0:01Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to the Grey Zone.
0:04Here with Aaron Mate as usual.
0:08And we have lots to talk about, but Aaron uh you are are you on the West Coast now?
0:17I'm on the West Coast.
0:19All right. I'm on the West side.
0:22>> [snorts] >> I was out there a couple weeks ago and the jet lag actually is kind of underestimated like it it hits you.
0:30Especially on the way back. It also is a reminder when I'm out there I was in the Bay Area of how much DC sucks.
0:39>> [laughter] >> Like you just don't realize what you're missing out on.
0:46Um I know that feeling.
0:48>> [gasps] >> Yeah, I mean the weather's just always bad here. The the people, the politics.
0:54But uh this is this is this is where I'm from.
1:00Uh you were at in Vancouver at Web Summit, right?
1:05Yeah. Uh for people who follow us who've been following us for a while you might remember that uh 4 years ago in the fall of 2022 Max and I were invited to Web Summit, which is the world's biggest tech conference. And after we got to Lisbon >> In Portugal, in Lisbon, Portugal. Yeah.
1:24In Lisbon after we landed in Lisbon we were canceled uh at the assistant at the insistence of the first lady of Ukraine uh Volodymyr Zelenskyy's wife and a number of other Ukrainian officials who basically told Web Summit that if they let me and Max speak, then they would be destroyed and they would basically mobilize all the event's major spot corporate sponsors to pull their funding and their support because the first lady of Ukraine was a surprise speaker and she couldn't tolerate appearing at the same event with us even though of course we were, you know, it's not as if we were going to be center
2:00stage. We were we were just doing some some side panels that maybe a few hundred people would attend, but our mere presence was enough to cause this uh meltdown and we got canceled uh because the Web Summit had to choose between basically, you know, free speech or survival of their [laughter] event.
2:16So, they chose survival and uh but I got invited back uh for this week's event, which was held in Vancouver, my hometown, and um I spoke and I spoke a little bit about our cancellation and uh how, you know, you know, like this climate of conformity uh of of propaganda and censorship it can happen, but it but it never lasts because eventually the truth does come out and ever since then, of course, everything we've been saying about the Ukraine proxy war, about the way Russia was provoked, there were so many reasonable, peaceful opportunities that the US sabotaged, all that has been borne out by the facts, including the
2:52admissions of people working in Zelenskyy's government. So, I think it was a lot easier to uh hold space for us now. Uh and so, yeah, I I came back and did a few events at Web Summit. Yeah, we we we could actually even uh quickly cover that. That's the Yulia Mendel interview, Vladimir Zelenskyy's former press secretary, taking [snorts] to Tucker Carlson after spending several months ranting about Zelenskyy's refusal to make peace when the Ukraine proxy war has become so unpopular among Ukrainians. Yeah. Uh we [snorts] spoke in Toronto first at Web Summit.
3:31And for those who don't know or just tuning in, Web Summit is the largest gathering of tech. So, you have the AI warlords involved in this conference, the major tech companies, all the tech influencers, tech startups, they're all there. And what where are they making their money? War, surveillance.
3:54Uh you know, ushering in the Skynet regime.
3:58Evil stuff.
4:00Men a lot of evil stuff.
4:02And then you have the head of Web Summit, the CEO, who's sort of a rebel and is from Ireland, has the sort of Irish Catholic instinct for not liking military occupation, not liking militarism.
4:18Paddy Cosgrave, who is the founder of a great anti-corruption publication called The Ditch.
4:24Uh our friend Shay Boaz comes from there and many other good journalists. And so Shay invited us to kind of offset the militaristic atmosphere, I guess, back in Toronto.
4:35And I thought it went very well, although we pissed off a lot of mainstream media Beltway hacks who were at our event.
4:42And they invited us back. Zelenskyy's wife basically threatens to I think she said I will like I will like pull off the uh The the tablecloth. The table yeah. I'll I'll like basically turn over the dining table if you let these uh two scoundrels speak.
5:01And you know, tons of military contractors were there, so it was threatening the entire summit. Then but then I think one thing we should mention is the next year October 7th happens the Gaza genocide begins and Paddy, the CEO of Web Summit, accuses just mentions, I think in passing, that Israel was committing war crimes in Gaza. And so for that, he's actually removed as CEO and they bring in this lady who's like this veteran CIA adjacent spook uh who's now at NPR. I What's her name? I forget, but I yes, I'm she she had a uh an interesting resume.
5:40And it was so weird that she was being brought in to replace the founder. And and what he you know, at first of all I I I laughed when he was canceled because of course he had canceled us. So, yeah.
5:49I thought there was some So, I thought that there was some karmic justice there. Even though whatever, I wasn't mad at him at all. I understood why he did it. He had to save his conference.
5:55But, he gets canceled for the most benign tweet. All he said after October 7th was like war crimes are war crimes no matter who commits them. It's something really, really benign like that. But, because he said that there was an outrage and he had to step down.
6:08And so, yes, this um this this individual who Yeah.
6:14Yeah. Who like what who also knew nothing about tech. Like she had no tech background whatsoever, but she was connected somehow to the NED or something or Yeah, I mean she had this whole history of um you know, we we we went off on it. We were one of the first to expose her at the Gray Zone. So, I'm pulling that up right now. But, she was involved with like um many of the NED uh cutouts and uh National Democratic Institute. She was involved in the early days of the Arab Spring in North Africa.
6:49Um and then she went on to the Wikimedia Foundation where she basically turned helped turn Wikipedia into a regime change intelligence bulletin board that allowed uh a small coterie of editors to smear us. That's why we went after her because you know, our entries yours initially and I don't know if it still identified you as a conspiracy theorist. Uh they're just like complete hit jobs. So, anyway, yeah, she replaced him, Katherine Maher, who's now at NPR. And it's obvious she's kind of some imperial information war operative.
7:29And now Padi's back, I guess, and he was wearing a drop site hoodie on stage. He was hosting you.
7:36Uh I guess there was some late night session with you right Was it you, Ryan Grim, Cenk Uygur, and Stephen Walt?
7:45>> [laughter] >> And there were like some fireworks there? Well, Stephen Walt walked off the stage because Cenk was so annoying.
7:53>> [laughter] >> And but to his credit, Cenk was being annoying about Israel. He was basically going off, you know, like Cenk is a very colorful uh colorful character, as you might remember from when he called me a a Russian asset. Yeah, that was what was happening. Um anyway, he was but he was going off actually in a way I appreciate it cuz he was ranting about >> Cenk's on a new algorithm now. Yeah, he is. He was ranting about Israel, calling it a terrorist state.
8:18And Stephen Walt, you know, Harvard, you know, academic, very prominent, he I don't think he wanted to be associated with that. It was also in a really no- noisy bar. It wasn't quite a scene. So, he just walked off the stage.
8:28It was really funny.
8:30>> [laughter] >> It was really funny.
8:32Yeah. Yeah. So, Stephen Walt is the co-author of the Israel Lobby with John Mearsheimer.
8:39And Mearsheimer, I I don't think he would have walked off. He's much more outspoken on this, I guess, but that's that's interesting.
8:49Uh it it it but it does sound like this like a sign of the times that 2 years ago or was it 3 years ago? Almost like like 2 and 1/2 years ago, Paddy lost his job for making the most basic statement about Israel committing war crimes. Now it's almost it's it's now accepted at the by the editorial leadership of the New York Times that Israel not only committed war crimes, but that it has a essentially a systematic policy of raping Palestinian prisoners in its tortured dungeons.
9:31And there are protests of Zionists outside the New New Times offices, something I never thought I would see.
9:38So, the the the zeitgeist is definitely shifting. The times, they are changing.
9:44Yes.
9:44The at least the conversation is changing.
9:48I mean, it doesn't mean like, you know, the contractors who are going to destroy humanity at Tech Summit are going to be placed under citizens' arrest upon arrival. That's what we're hoping for in the next at the next one or next in the next 2 years.
10:05But, uh at least the conversation is changing and you are welcome there.
10:10Um very interesting. And Patty's back in his job.
10:15So, yeah, we wanted to talk about this this furor over an issue that we had covered very intensely here. I think we were first or among the first out of the gate along with Mondoweiss and Electronic Intifada when in November 2023, Israel rolled out, along with its proxies in the US, the hoax of mass rape being committed on October 7th.
10:44And we immediately called it out for what it was, a hoax, while others, including those who would later come and expose it, no names no need to mention any names, uh gave it some you know, considered that it had some substance and believed some of the some some some components of it.
11:09Uh we were vindicated. I think we were strongly vindicated.
11:14Then we set out to discredit, because it was it was bogus, the uh March 2024 New York Times front-page feature, Screams Without Words. Mike, just a question.
11:31It was earlier than that. It was It was Screams Without Words was either late 2023 or early It was earlier than March. Just a small correction.
11:40Okay. Yeah. Uh It might You're You're right. I think it was December 2023. Yeah. So, it was sort of timed They might have a new date on it because it's been updated so many times kind of surreptitiously.
11:55But, it premiered in December 2023. Yes.
11:58Yeah. That article by Jeffrey Gettleman has been discredited from top to bottom.
12:04I think we were, you know, first out of the gate, but others have done a great job of exposing the many lies, the the shady sourcing, the corrupt characters behind it.
12:19Uh one of the the lead Israeli author, who is sort of the the the main reporter in the field whose task was to try to go to every rape crisis center in Israel looking for victims who turned up nothing there, was fired because of her long record of genocidal or pro-genocide social media posts, and she had never done journalism before this. But, I think she was sort of the fall guy or fall girl for Jeffrey Gettleman's failure to actually produce anything factual. And Jeffrey Gettleman is still employed by the Times. He has a very prestigious job.
12:57When When in if there were any minimal standards of evidence of journalism, his name would live in infamy in mainstream journalism as a complete fraud. Cuz that story, as you said, from top to bottom was a scam.
13:10Starting with the fact that the like the the young Israeli woman who they featured as the symbol, in their words, of Hamas sexual violence, her own family, who was also featured and actually manipulated into being a part of the story, they even said there's no way she was subjected to any sexual violence because they spoke to her right before uh she was killed. So, from top to bottom that story was a scam. It still has not been retracted and and now it's an open secret that it has no credibility, but the Times has stood by it because still that narrative was so important to the genocide uh and so
13:43important to the narrative portraying people of Gaza as barbaric and and uh therefore not worthy of of making a a peace deal with, not worthy of making a a ceasefire deal with, but worthy of being exterminated.
13:56Yeah.
13:57And so I thought that was pretty much the end of it because it was getting so ugly for the New York Times that they actually had to conduct a staff-wide investigation focusing particularly on Muslim staffers uh who were leaking to the Intercept at the time about the retraction or um withdrawal of a New York Times podcast highlighting this story.
14:25Um what was the New York Times podcast?
14:27I forget the name.
14:28The Daily, I think.
14:29>> The Daily. And so what they were doing is they were trying to build this article up as something Pulitzer-worthy.
14:35And so the Daily was going to be promoting it and playing the PR role.
14:38And the people behind the Daily said "Well, we don't want to promote something that's fake." And then these leaks started coming out that they had done that. And that was sort of the first leg of the table to fall out because obviously no one could credit us and say well well, these guys got it right. Um what wound up happening is, you know, other media organizations like the Washington Post started attacking us.
15:04The Biden administration was I I think was behind some of those attacks using like intelligence proxies like um the National Contagion Research Institute, but that's another story.
15:16I thought that was kind of the end of it. I I I I um on the anniversary of October 7th, 2024 published a documentary called Atrocity Incorporated that explained how all of these atrocities were concocted and weaponized October 7th atrocities by Israel and in the Zionist movement and using mainstream media to disseminate it to manufacture consent for genocide to get the public to shock the public into at least supporting the initial phase of destroying Gaza.
15:50And you know, by that point it was very well understood Israel was committing genocide. But here we are two and a half years later and the New York Times finally decides to tell a side of this story that we all knew that grace the gray zone's audience certainly knew which is that Israeli soldiers had been sexually assaulting actually raping Palestinians who they kidnapped from the Gaza Strip and were holding hostage in dungeons like the uh torture center at Stay Te'aman in the Negev desert. And you know, this was reported for example in the Patrick Kingsley piece and this this was the one in March 2024.
16:36But like they buried it in the 15th paragraph and the article wasn't front page so Israel didn't release the hounds in the New York Times.
16:44But they were revealing what we knew and you know, this what was already apparent in reports from the Israeli human rights group at Salem, Amnesty International uh certainly uh Euromed Human Rights Monitor and other Palestinian groups and just common Palestinians were coming forward with these stories which is that Israeli soldiers were raping Palestinian men with batons to death and beating them to death of course under orders from Itamar Ben-Gvir, the security minister and that dogs were being used as instruments of sexual assault and humiliation and that this testimony was coming forward from so
17:22many sources.
17:24The New York Times finally this past week publishes a piece by Nicholas Kristof uh someone who I criticized harshly over the years because of his condemnation of Palestinian resistance including you know unarmed resistance and uh support for regime change wars but someone who fashions himself as sort of a human rights reporter and it's published in the opinion section.
17:50And this ignites a furor among the Zionist movement the internationally. Aaron what what did you think of that article its placement and the credibility of it?
18:03Well as you pointed out the fact that it's placed on the op-ed page and not the news section speaks volumes. First of all why is this only being reported now?
18:12Why is it relegated to the op-ed section not the news section? The fraud screams without words by Jeffrey Gettleman that was a front page news story back in December 2023 containing zero uh purported survivors of sexual violence.
18:28Zero people actually claiming that they were victims of it whereas Nicholas Kristof found more than 10 people who were willing to speak to him on the record including naming some of the Palestinian victims who were sexually assaulted. So why is this in the op-ed section? Why is it taking so long? And another thing I noted is that you know Nicholas Kristof as he's prone to do goes out of his way to cater to the Israeli narrative about their claims of Hamas sexual violence on October 7th and he asserts that as fact in the beginning of his article just to establish his I think his his so-called credibility to the Zionist
19:02audience because you know some people are under the belief that you know for people to listen to you have to cater to their narratives even if they're false, and whether Nick Nicholas Kristof believes in the Hamas rape claims or not, he goes out of his way to defer to them. But, one thing I thought was interesting. Usually, when you're making an assertion about something, especially if it's, you know, controversial and and certainly like a like an explosive allegation, what you will do is link to a source that that confirms your case or that substantiates your case. So, but what I noticed about Nicholas
19:39Kristof is in his in his opening sentences when he talks about, you know, we we should all condemn Hamas's sexual violence on October 7th.
19:46We should all be against it. Normally, what what The New York Times would do is link to its own reporting cuz they were the most high-profile outlet in the US to sort of put forward this claim. But, he doesn't. He doesn't link to Jeffrey Gettleman's article.
19:59And that to me is a tacit acknowledgement that they know it's a fraud. They They just don't have the integrity to to acknowledge it, but if you believe there was Hamas sexual violence, why wouldn't you link to your own paper's so-called reporting on it?
20:13And that's I think they don't do that cuz they know that Jeffrey Gettleman put out a fraud. So, that was interesting.
20:18Um but uh that aside, it's an important article.
20:23The testimony is harrowing, and again, it's important to note that unlike all the claims of Hamas rape on October 7th, Nicholas Kristof has actual victims speaking on the record about what they endured. Whereas >> Actual survivors. Actual survivors.
20:38Whereas the in the Israeli narrative, there's none cuz it's all made up. Uh and so, that's an important contrast. And if you look at the the Zionist meltdown about this, uh sort of like you'll hear the constantly the the like them saying, "There's no evidence. There's no evidence." Except for uh testimony from 14 people. And as if and as if that doesn't count because they're Palestinian, essentially. Uh and uh and some people are even some Zionists are even saying it's it's all it's 14 people who clearly hate Israel. Yeah, if you live in an occupation and if you're raped and sexually assaulted, you're
21:11probably going to hate the perpetrator.
21:13Yeah, I mean, well, can't they find people who were viciously raped by prison guards who love the prison guards? They would be much more credible, wouldn't they?
21:24And come on. So, yeah, 14 people, they interviewed their family members, they interviewed their acquaintances, they obviously had a much higher editorial standard and a much higher editorial threshold that they had to cross here than they did for Screams Without Words.
21:42Um That is sort of the beginning of the That That was sort of the beginning of the New York Times element of the story, but, you know, again, we've been covering this for quite a while and um >> [sighs] >> Is there something new about uh about StreamYard here?
22:12Um >> [snorts] >> Cuz I'm trying to put elements on screen.
22:17Which clip do you want?
22:19Um Yeah, but how might How do I add elements? I've lost like the the They have They have a whole new format here.
22:26Um I can do it if you just tell me which one you want.
22:29Okay.
22:30Well, this is strange.
22:34Very strange.
22:37We're missing uh Here we go. No problem.
22:40All right. Yeah, we're we're we're My brain is back.
22:44Um Well, we we we covered the pro-rape riots that unfolded across Israel, and this is what they looked like and I'll and and I'll remind everyone why it happened, but this is how we know that Nick Kristof story is legitimate.
23:02These are Israeli settlers and reservists attempting to break into a military base where five Israeli prison guards are being were being held in 2025.
23:15This was happening all across Israel. It was a major crisis, political crisis uh for the Israeli government.
23:25And the five Israeli soldiers who were being held there were going to be put on trial because they I can't show this video because I don't want to be demonetized or suppressed any more than we are, but video emerged of them actually sodomizing a Palestinian detainee who happened to be a medical professional, a doctor with a with a with a metal rod.
23:49This is what they were doing again and again.
23:52And they became national folk heroes for uh Israel supported by the Israeli government. Like one minister after another in the Israeli government called for their release and one was even turned into a kind of like TV star.
24:10A folk hero. This is him, Mayor Shitrit being They're like, we're going to welcome him to talk about his experience of being prosecuted on our show. He didn't even have to hide his face.
24:22This is Channel 14, the pro-Netanyahu network.
24:29Like he's just like a guy, you know, he's like one of them.
24:33That was like the lead rapist, caught on camera.
24:40There wasn't any doubt that this was taking place inside Israeli society.
24:45Uh you know, there is footage of Israeli soldiers boasting about uh raping detainees.
25:00Like not even hiding it.
25:03You showed up with a weapon. You showed up with a dog. Who is this dog? This dog is Django. He's with me on every military operation. He was in Gaza. The hilltop dog. That's what my mom calls him.
25:15The pair of Nukhbas in Sde Teiman did a lot. So, he's referring to Hamas's commando unit, the Nukhba unit. Sde Teiman being the main torture dungeon where all of this rape took place on a systematic basis in the Negev desert in Israel.
25:31Don't say the things that he did.
25:32There's video already. Referring to the video that I referred to.
25:39>> [laughter] >> So, I mean What what what what what what do you mean don't say the things that he did there?
25:51Um it seems pretty clear what they were hinting at. Um you know, as I said, Israeli ministers not only support they not only supported those soldiers.
26:04They actually supported their practices.
26:06Um this is a scene from inside the Knesset.
26:10There's an incident right now in Sde Teiman. They're talking about the controversy over those soldiers where the military police came to arrest soldiers who were guarding the Nukhba terrorists.
26:23From Sde Teiman.
26:25Military police came there to arrest some of the soldiers there.
26:30And because of allegations regarding the treatment of the Nukhba terrorists.
26:36And there's an incident of soldiers refusing to leave.
26:39The insanity that our country is having around this story is crazy and we need to stop it. He's talking about the pro-rape riots that were erupting across Israel.
26:48And they actually broke into I think the Ministry of Justice as well. It was like a January 6th style riot.
26:58And I call on the coalition members to condemn this. This is like one of the, you know, centrist or center-left members of Knesset.
27:10I'm not going to vote on this story and this insanity.
27:17Unless they're going to arrest soldiers.
27:18If they don't know, he's he you know, he's actually saying he condemns uh the arresting of soldiers for things they're doing to the Nukhba terrorists.
27:29Okay?
27:38To insert a stick in a person's rectum, is that legitimate?
27:45Yes, if he is a Nukhba terrorist, everything is legitimate to do.
27:52That's all I wanted to know.
27:54And he's saying, "Do you know what these people did?"
28:00So, yeah, he's there there there's, you know, is elected Israeli officials on video supporting the practice of rape.
28:08So, I I just don't think there can be any debate.
28:11And one thing, Max, you know, like you heard those comments there where he's calling out the prosecutor for going after these soldiers, and the prosecutor was indeed hounded and essentially either threatened with arrest or like the prosecutor like was harassed and um was almost driven to suicide if I remember correctly. Yes.
28:35Uh her name is Yifat Tomer-Yerushalmi.
28:39Uh she was arrested for leaking the video. She leaked the video because the process cuz she could not secure a prosecution of these soldiers and because the government kept pulling back after the pro-rape riot.
28:53So, she said, "Uh the only thing I can do is leak the video." She was identified as the leaker.
29:00And she attempted suicide and disappeared for several days.
29:04Uh she was found and placed under house arrest. Yeah, there you go. The soldiers have been returned to duty.
29:13Uh here, I mean, just for anyone who doesn't believe me, this is the Times of Israel.
29:19Not exactly uh anti-Zionist publication. Ex-IDF legal chief hospitalized after suicide attempts, police commissioner confirms.
29:31Yifat Tomer Yerushalmi admitted undergoing assessment, police asked to apply house arrest conditions in hospital, said to be seeking to seize passport. So, the only person who got prosecuted here was the prosecutor who attempted to prosecute the rapists.
29:46That's Israel. That's Israel. That's it.
29:49Yeah.
29:49Yeah.
29:50Yeah.
29:52Um So, yeah, they're melting down over this. They know they did it.
29:59They just need to And when I the Israeli government knows what they were doing.
30:03Because the security minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir, gave authorization. He films himself torturing or appearing with the with the tortured Palestinian detainees.
30:15He's the most fanatical person to ever serve in the the most one of the most historically fanatical racist governments in human history.
30:24He, at his own birthday, appeared with a cake with a noose on it. Gifted to him because of his bill that he just successfully rammed through the Knesset to execute Palestinian detainees.
30:38Netanyahu knows what's going on.
30:41But Netanyahu has to do this for his international this hasbara which is he threatened to sue the New York Times.
30:51Today Today I instructed my legal advisers to consider the harshest legal action against the New York Times and Nicholas Kristof. They defamed the soldiers of Israel and perpetuated what else? I mean, you knew they were going to do this. Blood libel about rape trying to create a false symmetry between the genocidal terrorists of Hamas and Israel's valiant soldiers.
31:10Israel will not be silent. Truth will prevail. Blah blah blah.
31:15He's instructing his I mean, you have to pay close attention there. He's instructing his legal thugs to consider legal action. Can he even sue the New York Times? I mean No, I mean, that's all I need to know is that word consider. It means he's not going to do it. The idea of Israel voluntarily submitting its record to a court of law to scrutiny in a court of law it is a joke. I mean, even if he could sue the New York Times, there's absolutely no way he would. Unless maybe they're going before a military tribunal.
31:44At say a Tim Horton's or something like that, you know, if you can get them into the Israeli court system. That's maybe the only way he would do it. Um but yeah, it's but of course, everyone's going with this and thinking that this is actually going to happen. They're really convinced the New York Times is going to is going to be forced to retract. And there have been people putting out false claims about the Times is in disarray over this that they're panicking.
32:07>> Yeah, David Shuster of TRT of TYT TYT.
32:12I forgot who he was, but he's a former MSNBC anchor and now he's with TYT, I guess. Yeah. Uh and he's he was claiming that sources were telling him that the Times is panicking and it's it's all a complete lie.
32:24Um the only problem with the Times is that A, they're way too late to the story and B, that they had to qualify it by parroting the uh October 7th mass rape hoax. That's the only problem with the story and then when it comes to documenting the sexual assault and rape of Palestinians, of course, as you've just been laying out, it's corroborated by Israeli officials uh themselves, uh as well as videotape.
32:49So, on that front, case closed, and that's why there's no way we'll be seeing Israel take any kind of legal action about this.
32:56No. Uh also, because Netanyahu, as Glenn Greenwald pointed out, who's actually a lawyer, Netanyahu is libel-proof.
33:05And what it means when you're libel-proof is your reputation is so substantially and comprehensively destroyed by your own documented actions that you cannot demonstrate libel in any court. Netanyahu is wanted by the ICC for the crime of genocide. There's a warrant for him. Not that they'll ever be able to uh act on it with the complicity of Europe and the United States, but it's there. The ICJ has ruled that Israel should stop committing genocide.
33:39Netanyahu's own um office has published video of him with the US ambassador, Mike Huckabee, boasting of his assassination list, which Mike Huckabee thanked him for not including his own name on.
33:54Uh I don't think he can sue. Israel would lose sovereign immunity in a if it went to a US court. And the greatest thing, and why I hope this defamation lawsuit actually goes to trial, would be discovery.
34:09Because the New York Times and its lawyers would bring out the reality of that video the video of Israeli soldiers raping a detainee.
34:20There's so much evidence. They would be able to call so many witnesses. It would sort of be like the trial, the closest we could get to the trial of Benjamin Netanyahu, which needs to happen, and which needs to happen in a body that can guarantee a Nuremberg-like ending for Benjamin Netanyahu. This is what humanity demands. This is what humanity is crying out for. This would is what would sat would help ease the pain of humanity that Benjamin Netanyahu and the Zionist regime have caused to it, but that might not happen. But if they go to trial, we would at least get the satisfaction of seeing Netanyahu and his
34:57team of thugs, including probably Alan Dershowitz, the guest at Zorro Ranch who said he kept his underpants on on on Epstein's massage table, they would actually be humiliated to their faces and forced to be confronted with the crimes that they have committed the most heinous crimes against Palestinians who were kidnapped and held hostage in torture dungeons like State of Mind. So, I hope this goes to trial, but I don't think it will. This is just bluster from Netanyahu.
35:29It will definitely not go to trial for all the reasons you just laid out. Uh and one thing I think it's also important to point out is that this is not a recent phenomenon for Israel. It's not as if this is only exclusive, you know, sexual assault, rape of Palestinians is exclusive to the, you know, this ultra fanatic uh element of the Israeli government that that currently rules it. This is a part of Israel since its founding. Um and today as we're broadcasting this, we're broadcasting this on Nakba Day, uh marking the uh Palestine catastrophe, the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, the theft of their homes by Zionist
36:07militias. And, you know, it's it's dated to 1948 officially, but it goes back even way before that. Um and Muhammad Shahada, who is a a a Palestinian analyst from Gaza, has just put out a great video. I I recommend people watch it.
36:21It's about 20 minutes, but it's worth it because it, you know, it's a series of Zionist leaders from David Ben Gurion to Yitzhak Rabin admitting to some of the crimes they've committed since Israel started. That includes rape and sexual violence. And so, I want to play a clip of of Muhammad's video uh for you guys.
36:41We need to harm them without mercy, women and children included. Otherwise, this is not an effective reaction.
36:49That's AI.
36:50There is no need to distinguish between guilty and not guilty.
36:55And Yeah, that's an AI voice of David Ben Gurion, but but quoting his actual words. Real quote. Yeah. He knew all the gruesome details >> [music] >> as soldiers perpetrated his vision.
37:07Battalion 22 arrested a man and woman.
37:10They killed the man, washed her, and then 22 men gang-raped her.
37:15There goes monetization. incident. Here is what hardcore Zionist historian Benny Uh say it again, Max. I said there goes monetization, but >> [laughter] >> but Morris said, "When asked about how many rape cases took place in 1948 in Acre, four soldiers raped the girl and murdered her and her father.
37:35In Jaffa, soldiers of the Kiryati Brigade raped one girl and tried to rape several more.
37:40At Khunin, which is in the Galilee, two girls were raped and then murdered.
37:44There were one or two cases of rape at Tantura, south of Haifa. There was one case of rape at Qula, in the center of the country.
37:51At the village of Abu Shusha, near Kibbutz Gezer, there were four female prisoners, one of whom was raped a number of times, and there were other cases.
37:59Usually more than one soldier was involved. Usually there were one or two Palestinian girls. In a large proportion of the cases, the event ended with murder.
38:08Because neither the victims nor the rapists like to report these events, we have to assume that the dozen cases of rape that were reported, which I found, are not the whole story. They are just the tip of the iceberg. When a New York Times reporter discovered one of the massacres.
38:24David Ben-Gurion did exactly what Israeli leaders do today when the IDF is caught red-handed. First, he denied it, and then issued a public apology saying it was a mistake.
38:36But 3 months later, he included the bombing that resulted in the murder of five Palestinian children in a list of successful operations.
38:47So, this is a small illustration of how, you know, on top of ethnic cleansing, murder, rape, and sexual violence has also been a part of the Zionist project since its founding. And I recommend people watch that full video from Muhammad Shehada. It's It's excellent, and it just features more Israeli voices like that admitting to what they did. And by the way, Benny Morris, who he's quoting there, who's an Israeli historian who in the Israeli archives confirmed a lot of these atrocities, he supports them. And his only argument is that they didn't go far enough because not every single Palestinian was
39:19ethnically cleansed, just most of them.
39:21Because the because he said that during the Second Intifada, he said, you know, we still have this problem inside our own society of not of Palestinian citizens of Israel.
39:32And you know, we need to to get rid of them all initially.
39:36He started out on the left and wound up on the right. He's sort of like the Zionist version of the Phil Ochs love me or I'm a liberal uh scenario. I mean, even Israeli media's covered it. Assassinations, terror attacks, and even castration, the hidden actions of Israel's pre-state militia before 1948.
39:57Uh they published this on the 100th anniversary of the formation of the forerunner of the Israeli army, the Haganah. And this is a article from 2020 about something I've known about for years, which was uh a castration of a Palestinian taken captive in the village of Lubia by Mandate Palestinian Mandate Palestine era Jewish militias.
40:24And uh that was not the only incident like it.
40:30So Israeli media knows about this.
40:32Israeli historians know about it.
40:35Israelis know it.
40:37Um most Israelis supported at least bombing children and entire families for uh while they were sleeping in their homes.
40:54An Israeli Democracy Institute poll from November 2023 showed that only 1.8% of Jewish Israelis thought Israel was using too much firepower in the Gaza Strip. So it kind of logically follows that they would also know about and support other horrific practices. Yet uh Zionists in the in North America refuse to acknowledge that any of this could possibly be taking place.
41:21Or they're cynical enough to acknowledge it, but they're trying to take the weakest component in their minds or what they think the most outlandish claim >> [snorts] >> made in Nicholas Kristof's report is and to highlight that and use it to deflect from everything else. And that would be the use of dogs in um abuse.
41:45And here's David Frum, your fellow Canadian, claiming that uh he called up the American Kennel Club to discuss with them the anatomical possibility of dogs being used as an instrument of sexual torture against humans. And he said, "Meanwhile, the quote Jewish rape dogs hoax has been refuted not because it's a slur against Jews, but because the American Kennel Club attests it's an impossibility for dogs that they attest that.
42:13First of all, I don't really consider this a slur.
42:18Like, no one's talking about just Jews running around with rape dogs.
42:22It's the Israeli army, which he considers to be synonymous with Jews.
42:26That's what they all do.
42:28Uh Brandi Mundin from the American Kennel Club, who's the head of vice president of communications, said that they have not issued any such statement and have no position here and that David Frum was just completely making this up. Wow. Can you David Frum corrected by the American Kennel >> [laughter] >> I mean, I I didn't think he could sink any lower than he has over the course of his you know, of course, he's the infamous off author of the axis of evil line in Bush's uh speech trying to make the case for attacking uh Iraq and Iran. Uh he's uh supported every single regime change war, genocide supporter,
43:08now corrected by the American Kennel Club. Um another thing to add to his resume. Wow.
43:16And thank you to uh Ashna Asha Krishnaswami Asha K for calling up the American Kennel Club, too, fact-check David Frum.
43:25That was in response to her.
43:28So, as the meltdown continued, a few hundred um unhinged, mostly elderly Zionist maniacs showed up outside the office of the New York Times for a right-to-rape rally. This is what it looked like.
43:46[ __ ] YOU!
43:49[ __ ] YOU!
43:51I ACCUSE THE NEW YORK TIMES OF BLOOD LIBEL!
43:57SEND OUT YOUR REPORTERS!
44:00SEND OUT YOUR REPORTERS!
44:02YOU NEED TO FIRE YOUR REPORTERS. YOU NEED TO YOU NEED TO FIRE KRISTOF! FIRE KRISTOF! FIRE YEAH, JEW HATRED AT THE NEW YORK TIMES.
44:20They really They really hate Jews there.
44:25And the And the They're, you know, the Emile Zola slogan.
44:36Total meltdown. I mean, just very unhinged behavior. I'm really glad they did that. Uh it would have been much uh better for them to take some very disingenuous liberal-seeming humanitarian position that these bad apples should be investigated by Israel's court system, which is a democracy.
44:59And instead, they, you know, the prime minister of Israel threatens a lawsuit, they hold protests, and declare blood libel, and as I pointed out on X earlier today, if a Palestinian journalist had exposed these crimes inside the Gaza Strip, they would have assassinated them and killed their entire family because they've done this over 200 times in the past 2 and 1/2 years. This is the treatment of a uh very prominent affluent American journalist who was even considering a run for governor or Senate in Oregon, where he lives.
45:35Um unhinged behavior.
45:39And [snorts] then the the the other PR move that Israel made, and I don't know how much time we should spend on it, but we should do some debunking, was they rolled out this {quote} {unquote} civil commission report, which is a very long report, which looked like it was rushed to print as Israeli intelligence gained wind of the coming Nick Kristof article and they pushed it out the same day or the following day through their assets at the Daily Mail which is like a favorite publication for every Israeli hoax or Israeli accusation along with the New York Post run by Rupert Murdoch.
46:26And the Civil Commission report was basically an instrument for deflecting from this by compiling and recycling all of the discredited second and third-hand eyewitness accounts and allegations of bonkers Hamas sex crimes on October 7th.
46:44It was just they put everything in there.
46:48And many or most of these allegations had already been discredited solidly and debunked by us including the most discredited allegations from the New York Times screams without words article.
47:01Things that other Israeli groups that were determined to turn October 7th into a propaganda bonanza on the basis of mass sexual assault would not even touch. Like the Dina project which is a more academic and seemingly credible organization than the Civil Commission wouldn't touch a lot of these allegations.
47:23And yet they did it anyway.
47:26And every mainstream media organization took seriously the Civil Commission report.
47:34And and you remember who is um responsible for this. This is the the the the head of the Civil Commission which wasn't even a commission was basically a fundraising mechanism for herself was Kohav Elkayam Levy.
47:54And she was actually exposed in Israeli media for being a fraud and a grifter who um was you know exposed in Yedioth Ahronoth, Ynet, the largest Israeli newspaper uh for spreading fake Hamas atrocity tales, failing to deliver the the civil commission report for years.
48:20And according to one Israeli government official, people have been have disassociated themselves from her because her research is inaccurate.
48:30After all, the whole story is that they want to accuse us of spreading fake news, and her methodology was neither good nor accurate.
48:39Um and they were especially upset that she spread the lie by Zaka, this fake rescue organization which is a collection of grifters itself, that Hamas had cut a fetus out of a pregnant woman, which was just completely made up, discredited, debunked.
48:57And the new report contains all those lies.
49:01Uh here's the roll out of the report from the Daily Mail which then spread to the New York Times, Washington Post, Associated Press, full depravity of Hamas during October 7th revealed for the first time. New report deals details how terrorists performed almost unimaginable horrors upon Israeli families. This was authored by Natalie Lisbona, who is the main Israeli asset in one of the main Israeli assets in British media. Whenever they want any story out, they'll go to her, and I pointed out that here she is with her de facto boss Benjamin Netanyahu at Netanyahu I think at his birthday party at his home on
49:42June 8th, 2022. 20 22, yeah.
49:49So, you know, if you look at anyone talking about these horrors, they were they got the memo.
49:57It started with the Daily Mail and it was disseminated through Israeli embassies, the Israeli foreign ministry to all of the MAGA influencers that Israel pays.
50:08And none of them cared that uh Kohav Elkayam Levy was a fraud.
50:15Or that and none of them bothered to check any of the facts in the report.
50:20Um here's one person who promoted the report.
50:26Um >> [snorts] >> out of so many politicians who are on the AIPAC payroll and it's a Democrat.
50:34The main Democrat, Josh Gottheimer, who by the way uh just was the sponsor of a war crimes resolution that was designed to fail and after the the Democratic leadership failed to count the votes properly, they had to send in a co-sponsor of the war crime of the war powers resolution to declare Trump had no power to go back to war with Iran.
50:57They had to bring out a co-sponsor, Jared Golden, another Democrat, to vote against the own the resolution that he co-sponsored, exposing the whole scam.
51:06Anyway, Josh Gottheimer, biggest Israel tool in the Democratic Party in Congress.
51:12The new report detailing Hamas atrocities on October 7th is horrifying beyond words. Families were targeted in their homes, women raped, people decapitated, children terrorized and burned alive, and entire communities shattered.
51:25Th- Th- This This was the language that surrounded this report about decapitations and Ed Gein-style mutilations, Leatherface, all the stuff we debunked 2 years ago. And so I said, "Decapitation, what was that?"
51:39>> [snorts] >> That was from uh the Screams Without Words article. You remember that? You remember Sapir?
51:46The source, Sapir.
51:48Gettleman's article, Screams Words in the New York Times claimed that this wit- key witness, identified as Saphir, that she saw um the severed heads of three women. The three women were beheaded. Yeah. And uh and I I I think she said that one of the uh Hamas militants was carrying the these severed heads. And of course, which raised the obvious question, where are the heads? Like, where's the evidence for this? And there was none.
52:15And the Israeli media admitted this.
52:17They were not able to to corroborate this. So then what Gettleman did, and we made fun of this at the time cuz it was so outrageous. In his follow-up article that Gettleman did in response to our criticisms, the the one those the ones that we made and also that Electronic Intifada made and Mondoweiss and The Intercept, Gettleman was forced to write this follow-up article, the you know, going back and interviewing some of the same people and sort of trying to cover up for all of his uh fabrications without acknowledging us, of course. He just he he >> Yeah. He made a very uh vague reference at times in his article to critics.
52:52Critics have said this. Anyway, in that follow-up article, he claimed and Israeli officials have claimed that they discovered three severed heads.
53:01But >> Right. Right. Right. But that's it. He didn't say anything more. Uh providing evidence, photographs. That's it. All of a sudden, the Israeli police, according to Gettleman in the New York Times, have magically discovered three severed heads, even though there's no record anywhere of uh them saying this except for in the Times. Uh and Israeli media never ever reported this. This was basically an exclusive for Jeffrey Gettleman. After he printed the initial false claim about three severed heads, he got some Israelis, I guess, to tell him that, "Yeah, we Don't worry, we found the heads. Yes, like you're good. You're
53:31good." Um complete absolute fraud. And of course, there was no follow-up and no need to bother to substantiate because he was engaged in propaganda. But yeah, that that claim appeared in the original Screams Without Words.
53:45So, yeah, that that that's Sketelmen sold himself out or harmed himself by claiming they found the heads.
53:53Because it's been 2 years.
53:55Don't you think they would have identified the heads and told us who they belonged to to implicate Hamas and justify their genocide?
54:04Uh there would be a section of the public that would say, "Well, I would have supported nuking Gaza if, you know, they had done that to us." But, they never produced the heads. You know what else they haven't done?
54:15You know that 47-minute video that Israel showed to every suggestible, uh low-IQ, semi-comatose influencer they could find to propagate their message of Hamas atrocities?
54:32And they would only show it to them in secret at military bases or during private screenings. I think Dr. Phil saw it.
54:39Uh Chris Cuomo.
54:42All these guys are like, you know, they're they're just complete puppets of the Hasbara machine.
54:48They've never made it public, and they never will.
54:52I and I I've, you know, working with the Israeli researchers have managed to kind of piece it together.
54:58And I can see why they would never release that to the public.
55:02Because uh it's it's it's easy to explain that this is not what they say it is.
55:10Another source that's cited in this civil commission report is uh the key source for Sheryl Sandberg's completely discredited documentary trying to hype up the idea of mass rape on October 7th. What was it called?
55:26Screams Before Silence.
55:29Screams It's exactly right. They love that Screams uh theme.
55:34Screams uh bef- uh Screams Without Words and Screams Without Silence. And as you pointed out, it just should have been called Screams Without Evidence.
55:43Screams Without Evidence. Sheryl Sandberg being the billionaire Lean In feminist ultra-Zionist who also endorsed the Civil Commission report.
55:54And the Civil Commission report, I mean, these are footnotes from the report.
55:58Well, actually, you know, here's here's the uh here's the uh New York Post's rendering of that report. And they show uh Hamas militant taking hostage Naama Levy, who was an Israeli soldier. And they always used this photo because you can see there's like blood on the back of her sweatpants to suggest that she had just been raped. She actually has come out and publicly said that that was because uh she was tussling with her captors and that she fell on the ground and wiped her hands. But there was no sexual assault there. So, she herself debunked that.
56:35Um there's no images of sexual violence in any of those photos.
56:39But anyway, these are like 1 2 3 4 5 long passages all citing Rami Davidian.
56:47Who is Rami Davidian?
56:50He is the biggest fraud of October 7th who was the key witness for Sheryl Sandberg. Let me see if I can bring up He He took Sheryl Sandberg in the movie with trees and claimed that there were uh women tied to the trees who had been raped and killed by Hamas militants.
57:18Here's Here's uh our takedown of Rami Davidian.
57:23Here he is. I saw girls tied up with their hands behind them to every tree here.
57:28And he claimed that he carried out all these rescue missions to rescue people.
57:32Then he was going on lecture tours mostly in Hebrew being paid lots of money.
57:37Lots of money. He may have earned millions of shekels telling his stories.
57:41And he was exposed by uh Raviv Drucker, who is one of the most prominent investigative journalists in Israeli media as being a complete and total fraud.
57:52Um this is Raviv Drucker's post exposing him as a fraud.
57:59Uh oh oh right here Here's his testimony.
58:03Hold on.
58:06This is from the Sheryl Sandberg film, and you know, it really has to be seen to know what a fraud this is.
58:15Yeah, there she is crying.
58:22Someone tied them on these trees.
58:25Their legs were spread.
58:31And there's ropes put on the trees for some reason.
58:35Okay, everything he said there was completely entirely made up.
58:41By the way, the whole movie is simply just Sheryl Sandberg crying in front of a camera as a series of fraudsters tell her fake things.
58:50That's just the whole movie. It's one after the other just like people lying through their teeth and her crying at it. And with with uh you know, emotive music over top. That's >> Yes. That's the whole film. And it was screened uh Kamala Harris I think screened this at the White House.
59:05>> Yep. This was taken so seriously uh even though again as we're speaking about now with this one guy, it's a it's just a collection of fraudsters.
59:15Guys from ZAKA are in that film, too.
59:18Yeah, here's what Raviv Drucker said about Rami Davidian, the guy you just saw who was the key figure in that film.
59:25These are not slight exaggerations, slight inflating of the number of those rescued. These are stories made up from beginning to end by by Davidian.
59:33Hair-raising stories that never really happened.
59:37Uh some of the stories have been quoted in a reputable film and newspapers around the world in an important book.
59:43In the year and a half since the October 7th attacks, Davidian has turned his stories into an industry, countless paid lectures in Israel and abroad, fundraising campaigns that were supposedly done for him, but he disavows them. A present presentation, dozens or perhaps hundreds of interviews with the media in which he repeats over and over again stories that simply never happened. Davidian admitted to being a complete fraud. Raviv Drucker was going to go to air with this devastating report for Channel 13, the like which is like Israel's version of ABC, and then his the owner of the network stopped it due to public outcry and said
60:23you can't show the public this.
60:25And the entire report was canceled and censored.
60:28>> [snorts] >> And now it appears at the heart of this phony civil commission report. And then the next footnote after um Rami Davidian is one citing a photographer named Eden Wessely who claims that she filmed this girl in a black dress who was found beside her car whose legs were spread after October 7th. That became exhibit A for the New York Times discredited screams without words story. Her name was Gal Abdush.
60:58Um and this is amazing, too.
61:00We we exposed this, but you know, it wasn't even we we we could tell it she was suffering from symptoms of rigor mortis. Her car was blown up. She was probably a victim of the Hannibal directive. Israeli Apache helicopters were targeting every car going away from the site of the Nova electronic music festival towards Gaza, killing probably hundreds of Israelis as well as Palestinians.
61:26She was probably one of them, but then her family comes out, her own sister, and said the New York Times lied to us and misled us. We didn't even know this is going to be a story about uh sexual abuse. And that uh she wasn't she the timeline doesn't match up. She was not raped. That's not what happened. So that her own family calls out the New York Times. And then there is this civil commission report takes that and fills their report with that phony story citing Jeffrey Gettleman from the New York Times, but not naming Gal Abdush hoping that, you know, critics like us wouldn't pick up on it. Well, I picked
62:03up on it. They took one of the most discredited stories where the the family of the victim themself actually said was a fraud.
62:12And I mean, that just shows you the low quality of this report, which um Ali Abunimah has done a seminal takedown of it. I think, you know, if you want something to to share, to illustrate, or to to refer to to illustrate what a scam this report, which was taken seriously by every single legacy media outlet in the US, is. Uh Ali has done it. Israel's 7th October rape hoax gets a 300-page reboot.
62:44And what Ali One of the things Ali points out is um you know, the civil commission relies heavily on Zaka, which is the scam rescue organization that raised tons of money off fake stories like the 40 beheaded babies story or fetuses cut from pregnant women.
63:07Um yeah, and and and and and I mean wait till you find out who founded Zaka.
63:13It was Yehuda Meshi-Zahav, who was going to get the Israel Prize, Israel's most prestigious prize, and then Israeli media exposed him as the {quote} Haredi Jeffrey Epstein.
63:29In other words, the ultra-Orthodox Jeffrey Epstein, and published countless testimonies, like dozens and dozens of testimonies of ultra-Orthodox Jews who, as children, had been raped by the founder of Zaka, and then he committed suicide. And spent the rest of his life in a coma.
63:47Those are the sources that the civil commission is relying on.
63:51And if you remember, just to take a trip down memory lane, remember when I found out who was on the board of Zaka?
63:57>> [snorts] >> None other than >> [laughter] >> I forgot. Halal cart harasser Stuart Selkowitz, the guy who was on video harassing a halal cart vendor in New York City uh because uh he was Arab. Uh he was on the board of he was on the advisory board of Zaka.
64:16So, uh this is the kind of uh uh people that Zaka is associated >> Experts. and attracts, yeah, yeah, yeah.
64:25So, and but amazingly >> Humanitarians. this report from the commission, whatever it's called, gets taken seriously, uh the lead author, who who you just talked about, uh Cochav Elkayam-Levy, was given like a 10-minute interview on CNN, no critical questions, taken very, very seriously.
64:44So, you still have an establishment media Yes, now the Times The New York Times willing to you know, document seriously the crimes against Palestinians, but still, across the board, no skepticism of the debunked Israeli propaganda um about Hamas mass rape and sexual violence on October 7th.
65:06None.
65:07Um None.
65:12No evidence in there. There's no evidence in a 300-page report.
65:19Yeah, I think one of Ali's main points, too, is that there's still it's you but like you read the 300-page report and there's there's still no count of actual victims. Like if you're claiming that there was widespread sexual violence, okay, tell us or or give us a rough estimate of how many victims there were. And there's no figure.
65:34Because they because this is invented out of thin air and there's still no identified victims of sexual violence or rape on October 7th. Now, since October 7th, you know, people who were held in captivity in Gaza, they've made allegations.
65:48Um so, we can say that the allegations have at least happened since October 7th in captivity. But on October 7th, which has been the subject of so much hype, you know, as we've just been talking about documentaries, news reports, like Jeffrey Gettleman's, still [snorts] no count of the alleged victims because again, this is not a serious investigation. It's not based on something factual. It's a hoax designed to manufacture support for genocide or at least deter people from protesting the genocide uh by saying that, you know, if you dare challenge Israel uh attacking Gaza and and quote unquote defending itself, then you're
66:28giving a pass to uh the rape that happened on October 7th. That's the point of propaganda campaigns like this.
66:35And again, And they achieved their goal.
66:37They did.
66:38>> of our times. Yes, they did.
66:39>> The New York Times and all of these papers, what they actually achieved was supporting the contemporary Holocaust. Yes, exactly. And and and and that's and that's where the term blood libel is appropriate. Uh not not when talking about what Israel uh you know, in the Israeli sense when they when they when Israel claims they've been subjected to a blood libel, but Palestinians were. And it it was incredibly effective.
67:03Yeah, and uh shoutout to Katha Pollitt from The Nation for her involvement in this as well.
67:10>> [laughter] >> Remember her. Remember The Nation?
67:12Remember when that was a magazine? I do remember that [ __ ] I I still subscribe, but um yeah. Uh and many others. There was Yeah, there's a long list of people who we don't need to mention who unfortunately propped up this narrative.
67:25Well, there's a new there's there's a there's a current component here that I think needs to be mentioned.
67:32Right now for Palestinian prisoners, this is one of the hardest moments. They are being subjected to the harshest conditions in history under the watch of Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, who was is a disciple of Meir Kahane, who wanted to fully ethnically cleanse and exterminate Palestinians.
67:50He's in charge of the prisons, and he has, as I mentioned, ushered through a bill to allow for the execution of Palestinian prisoners. So, by taking seriously this Civil Commission report, the Associated Press, Reuters, New York Times, Washington Post, CNN have provided momentum and fuel to the fire of Itamar Ben-Gvir, who wants to begin executing these prisoners claiming that they were the authors of these rapes and decapitating people. And and I mean, here he is, Ben-Gvir in front of a literal gas chamber presenting his gas chamber for who he wants to gas and execute.
68:41Well, that's actually a a news.
68:46I mean, this is a major Israeli minister who's the linchpin, >> [clears throat] >> no pun intended, for Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition, which is on the verge of collapse.
68:56And this is what he wants to do to hundreds of Palestinians.
69:01And now he is Well, he actually refused to comment for Nick Kristof's report.
69:09But this needs to be considered. Well, maybe he was too busy eating his noose cake that he got for his birthday recently. His wife gifted him with a cake, you know, shaped as a noose uh to uh celebrate. So, maybe he was too busy eating that.
69:24This is it.
69:25This is his birthday cake.
69:28And this is, you know, who's who's in charge of Palestinians who are kidnapped from Gaza.
69:36>> [singing] >> On the left with that that's his wife who he met when he she was 15.
69:44Uh there's the noose cake.
69:47Yes, this is Israel. Uh as uh Senator Jackie Rosen, Democrat from Nevada, said, "Israel is a source of inspiration to Jews worldwide."
69:57Uh sorry, I failed to find this inspiring.
70:00Kind of reminds me of uh st- Strange Fruit by Billie Holiday.
70:08The only way I could be inspired by that is if it was part of a Nuremberg type trial for Israeli officials. Yes.
70:15Then I might find that noose inspiring.
70:17The whole world would celebrate that day. And it would mean that international law existed again.
70:25So, uh yeah. Happy uh Nakba Day. It's the day after Israel's quote-unquote Independence Day when Israelis have barbecues on stolen Palestinian land.
70:37And I I don't just say that to sound woke or whatever. They literally go to places like Canada Park which are built atop uh Palestinian villages with forests built by the Jewish National Fund to prevent the villagers from coming back.
70:52Uh Beit Nuba, Imwas, villages like that where they're where the residents were marched out at gunpoint and they have barbecues and enjoy the day and the day after Palestinians observe the Nakba Day and today um the daughter of Old Blue Eyes Nancy Sinatra said this uh in March 1948 she was so proud of this day. In March 1948 Frank Sinatra helped Teddy Kollek, a Haganah representative and future Jerusalem mayor, smuggle an estimated $1 million in cash to a New York pier to pay for arms destined for the nascent state of Israel. Sinatra acted as a courier to bypass FBI surveillance ensuring the money reached a ship captain for
71:41undercover operations.
71:44So she's bragging about uh being her dad what and his well-known connections to organized crime violating US law to support the establishment of a terrorist state that ethnically cleansed 750,000 people.
72:04Uh Nancy Sinatra who is like a turbo lib. She's like a blue and on liberal.
72:11Great.
72:12I missed that because I'm blocked by her. I I think because of my Russia Gate skepticism. Um so >> Guess what, Aaron?
72:18I'm blocked too and I don't know I've never engaged with Nancy Sinatra. I I kind of didn't even know she was alive.
72:24She blocked me. There we go.
72:27>> [laughter] >> So she blocked us both. I don't know how she did It must have been Russia Gate related. Yeah.
72:35Um Teddy Kollek, by the way, yeah, future mayor of Jerusalem who as Jerusalem mayor uh oversaw the forced ethnic cleansing of the Moroccan Quarter, the Maghrebi Quarter uh so that uh because um Palestinians were living by the Western Wall and they wanted to turn it into a tourist site for Jews from around the world and politicians who wanted to run for president and needed to kiss the wall.
73:01Um like um what was his name? J.D.
73:04Hamill turned J.D. Vance.
73:07Uh forcing thousands and thousands of families out into the Shuafat refugee camp where they're now routinely denied water and placed under curfew. Teddy Kollek also before the establishment of the state of Israel secretly negotiated with Adolf Eichmann who would later be put on trial in Jerusalem uh to exchange Jewish property for Jewish bodies.
73:30And this was considered some kind of heroic act. It was actually a secret agreement between the Zionist movement and the not and and Nazi Germany called the Havara or transfer agreement which required American Jewish leadership to end its boycott of Nazi Germany and German products to support the Zionist movement. Teddy Kollek was central to that. And and Nancy Sinatra's referring to like these docks. I guess like that was after Lucky Luciano had been sprung from prison by Meyer Lansky who was like his bookkeeper so that Luciano could assist uh the US military in the um Sicily in amphibious operation.
74:11And so the mafia basically was running the docks during World War II.
74:15Um uh Thomas Dewey had put Lucky Luciano in jail. He was the AG in New York.
74:22The And he was the head of the Cosa Nostra. And so the um US government under FDR let Luciano out of prison so that they could invade Sicily.
74:31Uh and then co-cooperated with the mafia.
74:34And then made the mafia part of Operation Gladio to get the communists and socialists out of Italy after the war. So this must have related to that relationship uh through Meyer Lansky who you know, at that time was uh you know, very was still out of jail and influential. So, that's my theory about this whole opera- I I would like to read more history about how Sinatra did that.
75:01But, Sinatra was down with all those guys, Cosa Nostra and so on.
75:06Moving on.
75:10Yeah, and we continue to um we continue the United States regime continues to collaborate and conspire with the mafia, with narco-traffickers in Latin America.
75:24They are the presidents of the right-wing Latin American countries like Ecuador and Honduras.
75:32Uh take a look at our uh latest piece authored and produced by Oscar Leon on Hondurasgate, which is the biggest scandal the US media isn't covering. And there are these new audio leaks produced um the obtained by an outlet called Diario Red, which show that the Trump administration is working with Juan Orlando Hernández, convicted drug trafficker, former president of Honduras, who was convicted of smuggling 200 tons of cocaine into the United States and was pardoned by Donald Trump in December of last year. They're working with him to establish a uh new media smear machine to attack the leftist
76:14governments of Colombia and Mexico and uh Brazil and to carry out death squad-like operations to crush the left in countries they control. And that's already been happening in Ecuador and Honduras.
76:28It's a major scandal. All the leaks are out there with Hernández himself spelling it out and declaring we have to blindly obey Trump. And who put up the money, according to Hernández? Israeli sources. Israel's playing the middle man. So, the US continues to collaborate with the mafia here. Just as uh the mafia worked to establish Israel.
76:52At what Aaron Good, the researcher, calls it like uh I forget what he calls it, but he has a really memorable term for this kind of um this this this kind of um global mafia, and he uses it to help explain the JFK assassination.
77:15But, I think um you know, since I brought up Meyer Lansky, Lansky had a casino in Havana in that he was developing, Hotel Riviera, and he put all of his money into it. I actually uh drank a mojito at that bar.
77:34And Lansky was kicked out of Cuba.
77:37You know, you can see this depicted in The Godfather, Hyman Roth, getting run out of Cuba.
77:42As a populist revolution takes place.
77:46And that was pretty much the end of Lansky.
77:48And he sort of retired after that cuz he dumped so much money into the Riviera.
77:52It's a beautiful hotel, by the way. And the bar is made of like mahogany wood.
77:56Um the US is trying to come back and bring the mafia back to Cuba by starving the Cuban population of energy, of food.
78:08Um you know, we published a report on Cuba. Danny Shaw went across the island, lived as Cubans did, showed that there are probably excess deaths, depopulation. People cannot get from one town to the next because the US has cut them off of fuel, prevented obviously Venezuela from shipping oil there.
78:27And uh this I mean, it's it's almost like a genocidal policy. And now the State Department and Marco Rubio, Narco Rubio, who is at the helm of this policy is telling Cuba, "Well, you cannot have humanitarian aid unless you abide by our regime change conditions." Then strangely John Ratcliffe, the CIA director, shows up in Havana.
78:52Some I would say disturbing images here, Aaron.
78:59And the way they announce this is just tweeting Havana, Cuba. Yeah. As if this is like it's so obnoxious cuz they're flaunting the fact that they're starving, suffocating the country, but then uh the Cuba is forced to host the CIA director, the agency involved in trying to destroy the country for you know decades upon decades.
79:23So, it's obnoxious and they're showing that they're in charge just as they like to do in Venezuela. There's a similar thing. I think Ratcliffe also went to Venezuela, right? Yeah, he did. I mean he he was one of the first to show up to meet Elsie Rodriguez. So, it's just a way to show that they're in charge and I mean should we talk about the talk I don't think it's happened yet, but there's been talk of an indictment of of Raul Castro.
79:46Yeah, I think it will happen and needs to go to a uh federal jury which will do whatever the DOJ wants, but this is a CBS.
79:55Of course CBS gets it because they're the legacy media network that was bought to be the you know, to propagate the Trump administration / Israel's message, but Jennifer Jacobs seems sort of like one of their real reporters. US is taking steps to indict Raul Castro, the 94-year-old former president of Cuba and former brother of Fidel in connection with the downing of planes 30 years ago. Those are the the Brothers to the Rescue planes. It's expected to you know, the indictment's expected to focus on Cuba's 1996 shoot down of planes operated by quote-unquote humanitarian group Brothers to the Rescue. And I
80:31pointed out that Brothers to the rescue was not a humanitarian group. It was a mercenary CIA backed group that was involved with a terrorist network that had been carrying out terrorist crimes in Cuba for decades.
80:46Brothers to the rescue was um you know, run under the watch of of CANEF, which was itself which it was itself spun out of militant guerrilla organizations that had been involved in the Bay of Pigs operation and probably the JFK assassination. And what the CIA did was when they got all these terrorist exiles dumped on the on the US in South Florida, they set up little organ like aid organizations to give themselves to give them something to do so there wouldn't be blowback. So they wouldn't start carrying out crimes inside the US or attempting more terrorist attacks. But then the CIA under George H. W. Bush started actually
81:27authorizing terrorist attacks in Cuba, uh including bombings of hotels, Cuban resorts. These terrorist groups wanted to stop tourism to Cuba. So they shot up beaches in Cuba. They killed many people. And then there was the most notorious act, the bombing of Cubana Flight 455 by um Luis Posada Carriles and Orlando Bosch, both known confirmed CIA assets.
81:5773 people were killed on that flight to Barbados.
82:01Um I I I missed the um there was a there was a ceremony a couple years ago in Barbados on off the beach. The whole Barbadian government came out. Um I think Mia Mottley, the president the PM was involved to observe um the victims because they crashed right off the coast there. This is a huge tragedy for the whole Car- Caribbean. I think the North Korean fencing team was on that flight.
82:30The bombs were placed in Venezuela.
82:33Um Bosch and Carriles were you know Carriles got off on a technicality in Venezuela.
82:39And then um they went on to live the rest of their lives as free men in the United States protected from justice by former CIA director George H.W. Bush, his bro his uh son Jeb Bush who was governor of Florida, and the Miami mafia, the Gusano industrial complex. In 1983 the city of Miami under its first Latino mayor may announced Orlando Bosch Day to honor one of those terrorists.
83:06And they died as old men in their South Florida homes. And now the CIA is charging Raul Castro for defending his country from this terrorist network which was violating Cuban airspace and sovereignty and threatening its citizens. I mean it's such a farce. And and the terrorism continues. The blockade of Cuba is economic terrorism which is killing untold numbers of people every day.
83:32And going back to the downing of the Brothers to the Rescue jet for which Raul Castro might get indicted. I'm pretty sure that that then leads to Clinton signing Helms-Burton, right?
83:43Which intensifies the US embargo of Cuba. So you you know provocatively flying in these planes, Cuba defends itself, then they and then the US responds by increasing or or intensifying an already sadistic uh blockade embargo. And Trump since he's taken power has taken that to a new level. He's in fact elements of He's in fact enforced elements of Helms-Burton that previously were sort of uh sidelined because they were just too sadistic. But Trump took it to a new to a to a new level and that's why the island is in such desperate shape.
84:18And so John Ratcliffe going to visit Cuba and then flaunting it. Uh you know, Trump's been talking increasingly about taking control of Cuba soon. And um that seems to be his next move, whatever he does with Iran, however he tries to slink away from that one.
84:35Yeah, once the US ends one war, it starts another. That's kind of the lesson.
84:41Uh Ukraine was at peace in 2010, 2011.
84:45On uh Victory Day, Russian troops, Ukrainian troops, and um Belarusian troops marched together when Ukraine was neutral.
84:57That was the time of the Afghan surge.
84:59Afghanistan fails, the US goes right into Ukraine.
85:03So they can justify the US regime, the imperial regime can justify running our pockets as US taxpayers for another war, another aid package of 40 billion.
85:16Ukraine starts to uh fall or the the campaign starts to starts to wind down or enter a more frozen or protracted conflict, the US moves to Iran. The US fails in Iran in what Robert Kagan, in veteran imperial planner, calls the worst defeat for the US in history, a far worse defeat than Afghanistan or Vietnam, the US moves on, and we are seeing intelligence overflights, surveillance flights over Cuba, the same kind of flights in the same manner that we saw over Venezuela before the US military invaded Caracas and kidnapped now political prisoner and legitimate Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro and
86:05his wife Celia Flores. So there is a threat of Cuba uh being invaded.
86:14And I wonder what terms John Ratcliffe laid on the table and what threats he made, but I assume he was there to make the threats. Absolutely. Absolutely.
86:24Uh why else would he be there?
86:26Uh and uh yeah, um that's why they took out Maduro to pave the way for this because Maduro was standing by Cuba. They took care of that.
86:39On to the next target. And you know, as I said, I'm just amazed Cuba's held on for this long.
86:44This tiny island living right next to the world's top hegemon that's been devoted to destroying it for you know, 70-something years and they've managed to keep their system under impossible conditions. Um whatever happens, what they've already achieved is is um it's incredible. It is that they managed to preserve their system for this long.
87:06Uh really uh I mean it how they've been able to do it should be studied because it it's a level of of of resilience and ingenuity that that I can't even imagine.
87:18Yeah, I mean Cuba's Cuba has contributed a lot to humanity uh breaking the back of South African apartheid, the Cuban doctors, the medical brigades have done so much for people. They literally cured They literally helped uh people who were uh effectively blind in Jamaica providing them with ophthalmological care uh eye care that for free. I remember I I I needed to get stitches in Nicaragua and I went to a a clinic there and got >> Trump is for Sorry, Trump but Trump has forced most countries to kick out those doctors and Nicaragua being the exception cuz they're outside of US control, but a lot of countries uh
87:58have been forced to kick out those Cuban doctors now.
88:01>> Yeah, they just kicked them out of Guatemala. Yeah.
88:03I remember I needed stitches and I got first-rate, you know, medical care, got patched right up at a clinic in Nicaragua and I asked the the nurse of the uh where did you where were you did you receive your medical training? She said from Cuba and I said how much do I owe you and she said nothing.
88:20I just walked right out.
88:22That's the Cuban style but not but but there's there's nothing left. I mean the the if the revolution cannot deliver socialism as abundance for its people at this point and you have such a highly trained population but there's nothing left in the tank literally because they've just run out again of fuel. When they have fuel they can they can deliver.
88:51And so much of the population is being forced to leave. You're seeing migration crises and what will become of Cuba if the US achieves its goal.
89:01I think one thing you will see and you know in conversations with Cuban officials where I've asked them this question in recent months they've said they're they're very worried about this and that they do eat despite the economic terror that the US is leveling against them. They do cooperate actively with the US on drug enforcement that they're very worried about cartel penetration and cartel violence and you know while violence is has increased and you see more petty crime in Cuba. There used to be just no crime.
89:38uh you know the kind of high-powered weaponry that you saw come in when the posses started taking over parts of Jamaica or El Salvador when the gang members were repatriated from the US and started you know you started to see the rise of MS-13. You know that's that that could be a consequence here of the opening up of Cuba as well as just the the unraveling of what was a first-class healthcare system and all the innovations and the medical development and the education. You know, everyone in Cuba you meet, like every other person is a professional. You meet so many scholars and artists there.
90:17You know, there was so much potential there and the US regime is just determined to crush that and crush it finally.
90:27Uh Iran remains on the target board though.
90:31And uh I don't know, do you think do you think there's a chance that Trump will attack Iran again? We're seeing new troop transport planes being transferred from, I believe, the Ukrainian battlefield towards the region. Um there are some ominous signs. Trump obviously can't accept any Iranian conditions and Iran isn't really afraid of the United States attacking again because they, as Robert Kagan has acknowledged, have checkmated the US. W- Do you Do you think this is possible?
91:01Maybe on his way out he launches uh some strikes as sort of a parting gift, a a consolation prize, a door prize to disappointed uh neocons like Robert Kagan and of course the Israeli government, but in terms of a kinetic war to overthrow the government, I I think that part is over cuz as Robert Kagan said, uh he's lost because of Iran's leverage over the Strait of Hormuz and its ability to do damage to uh the Gulf states uh complicit in the attack. And Trump is you know, can't go too far on attacking Iran because he has such close financial uh ties uh to them. And so there's only so much he can do. So I, you know, I
91:43think he's lost. At best, I think in terms of warfare, maybe some parting strikes on his way out, but in terms of a a full-blown regime change campaign, I think that's over. But at the same time, do I see Trump reaching a deal with Iran, engaging in serious diplomacy? No way.
91:58Um this guy can't do diplomacy, especially with Iran, which he's got so much contempt for because Iran has been defiant of him. It's humiliated him uh as it has, you know, US hegemony for many decades now and instead of being a deterrent, a a curve on Israeli US power. So, uh especially and you've covered this, Max, like him recently appointing or the Trump administration recently appointing uh [snorts] Nick Stuart uh Nick Stuart of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, which is is which is an Israeli front group to Steve Witkoff's so-called negotiating team. There's no way he reaches a deal
92:35uh that builds on the JCPOA, the one that he walked away from. So, I think at best we're getting a frozen conflict.
92:41He'll have to concede Iran controlling the Strait of Hormuz and charging tolls there because how else will Iran pay for its reconstruction from all the damage that Trump and Israel caused? They have to find a way to fund that and Trump's not going to pay reparations.
92:55And he can't wrest control of the Strait of Hormuz from Iran as he's shown. And the New York Times recently reported that Iran maintains the bulk of its military capacity despite Trump and Pete Hegseth's claims to the controversy. So, what I'm foreseeing is just a, you know, frozen conflict, no war, but also no deal.
93:17>> [snorts] >> Yeah. I think long-term, that's what we're looking at. You can kind of hear that uh in the words of Pentagon Joint Chiefs Chairman Dan Cain, who testified for, I think, 14 hours uh 3 days ago.
93:33And this was a very revealing exchange in which Dan Cain, under questioning from Senator Dick Durbin, really couldn't point to any real victory and couldn't deny being having been defeated or at least checkmated by Iran.
93:49Could you explain to the American people why with the vast investment we've made in national defense and military, how Iran, after they've been attacked by us is still capable of stopping the traffic in the Strait of Hormuz. Well, sure it's a it's a complex situation out there with a lot of different small boats that are out there and other capabilities. Um uh you know, I uh some of this is on the commercial traffickers. Um some of this is on again back to the main problem and that's Iran holding the global economy hostage through the straits.
94:27Um I would encourage them to think wisely about their next moves and to take the opportunity to open the straits. They have that choice to make.
94:36They certainly do. I guess the question in my mind is as we talk about trillion-dollar plus budgets for our military, it appears that a very small budget is holding us hostage in the Strait of Hormuz.
94:50Brutal. By the way, what Kaine says there about yeah, I would urge Iran to reopen the straits. I mean, they had a deal to do that, but then the problem is Trump said, "I'm going to keep on this blockade." Yep.
95:01Yep. So, you know, you know, Senator Durbin could point that out, but of course these these pro-war narratives are seldom challenged, but yeah. Um overall though an admission of defeat, a tacit admission of defeat. He said they have these small boats are still out there.
95:17Like Trump said their entire navy was shattered. Yeah. Yeah. What what Kaine is acknowledging there is that Iran with small boats some cruise missiles and some very cheap drones has forced the US military, the US Navy to its knees.
95:34And that it must keep ships in the Indian Ocean 600 km out. I think that's the that's the correct distance. So, there's a new rule with naval standoffs, which is 600 km or 600 600 mi.
95:50I don't know the exact distance, but it's pretty far. The US tried to sail two destroyers through the Strait of Hormuz, and they were either struck or nearly struck, and that was the end of that.
96:04So, if US naval power has been checkmated by small boats, as the Joint Chiefs chairman acknowledged, what does that mean for US conflict with China, which is a world-class naval power with standoff capacity and a real air force, unlike Iran?
96:22Doesn't bode well. And that really highlights the weakness and vulnerability that Donald Trump brought to Beijing.
96:31Uh then he then there's the economic component.
96:35Uh price of groceries is way up.
96:40Go look at those Israel first prices at your local gas station.
96:45Out here where I am, premium gas is $6 a gallon. It's getting to California prices.
96:51California, it's way above $6 a gallon.
96:55And Donald Trump is asked about this in front of the White House. Here's what he has to say.
97:05Mr. President, you're negotiating with Iran as the president. To what extent are American financial considerations motivating you to make a deal?
97:13Not even a little bit. The only thing that matters when I'm talking about Iran, they can't have a nuclear weapon.
97:19I don't think about American financial situation. I don't think about anybody. I think about one thing. We cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon. That's all.
97:29That's the only thing that matters.
97:34So, he he's trying to appear principled, but Americans don't care about Iran having a nuclear weapon. And this is not even about Iran having a nuclear weapon, because they've already affirmed that they don't want one, and they signed a deal renouncing one. That was in the preamble of the JCPOA, Iran saying they have they do not want to have a nuclear weapon, which Trump tore up. So, this isn't even about whether Iran has a nuclear weapon or not.
97:59And as an American, I think Iran should have a nuclear weapon after all this because it's the only way of stopping these wars and from being constantly attacked. So, maybe they will have one.
98:09Um it makes sense.
98:12But Donald Trump doesn't care about your situa- economic or financial situation if you're an American. Unless you're a Trump insider and you're cashing in on some of the $3 billion or so of insider trading profits that have been made since February 28th.
98:31Uh they have access to Donald Trump. They may be named Trump. How is Barron Trump worth $120 million?
98:42Uh someone who has no discernible skills, but whose father, Donald, says is a genius because he can turn his laptop on and off.
98:52How did Eric Trump go from being worth $40 million to $440 million?
98:58It's just pure corruption. But for everyone else, you're screwed. Trump doesn't care about you. Here's the reason why he went to war.
99:07Well, he spells it out very clearly in an interview with Sean Hannity about his trip to China. This is probably the most um direct and candid statement from Trump about why he went to war. We don't need it We don't need it at all.
99:23>> We don't need it at all. Fair enough.
99:25So, I mean You could make the case, you know, like why are we even We're doing it to help Israel and to help Saudi Arabia and to help uh Qatar and UAE and, you know, Kuwait and other countries. You heard that? So, you know, if you're struggling to get to work because gas costs so much or it's eating into your earnings cuz you're driving Uber or Lyft, we're doing it for Israel. People are like, "Why are we even We're doing it to help Israel and to help Saudi Arabia and to help uh Qatar and UAE and you know, and a bunch of corrupt and other dictatorships that are paying Donald Trump and I'm giving him luxury hair. I
100:10told him today. I said, "You know, we're helping you and we're helping you in another way because I don't think they want I don't think China wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon, either."
100:19I said, "Just don't go crazy. You don't need them having a nuclear weapon, either."
100:25>> What did he say? What did he say?
100:26Well, he's not going to respond too much. He's pretty cool guy. He's not going to say, "Oh, gee, that's a good point." I think he might What's he going to do?
100:33What a wonderful point. Do you think he agreed? Yeah, I think he's not going to do that.
100:38>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Xi responded by buying energy from Iran and and supplying it with continued support including technology that it needs to defend itself. That's China's actual response. And even this idea that he's doing this for Saudi Arabia, I actually don't even buy.
100:54Uh I don't think Saudi I mean, may maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think Saudi Arabia actually wanted this war. I think I think the UAE did for sure. I mean, that's They They haven't concealed that one. They've been very open about that.
101:06Um they would love to see Trump destroy Iran even though they're right there next to Iran and they're incredibly vulnerable for any to any retaliation.
101:13So, I don't know what it goes on in their minds uh inside UAE, but I don't even think Saudi was on board. But even if they were, again, yeah, why why would this be a reason to go to go to war to commit this act of aggression against Iran uh and blow up the global economy in the process. But again, in Trump's brain, it makes sense because as you said, he's he he he gets a lot of money from these from these Gulf monarchies.
101:37Yeah.
101:39So, actually, Prince Turki al-Faisal, former intelligence minister, issued uh op-ed spelling out what which which which probably is objectively true and real, what Mohammed bin Salman, the Crown Prince, is thinking around the war was, which is that Saudi Arabia should remain as neutral as possible while maintaining its relationship with the US. It's given the US overflight rights and made itself vulnerable.
102:12But, uh Prince Turki acknowledges in this op-ed for the Saudi paper Al-Sharq Al-Awsat that uh Iran could have totally destroyed Saudi Arabia by bombing its desalination plants and making life uninhabitable for its citizens. And so, MBS attempted to keep Saudi Arabia out of that scenario. Whereas, the UAE has been actually attacking Iran and you know, getting its port at Fujairah attacked and really pushing the limits of its own existence as has Bahrain.
102:46That really tells you what could happen if Trump attacks Iran again or allows Israel to attack. Israel really wants to attack. Netanyahu is facing the collapse of his coalition.
103:00United Torah Judaism, one of the main ultra-Orthodox parties, is threatening to pull out over the Haredi conscription bill.
103:08And if Israel went to elections today, Netanyahu's opponents would form a coalition with over 60 seats and Likud would lose. Those opponents being uh Yair Lapid, Naftali Bennett, Avigdor Lieberman, and um Gadi Eizenkot, the former Israeli chief of staff, who's considered like the left-winger after slaughtering so many people in Gaza.
103:35And by the way >> is on Netanyahu is in trouble and a great way to hold that office is to start another war.
103:41And by the way, there's this weird thing going on this week where Netanyahu says he visited the UAE secretly.
103:48And then the UAE denied it, so it's not true. But then Israel keeps insisting that no, like Netanyahu and another top official Israeli officials did visit.
103:55But the UAE denies it and it's like it's obvious these two are very close allies now through the Abraham Accords. Yeah.
104:03So but then why Israel would go out of its way to say that Netanyahu visited but then the UAE doesn't want to admit it? It's uh it's bizarre. I I don't really have a handle on what happened there except it's I I believe Israel when they say that Netanyahu >> Oh yeah. Netanyahu said that Mohammed bin Zayed, the Crown Prince, picked him up from the airport and drove him to his palace. Yes. Or the Israelis are saying that. I think what they're trying to do is force the UAE into their corner and to uh ice out factions in the UAE which want a more conciliatory relationship to Iran because those factions have been there
104:40and they have uh been divided over the issue of Iran inside the UAE. Mhm. Obviously, the Epstein Accords Epstein class faction won out with the Abraham Accords.
104:52But there must be some some strategy there where they're trying to force the UAE to acknowledge the relationship with Israel more directly even though they've already normalized.
105:02It's weird. Well, one of the benefits of being an ally of Israel is they will embarrass you and sell you out at any every opportunity just to get their way as they're doing now to MBZ who clearly didn't want it known that Netanyahu secretly visited him, but They're they're screwing MBZ, they're screwing Trump.
105:18Uh they're trying to force Trump back into this war.
105:21They destroyed Kamala Harris's ambition.
105:24They they Joe Biden. I mean, not that they didn't have agency in deciding to provide Israel with all the tools it needed to commit genocide, but you know, where's that DNC report?
105:40So, Netanyahu goes to I mean, on this note Netanyahu shows up at the home of some of his US friends, Simon Falic and family.
105:52The the Falic family are the heirs who are the owners of Duty Free Americas and they support some of the most extreme settlement projects in Israel, including Har Homa, which kicks Palestinians out of their homes physically in East Jerusalem and steals their home titles.
106:09They support the Temple Movement, which aims to replace the Haram al-Sharif al-Aqsa compound with a third Jewish temple, which would mean religious warfare, destroying third holiest site in Islam.
106:22And Netanyahu from the site of the Falic family home which I think is in New Jersey conducts an interview with 60 Minutes.
106:31CBS 60 Minutes, CBS editor-in-chief and self-described Zionist fanatic Bari Weiss allows Netanyahu to choose his interviewer. He says, "Do you want Leslie Stahl this this dinosaur who will sort of maybe ask some critical questions or Major Garrett of Fox News who's, you know obviously Netanyahu goes with Major Garrett.
106:55Major Goyet.
106:57>> [laughter] >> And he That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
107:05And here's the message that Netanyahu sends from the Falic family home, the Falic Falic family home with Major Goyem as interviewer delivering this softball interview >> [laughter] >> to the United States and to the Trump administration. Is the war with Iran over? And if it isn't, who will decide when it is?
107:29I think it accomplished a great deal, but it's not over because there's still nuclear material enriched uranium that has to be taken out of Iran.
107:37Uh there is still uh enrichment sites that have to be dismantled.
107:42There are still proxies that Iran supports. There are ballistic missiles that they still uh want to produce. Now, we have degraded a lot of it, but all of that is still there and there's work to be done. How do you envision the highly enriched uranium will be removed from Iran?
108:00You go in and you take it out. With what? Special forces from Israel?
108:04Special forces from the United States?
108:06Well, I'm not going to talk about military means, but the president What President Trump has said to me, "I want to go in there." And I think it can be done physically. That's not the problem.
108:13If you have an agreement and you go in and you take it out, why not? That's the best way. What if there isn't an agreement? Can it be taken out by force?
108:20Well, you're going to ask me these questions. I'm going to dodge them because I'm not going to talk about our military possibilities, plans, or anything of the kind. And I'm just trying to get at how long is it going to take to achieve that aim? I'm not going to give a timetable to it, but I'm going to say that's a terrifically important issue.
108:38So, he's suggesting that the US should stage a special forces operation to steal Iran's {quote} "nuclear dust" as Trump calls it.
108:50And uh at the same time there should be a deal to do that, but Iran will never agree to that deal.
108:56By the way, um credit to Anya Parampil for the Major Goats reference. She writes a lot of my best jokes.
109:04>> Great job, Anya. Honestly, that's >> [laughter] >> That's a knee-slapper. That's That's one of the best I I've I've heard. Uh and when Netanyahu says uh yeah, it's not over and and you go in, what he means is US forces will go in. So, what he's saying is US forces will go in and die on my behalf. Yep. Yep.
109:22>> That's That's what he's saying. We're doing it for Israel.
109:26We're doing it to help Israel.
109:28That's why we're there.
109:31Um Wyatt Reed has been our our colleague Wyatt Reed at The Gray Zone has been in Iran doing some incredibly important reporting. Uh he has a new package out a new piece out from Gandhi Hospital, which Israel bombed, which was [snorts] one of the most advanced hospitals in Iran. It was bombed as Israel bombed uh civilian broadcaster TV station across the street.
110:03Uh 20,000 embryos were destroyed from the IVF clinic in Gandhi Hospital. Over a dozen patients injured. It was horrible.
110:11And he's continuing his reporting from Lebanon. He's been in and out of southern Lebanon. Um we have one report up by Wyatt from southern Lebanon at the funeral of a family of nine who were slaughtered by Israel um in the town of Jibchit.
110:26Um the funeral was held in Saida for fear that it would be attacked.
110:32He's got some more important reporting coming up. So, watch The Gray Zone for that. And we'll have Wyatt on next week to discuss it.
110:44Uh what's happening in Lebanon is very significant and shocking in many ways.
110:52The Lebanese government, which has really no mandate, its Prime Minister Najib Salam was a US-backed functionary who has no political party, and Joseph Aoun, its president, is just like a corrupt warlord, is violating the Lebanese constitution by sending representatives to to directly with Israel in Washington. Now, as we speak and tomorrow.
111:16And they're meeting with the Israeli ambassador who uh I think is the Yeah, they're they're Yekiel Leiter, who's a former settlement activist, settler activist.
111:28And uh Michael Needham is the US representative overseeing this, who was Marco Rubio's main handler, who is Marco Rubio's main handler.
111:39And what they're negotiating is the total surrender of Lebanese sovereignty.
111:44They're discussing a plan in which Israel will agree to remove its troops who have been carrying out all these atrocities in southern Lebanon within 2 years. You think they'll really abide by that?
111:56The same way they abided by the last ceasefire in 2024 when they carried out over a thousand attacks in southern Lebanon?
112:03They're going to agree to withdraw in 2 years on the condition that the Lebanese army treat fellow Lebanese citizens in Hezbollah as enemies and basically stage a civil war to disarm Hezbollah. That's the condition that the Lebanese government is moving towards agreeing to.
112:24And according to the Jerusalem Post, uh this is a plan that involves the CIA.
112:34Jerusalem Post, IDF would withdraw from Lebanon if Hezbollah disarmed as CIA plans to remove terror weapons, meaning uh defensive weapons that Hezbollah is using to defend its territory, Lebanese territory, from Israeli aggressors who are occupying it.
112:52The talks come as IDF carries out strikes in southern Lebanon. It's occupying southern Lebanon. It's killing people in southern Lebanon. It has displaced hundreds of thousands of people from southern Lebanon. They're going to have to be put in a stadium near Beirut uh to be able to find housing.
113:13Israel and Lebanon are expected to agree to an IDF withdrawal from Lebanese territory in exchange for Hezbollah's disarmament.
113:20The report added that the CIA prepared a plan to disarm the Iran-backed terror group. So, the CIA is you know, behind this. The CIA and the Pentagon is also involved in a uh in these talks now. This has also been reported.
113:36They're the forces behind the Lebanese army, which is formally barred from resisting Israel or repelling foreign threats to Lebanese sovereignty. It's simply there to repress Lebanese citizens by Uh what did they do? They destroyed the uh Palestinian refugee camp of Nahr al-Bared in 2007, and now they're going to be expected to carry out a civil war along with right-wing Phalangist forces like Lebanese Forces.
114:11Will that be possible? I don't know.
114:13Hezbollah is not as weak as it was thought to be. Their FPV drones, fiber optic drones, are wreaking havoc on Israeli military positions in southern Lebanon, and Israel currently has no answer for those.
114:27And this is affecting the calculus of Netanyahu, who, as I mentioned, has a coalition that is breaking, and the Israeli public is very frustrated about what's happening in Lebanon, uh about all of the casualties that are coming into Rambam Hospital in Tel Aviv of Israeli reservists and Israeli forces, and it's basically Israeli mercenaries who are there with these excavator machines to destroy the homes of Lebanese people.
114:53They're getting hit hard.
114:55Longer that continues, the hard the weaker Netanyahu's position is.
115:00Uh Uh, but that doesn't mean that if a new government comes in they won't persist with this war. And the Trump administration is determined, it looks to me like they're determined to push Lebanon to civil war. Yeah.
115:11Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's happened before, so they figure in Washington, you know, why can't it happen again, especially if we're behind it. And this is partly what the dirty war in Syria was for is to, you know, take out an ally of Iran and Hezbollah, and also to draw Iran and Hezbollah in to bleed them to help pave the way for finally defeating Hezbollah inside of Lebanon after they get depleted inside of Syria. But instead, Hezbollah, as you've just been talking about, has shown itself to be resilient and can still fight back. And yes, Israel had the successes with the Patriot attacks, which were pretty devastating, and the
115:46assassination of Nasrallah. But when it comes to actually fighting, Israeli soldiers lose whenever they try to go toe-to-toe with Hezbollah in South Lebanon. So, that's why the next, uh, best option from the Israeli-US point of view is to push Lebanon into civil war. And yeah, in Syria, they might find a constituency for that.
116:04There are people inside of Lebanon who don't want Hezbollah to continue to resist Israel and would welcome them being destroyed. But the problem that in the US and Israel faces Hezbollah still has a very strong base of support cuz Hezbollah is the only force inside Lebanon that's deter successfully deterred Israeli aggression, forced Israeli occupiers to leave. And that base hasn't gone away. Um, despite all the pain that Israel has subjected them to, kind of punish civilians simply for existing in areas where there's support for Hezbollah, you know, under the Dahiya doctrine, as we've talked about so many
116:39times, destroying their homes, forcing them to to flee, uh, just to punish them for existing in a country where there's a deterrent to Israeli aggression.
116:48So, I don't think it will work, but I do agree with you that that's what the US is going to try.
116:54Yeah, and if If look at the last elections, like the constituency for Hezbollah and Amal is substantial. It's like 1/3 of the Lebanese voting public. They got like 30%.
117:06Uh It's also why I It's also why I believe they've delayed a census for a very, very long time. Yeah, cuz if they were to update uh sort of the proportion of of of of seats according to the census, then then Hezbollah and its ally Amal would do even better than they currently uh have been, right? I think.
117:25Yep. Yeah. Yep. And the Sunni parties, many of the Sunni parties do do not support normalization with Israel, uh despise Israel, but may not support Hezbollah, but they do not support normalization.
117:41And what this government is pushing is normalization under cover of ceasefire.
117:47And can Israel actually hold to any ceasefire? Does it not have territorial designs in Lebanon? Of course it does.
117:53Yeah. This is what the Lebanese public needs to understand, including the Christians who have uh been in the past allies of Israel, is that Israel has territorial ambitions inside Lebanon.
118:07And that if you don't resist them now, you're going to have to resist them later or just give up your land. They want the Litani River. The Litani River will be a major source of fresh water for Israeli irrigation, and Israel faces a water crisis.
118:22That was the reason why Israel invaded back in '82.
118:25Uh the buffer zone is a cover for settlements. This is what National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir said just today.
118:41The settlements are huge, wonderful aspirations.
118:46And and we've inherited the land.
118:52We have the right to encourage the ethnic cleansing of Gaza to promote the ethnic cleansing of the West Bank.
119:05Which he calls Judea and Samaria.
119:11And to settle in Lebanon, to build settlements in Lebanon. This is on Jerusalem Day, the the the the racist Jew Klux Klan marched through the old city of Jerusalem that happens every year in Jerusalem and he's addressing the Judeo-Nazi faithful. Yeah. To settle in Lebanon and they're cheering for him.
119:31So, you're being lied to and this ceasefire will end in complete disaster.
119:41And look what happened in Gaza. Uh, there was a ceasefire there supposedly reached. Uh, Hamas fulfilled its obligations releasing the last captives.
119:50Has Israel fulfilled a single obligation? You know, uh, people in Gaza are still being bombed every day. I think today one of the latest attacks was on an apartment building killing uh, at least three people. Last time I checked it's probably more by now.
120:05Uh, not allowing in any construction equipment to rebuild at least some of the damage. There's rat infestations in the tents where people are are sheltering. Israel's fulfilled basically none of its obligations.
120:17And that's how Israel does deals. It just it reaps all the benefits and carries out none of its requirements because it's a um, entitled arrogant occupying power bent on stealing more land including not only in the occupied territories of Palestine but in Syria where they seize more land um, after helping overthrow the government of Bashar al-Assad and and Lebanon as people like Itamar Ben-Gvir openly brag about. Yeah. Yeah, and a great point. I mean, Netanyahu also said on Jerusalem Day that uh everyone said in Gaza I was going to make concessions. We got all of our hostages back and I took 60% of
120:56their land through the yellow line. I actually he actually boasts of violating the ceasefire plan and stealing the land in Gaza for uh Lebensraum for greater Israel. And this is him catering to his settler base. Israel is just openly now a settler nation. The settlement movement has won.
121:16And so they do have territorial designs in Lebanon. And withdrawing on a timeline of 2 years is ridiculous. The Lebanese government is selling out the Lebanese people. If Lebanon is to retain its sovereignty, uh they're going to have to topple that government somehow.
121:34I don't I don't know how I don't know how else it can happen.
121:37Um but we will be following Wyatt Reed's reporting. I think he's going to have some really important reports in the current in the next few days that we're working on already at the Gray Zone. So, follow us there. I guess just really quickly I got to get out of here um and I'm sure you do too, but uh any any thoughts about the China summit?
122:00Well, I'm unclear as to what Trump got from it. He brought a bunch of uh oligarchs including Elon Musk. And it seems clear Trump wants to do business with China.
122:11Uh I don't think he has these sort of ideological hostility to it that some of his predecessors do.
122:18Uh but what did he get out of this? Uh it's it's not really clear to me. He certainly seemed very friendly with Xi Jinping and it openly praised him.
122:26So, if I'm looking for a positive like you know, I'm seeing in Trump not this sort of you know, traditional neocon hostility to China that most US presidents have. At the same time, the guy is so full of hubris and his administration is ultimately Israel first.
122:44And I think that's his top priority is to um you know, continue cementing US-Israeli hegemony in West Asia. I think he wanted Xi Jinping's buy-in to that, which he of course he he's not going to get. But I'm unclear as to what really the result of this trip is. Uh no major deals as far as I know were were announced, so I'm unclear what he got except for, you know, like a big photo op with with a leader that he clearly personally likes.
123:14Well, I think this was a a pivotal summit in a way.
123:19Uh looking back uh to the early earlier part of the 19th century, maybe like 1830, China was a world trading power. It had silver and porcelain that the British needed. It was developing these cosmopolitan cities. It was extremely wealthy, and the British Empire sought out war to bring China to its knees, flood China with opium, working with certain sinister banking families to usher in a century of Chinese humiliation.
123:54And China began to emerge from that darkness with the Long March led by Mao Zedong, and you know, certainly suffered several setbacks following that, but you know, Nixon going to China, ushering in the Sino-Soviet split, uh Deng Xiaoping making China an export power, and uh becoming the again an economic engine of the world and buying time to develop China internally. China has finally started to rise again as a world power under Xi, and I think what we witnessed was almost a transferring of power, a passing of baton, a passing of the baton from the west to the East here, uh which is why Trump was escorted by
124:41all of these business titans along with some crypto scammers and media con men, uh because they're seeking deals in China as we enter the Chinese century.
124:53This is going to be the Chinese century.
124:56Everybody knows it. Francis Fukuyama, uh who once pronounced the end of history said that the Chinese model is looking more appealing to people throughout the world than the US model.
125:08Um its cities are starting to look better.
125:11Uh you know, I just visited with the uh writer um Substacker Shaun McCarthy passed through DC and I I met him for the first time and he told you know, he was on an Amtrak trip across the US.
125:27And he told me that he traveled uh from the distance in China between Washington and Chicago and it took him 4 hours. And he just rode Amtrak from Washington to Chicago and it took him like over 12 hours.
125:44Somewhat grueling trip. Yeah. China's infrastructure is just outpacing ours.
125:49And I bet you that that Amtrak tran- time for his trip hasn't changed since like the 1950s or whenever, you know.
125:56Yeah.
125:56>> Like there's there's been no progress whatsoever, whereas other countries like China, it's a much different story.
126:03And uh you know, I guess we can thank Chinese immigrants for helping to build our railroads under some pretty brutal slave-like conditions.
126:12And those who want to see mass deportations, who want to see Chinese students um ejected from US universities, who want to see the Confucius Institutes come under [snorts] uh scrutiny and basically be banned, who want to keep BYD Chinese electric vehicles out of the US, which in um you know I think you know the UAE the United Auto Workers would want that along with GM.
126:39Uh people who want China to be banned from buying large swaths of land inside the US.
126:48Many of those would be this the the base of the so-called America First movement that brought Donald Trump into power are sorely disappointed by the statements and commitments that Donald Trump made at this summit.
127:04Donald Trump is opening the US up to unprecedented levels of Chinese investment. He has said that the US needs Chinese students now.
127:13He's sounding a softer tone on immigration than he ever has. He said he needs that to keep the price of universities up. In other words, he needs that to to make tuition higher for American citizens so that university administrators can be paid more.
127:28Uh I mean he's saying it all.
127:31He sounded he he he praised Confucius in his speech in China.
127:37He also sounded extremely weak um on the issue of Chinese support for Iran which has been important.
127:49issue and you've been asked about it and you've spoken about it and that is China's support of Iran.
127:58How big a discussion was that today? We discussed it.
128:01Uh I mean when you say support they're not fighting a war with us or anything. No.
128:07Yeah, he said he's not going to give military equipment. That's a big statement. He said that today. That's a big statement.
128:13Said that strongly.
128:15But at the same time he said, you know, they buy a lot of their oil there and they'd like to keep doing that.
128:20The issue >> [laughter] >> He's like, "Yeah, well, I mean, you know, it doesn't matter. They buy a lot of Iranian oil, so it's okay. And you know, Trump he looks weak. He looks very weak there.
128:31He just waged war on Iran.
128:35And and now he's he's essentially he's not making any of these deals in China conditional on China stopping support for Iran because Iran has defeated the United States military.
128:48He doesn't have the cards as he told Zelensky.
128:50>> Yep.
128:51He doesn't have the cards and he played himself.
128:55And uh he's going to have to find his way out of this again while without making an actual diplomatic agreement with Iran, which he won't do.
129:05But yeah, um so I guess I mean my takeaway from from Trump's visit to China it's it's encouraging. There's a sign of weakness there, which is a good thing to see. Uh a president chastened uh and sort of having to be conciliatory towards another world power and that's why we're not going to be hearing any more about the so-called Uighur genocide. Which was uh introduced in Trump's first term. Right? By Mike Pompeo.
129:31Uh but that was used clearly at a time when there was the hope that the US would hand China a grand strategic defeat and that hasn't worked. And so now Trump goes over there groveling. Uh and uh trying to be a partner.
129:45You know, I I just hope that all of this will lead to some kind of Iran war syndrome as the Vietnam war did. Yeah. Where the US will be forced to think twice about making war. Yeah.
129:57I don't I don't I don't think we're there yet. Partly because there were not enough American casualties and I do not want another American casualty in a war for Israel.
130:07But there should be some reflection here.
130:10And the the US empire has been severely weakened.
130:17But the mindset of the US empire remains fanatical. So I don't think we're there yet.
130:26But, it's important to look at this China summit as a vision of the US brought to its the US empire brought to its weakest point in history through the Iran war. The Iran war looms large over this summit. And it's also a portrait of the US oligarchy, of a very corrupt oligarchy headed by some absolutely cretinous figures who China clearly views with contempt, but must also work with.
131:00And you know, is wise enough not to They're not They're wise enough not to hate their adversary. I mean, let's consider who was running an entire department for Donald Trump laying off thousands of people in the federal government. It's this guy.
131:16This is Elon in Beijing.
131:19>> [snorts] >> They're They're They're taking selfies with Elon while he's having some kind of like ketamine-induced freak out.
131:32Oh, man. He's geeking out.
131:37I would love to see those selfies, too.
131:45One thing I wanted to mention, too.
131:46>> good metaphor for the state of US government and US diplomacy.
131:52One thing I wanted to mention in the context especially of you know, China spending on its infrastructure as opposed to the US's, the Trump administration is asking for a record $1.5 trillion Pentagon budget. And Pete Hegseth just recently made this really clunky video, you know, trying to make a sales pitch to the average American basically saying that this is Now, we're being efficient. The The The age of uh industrial profiteering and that's over. We're giving you a better deal. So, you know, they haven't waved the white flag.
132:22They're trying to double down on hegemony by diverting even more taxpayer money towards this bloated military industrial complex.
132:30Uh but, if you look if you watch that video of Pete Hegseth, it's so cartoonish, it's so lame. It's like they barely put in any effort. So, it's like they don't it's like they know sort of no one buys them anymore. So, buys their line anymore. So, they don't even bother to make an effort, but they are still All the Republican senators will buy their line, and every American family must pay $4,000 to fund that budget. Yeah. And what it is, I mean, what is it? It really I'm glad you brought that up. It really speaks to the American economic model, the oligarchic economic model versus the Chinese model,
133:06which is centrally planned, and where corruption can be punished with capital punishment.
133:12This is reverse socialism, where we are essentially funding the upper class and upper middle class, who are corrupt contractors. That $1.5 trillion is not is not going to the troops.
133:25It's not needed for the troops. It's not going to pay for veterans.
133:30It's not going for necessary military equipment. How the hell did Donald Trump's sons both get contracts with drone companies, including one that's owned by an by an Israeli company uh with the Pentagon?
133:45It's going to pay the Trump family. It's going to pay all the corrupt contractors. It's going to uh provide jobs for the upper middle class, who are the urban cadre and suburban cadre for the upper class. And we are going to pay for it. The average person is going to pay for it. Someone much average than us podcasters and journalists.
134:06Um I don't think most journalists are average anyway, but uh or normal.
134:10They're some of the most messed up people I've ever met, but that's a completely tangential point.
134:16This is revert This It's It's more upward transfer of wealth.
134:22And it's the basis of the US economy as our industrial base has been completely hollowed out. And that's why the Chinese model is succeeding or why the Iranian military model succeeded.
134:34Iran's military is sleek and streamlined. It's an asymmetrical model that defeated the US with cheap Shahed drones, which the US had to reverse engineer into its so-called Lucas drones. That's how pathetic and corrupt and bloated the US military itself has become.
134:51Yeah.
134:52And since you mentioned Trump's sons and their profiteering, I just want to take the opportunity to apologize to Hunter Biden for ever talking about him. Um whose corruption pales in comparison to what we're seeing what we're seeing now.
135:03It seems so quaint.
135:05To compare Hunter He's He's like a model of integrity.
135:09>> [laughter] >> Bring back the days of Burisma. Yeah.
135:14Yeah. Yeah.
135:16We should feature some of his art on our next show. We should.
135:20>> [laughter] >> Bring back Burisma. That should be the That should be the the slogan for the next campaign of whatever whatever psycho or like Josh Shapiro or whatever.
135:34Oh, man.
135:36Yeah, it's it's it's uh The mask is off.
135:43We got the richest man in the world geeking out on ketamine on camera at a China summit.
135:53And it's almost like gets lost in the din of corruption scandals and insider trading. It's hard to keep track of it all. But that's what we're we're here for. We try to keep tabs like Timothy Leary kept Not like Timothy Leary kept tabs, more like you know, keeping records. And we're continuing to do uh we're reporting from the field. Uh Wyatt Reed is staying out there uh at some level of risk. Southern Lebanon is a dangerous place.
136:26And uh he has more reports of a report coming uh featuring the daily lives of first responders who have been targeted and killed by the Israeli military who are doing extremely heroic work in the field in Southern Lebanon. Uh and he'll have some reporting on the negotiations and how Lebanese people really feel about these illegal negotiations with Israel. So, uh keep following us. Aaron, I don't know if there's anything you want to add before we go.
136:57Want to mention briefly that there has been some developments in the OPCW scandal story. Uh Dr. Brenda Wheelan, the key whistleblower of the original report that was censored in the Dume cover-up, he recently won his case uh against the OPCW before an international tribunal. OPCW was forced to pay damages to him uh and withdraw a censure that they had issued against him. In the process of that case, they also admitted to censoring a key piece of evidence that we've been highlighting for a very long time, the toxicologist findings that undermined allegations of a Syrian government chemical attack. They
137:31inadvertently admitted to censoring that for the first time in this you know, eight-year-plus cover-up scandal. And uh there'll be more on that at The Grayzone soon.
137:41Yeah, here's the piece we have up at The Grayzone now, but we will have a new one up soon.
137:46Highly protected OPCW confirms it buried critical evidence in Syria chemical weapons probe. The OPCW, Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, has finally acknowledged concealing the assessment of German military toxicologists who ruled out chlorine gas as the cause of dozens of deaths in the alleged Douma chemical attack of April 2018. So, you know, in case you needed more evidence that we were lied to and that a chemical attack was staged in Douma, which Douma, Syria in April 2018, which triggered bombings by the US, France, and Britain on Syria, a false flag incident. Well, here it is.
138:30It's some of the most authoritative evidence yet.
138:35And I would just put the question out there. There's been regime change in Syria.
138:40A Western aligned Al-Qaeda rebranded government is in power in Damascus. They just signed a deal with Visa and MasterCard to put Syrians in debt and keep them in debt according to the Western economic model of debt slavery. And they have free reign over the whole country. The White Helmets can go wherever they want. So, where are the chemical weapons? Show us the CW. They haven't done it yet.
139:09They'll find it somehow. I think they're still working on staging it somewhere.
139:13Um, you know, if they're bothering to make an attempt at all and it speaks to the power of our propaganda system. When it's happening, when the regime change campaign is happening, you can't challenge these narratives. If you do, you're smeared, you're dismissed, as we've both faced. Once the regime change succeeds, it's over. It doesn't matter anymore and everyone moves on to the next deception.
139:33Yep. By that time the damage has been done. Yeah.
139:37But we won't forget.
139:40And we will continue uh this reporting.
139:43I'm glad you're you're staying on this.
139:45Uh, so look for that very shortly.
139:48Aaron, thanks a lot for joining us as always. This was a great stream. We covered a lot of ground.
139:56Uh, thanks everyone for watching.
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