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10:47live on. I'm Jimmy Door.
10:50Hi everybody. Welcome to today's show.
10:51We got a big show. Uh Christian Parent is coming on later to give us the scoop on what the United States real problem is with Cuba. or do you say Kuba?
11:02Uh we also uh will have on uh Nick Holster later to talk about sunscreen actually gives you cancer. We've covered it before but there's a new study out even proving it more. Uh but up first a special guest uh Ana Permpel. She is the Washington DCbased journalist contributor to the gray zone. She has produced and reported several documentaries including on the ground reports from Korean Peninsula, Palestine, Venezuela, and Honduras. And she even wrote a book about Venezuela called Corporate Coup Venezuela and the End of the US Empire. Is currently ranked number one on Amazon in the Venezuelan history category. Welcome to
11:40the show, Ana Pel. Yes. [laughter] >> Yes, it is.
11:44>> Oh, you know how to sell my book better than I do.
11:47>> Fantastic. She's here also. Uh Kurt Mexican is with us. America's comedian Kurt Mex the star >> was cobbalist actually Jimmy I don't know if you know that >> I did not Kurt is the star of mystery boys podcast number one on the charts >> is it >> I don't know it was at some point it was uh so I have we want to talk about there was an earthquake there were actually two earthquakes in Venezuela and as of July 3rd the official death toll from the June 24th twin earthquakes magnitude 7.2 2 and 7.5. Those are big. Uh it stands at 2595 death. The figure has risen steadily uh with ongoing rescue and recovery
12:30efforts. Key details over 1200 12,500 people were injured. Some uh missing tens of thousands remain unaccounted for raising concerns that the final death toll could be significantly higher. Uh some forensic workers and officials on the ground believe the official count under reppresents the true number. The earthquakes cause widespread destruction especially in coastal areas near Karacas and Laguara.
13:01International aid continues to support search and recovery figures. So I just want to show you a little bit of this.
13:07This is satellite images from Laguara.
13:09Am I saying that correctly, Anya?
13:11Laguara.
13:12>> Laguara. Laguira and this is going to show you the devastation caused by the double earthquake. Let's watch a little bit of it.
13:23Boom.
13:26>> Whoa.
13:42It looks like It looks like Lebanon and Israel is bombing it, but it's not. It's an earthquake.
13:53Wow.
14:04Wow. So that's some pretty heavy duty stuff. Uh what are you hear what are you hearing from Venezuela on the devastation on you >> that it's unimaginable looking at that?
14:16I mean can you imagine the horror of the people that were inside those buildings?
14:20It just I it's hard to even watch. And so it's been shock for my friends in Venezuela. You know my my closest friend there Diego Sakiraa who I write about a lot in the book. He, you know, couldn't even get out in the first initial days because Caracus and Laguida were Laguida is like the epicenter of where it was.
14:41That's about a 45minut drive away from Caracus. That's where the airport is and and that's where there was this capital city of of the state there, Lagua. It's not the capital of Venezuela, but of of the state, the neighboring state. And that's where most of the destruction took place. and just to get there now is almost impossible because of uh the military and and the fact that now it's a militarized zone so people can't even get in or out. And so those are you know that's a friend who I'm relying on going out every day and just hearing how gradually you he sees the reality of of the devastation and how how bad it is
15:21because it's like you can't really process it until you just see it piece by piece. I don't even think that we can from these videos. And so I I but then at the same time we are it's this very tricky fascinating time for Venezuela politically because they'd already kind of started this process of opening to the United States, partnering with the United States questions about how close the current administration is with the United States and the fact that they were conducting air strikes on Venezuelan territory. the US military was before this earthquake. That was already a major red line that had been
15:59crossed in terms of the the takeover of Venezuela's sovereignty or the destruction. And so for this earthquake to come just months into this soft coup since the US removed the the elected leader and put in a vice president, yes, but has been changing the character of of the country a little bit. Uh the timing couldn't have been better for the objectives of the US military to now be on the ground in Venezuela. You see American troops in Venezuelan military trucks and you have the Israelis for the first time Israeli people allowed in Venezuela uh since 2008 when Chavez kicked the Israeli embassy staff out of
16:42the country in response to the war that Israel waged in Gaza that year in 2008.
16:51I forget which one that was. Of course, Mac. This is where Max would know exactly the name of the of the operation. But they uh Chavez ended relations with Israel at that time and has always Venezuela since was always very vocal in its support for the Palestinian resistance, the axis of resistance and very vocal in opposition to the Israelis. I mean, Maduro absolutely himself was was very critical of Israel. And so now to see the government thanking Israel for their presence in the country, that's that's quite remarkable because, you know, it's one thing to sit back and say they were hit by a catastrophe.
17:34You're going to take all the help you could get. Um, I'm not sure if Iran, for example, would accept an Israeli uh rescue team if their country got hit by a a devastating earthquake, but hopefully we never have to consider that. It's just >> if they're there and then they're making your government thank Israel out of like every other country that's there. It just seems like it's almost a humiliation ritual at that point. And so that is very bizarre and extreme to see as someone who has covered this government or this movement of Shabismo for quite some time.
18:07So, let me you bring up that's interesting because there are reports of Israelis on the ground there. So, I'm going to get >> I say that's conspiracy talk and I have to object.
18:18>> Okay.
18:20But we're going to get to that in a second. But first, the thing I want to bring up is that when there was a earthquake back in 2010, Chavez declared that uh I mean in Haiti, he declared that Hades earthquake was the clear result of the US Navy test. Meanwhile, Venezuela So, let's let's watch a little bit of this from RT. And Venezuelan leader Ugo Chavez has once again accused the United States of playing God. But this time it's Hades disastrous earthquake that he thinks the US was behind. Spanish newspaper ABC quotes Chavez as saying that the US Navy launched a weapon capable of inducing a powerful
19:00earthquake off the shore of Haiti. He adds that this time it was only a drill and the final target is destroying and taking over Iran. The existence of a tectonic weapon has never been proved, but its use is often suspected by conspiracy theorists. For example, the leader of Georgia's Green Party accused Russia of being behind an earthquake on Georgian territory in 2002.
19:24>> So, it's always a conspiracy theory. Uh there's conspiracies that happen every day. Every war is a conspiracy theory.
19:32911 uh the official story is a conspiracy theory of 18 hijackers. So those so that it's just funny how they've weaponized and made that word toxic even though conspiracies happen all the time. People are charged in courtrooms across the world with conspiracies every day. I just want to go back to what she was talking about.
19:50>> And theories are things that we often assume are true. Like the theory of gravity, that's what we call it.
19:56[laughter] >> Yeah. The theory of evolution. Yes.
19:59>> Exactly.
19:59>> So Chavez, this is from live science.
20:01Chavez, US tectonic weapon caused Haiti quake. A tectonic weapon under testing by the United States caused the Haiti earthquake. According to the Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez, who appears to have uh more of a sci-fi background than we thought, President Chavez said the US was playing God by testing devices capable of creating echoype catastrophes, the Spanish newspaper quoted. Chavez said the killer earthquake followed a test of a weapon of earthquakes just offshore from Haiti.
20:31Apparently, the media in Venezuela have reported that the earthquake may be associated with the project called HARP.
20:38H AARP, which is different than AAP, uh system that can generate violent and unexpected changes in climate. HARP, a highfrequency active oral research program, is a study run in Alaska directed by the occasional reconfiguration of the properties of the Earth's ionosphere to improve satellite communications.
21:01That's what [laughter] it is.
21:02>> Don't forget uh Ice Cube Nutrino detector that my buddy Eric Hecker worked at, the one Rathon built.
21:08>> So tell so talk about this. That's why I have So tell me about harps.
21:11>> Well, harps ef waves ext extra low frequency uh of the waves and you can bounce those off the ionosphere to do all kinds of stuff. Not just uh earthquakes. The earthquake thing is kind of like you know glass shattering from a opera singer. It's it is basically that effect. But if you read that mind war paper that Paul Vali TPUSA great Paul Vallei [laughter] and Michael Aino, you know the Satanist with the weird eyebrows wrote. Yeah. They said you could affect people's moods with it. And all back then when he was saying this, there were all movies coming out showing depicting this Kingsman that first one
21:48shows where everybody's cell phone makes them go crazy. Remember the Rwanda genocide where they ran those planes C130s with mini harp equipment in it and everybody goes crazy. You could do a lot of stuff with frequency. You make people see flying saucers.
22:02>> You do a little plasma light show I bet.
22:04So what was the tell remind me of the uh the thing from the Antarctica?
22:10>> So nutrinos are these massless particles or almost massless particles that normally only come from space and they had they had to go to Antarctica because there's no interference from other particles or something. And then this only reason I became aware of it is because they were talking about how crazy it was that they were detecting nutrinos coming out of the earth by Antarctica. And I was like oh that's weird. Then I don't know about a year later I see Eric Hecker in that wave of uh whistleblower and his story isn't anything with space aliens. It's about how Rathon built some kind of uh direct
22:40energy weapon and and of course it is.
22:42Of course it's that. And he said he thought the New Zealand uh >> earthquake >> Christurch earthquakes were friendly fire from testing it out because he's a sweet naive kid. But me as a cynic, I know John Kerry got all the people out, all the American representatives out on his way down to Antarctica to check on the ice caps instead of going to that convention.
23:02Real real weird weird coincidences before these earthquakes. Fukushima they were saying that about because uh Japan supposedly had sold some uranium to Iran or something. I don't know how far-fetched that is but they have that stuff. They just admitted to the same stuff from uh uh uh Havana syndrome which was debunked but they paid out restitution to the victims of it. So we tested on our own people. That's what that means. Uh oh and they were having MK Ultra hearings. All this stuff is connected. It's the same technology.
23:32Voice to skull all that stuff.
23:34Uh we talked about this just the other day because of the MK Ultra hearings at the Congress and how they can put voices in your head and they've admitted to being able to do this and so uh anyway um so there's that part of the story. Is this a real earthquake? Was the who knows? But a bigger part of the story I think maybe is that there's kidnappings of children being reported. Now, we can't confirm any of this. Um, >> like Haiti, >> but but it was similar to what happened in Haiti. Let me play this for you.
24:06>> Something just really got me this morning. I was watching videos coming out of Venezuela.
24:13And what's going on there is worse than what we can imagine. Now, I don't have all the answers. Um, all I can do is use my platform and my following to raise awareness on this issue because apparently a lot of the people looking for family members, the uh the police and military aren't allowing them to get to the areas that they need to get to.
24:35But the real disturbing thing that's going on is that apparently they are taking uh traumatized and orphaned children um to use for child trafficking, which breaks my heart obviously because well I mean how evil can you get? I mean to use something as horrific as what's happened to then uh go to the next step and then start taking the children is just a a stain on humanity.
25:05It's not even humans doing it. These people are evil. They're not even like us, right? But this is what we're dealing with. And on top of that, the police are robbing what's left of the uh of anything people own out of the rubble. They're just taking stuff and um it's just horrific. Like I say, I I don't have all the answers. Um you know, those people are I I'm very close to Latin America. I live in Mexico. So, I know what the people are like and I just want to share their suffering and the hope that it raises awareness on the issue because what's going on out there is far worse than any of us can imagine.
25:48So, please share this So I I just want to Anya, do you have any uh information about the looting or what the police and the military are doing?
26:00>> I mean I've seen videos and and and you know there are instances obviously of people taking advantage of this situation. I don't think that there would be any denying that, especially in a country that is very poor and and and wasn't experiencing its greatest years as as we've covered many times on the show, the role of US sanctions and the the long war that they've waged on Venezuela in creating that situation.
26:24But then once something like this happens anywhere, it's hard. I mean, it's difficult to imagine that people do this, but it's also hard to believe to deny that that that there are people that take advantage of of not just the situation to loot, but then to take advantage of the most vulnerable people, children. And that's something that we saw in Haiti. And and and there are rumors that it's much worse than we knew. and and and so it wouldn't doubt I wouldn't doubt that there are uh forces working to to to to take advantage of children in Venezuela as well. The issue that I saw with this clip is that a lot
27:03of people shared it a especially those in the opposition to the government which at this point like I said things are very complicated there the the government even though it was it's chismo still in power and they are uh claiming and to to guard the revolution and and carry on the legacy of Maduro and Chavez. There were already very many people that were critical that it Venezuela had already turned over some of its sovereignty, too much of its sovereignty to the United States. And what now critics of that government are doing that want to overthrow the government and have for years are doing is using this as justification to say
27:39this is why we need total US military occupation of the country. So, if people are worried about children getting abused in Venezuela, we have to ask ourselves, well, is the US military the force that's going to come in and protect children? Are are Israeli rescuers or any >> we're going to oversee the operation?
27:57>> Who is honestly? Which which organizations are um equipped?
28:02>> Laura Silsby.
28:04>> Yeah.
28:05>> The Clinton Foundation will be there to help.
28:07>> Yeah. Nobody, all of these institutions pretty much have no legitimacy in the eyes of people anymore. And people know that they're a scam after the experience of Haiti. So, and now you have Trump registering his company to start uh shipping products and and rebuilding Venezuela. And definitely now the US is is in there. So, the the the children narrative at this point is is I I'm sure that that there are dark things going on. I'm sure that it's going to be used to justify further US intervention.
28:43And at this point, uh, it just is a complete flip from where Venezuela would have been when I was covering it 5 years ago.
28:54I would have thought we would have thought that China and Russia, maybe even Iran were leading the rescue efforts as as Venezuela's allies. But on the other hand, it's like those countries were so far away, maybe it wasn't practical to think that Venezuela could be totally reliant on them. In fact, it would be better if the US and Venezuela had this cooperation and we were acting in good faith. Like that's what I would like. The problem is I don't trust the people running my government. You know, if the US government were a normal government, then yeah, I I would say we should go in there and help the Venezuelan military
29:29recover children, but I don't trust I don't trust uh the people in Washington to do that.
29:35>> So, you So, you have a legitimate fear that they're going to use this crisis or maybe even manufacture a bigger crisis of child trafficking than maybe is uh to justify more US military occupation.
29:49Well, that's just what they're using. It it doesn't even matter at this point whether or not this narrative is is what does it because the earthquake itself has created a situation where now the US military and international groups are the only forces working on the ground.
30:04They they've they've come in after paralyzing the Venezuelan state and now that this catastrophe hit, it's kind of like the infrastructure is set up for international aid groups and the US military to just take over Venezuela.
30:19That's what they're that's what they're doing. Um, do you remember Indonesian earthquakes when the same thing happened and then and and you know I don't know it got filtered in the end of the day as like they were kidnapping people for UFO reasons but the main things are earthquake kidnapping is the thing that I focus on because this story keeps happening over and over again. I don't know there's like an earthquake followed by missing kids.
30:41>> So it happens every time. Well, here >> and then we had the guy from Sound of Freedom on that phony >> that was basically just framing and the first the first tip off was he's from Department of Homeland Security and the second is uh oh it was nobody in America is all the bad people in the Brown country doing it right.
30:58>> So that's how they go and steal kids.
30:59They go oh we got to save them from the bad guys down here in Venezuela because our leaders have a 22,000 child a day habit of of kids. I don't know if they snort them or what they do, but they got a big habit.
31:12>> And that's this that's the sad question here is like nobody trusts anybody actually to have the interest of people.
31:18The Venezuelan state you could say was what you would assume should come in and and f and they are like they're in the capacity that they are they were they didn't even have heavy lifting uh vehicles which was so for days people were trapped under the rubble. They weren't able to buy the the equipment needed. So they had it come in from El Salvador and Mexico and so for like over two days people were just trapped under rubble waiting for that but people you know Venezuela has rallied but there's only so much you can do under these conditions when when again this is at this is the end this came at the end of
31:55a long two and a half decade war against this state and now right outside the capitol this death blow comes. It's shocking.
32:07>> Well, remember Syria, it happened to them and it happened to everybody that crosses has an earthquake. It's not just, you know, Michael >> a great point because the earthquake in Syria set the stage for the collapse of the state. I mean, again, it came after a long war. The country had already been at war for a decade, literal civil war.
32:29There were groups, armed militant groups controlling wide swats of the country.
32:33And then suddenly part of it is hit with an earthquake. Oh, and guess what? Now the international aid groups and foreign military forces are there after you've already removed the state and suffocated it. Very convenient. Then of course >> they're going to do it here. It's the big plan.
32:50>> So of course we know that there is a history of this certainly with the United States doing this in Haiti.
32:55American missionaries in Haiti charged with kidnapping that was connected to Bill Clinton and the Clinton Foundation.
33:01the Clinton Foundation.
33:03>> And so, let me just show you this real quick. Um, I want to show you this. This is another video. Mother reports that her daughter was rescued and that when she went to look for her, they changed her surname and she disappeared there.
33:15She So, let's Oh, is this This is all in Spanish.
33:23Okay. So, I don't speak Spanish, so I thought this was translated, but it's not. Uh she reports that they are stealing the children they find alone after the earthquake. That's according to this news report. But I wanted to show you something very suspicious. Uh Israeli soldiers have been spotted in a hotel in Karacus today.
33:44And this was from yesterday July 1st. Uh or I mean from Wednesday. Uh, this would be the first Israeli presence in Venezuela since Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez kicked out Israeli diplomats from Venezuela before cutting all relations with Israel in 2009 because of its war on Gaza then, as you talked about earlier. So, they're that that's not a that's not good. Why Why would they already be there?
34:11>> Why would Israelis they've got enough problems on their hands right now. Iran, Gaza, Lebanon, Yemen. What? What?
34:18occurred. What do you say?
34:19>> Wait, 2009 is that that's way before Shawn Penn killed Chavez, right? I'm I'm kidding. So, okay. Uh, Professor Jiang, he said, "I think I might show that cuz cuz remember there was on Redact and a bunch of players were saying that we use these energy weapons to kidnap Chavez and he has no idea."
34:36>> Well, they admitted to it. They admitted that you that Trump said they used energy weapons.
34:40>> Yeah. So, that's a good clue that they didn't. And he is a CIA. So, Chavez gets killed. Then Maduro takes over. It's very weird. They kidnapped him and his wife for some reason almost like extracting them out of the country. And then the government the Chvista government is still there. He It's just like in Greece when the CIA guy uh ran Greece for a while. Remember uh Gust from that movie with uh Tom Hanks Charlie Wilson's war. The guy Philip Seymour Hoffman played the CIA installed him as the like the president of Greece for a bit. So we do this all the time.
35:12Chavez was the problem. He used to say this stuff all the time and he was crazy, you know. Then he was gone and then Maduro nobody likes. Even people that were leftists were like, I don't like Maduro. You have to just really hate America, you know, understandably so. But my friends with Venezuela and they're not all just rich kids that are bitter about some plantation thing.
35:30Maduro, they it was seen as corrupt.
35:32Look what they do with our government with our fake democracy, right?
35:37>> NOS's hollow us out.
35:39>> So what is this? So, right here she says, "When the US used the 2010 earthquake to militarily occupy Haiti, Chavez said, "I read that 3,000 soldiers are arriving, Marines armed as if they were going to war. Doctors, medicine, fuel, field hospitals, that's what the US should send. They're occupying Haiti undercover." So, it seems like, as your fear before, and so there's the Israeli soldiers already. That's not a good look. And let me just put this uh this is ex CIA director David Steele said Israel was created by criminal Zionist.
36:15Israel is the single greatest sponsor of child kidnapping, child PDF files, child torture, and child body parts harvesting. Children are more profitable than drugs. That was ex CIA director David Steele said that.
36:30And of course, here is Maria Weiss, Israeli anthropologist, and she says, "We do not take organs from Israeli soldiers. We take them from Palestinians or from migrant workers without any consent." Here she is actually saying it.
36:48>> We don't touch soldiers bodies. We take organs from others.
36:56They used to take organs from the bodies of Palestinians.
37:05and then immigrant workers and then they're in a skin bank and it's what is the organ donation rate given to population of Israel almost nothing. She laughs. So Israelis don't donate the organs according to this documentary that was on channel 2 in Israel.
37:24>> Yet they have people recovering Ashkanazi sperm on the battlefield.
37:29That's true.
37:30>> Yeah, they actually are doing that.
37:32They're actually recovering the Ashkanavi sperm. She says, "No, it's because they hardly ever donate Israelis." That's what she's saying. And that's >> Well, this is really anti-Semitic, Jimmy. And I'm not just saying that as a Cabala expert. And okay, uh, >> they don't even tip in organs is what you're trying.
37:48>> So that clip I just showed you has circulated widely online in discussions about historical allegations of organ tissue harvesting by Israeli forensic authorities from Palestinian bodies. It was notable notably tied to admissions by pathologist Uda H, former head of the institute who acknowledged in 2000 interview aired on channel 2 that organs were taken without permission in the 1990s. The practice was later admitted by Israeli authorities to have occurred but claimed to have ended. Oh yeah, I'm sure they stopped. Just like MK Ultra is over and the CIA doesn't overthrow governments anymore. It's all over. It's
38:26all in the past.
38:27>> Why? Of course they stop trying to do that.
38:30>> Of course. Why would the CIA continue to do that when they never try to control everything in their sphere all the time?
38:36>> And just to give you one more piece of info on this, here is Rabbi Ysef Marachi. I'm sure that's not how it's pronounced.
38:46Uh here he's going to admit >> he's gonna he's going to talk about how they did this to Yemen children.
38:53>> They kidnap I don't know how many thousands or hundreds of Yemenite kids.
38:58Today few years ago after Shimon Perez died they found out that he was the one behind it. And the reason why they were kidnapping Yemenite kids because they gave them to United States because in United States they used to make all kinds of experiments on black kids.
39:16Blacks in those days didn't have rights 90 years ago, 100 years ago. They were not like what they are today in America.
39:23It was very difficult to be black in those days. So they they made all kinds of experiments on black kids until the media here started to make noise. What is this? you're doing all kinds of experiments on black kids. It became a lot of noise here. They realized they cannot continue what they are doing.
39:38They needed kids. So Shimon Perez told them, I will give you kids. But in one condition, what's the condition? You will convince the French government to build a nuclear facility in Dimona.
39:54You will tell them that we needed for uh civil reasons, not for nuclear bombs.
40:01We need we need power. The nuclear has much more power than regular electric.
40:06It can make the whole country run. We need it for you know for civil reasons not for army reasons. And the United States made a deal with him and they convinced the French government to send their engineers for few years in Israel.
40:22They were building the core in Deona, the one that you see today. Until the last week, the French naive people and government, they really believed that Israel needs this nuclear for electric.
40:36Only when it was too late, they found out that it was a scam to begin with, that the Israeli never needed it for electric reason. They needed it to create nuclear bombs to threat the anti-semite world that they never be able to attack Israel. This is this this is how they believe. once we have nuclear bombs, >> no one will mess with us.
40:57>> So that's exactly what happened. Then the French were furious when they found out. They went crazy, but it was too late for them. In the meantime, thousands of Yemenites or I don't know the number, that's why I'm careful. It could be hundreds, could be thousands.
41:11They were, you can say, sold to America for that reason.
41:18Why do why do prominent rabbis know this information and also say it like that?
41:23For a minute I thought he was like exposing something. Then I'm like, wait, is he bragging?
41:27>> Sounded like he was bragging. Sound a little bit like he was bragging. So did so am I nuts on you to in your mind to try to to be suspicious of the Israeli soldiers already there on July 1st and this history they have of this uh evil you know child trafficking and organ harvesting?
41:48>> No. And and I can tell you that the Venezuelan chabistas like the average people would say the same thing as you.
41:55I mean come on who trusts the Israelis at this point? who when you let them into your country, what do you think happens? Anything good? Like I I there's not when you think about like a similar scenario. If you knew that there was a person in your town that was like a murderer that killed all of their neighbors and continued to terrorize them and like go on a stabbing spree, would you just be like, "Well, I'm in a crisis in my house. I'm just going to take their help in this one scenario.
42:27Like I don't want to be racist. I would just say this is the last thing that I need.
42:31>> I don't want to be anti-semitic, you know, racist. So, of course, I would I'm very submissive to authority. [laughter] >> So, it it doesn't look good. Uh when you see Israeli soldiers there immediately, >> no.
42:43>> Uh and with a history like this and the history of the United States also what they did in Haiti. Um it's it's not good. It's >> Hey, what became Allora Silsby? Oh, that's right. She works over at Amber Alert as the vice >> vice president. Are you kidding? You know, she actually did time for child trafficking in Haiti and Bill Clinton got a lawyer friend of his to get her sentence reduced.
43:06>> Elder and then a fake rabbi from the DR came and represented her. It looked like he was a Dominican Jewish rabbi. Turned out he was not a rabbi, just some guy.
43:16>> One of the crazy Oh, you know what? We should look out for in this case some uh rock stars to uh tragically hang themselves from a doornob while looking into it. That's the next the next pattern that will pop up. I'm sure.
43:29>> I'm sure. Um well, anything you'd like to uh say about this whole situation, Anya, before we say goodbye.
43:37>> It just breaks my heart.
43:39>> Yeah, >> it breaks my heart because the people of Venezuela did not want any of this. I mean, they didn't want it's just not fair to me, you know? I I really spent a lot of time in that country and just to to think about those places that I've been under the rubble now. It's it's enough after everything that's happened with Gaza. It's like, how did it come to Venezuela like this at this time?
44:04>> The timing was just so stunning. It was like the perfect moment to demolish what remained And I'm sure there are people in Venezuela that are going to say that the state's holding on and that I mean there are like the communes and these different things and an infrastructure there that's outside of Caracus in the capital and that's all hopeful but wow.
44:29I mean is God working on the side of these people or are these people playing God? I guess that's the question that that everybody [laughter] asking.
44:40>> Well, we do that to the kids here. Why wouldn't we do it to Venezuela? Every punk in this country after the Epstein files came out and I people I know just blather nonsense and act like it's no big deal. That should have been the end of everything when that came out, right?
44:55Just cuz they blacked any of it out and didn't release it. But this is a punk ass country that allows anything is depraved. So guess what? They do it here all the time. Of course, we're going to do it in Venezuela. And the thing to look for now is uh uh when Maduro testifies that the Democrats in the CIA rigged the 2020 election because that's what Jang said, we'll know if if he was CIA or not. And I remember cuz that's so far-fetched. But I remember hearing the stupid Trump administration way do you hear about the 2020 election? And I was like, "Oh, it's possible, isn't it?" And and imagine like a two years from now
45:28them prosecuting that >> perfectly prosecutable. I don't care. If he did that, it would be ostensibly to get off. Right.
45:36>> Right. Yeah. So, >> yeah. So, if they if they got Maduro to testify that they were >> whether it's true or not.
45:43>> Correct. Correct. It would be so he could get out of prison before he dies.
45:46Him and his wife.
45:48>> It's just funny like like Chavez and what do you always hear about Venezuela?
45:51They like Chavez and and then the people have complaints about Maduro. And it's the same it's like a here we get rugpulled non-stop, right? A bunch of people hope Trump was going to do some of the thing. Well, the no tax on tips.
46:03Good for him.
46:04>> Yeah, >> but nothing else. Everything else is rug bull.
46:06>> Well, he closed closed the border and no tax on tips. But >> I'm not counting the border because they could have just done that the whole time. It turns out, >> right? Turns out it's like flipping a switch. You don't need a wall. You could just flip a switch and you can stop immigration on this.
46:17>> A lot of emotional energy spent on that wall when there was never an issue about a wall. That's kind of bitter about it if I'm being honest as a cobbist.
46:24>> Um, just one more. So, how corrupt? So when I saw what happened in Venezuela, Anya, to me it was like, oh, okay. So they found the criminals just below Maduro that they could work with. Not that Maduro isn't also corrupt. Most leaders are corrupt. Uh but they found the ones just below him that they could bribe and were the kind of criminals that the criminals in the CIA and the United States government and our economic hitmen could work with. And so now that's really who's running the country. Is is am I wrong about that or how how do you see it? That's definitely a a working theory, but I I think that
46:59there are there are there there are questions here. You could frame it also as is this if Venezuela if Deli were able to keep Chioismo as they see it in power and have good relations with the United States, end sanctions, open up the economy, start bringing oil to the US again. Maybe there are people that would argue that that's better for Venezuela in the in the in the long term and that having this hostile relationship where someone's constantly uh trashing Washington, which was what was happening before. I mean, and and you know, a lot of people here would hear Maduro's criticisms of the United States and
47:37think like, "Oh, I relate to that."
47:39Like, I'm not I'm not not making a judgment on what on what was said. But at that time that was what you know animated the Chavista movement and that was what people looked it to it for. But now for it to last if it's going to last should it liberalize. I mean that that's one argument people could make. Um others might say yeah the state has completely sold out and collapsed and that that is what happened that they sold out Maduro and they coordinated it and they you know stood down while while the US military came in and to and took him out. Then there are people that would say well uh this happened the US
48:19military is stronger and mightier than we thought.
48:23They came in, they were gonna kill everybody, and so Deli and the rest have a gun to their head, and this is what they have to do. History will probably give us uh more answers than I can right now. But when something like uh this earthquake happens and you see a red line like the Israelis come in, I think that's when you pretty much have to question what's going on. Because like I said, if this happened in Iran, would the government there let the Israelis in? Like I don't really know. I It seems like you would have to protect yourself from those people.
48:57>> Correct. Anya Permpel, I appreciate the author of uh Corporate Coup, Venezuela and the End of US Empire. I appreciate your expertise. Thanks for making time, my friend, and accommodating our schedule. I always see you guys.
49:12>> Okay. Great to see you. Give your babies a kiss for us.
49:15Okay, we're going to take a break and when we come back, we're going to have uh Nicholas Holure on to talk about the latest study on sunscreen causing cancer. We'll be right back.
49:26It's it's Pride Month and uh I was just in Spokane, Washington and Tacoma and they were all full-blown priding and um what what I've been saying on stage is that uh it's it's kind of funny to me that there's a big faction of uh the country that sees gay people still as victims and I have to remind them you're victors there. You're not a victim.
49:55you're vict There there's nothing you're fighting for anymore. And so what this now they're just using the uh 2S LGBTQIA++ all they're just using that now to uh I see that as the establishment using that to keep people divided and because otherwise people could come together easily. Uh do you agree with that that gay people are the victors and they're not victims anymore?
50:24>> Of here's the thing here. This is my view of this which is like I told you before when when I first you know started becoming uh involved in say you know the fight for equality for gay people when when gay people had not won.
50:41I mean there were there was no equal rights to gay people. This is, you know, coming out of the 80s where some of the worst things happened like people who were married and who were living together, who were in love with each other, one of them got sick and they had no legal rights, the the spouse did, and so the parents who were anti-gay were able to keep them out of the hospital room while they were dying, out of the decision. Like really horrible, horrible stuff. Um, you know, you could easily get fired for being gay. Like no, no, no equality at all. Once that movement started succeeding, and it started
51:13succeeding because not because people with opposing views were censored, not because they were cancelled or demonized, but because they were persuaded, >> right?
51:23>> You know, they were persuaded that what you have in your mind of a gay person, this demonization that you've been fed, actually what gay people are is that uncle that you've always loved or your younger brother or that neighbor that you have always trusted your kids with.
51:39or your teacher that you know was so important in your formation. That's what ultimately persuaded people that gay people are, you know, people and deserve the same rights as everybody else. Once and and and as I said, gay marriage wasn't even anything that anyone even thought of. That was so unrealistic. And then ultimately that became kind of the northstar of gay and lesbian politics.
52:01And then that happened that happened even before Oberfell the Supreme Court decision in 2015 that that said it's unconstitutional deny gay people the right to marry. State after state after state was democratically enacting the legalization of samesex marriage and then suddenly in all 50 states gay couples and gay people has 100% full legal equality. What happened? The problem is is that you have all these activist groups that are drowning in huge amounts of money. These big establishment DNC adjacent groups like the Human Rights Campaign and GLAD and all these advocacy groups and they're filled with money. They have big
52:39buildings. the the the people who work there get big NGO salaries and these activist groups don't want to win because if they win it means okay let's let's close up like you said we won so that means it's time to close up these activist groups we don't need this constant you know victim victimhood narrative and this is true for every group for black groups for the ADL the ADL needs anti-feminism the NAACP needs racism epidemics now when these feminist groups need misogyny that's they feed on. And so even if they win, they can't admit it. So what will happen is they'll start inventing whole new issues to
53:17claim injustice. And that's exactly when these gay groups stopped caring about gay and lesbian rights and moved into trans issues.
53:31Hi everybody, welcome back. Uh we have special guest with us, Nicholas Holshire, epidemiologist, administrator at the McCulla Foundation. He's here to talk about the latest study on sunscreen. Hi Nicholas, how are you?
53:44>> I'm great. Thanks for having me.
53:46>> Now, we've covered this story before using our source was a Midwestern doctor Substack and he did a deep dive and found out that the people who were exposed the most to sun uh got the least amount of the deadly kind of sun cancer or skin cancer uh which is melanoma.
54:04That's the deadliest form. And it turns out that the parts of their skin that didn't get sun was where that kind of cancer showed up. And they they've known this for a long time. Uh they've done studies where they've uh they've looked at office workers and people who worked outside and it seems like the more sun you get, the more of a of of kind of a a resistance you get to uh the deadly kind of skin cancer. So I just want to play this. This is uh this was you talking to our good friend uh Matthew Gates.
54:39>> Have I been lied to as a Florida man about sunscreen protecting me from cancer?
54:44>> Yes, it appears we've all been lied to.
54:47Unfortunately, this massive study of over 470,000 people confirms it. Um it's very worrisome that when they compared sunscreen users to non- sunscreen users, the sunscreen users faced increased risks of all the major skin cancers melanoma, squamus cell carcinoma and basilc cell carcinoma. So all of these cancers were up but the most worrisome finding was that invasive melanoma was 300% higher uh higher risk in the sunscreen users. They accounted for skin color, time spent outdoors, and many other things, sex, age, and they still found these increased risks of the cancer. When you use sunscreen all the
55:31time, you're blocking your body's ability to synthesize vitamin D, which is critical for cancer defense. So, you do not want to shut that off. A JAMAMA study just came out and found all those active ingredients in the sunscreens get into your circulation. they get into your body above FDA regulatory limits.
55:50So, what I would say is avoid sunscreens. If you really have to use it, if you'll be out in the sun for, you know, 6 hours, midsummer day, you you still want to use something, I would use zincbased sunscreen, not oxyenzone, none of those hormone disrupting chemicals.
56:07>> Have I been >> so that this So, tell me about the latest study. Tell me about So because there was all there's been studies out there that we covered. Tell me about the most recent one.
56:18>> Well, that that would be the most recent one, but I think what's important to talk about is the one before that. And then so what led up to this latest one?
56:27So before that, the backstory is in 2018, a metaanalysis was published. A metaanalysis is literally a combination of every single study ever done on a topic. So they did a metaanalysis on the risk be the risk of skin cancer with sunscreen use compared to no sunscreen use. There was 30 studies. So all 30 of these studies since the 1980s were was in this meta analysis. When they combined all this 30 studies combined over the 40 years the odds ratio of getting skin cancer when using sunscreen was over one. So what that means is all all the evidence of the past 50 years shows that yeah you are there is
57:19technically a higher risk of getting skin cancer when using sunscreen. Now it was only 8% and technically it wasn't statistically significant. So now we get to the important part. Over those 40 years there was 370,000 people. Then we got to this next study in 2023 that had 470,000 people bigger, larger than the 30 studies combined previously. And so the latest study found sunscreen users had increased risks of every single type of skin cancer including invasive melanoma, squamous cell carcinoma and basilc cell carcinoma. But the invasive melanoma was 300% higher in the sunscreen users, higher than all the
58:06other cancers. And they and particularly what this study did, so not only was it the largest, but they accounted for all the major skin cancer risk factors as the confounding variable. So they were able to isolate the effect of the sunscreen use. So they accounted for time spent outdoors, sunburn history, skin color, age, gender, literally everything. And so that's the state of the epidemiological evidence that yeah, you use sunscreen, you're at an increased risk of skin cancer.
58:40>> So I saw when you posted this uh so there's a lot there was a lot of push back obviously. So people don't realize that doctors maybe they do now because of COVID are just as easily bought off and corrupted as a used car salesman.
58:55And in fact, you don't you don't be you don't become a doctor because you oppose what's in the medical books or the medical dogma. You get to become a doctor because you go along with it. And they weed out the the uh the the people who are rebels. Um but I I wanted to so this is what I'm just going to give an example of the kind of push back. So this guy uh asks Gemini so asked AI and he says no this is completely false meaning what everything you just said. This claim is a classic piece of online misinformation that heavily distorts how scientific data works. There's no legitimate scientific study showing that sunscreen
59:36inherently causes or increases your risk of skin cancer. Now, that's not true, is that?
59:42>> That's that's not true. Literally, again, all 30 studies combined of the past 40 years shows actually the risk is increased.
59:52I mean, so these individuals, I don't know, they just conflate they they basically make stuff up because they don't want to believe it's true, unfortunately. So what they'll say is, oh, it's just an association and it's the sunscreen paradox where sunscreen users just go out in the sun more, but that doesn't explain why the study that accounted for going out in the sun more still found the increased risks in cancers.
60:17>> Well, here's go. Here's exactly what you're talking about. They claim it's a paradox, right? So here's what he says.
60:23The sunscreen paradox why the numbers are skewed. When researchers look at large observational population data like the UK bio bank studies, they sometimes find that people who report using sun sunscreen also have higher rates of skin cancer. However, sunscreen isn't causing the cancer. Who uses sunscreen the most?
60:44People who have pale skin, burn easily, have a family history of skin cancer, or plan to spend hours out baking on the beach. these individuals already have a massively elevated baseline risk for skin cancer. The so uh what I what I said back to that was uh many so uh the research indicates that there's widespread sun screen use has not reduced skin cancer rates and in some cases increases it like that study in the UK of over 470,000 people. It's it's this is from the Midwestern doctor. It's worth pausing on how the 2023 studies authors handled their own result results, having found that frequent
61:27sunscreen use tracked with more skin cancer. They did not consider that their model might be wrong. Instead, they labeled it a paradox, proposed that sunscreen users must be getting more sun or not applying enough or buying sunscreen after their diagnosis and then concluded that the data demonstrates the importance of adequate and frequent sunscreen. So, they went exactly against the data that their own study produced.
61:54And he says this is the same reflex behind the French paradox, the puzzle of why the French have less heart disease despite eating more saturated fat, which was only ever a paradox if you assumed saturated fat caused heart disease to begin with. An assumption resting on a far shakier foundation than the public was led to believe, as covered in an article on the manufactured war on cholesterol that was used to push toxic and ineffective but lucrative statins upon everyone. So what he's basically saying is that they even though their own study revealed exactly what you're saying, they just said, "Oh, no. It's
62:31just wrong." Even though that's the that study you're quoting, it actually accounted for all these factors.
62:38Correct.
62:39>> Yeah. Correct. It literally accounted for all of those factors mentioned. And on so when when there's basically arguments over these population level estimates, that's when like you did, we have to look into the biological plausibility. And there's lots of biological plausibility behind sunscreens causing cancer. The first one is that a recent analysis of like hundreds of sunscreen products found that 27% of them are contaminated with benzene, a known human carcinogen. And so now that we have a JAMAMA study showing that sunscreen ingredients are rapidly absorbed into the bloodstream upon topical administration, that means
63:24the benzene is rapidly absorbed into the in deep into the skin. And so you literally are slathering carcinogens over yourself while at the same time blocking vitamin D production, which is literally critical for cancer defense.
63:40And so I you run into this stuff all the time when you post stuff that is hetrodox to uh the the line on sunscreen or anything medical, right? That saturated fat causes heart disease or sun uh sun sun is bad for you. And so you get these uh doctors who I don't know where they got their degrees, but this isn't one of them. Uh this guy Yanick Buchella, MD, he says there is no evidence sunscreen causes cancer. None.
64:09Of course, we just told you about all the studies that that say exactly that.
64:14Uh the link between unprotected sun exposure and skin cancer all types is one of the most wellestablished findings in oncology. Well, I would say it's one of the most wellestablished narratives in oncology, not actually a finding.
64:28Would you agree with that?
64:29>> Yeah, I agree with that exactly. You know, it's the it's the same kind of dogma with everything we've heard of.
64:35you know, they just say, "Oh, it's the most wellestablished."
64:39And it's not. It's just like you said, the most wellestablished narrative that's been perpetuated for many decades. And so those who have clung on to that for, you know, 30 years of their professional life, they don't want to let go of it and they will cling to the old narrative for as long as they can.
64:57But you cannot dispute uh slathering carcinogens on yourself as not possibly causing skin cancer. So they, you know, they don't even look at any of these possible scenarios.
65:10>> And it's not only the cancer-causing chemicals that are in the sunscreen.
65:16It's that is tell, correct me if I'm wrong on this, do some of the chemicals kind of uh transmute into cancer. So, they're not originally cancer-causing, but uh over time or when you put them on your skin and you add sun, it then kind of transmutes them into some kind of cancer-causing chemical. Or am I wrong about that?
65:35>> Well, that's possible, but I So, we'll start So, starting with benzene, that's not supposed to be in there. It's just usually gets there from some contamination during manufacturing, but again, it's in like one in four sunscreens. The other things the primary active ingredients in many sunscreens are oxyenzone and avoenzone. These are potent hormone disrupting chemicals that are highly toxic to human cells. And so you know that will just simply in of itself disrupting your hormones and throwing your body out of homeostasis um will promote cancer growth. And again those are literally the primary
66:16ingredients. avoenzone and oxyenzone in many of these sunscreens.
66:22>> And so it it messes with your normal biology and chemistry in your body, throws off your hormones, making you more likely to get cancer.
66:32>> Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
66:34>> And so I posted this after that doctor posted his study and I said, "Honestly, I feel bad for the people that go for your med." And this is right from live science. cancer-causing chemical found in 78 sunscreen products.
66:48That's that's not disputed, by the way.
66:51That's uh so uh the independent lab that made the finding is calling on the FDA to recall these sunscreen products. And then this is the kind of this is the kind of push back you get. This guy says, "For people are going to believe this, the chemical in question is benzene. over 70% of sunscreen tested in this study didn't have benzene.
67:13I said, "Cool. So, you're saying just 30% of the sun sunscreen causes cancer?
67:18Not sure that's the own you think it is."
67:21>> So, I mean, it's just that's just And so, let me just give you a little couple more facts. I say I'm citing myriad studies contained in Midwestern Dr.
67:29Substack where he cited common tac to toxic chemicals used in UV filters in many sunscreens that face scrutiny for potential carcinogens, toxicity, absorption into the bloodstream, and doctrine disruption, which is what you were just talking about, skin allergies, and environmental harm. Like, you can't even wear sunscreen in uh in the ocean when you go swimming in Hawaii because it kills the coral reef. If it kills the coral reef, imagine what it's doing to you after it's already diluted in the seawater. It'll still kill the coral reef. You're putting it right into your bloodstream.
68:03>> Um, and here's some of those chemicals.
68:06Oxyenzone, most frequently cited as concerning. It absorbs readily through the skin, acts as a potential indoctrin hormone disruptor, and has been linked in studies to reproductive issues, allergies, coral bleaching. FDA studies show bloodstream absorption. It's banned in places like Hawaii. Uh, under oxy, how do you say that?
68:27Ox.
68:28>> Oh boy.
68:29>> Doesn't matter. Strong evidence of indoctrin disruption. Also absorbed systemically and environmentally harmful to reefs. Uh, homo uh homoalate potential hormone disruption. So this is all the stuff that's in sunscreen.
68:41Here's some more. Avoenzone some evidence of indoctrin effects and absorption can deregulate and produce byproducts. And then octoryline absorbed systemically linked to allergies a potential degradation into benzopenone a suspected carcinogen. So it then degrades into a different type of chemical that is a suspected carcinogen and then octicelate absorbed through the weak with weaker evidence of other harms. So it it's it's always amazing to me. So, we all know, I don't know if you're aware of this, but uh when I did my deep dive into sunscreen, that in the 80s, uh dermatology was on the lowest
69:22rung of the specialist MD ladder. And so they actually this the the the dermatology association hooked up with uh uh Madison Avenue advertising and they advised them to conflate deadly skin cancer like melanoma with the not deadly skin cancer basilc cell carcinoma. That by the way the the survival rate of basilc cell carcinoma after 5 years 100%. Just to let you know. So they conflated those and they just call it under one umbrella sun skin cancer. So now people are afraid of the non deadly lethal skin cancer basil cell as much as they are afraid of melanoma because the dermatology association wanted people to conflate those so then
70:10they could get more money doing mo surgery which is how you get rid of basilc cell and in fact they would even do mo surgery on they would go into to retirement centers and nursing homes and do mo surgeries on people who are about to die. So that's about it's just a big money maker for the dermatology uh profession. Are you aware of any of that?
70:33>> Yeah, it sounds about right. It sounds very accurate. Um unfortunately and so yeah. So what so they're going to the nursing homes and cutting moles off of people on their deathbeds?
70:46>> Yes.
70:46>> That's uh that's quite shocking quite disappointing. and you know many so those the same individuals slathering sunscreen all over themselves um are probably in support of that.
70:59>> Okay, appreciate that. We'll have one more story I want to cover with you first. Let's throw it to Steph for some super chat.
71:06>> All right, ladies and gentlemen, what a show we've had today. Um sunscreen. I know, Jimmy. When we were there, when we were on a on vacation, this guy was standing by us and he was just spraying his sunscreen all over all over him. And it's like, well, there was a cloud of it. You told they told you not to use a sunscreen. And then you could just taste it.
71:26>> There was a there was there was a sign by the pool >> that said you are not allowed to use aerosol sunscreens. And that for that very reason because it creates a cloud and then it gets in your iced tea or your water and it gets in you breathe it in. I could taste, like you said, I could taste it and they're [gasps] and they're spraying it all over everybody.
71:45And finally, I had to go get the guy working at the poker. Hey, could you tell them to stop it? And they did. But anyway, yeah, go ahead.
71:52>> It was a nightmare.
71:53>> Okay.
71:54>> Okay. Here we go. Please, please look into harp. R a good vibes. Shalom everyone. Please, let's ban metipe direct oral suctioning and save the poor infant.
72:09Uh fahimal Maui children are still missing.
72:14>> Oh, of course.
72:16>> Jimmy V1, load every Zionist in the world on boats and send them to Antarctica, killing killing uh blank every effing one of them.
72:27Jimmy, back to Jim Jam.
72:29>> So, I want to remind people how we got the mRNA vaccine. it was never tested successfully and the vaccine they never had a successful corona virus vaccine um and but they really really wanted to push this mRNA vaccine and this is from uh from the Milin Institute with Dr.
72:47Fouchy and he's telling you how they're going to have to scare the hell out of people and make them more afraid of a corona virus than they should be so then they can institute uh the the roll out of mRNA shots. I don't even call them vaccines, but let's listen. It's very short.
73:06>> Why don't we blow this system up? I mean, obviously, we can't just turn off the spigot on the system we have and then say, "Hey, everyone in the world should get this new vaccine we haven't given to anyone yet." But there must be some way that we grow vaccines mostly in eggs the way we did in 1947.
73:25>> You know why? Because we've been proven that that that works and it's less toxic than an MR. So, he's saying, "Why can't we just force this?" You heard him. Why do we just force this on everybody? Why do how do we got to get off the old vaccines that everybody's used to taking in their flu shot? We got to get something new on them. And here's what Fouchi says.
73:45>> In order to make the transition from getting out of the tried andrue egg growing, which we know gives us results that can be, you know, beneficial. I mean, we've done well with that to something that has to be much better. uh you have to prove that this works and then you've got to go through all of the clinical trials, phase ones, phase twos, phase three and then show that this particular product is going to be good over a period of years. Of course, they didn't do that with the mRNA vaccine. It was rushed through as called warp speed. Is there a better way to bring a medicine to market than at
74:25warp speed? And so, of course, they didn't do any of that like he said. What did they do instead?
74:30>> That alone, if it works perfectly, is going to take a decade. There might >> Okay, so it didn't they did it in three months. So it did they didn't take a decade to study the vaccine. They just rushed it through and here we go.
74:44>> Be a need or even an urgent call for uh an entity >> of excitement out there that's completely disruptive that's not beholden to bureaucratic strings and and and processes. So, >> you mean like a pandemic that's manufactured by this guy, inventing a virus at the University of North Carolina, shipping it to Wuhan lab and then having it it get out u accidentally get out and create a pandemic so we can have this new thing that is not uh subject to bureaucratic strings. Here's what he says about that. We really do have a problem of how the world perceives influenza and it's going to be very difficult to change that unless you
75:29do it from within and say I don't care what your perception is. We're going to address the problem in a disruptive way and in an iterative way which is exactly what they did with co I don't care if you're not afraid of corona virus we're going to make you afraid of it and we're going to do it in a disruptive way. Was there ever a bigger disruption in humanity than the lockdowns from COVID?
75:51I don't think so. And so there he is telling you their plan. And that's just like a year before the the the pandemic.
75:58>> You do need both.
75:59>> But it is not too crazy to think that an outbreak of an a novel avian virus could occur in in China somewhere. We could get the RNA sequence from that, beam it to a number of regional centers, if not local, if not even in your home at some point, and print those vaccines on a patch and self-administer.
76:22>> So, if that doesn't tell you exactly that they had this in mind and planned, they were talking about it in front of cameras with microphones. They were admitting their heinous evil plan. They were admitting it. That's what that is.
76:36And so, uh, now we have doctors, the leading oncologists in the world. Here's one of them, Dr. uh, Professor Angus, uh, I can't pronounce his last name. Uh, how do you say his last name, Nick?
76:49>> Dal Gleas.
76:50>> Dal Gleas. So, he's going to let you know that from his observational studies, he is drawing a connection between the mRNA vaccines and cancer.
77:01Now, let's watch. interesting that people who'd been stable with cancer melanoma for years started relapsing at the beginning of 22 and uh I asked for any reason why this might occurred [sighs] and I noted they'd all been given boosters by their GPS which I if they'd asked me I wouldn't have done that and so we had to look around what's the reason why would a booster allow a cancer to come back but it turned out it's very simple that boosters suppress the TE-C cell response the first two will increase it a bit but a booster suppresses it and that's exactly what we found but then a group from Madrid
77:41published a wonderful paper saying T- cell exhaustion after third COVID vaccine in cancer patients with an incredible data show it showed it very very clearly and so therefore any cancer suppressed and controlled by an immune system you suspect might pop up after the booster surgeons noted their colarctal patients were not were very difficult to treat. They were presenting late and they were presenting young and they found that these patients had all had the booster too and they called you know a red flag and I called a red flag that just the uh the suspicion that the the vaccine might be involved in the
78:22cancer.
78:23>> Are there any studies that have linked the mRNA to cancer? Is there any sort of medical um um process that you can allure to that back that up?
78:32>> The strongest are the epidemiological studies and uh the strongest was from Japan a paper by Gibbo and and his colleagues which has had the raw data and they noticed that the number of new cancer cases went up with each booster vaccine.
78:52So again uh this goes against the orthodoxy and of course we now know that not only medical boards but the the medical journals are completely corrupted by big pharma money and universities as well because they all relied on Dr. Fouchy to fund their research and give them uh billions of dollars. And so now when a guy like this comes out and says this, they all attack him as he's some kind of a quack. But uh just what what's your reaction to when you hear this, Nick?
79:24>> Yeah, everything he says is 100% accurate. In fact, now over 70% of the global population was injected with a carcinogenic biological agent. And that biological agent is the mRNA gene transfer injections. We actually now have over a hundred studies showing that the mRNA shots induce cancer or promote cancer by 17 distinct mechanisms. He mentioned TE-C cell exhaustion was one of them. You also have turning off of tumor suppressor genes P-53 and BA hyperinflammation, overall immune disysregulation, um, as well as just literally decimating multiple organ systems at the same time because it goes everywhere in the body.
80:15And you know, it's just a massive list.
80:17It's an absolutely massive list of mechanisms, but you know, the epidemiological data is undeniable.
80:25We have four major major data sets and there's two in the United States. The first is the CDC wonder mortality data.
80:35There's been 138,000 excess cancer deaths in the United States since the mRNA shots rolled out. Again, 138,000 more cancer deaths than normal. And then we had the SEIR data set come out of the National Cancer Institute a few months ago. They found that multiple major cancers increased in young Americans right after the shots rolled out including stomach cancer, colon cancer, brain tumors. They were up about 19%.
81:08Um so this should not be occurring. And then we had lastly Italian and South Korean studies totaling 8.7 million people combined comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated and the vaccinated individuals suffered increased risks of seven major cancers colon prostate breast thyroid um all these cancers are up in the vaccinated. So it's undeniable both mechanistically and at the population level. So there's a chemical called SV40.
81:44Now tell me about that and why has this been found inside the COVID vaccine?
81:50>> Yeah, SV40 is a portion of the DNA plasmid at the manufacturing process for the Fiser mRNA injections. Basically, it's there to churn it's there in the DNA plasmid at the factory to churn out the mRNA to help churn it out.
82:09The DNA plasmids are still in the vials.
82:12They don't clean them out. They say they do, but they don't. Over 10 studies have found these DNA plasmids, including SV40 segment of the plasmids in the vials.
82:21And so when you inject it into people's arms, it's encased in the lipid nanop particles. And we know SV40 is a cancerpromoting genetic material. And so that's going to get into all of your bodily systems and promote cancer and actually it possibly inserting itself into genomes, portions of this DNA plasmid. And we demonstrated that in a peer-reviewed study. We found a segment of this so-called vaccine genetic material fused in chromosome 19 in a stage 4 turbo bladder cancer patient. And so, you know, it's it's very bad. It's very very bad. And that's another mechanism of promoting cancer is insertional mutagenesis or genomic
83:07integration of nonhuman synthetic vaccine DNA um causing uncontrolled cell growth. And so here's the South Korean study you were talking about one-year risk of cancers associated with CO 19 vaccination. A large population-based cohort study in South Korea. And I'll just read you a couple of lines from this. uh the uh oxinogenic potential of SARS Kovv2 has been hypothetically proposed but real world data on the CO 19 infection and vaccination are insufficient. Therefore, this large-scale population-based retrospective study in Soul, South Korea aimed to estimate the cumulative incidences of subsequent risks of
83:49overall cancers one year after CO 19 vaccination. Data from over 8 million individuals between 21 and 23 were obtained from the Korean National Health in insurance database. The participants were categorized into two groups based on their CO 19 vaccination status. The risk for overall cancers were assessed using multivariable COX proportional hazard models and datas were expressed as hazard ratios with a 95% confidence uh uh interval.
84:22the thyroid cancer, gastric cancer, colarctal cancer, lung cancer, breast cancer, and prostate cancer significantly increased at a one year postvaccination.
84:39So that's a gigantic study, 8 million people. And so why do you why do you think that today this is still happening that they're still giving out free vac co mRNA COVID vaccines at CVS? What is going I mean is is our government just that eagle evil or are they just that corrupt or both?
85:04>> It's both. It's both. And honestly I don't have a good answer as to why they're doing this. it it's now at this point with all this evidence it does qualify as a form of homicide. It may be mass negligent. Um we don't know yet.
85:19You know that has to be ru um kind of rolled out. You know what what sort of crime is being committed here now because we know it's causing these cancers. We know it's actually caused mass deaths um extreme blood clotting including white fibrous clots. A study came out on that two days ago. uh 25% of corpses uh have these long anomalous clots in them now. 75% of inbalmers are finding them. Um and yeah, so it's criminal. We now we know the FDA literally covered up 25 safety signals in early 2021. Ron Johnson's team found that out with internal communications of between FDA officials. They literally
86:03buried a sudden cardiac death signal. It was killing people, children, teenagers, everybody. And they told the scientists that found those signals to cease and desist, right? So that is a crime to hide death signals from a product you're telling millions of people to get.
86:23>> And so people have been attacking that professor. And so I asked Grock, please answer my question succinctly. that that professor who's the the oncologist, the worldrenowned oncologist who's correlating and connecting the the shots with cancer. And I said, "Please answer my question as succinctly as possible without adding commentary or qualifiers.
86:46The people attacking the professor, worldrenowned oncologist, were wrong about most things to do with CO in retrospect, like lockdown, school closures, vaccine stopping transmission and contraction, and social distancing."
86:59Correct. Grock says yes.
87:02So there you go. That and when you So when you see someone like that on social media and then you see him being attacked, remember the people attacking him were wrong about everything to do with co. You'll see you'll see post you'll see posts like this. Uh he's a worldrenown grifting quack. [laughter] That's what people say. They uh and so uh I asked I asked Rock. I says, "Is is this worldrenowned an encologist uh really worldrenowned? Is he a leader in the field who was wellresected before he spoke out on COVID?" Yes, he is a legitimate wellrespected oncologist with a strong precoid reputation in his
87:42field. He's not fringe or unknown. And here's his credentials. He's got great unbelievable credentials. He's held senior roles in oncology and immunology for decades. and he's discovered of CD4 as a major receptor for HIV. He pioneered work on cancer imunotherapy and vaccine and he's contributed to the development of something I can't promote promote uh pronounce which led to uh him receiving the Joshua Letterberg Prize in 2011. Um I could go on and on. He's got a great reputation. And I said, "Well, is he a quack?" They go, "No, he's not a quack. He's credential and career. He's the founding chair of oncology at St.
88:23George's University of London since 1991. He's a fellow of respected bodies, the Academy of Medical Sciences, Royal Colleges, extensive publication record, hundreds of papers. He's published strong citations in immunology and oncology, and contributions to HIV research and cancer immunotherapy. his pre-COVID standing respected in his niche for tumor immunology, cancer, vaccines, HIV colleagues view colleagues viewed him as a productive clinic clinician scientist. So of course after he came out and went against the orthodoxy and told the truth about his findings with cancer and the jabs, now they're calling him a quack. That that's
89:06we've seen this over and over. Not only Dr. Makulla, leader in his field. Uh but uh anybody the guy who's what's his name who invented the mRNA vaccine technology? We've had him on the show.
89:18Uh Dr. Robert Malone, right? Again, the guy who has vaccine patents, the guy who invented the mRNA vaccine platform that was based that that they use the co shot based on they're not calling him a quack. So anybody who goes against big farmer's narrative, they're going to call a quack. I just wanted to show people that that one of the most leading oncologists in the world, they'll also try to dismiss. And what do you think it's going to take, Nick? What do you think it's going to take for regular people to realize that they were lied to about COVID on a scale their brains cannot comprehend?
89:55>> It's going to take an injury or death in their family from one of these products. I think in the end, particularly for those who have received six, seven, eight, nine mRNA booster shots, well, something bad may not have happened to them or somebody they know. Um, the moment something does, that's when most people wake up.
90:18And that's what I've seen now. Um, but it's very sad for people who have taken six booster shots. autopsy study recently came out and found basically their hearts look like Swiss cheese under the microscope, not with holes, but with multiple micro scars. And so these shots literally cause little microscopic scars throughout the heart that lead to sudden death.
90:45Do you think we'll ever have a a a person who's you know what like when Walter Kankite turned on the Vietnam War that's when they said it was the end of the Do you think that there'll be someone who's respected in society that comes out and says something about this uh that people will finally wake up?
91:04It's I think it's going to have to come from the propaganda mainstream media outlets that these individuals religiously watch. It's going to have to come from CNN and all these other outlets unfortunately. [snorts] And so, but they're captured by big pharma by they're captured by Fizer and so you know it's going to be very difficult to get that to happen. Uh but it needs to happen for the sake of public safety. You know, we had an ongoing long-term mass casualty event, right? We have to put an end to it somehow.
91:42>> Nicholas Holshire uh at the Mcculla Foundation, I appreciate you uh taking time to help explain all this to everybody. Uh everybody should follow you on uh X on Twitter, Nick Holshire.
91:55And uh thanks again for taking time for us, pal.
91:59>> Thank you.
92:00>> Okay. Uh let's take a break and we'll be right back. No, no, no.
92:03>> Want to go to Rumble?
92:05>> Oh, let's go to Rumble. We'll see you over at Rumble.
92:08>> Okay.
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