former Prime Minister of Great Britain. We see Peter Thiel, as I said, Fareed Zakaria, host of Fareed Zakaria GPS on on CNN.
43:29You know, the thing about this list is it is people from every race, alleged religion, though I would argue probably none of them have one, pure spec, and country and place and type around the world. They're very diversified. I will give them that. They're very diversified except They got to be.
43:48Except in one key metric, Deef.
43:51>> What's that?
43:51>> Anyone who is in any way not associated with an elite circle.
43:56They don't have any representative therefore of 99.9999999% of the Earth. These are all people who are of wealth, means, power, and interior circles where all of the places they show up have watermarks that say confidential and nobody knows nothing.
44:13>> Imagine they shot like a bus driver in there. It's like Mike Johnson, bus driver.
44:18Like, man, I'm just I'm just making sure they keep it within bounds, okay?
44:23That's all I'm here to do.
44:26>> That's good for ops. Do we have the agenda though, too?
44:28>> Yeah, yeah, check this.
44:29>> He's got it up. All right, so the agenda for Bilderberg 2026 was released.
44:35AI, Arctic security, cue all the pyramids underneath the Antarctica people out there. China, >> China.
44:44>> digital finance, energy diversification, Europe, global trade, the Middle East, Russia, we're covering most of the map at this point, Dave. Transatlantic defense industrial relationship, that sounds a lot like what Kiriaku said, arms deals, you know, that kind of that kind of business. Ukraine, which is still a war killing millions of people literally, still going on. USA, future of warfare and the West.
45:09>> The West.
45:09>> So, don't worry everybody, these people, these in some cases actually elected, I do have to say that, but in most cases unelected in an unelected forum are meeting in this hotel with some nice seafood towers, deciding what your future is regardless of where you're from around the world in war, not war, or going to be in war.
45:30Good luck.
45:31>> Good luck.
45:32>> Good luck.
45:34It's just crazy that they do this stuff right in front of you.
45:37>> What are we What What the hell are we going to do about it?
45:40>> Apparently not a goddamn thing except talk about it on YouTube.
45:43>> Buy another Labubu.
45:45>> Yes, buy a Labubu, maybe a Chia Pet for all times' sake.
45:48>> Uber Eats and get a Labubu.
45:49>> Yeah.
45:51Yeah.
45:52But the missing scientists, >> Yeah, dude, I feel like when we did it last week, we were like so like I was blown to the tits and I feel like now I'm just like, "Eh, this isn't as crazy as I thought." Like it's still crazy, but there's still so much to be said.
46:06>> There's three things to be said right off the bat. Some of the quote-unquote missing scientist in air quotes cuz not all of them are scientists are [ __ ] and shouldn't be tied to the story. I feel pretty strongly about that. Again, I said last week I hesitate to use the term rule out cuz I'm a YouTuber and it's like, "Yeah, all right. You're going to You're going to know what seat you sit in, pal." But like when you look at the evidence of some of these it's like I think there's a lot of things pointing to that's not connected.
46:33The second thing that's that is also probably true here that I'll talk about more in a second is the fact that this does feel like it is an attempt at making a story to be a distraction from the story that they tried to make a distraction for another story that they don't like. And those two stories I'm referring to on the distraction chain of everybody run over here, now run over here, now run over here are the Iran war which has been not good for the West and to this point. And of course the Epstein files which quick sidebar, I have been stopped on the street by people multiple times over the past
47:12couple weeks saying that they really appreciate the fact that Deep and I are still covering this at least a little bit every week and not letting this die.
47:25And I have really, really appreciated hearing that because I do my best to do the right thing and you know, we're entertainers, but we we're covering real [ __ ] on this show at on this specific show where Deep and I are doing this cuz we're covering the news cycle and stuff like that.
47:44You know, I have seen this die off in the algorithm. I have seen it be less than optimal to be the thing to cover for sure. It's not exactly the most monetized topic either. I don't care.
47:58I've looked at this case for 7 years.
47:59Everyone out there listening, you guys, many of you have looked at this case obsessively just like me.
48:05And we are all fed an algorithm that tells us what to look at next. And if there's one little small part we can do on our little corner of the internet to at least put something in there to where this story stays alive so that perhaps we can look back and say maybe if some justice gets done, we did our little part. You know, I I do take a lot of pride in that. So, I've appreciated the people who have said that. There've also been a lot of people in DMs saying that as well. So, that that is why we stay on that. And again, some of the stories we talked about this week, chances are you guys didn't even see
48:40that cuz all the other [ __ ] going on.
48:43And you know, it's like another story, another story, another story. And that's why with the distraction aspect of the missing scientist story, there's a lot of people jumping on this that I'll get to in a second, including from the government, that it just feels like they're excited to talk about this in a way where instead of being really actually concerned about national security, they're like, "Oh, we'll just throw a missing scientist over and over again. They'll stop talking about the disaster in Iran. And then maybe when they start thinking about that, they'll they won't even remember about that
49:15Epstein guy."
49:16You do have to say that here. And I think I said there were three things there. I just went on a long tangent, but if there was a third thing, it's that at the This is what it was. At the top of the pyramid of this missing scientist case, there's some concern.
49:33>> Mhm.
49:33>> With at least a couple people there.
49:35>> Yeah.
49:35>> That have disappeared.
49:39Actually, a fourth thing as well. I just remembered this. Fourth and fifth.
49:42They're kind of fourth, but we'll call fourth and fifth. Fourth, there's a few other cases that are allegedly coming up right now that we have to look at more.
49:52That be something or they might not.
49:54They might be just a part of the distraction to build it up. And fifth, also what could be a distraction here, got to look at this more. We're going to examine it in a few minutes, but there's also reports of I think it was at least seven missing scientists over the past couple years in China.
50:10>> China, yeah.
50:11>> Who have disappeared.
50:13And the reason why you have to say journalistically, well, there could be a there there with things like this is because when you look at the history of the world, especially since World War II, look throughout the Cold War and things like that, scientists were targets of countries like the US and Russia, USSR I should say for back then, and continue to be because of their brains and their minds and the things they have access to and the vital information as it pertains to national security that they could give you started taking their fingernails.
50:52Just saying.
50:54All right. So, let's start with Amy Esrig. We talked about her on last week's episode for about 3 4 minutes cuz it was just coming out at the time.
51:05And then Lauren Conlin and I in episode 413, which dropped yesterday by the time this is dropping on Saturday, we also discussed her and Lauren had similar reservations as Deef and I do having been able to review it more after last week's recording.
51:26First of all, when the Daily Mail came out with the headline, 11th missing scientist linked to case, they made it sound and it was Amy Esrig.
51:36They made it sound like this was a brand new death or disappearance. Amy Esrig, to be clear, died by suicide in 2022. So, it was not That was a misleading kind of thing, which again adds to the distraction narrative here if that is a real narrative. But, we watched a video with Lauren Conlin.
51:56There's another I'm going to play in a minute that we didn't watch with her.
51:59And there are many videos floating around of Amy Eschridge cuz she did interviews and talked on the internet before she died.
52:05Where it is so so clear that at the very least she was abusing all kinds of substances, which maybe some people say, "Oh, your life's in danger for real, you end up turning to things like that." Possible. But, she had alleged history of schizophrenia and serious serious issues.
52:27And furthermore, someone I know well spoke to someone extremely close to her last week who was unequivocal that A, she did actually commit suicide.
52:45And B, her work was not nearly as serious as she tried to say. She was not an idiot, to be clear. Amy was actually heavily educated within We read off some of her education last week within science fields.
52:59And that was really her life interest.
53:01But, you know, her father basically set up a for fun company for her to feel like she was LARPing.
53:11And those those are my words to play that way analytically. But, Lauren Conlin couldn't find government contracts. We thought that was what we were looking at last week. Again, the case was just breaking when we were recording.
53:26But, you know, if there's something else there, I'm happy to change my mind. I just don't see it. There there is a the first link, you have it up deep here. So, this is this is an example of an Amy Eschridge video where she's in a static panic claiming her hands were being targeted by a direct energy weapon just 1 month before she was found dead from a gunshot wound to the head. This is from Right Angle Network on Twitter.
53:51Let's play this.
53:53>> My My hands have been burned to hell and back as I've been typing.
53:58Cuz you can beam me through the air and through or through there.
54:02And you can get a 3D image of what I'm typing.
54:04>> are you sitting in that room?
54:05>> Cuz this computer doesn't have a Wi-Fi card. You can't hack it. But you can maybe get a 3D image of me typing.
54:11So like we just did that and did that as an act of as an act of pure desperation.
54:21And guess what?
54:23I feel better immediately. I feel better immediately. Like my hands still burn cuz there's damage.
54:30My hands still burn cuz there's damage, but but it's like my body relaxed when we barricaded this [ __ ] >> All right, that's good. I I'm to be clear, I'm not trying to be disrespectful to someone who has tragically died. I have to look at this stuff in as balanced a way as I can and look at what facts we can see and if they're leaning a certain way, I'm going to say that.
54:57And so I I personally think hers is blown out of proportion again.
55:03I'm happy to see new evidence brought forward, but I don't I feel like she probably wasn't having a lot of conversations with Hal Puthoff, which I think she was like alluding to having had some engagement with him, you know. And I don't know Hal Puthoff might be an awful guy. She might be right about that, but like she was over shooting her chops, if you will.
55:28So again, that's that's not the best look on a case like this. There's also the video of Rep Burlison. When it you know, again, there are some huge stories that people want out of the media right now.
55:42And by people, I mean people in our government. So, when you have congressmen jumping all over this and making huge claims, especially about someone like Amy Eschridge, yeah, your red alarm bells should be going off.
55:55Here's Rep. Burchett talking about talking about, I believe he's talking directly about Amy Eschridge if I remember correctly.
56:00>> these 11 scientists, there's some outliers, certainly, but each one has a very mysterious and unique case. I think Amy Eschridge, her case is somewhat of an outlier, but it's worth investigating. I mean, we had Michael Shellenberger come to our hearing back in 2024, and in his testimony, he provided information from a researcher, Frank Milburn, who was a retired UK intelligence official, who Amy had reached out to and asked to investigate some of the harassment, some of the weird things that were happening with her, and he determined that she was the victim of a directed energy weapon, and that she was likely murdered by a US
56:39aerospace company.
56:41>> Okay.
56:42He's also citing Michael Shellenberger, who basically went on Joe Rogan and and made an ass of himself two months ago talking about Epstein and having gone through the he wrote articles about it, having gone through the Epstein files. Oh, he had no he wasn't an intel agent, all this stuff.
57:01It was you know, people throw around that term controlled opposition online. It's impossible to not look at what he was saying and and think that. And I saw there was a good 11 10-11 minute clip, I think it eight 10-11 minute clip I saw of Rogan and him going back and forth, and you know, Rogan's helped his career a ton. He's had him on the show a bunch over the years.
57:25And Rogan was getting, righteously so, pissed off because Shellenberger was just trying to shut him down, cut him off, and say there's nothing to see here.
57:34Get away from it. And when you look at the people Shellenberger's tied to, Peter Thiel, you know, it's not it's not great look. So, when you have the congressman citing him right out front, immediately red flags are flying. Yeah. Immediately. Like, yeah, okay, so they're going to blow up this one, but not Epstein. Interesting.
57:54Interesting. I'll keep note of that.
57:55Annie Jacobsen, who's a phenomenal author who I'd love to have on the podcast someday. We've tried. Never been able to do it, but, you know, she's written some incredible books, Operation Paperclip.
58:08In the past, she wrote the book about DARPA. She wrote a book that I didn't read. I believe it's about Roswell and some of the other weird things that aren't talked about with that. And then she just wrote a book about nuclear war that she's been over the past year going on a lot of shows talking about.
58:29But, she said on Twitter, I think the missing scientist will become part of the coming White House UFO release, the real intention of which is to divert from foreign affairs and the Epstein files. And she cites an article that was in The Atlantic where it was talking about, you know, the case for this just being a giant distraction. And you do have to throw that out there.
58:51I've talked about the shiny object in the past being UFOs. Trump very conveniently saying that a week before the Iran war, and then McCaslin disappearing a week after he said that, you know, right before the Iran war. It That's that's where it's certainly is sketchy at best, and you know, just a news media cover-up at worst, I guess is how you would say it.
59:16But, there are a couple cases coming forward.
59:20One that I'm not going to talk about today is the I never remember how to pronounce his name. The Leavensberger case from New Year's Day 2025 which Shawn Ryan had done a big podcast on right after that happened. I still got to look more at that. There's people trying to connect that, but there was a lot going on there that was like, I don't know.
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