0:01running 24-hour ops 365 and uh street value of my dogs were probably close to really about 850 to n uh $850 to a million dollars uh for 45 cans. Yeah.
0:13>> Uh when they're trained properly, um they're very expensive, you know.
0:16>> Now, do you have clients that you're constantly training dogs for and sending them back to?
0:21>> No, I don't do that. I just All the dogs I have, I train for my own my own uh our own business.
0:26>> Oh, just for you guys?
0:27>> Yeah. Whoa.
0:28>> Just for us? Yeah.
0:29>> Now, how many I don't even [snorts] know if you want to say this, but like how many guys do you have working for you?
0:35>> I had 65 at one point. I had to let them go after CO, unfortunately. You know, CO again, don't get me >> CO was bad for war.
0:43>> No, no. These are This is Bali, Indonesia security.
0:46>> I know.
0:47>> Yeah.
0:48>> But like you guys are being sent to war zones and [ __ ] sometimes. Like that's that didn't stop because of CO. No.
0:53>> Right. Exactly. Right. But the whole world shut down because of co and all the properties that were had our canines were like hey we got to shut down so take your dogs off the property >> like and then now I can't pay my handlers right it's like >> I understand and I got to let them go I understand >> and then the canines I actually think some of my >> I was misappropriating something else you said I think some of my canines actually died from CO they had some really weird symptoms and by the way CO's been around for at least 20,000 years I've been inoculating >> 20,000 years >> I've actually been inoculating my dogs
1:21for CO since 19 um m 85 >> for COVID 19 or CO >> for CO 19 is just a variant of it, right?
1:30>> Yes, that's right.
1:30>> But CO's been around for a long time.
1:32>> Yes.
1:32>> And uh and so I think some of my dogs actually got CO because >> in Indonesia I don't believe the vaccines have COVID uh antibi u vaccine.
1:42There's what's called a sevenway and a eight-way. It's a combination of vaccines, right? But I don't believe in Indonesia we had the vaccine for COVID in the uh in the seven or eight ways that we were using. So, I had some really weird symptoms. Some my canines.
1:54I actually lost um I probably lost 30 dogs for >> 30.
1:58>> Yeah. At least for either either disease and or just sedentary. These dogs aren't working no more. They're being housed because we can't travel. We can't move.
2:07We can't do anything. I mean, literally, there was a point where you couldn't drive down the road without somebody, a police officer or soldier stopping you.
2:15Go, where's your pass at? Like Nazi Germany stuff. Like, you know, what are you doing out here? Where's your pass at? You know, I'm going to grocery store, sir.
2:21>> Yeah. Crazy, man.
2:23>> Yeah. It's It's amazing. And like even here, it's amazing how fast that happened.
2:28>> Yeah.
2:28>> You know, like one day [ __ ] was normal.
2:30The next day people were like, "Oh, yeah. We're just locked inside. No problem." Like, "Don't go to the grocery store. You might die."
2:35>> Yeah.
2:36>> It's It was like snapping a finger.
2:39>> You know, you know, in Indonesia, I I go back to Indonesia because this is how I kind of relate to it. In Indonesia, about 45% of the population lives off of day wages. whatever they can sell that day in terms of food or parking a car is what they're eating on, right? They're, you know, a couple cents here, park a car, sell a muffin, whatever, right?
2:56That's what they're going to feed their family on. Well, it got to a point where they weren't allowed to be out selling food. They weren't allowed to do anything. They had to hunker down. It's like, how are they going to make money?
3:05And people were literally, man, I've seen videos of entire families hanging themselves from the rafters because they would rather hang than starve to death because they weren't allowed to work.
3:13Think about that for a minute. for a virus with a 99% survival rate. I did the math on it. Um, >> you did? Yeah, I've done the math and it's I take the CDC statistics on all that and you do you calculate that with the population, it's like damn, >> you know, and now now it's all coming out like Yeah. Okay.
3:31>> Yeah. It's one it was one of those things where I mean we knew I was around here when it was happening. But, you know, the strike zone that hit hard in America was New York and North Jersey and stuff. And >> none of us were, none of the average people like me or probably even you were like viologists back then understood how viruses work, but viruses start. They kill a lot of people and as they're killing a lot of people, they're like, "Oh [ __ ] we don't want to kill the host." So, it it slows down. It has a curve over time. And I think that here, you know, they just dragged it on for so [ __ ] long, you know, to such an
4:07archaic level that, you know, putting that rabbit back in the hat is tough. I mean, I can see it at the beginning, but >> yeah, >> it was insane how far the measures.
4:15>> I don't know if Joe told you um on the show, but Joe and four other guys, >> Ted Eye.
4:20>> Yeah, Joe Tedy. They they actually scheduled um an appointment to go down and get tested for COVID, right? Get tested for COVID. Then they didn't. They canceled. A week later, they all got letters saying they were positive for COVID. Think about that for a minute.
4:35Think about that for a minute. Right.
4:36How's that?
4:37>> Why was he testing? Why was he testing for CO?
4:40>> Exactly. He wanted to see if he had CO.
4:41And so he >> Oh, just randomly he Oh, >> right. And so he scheduled appointments, canceled it for whatever reason or another, and then they got letters saying, "Hey, by the way, you're positive for CO." [laughter] >> So that's nuts.
4:52>> Yeah. That's the kind of crap that's going on, you know. Um, a lot of people made a lot of money and a lot of people were their life. Mine was my my business was wrecked badly because of this, you know. And >> yeah, I was think when when we were I'm sorry. When we were talking 5 minutes ago, I was thinking off the canine. I was thinking about the other stuff, not the canines. This is this is wild.
5:12>> Yeah. Um and we've, you know, [clears throat] we've never really recovered. Although we're recovering, we're actually making more money now than we did pre-COVID um with less clients, which is kind of weird how that worked out. But uh uh we definitely it definitely took a beating.
5:26And the worst part was I had, you know, of the 65 handlers I had, I had to let 55 go. I just couldn't support them no more. I just, you know, we lost, man. We lost our house, you know. Um, and I remember, you know, one, I felt bad because my guys, my employees are like family, you know, we treat, we treat treat them very fairly and very well, you know, and they are part of family. you know, we know their families and you know, and and I the the approach that I take to, you know, running a business is, you know, treat my employees with respect. In fact, the first thing I told my wife, I said, you know what, first two things,
6:00these are imperviousities. I said, every man gets his check, his full paycheck every time, on time, no excuses ever, right? He gets paid because there's a tendency not to do that over there, right? And so two, if a guy makes a mistake, we don't fire him the first time. We counsel him. if he makes a second mistake, a we, you know what, we'll penalize you a little bit of money. Don't do that again. And he makes a third time, then we cut his head off.
6:21I said, you know, but we we try to be fair about it. Those are my two rules.
6:24And and they appreciated that. And I knew their families and and I knew they were depending on this paycheck to feed their families. And by the way, in Indonesia, the average family makes about $260 a month. Think about that for a minute. $260.
6:36>> How far does that go there, though? It goes pretty far because they live a very uh minimalist life, you know, small, >> but also shit's like very inexpensive there. No, >> it's it's inexpensive, but he's been there and he knows you still, you know, >> he's been there. He's poor.
6:49>> Yeah, they're Yeah, [laughter] but they're not eating steaks. I I can tell you that. You know, they're not eating a lot of meat. They're eating a lot of rice, a lot of vegetables, a lot of fruit, and a lot of water, right? And uh >> that's good.
6:58>> And uh Yeah, it's it's actually good, but they don't, you know, they don't get the >> the privileges we do, like travel and go do this, you know, there's they don't have a lot of expendable money, you know.
7:08And uh so you know and that was important to me too to make sure they're paid well you know for their standards anyways and try to keep them handy. But when that happened I actually had one guy um he came back to us and he told us that his daughter had died. A little like 2-year-old daughter and I what happened? Oh yeah she was really sick you know and we didn't have the money for the bills and I'm like >> I'm like dude you should have called me.
7:30I didn't give you the money. I didn't take I'd have paid for it you know and I wouldn't char I' have given it to you got you know family but you know that's how they are man. I was like, you know, kids were dying, you know, and and guys didn't have the money to take care of their children, their families anymore, you know, and I I was so angry, man.
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8:12that subscribe button if you haven't already. I really appreciate that. Also, the like button is a big help. And you can join my newsletter via the link in the description below. Um, you know, it's like, you know what? What a what a scam, man. It be and people, you know, the other thing, too, by going back to the canines, you know, canines can pick up viruses. Canines can actually sense and detect virus. They can detect cancer. They detect uh um seizures before they come on. It's amazing what a canine can detect. And I had trained dogs and I was working with a group that we've trained dogs to pick up uh co
8:44viruses. Could actually sense if a person had a virus before they showed symptoms.
8:48>> Nobody wanted to talk about that. Nobody wanted to do that. You know why? They were making all the money off the PCR test and send them to the hospital.
8:54Nobody wanted to talk about let's mitigate this. We put canines at the airports when you come through like an explosive detector dog, you know, and and we segue people that might be sick because it was a racket. People made a lot of money over there.
9:06>> Yeah. CO made some people, man. The business of made them very rich and it killed a lot of businesses, you know, it killed a lot of families, killed a lot of people, you know, inadvertently. So, um, yeah, it's it's man, it's just one of those things that, uh, just aggravating as hell. You know, the lies are being perpetrated, um, at our at our expense, you know, the fear-mongering.
9:28Um, I was at the G20 summit last year, which happened to be in Bali, right? So, I got contract to come and do the security for it >> for like an individual leader or >> all the G20 all the Yeah, G20. The whole G20, the whole thing. Wow.
9:42>> The whole G7 right there where I live, right? So I got contract to come in and provide canines for scarity. So I also got to listen to some of the [ __ ] [laughter] that that they were they were spewing on the on the podium, right?
9:54>> And here >> I just needed I need an image of you in the corner with the dog like that's some [ __ ] >> Oh, I want to say [laughter] it so bad.
10:00But man, >> shut the [ __ ] up, bud.
10:02>> These people were eating this [ __ ] up.
10:04I'm like, are you kidding me? Here's five things. Here's the five takeaways from the G20 that I got. Five things.
10:10>> One, yeah, we have a water shortage. I go, that's [ __ ] I just swam to this [ __ ] convention this morning cuz rain so hard in Bali. All right. There's water all around the planet. We got sailing desalination plants where there's no water shortage. Okay. But they say, "Oh, there's a water shortage.
10:23There's a food shortage." I go, "Bullshit. There's no food shortage either." There's no food shortage.
10:29Three, there's an energy shortage. Yeah, guess what? That's a That's a self-inflicted gunshot wound. There's We have plenty of energy if we just, you know, turn on the spots, you know. Um, four, there's going to be another pandemic, but this one's going to be bad. And number five was, "Oh, yeah, the Russians are bad. They're going to kill us all." Like, what a bunch of [ __ ] >> When was this summit?
10:48>> This was last year. Last November.
10:50>> Last November.
10:51>> Year ago. A year ago. Um, just scary [ __ ] you know, when you when you hear people with power and influence up there and they're literally brainwashed and everybody. Look at, you know, look at the World Economic Forum, that freaking [ __ ] Joe. you know, >> that guy's funny, >> you know, but but these people these people are manipulators, man. And uh and everybody else are not paying attention, you know, they're I hate when people say, "Well, you know, I don't watch the news anymore." It's like, you should watch the news because they don't want you to watch the news because they don't want you to watch what they're doing.
11:20>> Well, the news but the news is also all slanted. None of it's real.
11:25>> Right. And that's why you should watch it because you need to watch the [ __ ] show and then do your own critical thinking.
11:30>> Yeah. But like people That's [snorts] the problem though. People will watch something like that passively when they do or they'll see the clips on social media. And you got to remember everyone, you know, they got their family, they got their job, they got their life.
11:43Yeah. We want to see people that make decisions for themselves and don't just listen to what's said. But if they're already listening passively, I'm thinking of like smart people out there, too, who it's just kind of passive. I see it happen all the time where people and I'll I'm guilty of it sometimes, too, cuz I'll hear someone be like, "Oh, yeah, that thing." You know what I mean?
12:02Like there's so much going on. It's like not everyone is the president. Not everyone's the secretary of state. You know, they're all just normal people. I hear you. But I think that's kind of built into the system that some of the people the powers that be take advantage of that because they know people have priorities that the news isn't paying their bills. That's right. You know, >> that's right. It's the human condition, man.
12:24There's the leaders and then there's those that follow. Unfortunately, most people are followers, you know, and they trust everybody else. you know, to to give them information and expect it to be truthful when it's not, you know, sadly. Um, it's crazy times we're living in. Very crazy times.
12:41>> Yeah, for sure. But you, so you we had said this a little bit ago, but you >> retired from the military in ' 01, 6 weeks before 9/11. When you did that, like the second you retired, was your plan to go into contracting >> or Okay. No. So then plane hits the buildings, >> right?
13:02>> Is did that change for you?
13:04>> Well, what happened was um I wanted to start So before I got out the military, I'm like, okay, I'm going to retire. What am I going to do when I get out? Okay, what am I good at?
13:16Pulling triggers and there's not a lot of need for that in the civilian world.
13:20And I'm thinking, well, what am I good at? What could I do? And I thought, ah, you know what? I could start a security company. Even though security wasn't making a lot of money back then either.
13:27you know, an average security manager at a big bank was making maybe $80,000 a year, and that was top money, you know, but I said, "Well, you know, something's better than nothing. I want to start my own business. I want to be self-employed." Um, so I started a security company and had a partner. We started campaigning in the uh uh in the nuclear security sector, privacy sector.
13:46Um, and then anyways, made ourselves known, nothing was happening. And then 9/11 happened and bam, the doors open wide open for us. And before you know it, we're making shitloads of money in the nuclear security sector doing basically hardening all the nuclear power plants in the United States. Whoa.
14:03>> Everything. I mean, all aspects of security, man. We Yeah, we did really well. In fact, a lot of the uh uh security apparatus uh constructs that you see in that sector now um was derived from my company. Um so much so that in 2004, G4S came along and say, hey, we want to buy your company, you know. Um, and I was like happy to do that because I didn't think this was going to live very long, right? But man, I could have never been more wrong. Here we are, right? Security is still a big deal and the threat's still evolving, you know? But I I was smart enough to start a second company right away. Sold
14:36it later on, 2011. So my goal was not to get into contracting. My job, my goal was just to run a business and do security consulting. And then I got recruited by, you know, the the government at the same time.
14:48>> Now, is this ground branch?
14:50>> It's whatever you want to call it. And uh and so anyways, I ended up uh doing that almost nine and a half years. And uh I wasn't supposed to I was supposed to do it for about a year. That was my plan. Check check the block. Before you know it, nine and a half years went by and I'm like, damn. You know, and then my I mentioned that ambush earlier, the last ambush, the final ambush, I decided it's time to get out and do something different. So that's what brought me back.
15:14>> Which ambush was that?
15:15>> Number five. It was uh I got ambushed one night. Basically, we got boxed in on this It was one road down the Kunor Kunar River. On both sides, Kunar.
15:27>> Yeah. Where?
15:28>> Afghanistan.
15:28>> Okay.
15:29>> So, on both sides.
15:30>> You didn't You didn't talk about this on camera.
15:31>> I thought I did.
15:32>> No, >> I started to. Maybe I got I went on a tangent.
15:35>> All right. All right.
15:35>> I thought I was too.
15:36>> Tell [laughter] tell the story.
15:37>> I need more coffee. Um, >> you want some more?
15:39>> No, I'm good.
15:40>> Okay.
15:40>> Actually, I'm getting >> Say I think you're about to [ __ ] blow through that window if I give you more coffee.
15:44>> I know. [laughter] I feel like a gallon of it already. I had to, man. I haven't had no sleep since Sunday. been traveling 32 hours on one flight from man from Indonesia to Manila to anyway.
15:55>> God damn drove five hours last night.
15:58So, >> and thank you for doing that by the way.
16:00There's a whole slip up with with the uh with the airport and everything. I appreciate you.
16:05>> But that ambush uh the one I'm referring to um what happened was we were on a road, a river road, small dirt road. We drove into an area that's about uh 7 kilometers that the Taliban owned. It was their territory.
16:19my group that my that we were traveling with right small small element >> and um there were mountains on both sides uh we were we basically on the road running along the river there was you can't make a left or right turn you got to go north or south down this road and we had to stop and in very short order we heard the Taliban on the radio they had to set up ambushes on both of ends of ourh small convoy and they were getting ready to hit us and uh and then I realized oh [ __ ] the only way we're getting out this is we got to run the gauntlet now. And we know they're going to hit us. We know they're going to blow us, set up IEDs.
16:53We knew where they were. Um, and so we made the decision, we're going to turn around, run north again, run the ambush, hopefully fight through it, and then get back to our to our base camp. And I remember when we turned around that night, um, there was a total of we had like 23 vehicles, um, and we're spread out about 50 mters each. So, think about that for a minute. you know, we're over a kilometer long convoy, you know, and on that road you can only travel maybe 5 miles an hour max speed. It was just a really bad dirt road. So, we turned around and uh we had already made contact once or we already had
17:28casualties. Guys got shot up. So, we're already dealing with that. Got the vehicles turned around and we had called in a H6 attack uh Apache attack helicopter.
17:39He actually had gone back and he had reloaded, refueled, got more ammunition, came back, and we decided, okay, we're going to let him run out in front of us, strafe the road. Um, and then once he strafes the road, we're going to start driving. As we're listening to the Taliban on the radio, because we had what's called an icon radio. That's what the Taliban use. So, it's pretty much an open channel. And we had a couple and our interpreters were listening to it and they were telling us what the guys were doing. And they had actually just they had changed their tactics over the years. They used to hit us um from a
18:07distance, long-range ambushes, and now what they were doing is getting right up on the road, right? And then actually get in between the vehicles. So now we're in a crossfire. And they also knew that, you know, the helicopters, close air support, can't engage them, otherwise they would engage our own our vehicles, right? So they got a little smarter as time went on. And so we knew they were near the edge of the road. Um and we knew what they're going to do. In fact, we heard him say, "Hey, we're going to hit this vehicle, this vehicle, and they got this weapon systems, this weapon system. We're going to grab that,
18:36grab that, grab this." By the way, this goes all the way back to the Mujadin and the Russians. They used [clears throat] to do that as well.
18:41>> Um, they would usually hit the last vehicle in a Russian convoy and just clean it out, you know, because they knew the Russians were going to turn around and come back and help these guys. They're going to keep on booking.
18:50>> Um, so we knew what they're going to do and we're sitting there and the helicopters came in, started straight from the road, and then, uh, the first vehicle left. I remember watching through my night vision goggles all the guns open up and the instructions were as I gave them. I said, "Shoot at everything and anything a Taliban could hide behind. Open every gun system on your truck and let them shoot." Right?
19:10We had guns placed in every direction.
19:11So the first vehicle takes off at a blazing like 5 miles an hour shooting and then the second one and then the third one. It's like March of the Penguins, you know, but and I'm I'm like the 15th truck back and I got all the antennas on mine that says command vehicle, blow this one up, right? And I'm and I'm actually driving my command vehicle and I got, you know, um, my Afghan interpreters with me and I'm telling the same thing. I go, "Dude, as soon as I start driving, I said, "Shoot anything where a bad guy can hide behind it." You know, I said, "Don't relent until we get out of this thing." So, as
19:42I'm sitting there, I'm watching the vehicles go one by one, the firefight starts. I got time to watch the show and think about it before it's time for me to start driving my vehicle, right?
19:50>> And all of a sudden, I thought, you know what?
19:53I've never I've been in a lot of ambushes, but I've never actually had to deliberately drive into an ambush to get out of it. But I have no choice this time. And then I started thinking, man, what if I don't make it out of this one?
20:02You know, I am driving the one with the antennas. And so I thought about my family and I took a moment. I said, okay, I want to visualize every one of my children's face, everybody's face, my wife, my kids, one by one. See their face for the last time. Maybe their face, their face, their face, their face, their face. And then what I want to do is get that all out of my mind so I'm no longer distracted by that. Right. And knowing that would be maybe the last time I ever think about them or see them, you know?
20:28Now I need to do is be laser focused on >> How much time do you take to do that?
20:32>> A couple seconds. It was I just closed my eyes and thought about it and I saw their faces, you know, taking a deep breath, you know, and uh got it got over that piece of it and and then started moving out >> and I remember I broke the front the front uh the strut on the front right side of my truck. Right. So now I got the wheel rubbing on side the the wheel well and catches on fire. So I'm the only truck with his wheels on fire [laughter] doing 5 miles down on the road going shoot me shoot wheels are on fire.
20:59>> Yeah. Because the stretch because the road roads were so bad, you know. And uh but I I I lived through it. Got through the other side and uh we had maybe seven trucks get shot up, couple more casualties, but uh we got all the way out on the other side. Like I said, they own about 7 kilometers of this dirt road. And I remember we're listening to the radio and the commander's yelling at uh the guy that was had the clacker for the IEDs because there was a there was a S turn and he had set the IEDs up in the S turn right in the apex there when we knew we had to kind of slow down to come around that corner
21:30>> and uh and he never fired the IED and the commander's like yelling, "Why did you blow up the IDE?" He goes, "I couldn't serve because they were shooting so many bullets at me I couldn't get my head up." I go, "Well, I guess the plan worked, you know." And so we didn't we didn't get IDed. Um, we did take some shots and stuff like that, some casualties, but uh, you know, we got out of it. But after I got out of that, I thought that's it. That's it. I made it. I'm done. That's that's it.
21:52It's all over. You know, >> that was it for that.
21:54>> That was it for for that that war. I was out of there, right? You know, and uh came back and [gasps] started doing all the Hollywood stuff and the corporate stuff and, you know, and Hong Kong stuff. So, >> yeah.
22:07>> Yeah. Every story I hear about the Middle East and the global war on terror, it just it almost doesn't feel real because it wasn't long ago. I mean, it just ended like a year and a half ago or whatever it was. And >> you know, the the the [clears throat] it's it's like it's halfway around the world, but you guys saw it. You saw exactly what it was. You saw life in danger at all times. not just your own but you know the people who live there and by their own people in many cases with a with a place like Afghanistan.
22:38But when you we we touched on it a little bit already but when you saw the imagery that looked like leaving Saigon basically like a redux of that in 20 August 2021 with Afghanistan falling.
22:51Was there were you one of those guys who was like [ __ ] we got to go there. We got to go find the interpreters that that you know helped me over those years or whatever. Like what what was going through your head?
23:00>> Yeah. So all right so while I was operating over there I operate operated under a pseudonym right I never used my real name there's a reason for that obviously you know um of course CIA >> well [laughter] you know now you know I'm everybody knows dude I walk down the street all around the world and people go hey are you the American badass and the first thing I go uh depends [laughter] are you a good guy or a bad guy you know I mean I get that a lot you know obviously I can't escape the must and I don't care I don't to either. I'm not trying to >> Yeah, that mustache. I can see that [ __ ] >> I don't Everybody thinks I'm Stone Cold
23:35Steve Austin. So, I take a lot of [laughter] pictures pretend to be him like Yeah. And sometimes uh sometimes it's the uh what's the name? The Hulk Hulk. Hulk Hogan. And then sometimes also um what's it? Vin Diesel, right?
23:47Not so much. My son actually >> You get Vin Diesel.
23:49>> Actually, my son gets Vin Diesel. He looks just like Vin Diesel.
23:52>> I was going to say I'm calling [ __ ] on that one.
23:53>> Yeah, but I No, I have gotten Vin Diesel. I'm like, you know, >> most people are [ __ ] blind.
23:57>> Yeah. [laughter] >> I don't know. So yeah, anyways, um but to your point, you know, when that happened, when Cabbell fell, >> I don't know how a lot of my soldiers because they never knew me by my full name. Never. And they never had but they found me. They found me on social media, Facebook, >> and they called me commander cuz for all intents and purposes, I was their commander. And it was like, commander, can you help me? Can you save me and my family? Can you come? And I tried.
24:26Actually, I had a couple guys and their families lined up to go out on a couple lifts. One was an Australian bird. Um, and uh, both of them fell through. I actually actually wrote them letters to get them passage through the gates, you know, so I can show, hey, look, you know, this guy blah blah blah, you know, he's vouching for me. I tried everything I could to get these guys out and um, to no avail. Um it was just very hard to get them out and and they was they're even to this day they're still texting me. Uh I got a guy 3 days ago just text me, "Commander, commander, how are you?"
25:00You know, and that's how it starts and I know what they want. Can you get me? Can you help me? Um actually part of my unit um was killed um in a raging firefight protecting our base and uh it was on the news and they all went down. They went down blazing man to to the man. So half my unit's gone, dead, killed. Yeah.
25:20trying to trying to defend the camp, you know, the base.
25:23>> Um, and it did make the news. I know who they are. I know the camp. Some people know who it is, but uh those guys are gone. And there was only 42 guys in my platoon. And um and so I told my guys, I said, "Man, you got you're going to have to run for the hills, but there's nowhere to go." He said, "The as soon as they find out who you are and who you were working for, you're a dead man." In fact, there had one guy text me hiding with his family. Literally texted me in hiding. He said, "They're outside right now looking for me. What can I do? What do you I don't know what to even tell you at that point. You know, you're
25:56Johnny on the spot." But, uh, I just felt so bad because they were pleading with me to help them, you know. I'm the guy that was always there for them, leading them, you know, leading in the combat, making decisions, you know, taking care of their welfare, you know, and I was I was the daddy, man, you know, and suddenly daddy can't help them, you know, and I and it was and it really made a lot of guys mad, you know.
26:19My guys were like, you know, now you just kick us to the curb. You know, the chips are down. You're just going to leave us behind. And unfortunately, I'm sure a lot of them are dead. You know, since then, >> um they can't get out. The roads are blocked. They're contained. You know, it's >> Yeah, it's pretty irritating, man, when I think about that. These are guys, let me tell you how loyal these these Afghans were. Um Oh, yeah.
26:42>> You know, I remember I had the same 42 dudes. They were some of the best Afghans in over there and we would go do ops all the time. In fact, we had a twoman rule in Afghanistan. That twoman rule stated that, you know, as an American, you never go out without another American. You always at least two Americans no matter what you do, right? But I broke the rule all the time. I usually went out by myself with my guys. That's how much I trust them.
27:05In fact, they would stand there and look at me and go, "Mr. Dale, don't you worry." He goes, "We'll form a wall around you. We will not let anything happen to you." And I knew they wouldn't. I mean, these guys would freaking get it on, man. And uh and I and I win their hearts and minds because I'm the guy that, you know, if something didn't go right, you know, hey, take the day off, here's a bonus, you know, man, we had tons of money for these guys, you know, and I I made sure I took care of them, kept them happy, and every time I uh rotated out for vacation before I come back, every time I left, um I'm the
27:37only guy that I can remember where they would actually have a formation and they would lay out all these things like war rugs. um uh women's af traditional women's Afghan dresses and you know all kinds of you know cheesy jewelry and stuff you know all Afghan stuff for me and they'd bring me out front and center and they want you know thank me for you know mentor them and you know and all these gifts the war rugs were really cool I still have those you know and they're they're very famous over it's a rug it's got tanks on it and missiles and it's like handmade you know and handdrawn they're kind of cool and u and
28:11so the guys actually really loved me and took care for me and I knew that I would never have to worry about these guys turning on me. I trained them. I fed them. I paid them, you know. I was just because that's what you do. You You got to be good to your soldiers, man. You got to treat them like your brothers, not like, you know, cannon fodder. And um and when this happened, you know, and they're asking for my help and I'm totally helpless. I can't do anything.
28:36I've tried. I just I almost thought I had someone on the airplane and that fell through, you know. They couldn't even get through the gates with the documents, nothing, man.
28:45>> Um, they were just left out hanging, you know, high and dry.
28:48>> And, you know, I I think back to Somalia, you know, so so in Moadishu, remember, right? The big firefight October 3rd, October 4th. And I remember on >> 92. Yep. 92. And I remember um the next morning, maybe October 6th or 7th, something like that. I can't remember the exact day now. Uh, Colonel Garrison at the time, well, General Garrison in the in the movie Blackhawk Down, he was the Delta Force commander, Colonel Garrison. Um, very good guy, very good officer, very welldiked, and he he had a formation very early in the morning, like soon as the sun came up in front of the hangers, he we got all lined up, you know, and um
29:30and I remember he said, I still remember what he said. He goes, "Gentlemen," he goes, "War is nothing more than extension of politics."
29:39And he goes, he goes, "As of today, we are going to redeploy and go back to US.
29:46Operations are over." And we're all standing there just dumbfounded going, "Wait a minute. We're still missing men.
29:52>> We're still missing people, right?
29:54Bodies." You know, these >> someone's going to lose an election in November, though.
29:59>> You know, and this remember Bill Clinton in time in office and we're all kind of looking at each going, "Wait a minute.
30:04As a soldier, you're required to complete the mission, right? That's expected. If you have a mission, your job is to complete the mission. Mission and then men. Okay, that's the the the order. And we have a mission. Our mission was to come there and basically kill or capture Adid, right? The warlord. That mission wasn't complete.
30:24Moreover, we've already lost bodies and we can't find them, right? And there's people out they need our help, Americans.
30:30And so what we expect as soldiers is that our commanders, including the commander-in-chief, the president Clinton, to have the same resolve to continue the mission and see it to its end. And he didn't. [clears throat] He said, "No, we're going to basically we got punched in the nose. We're going to go home."
30:48And I, well, all these men are dead for what? And why? So you just quit and go home? You know, we want to continue to to to campaign. at least get our bodies back, you know, and this guy just want he's done. Made no sense, right? And I and it's one of the few times where I really looked at started looking at combat and war differently and I started looking at the politics of it all and sometimes I started questioning. I was like, you know, what is this all about, man? What what are we do? Who am I? Why am I doing this in, you know? And then when Cobble happened, I go, there it is again.
31:20>> You know, we we wasted so many lives, you know. Wasted so many lives to what end? Nothing. Nothing.
31:27>> Nothing. Right. So, those are two occasions in my military career. You know, I'm 60 years old and I've been in the military since I was 18, you know, or working for the government in this capacity. Those are two incidents that really stand out. And I'm like, wow. You know, the US government had no problem wasting lives, good men, and putting their families and their children out there, you know, without their fathers and uh and they didn't have the balls to complete the mission. The same thing they expect from us. If I didn't complete the mission, you know, I get hung out to dry, you know, I'm a [ __ ]
32:02bird for not doing my job. But they don't do their job, you know, and their excuse is what what what was the excuse?
32:09There's no excuse. You think >> all the guys in offices in DC, they can make decisions from there, you know.
32:14>> Exactly. Right. And so, you know, and and [sighs] man, that's one of those things in my, you know, that really, really pisses me off when I think about it is I think about the good men like Gary, for example, Gary Gordon, you know, that are gone for what, you know, Mark, a friend of mine, >> who was who was Gary?
32:33>> Gary Gordon, Congressional Medal of Honor winner in Moadishu.
32:36>> Oh, right.
32:36>> Right. Um, and others. I mean, they're dead now. You know, I mentioned the seal earlier who died a year after, you know, his adopted a little baby girl. You know, it's like, okay, for what? Why' all that happen? You know, um >> yeah, sadly, it is what it is. Um [snorts] you know, world, you know, war is a racket. And um you know, when people >> How do you stop that?
32:57>> You don't stop it. You know why? I'll quote uh Gustaf Leone. He said, "Man is a waring ape." We've been since the dawn of time, since the dawn of man, we've had over 12,000 wars. You know, this is on our nature. War is our nature. This is what we do. You know why? We're driven by three things. We're driven by three things in my in my estimation.
33:18Power, >> money, and [ __ ] [clears throat] At the end of the day, procreation, those are the three things that drive us, right?
33:25And we fease and we fight for that [ __ ] right? And we kill for that stuff. It's it's really what it comes down to. And as long as as long as there's power, there's money, and there's [ __ ] there's going to be conflict, you know, and uh it's never going to end. And so there's no utopia. Get over it. Um so now what we've got to do is if we can, first of all, we don't have to accept it, but just know this is a reality that, you know, combat and war is is what it is. Prepare for it, but also know that, you know, life's not fair.
33:55And if you can at least come to terms with that, your life will be a little bit easier. you know, everybody wants to live in utopia. You know, Kumbaya, it's not going to happen. It never happened.
34:04Okay? Uh let's be realistic about it.
34:06So, we're not going to stop it. We're not going to change it. You know, the best we can do is we've got to we've got to rein in the decision makers, the politicians. Those are the guys that are doing it. You know, you and I aren't going out starting fights. We're not going out starting wars.
34:20>> In order to rein them in, we have to rein in the people who really make the decisions on them, which is the people who pay them.
34:26>> Exactly. Exactly. So, how do you do that? Cuz again, and and I'm not I'm not calling you out here or anything. We need guys like you in the world, >> but you know, you're >> when you take contracts now, like >> you're you're taking contracts from some of these companies or the governments who are backed by those companies and stuff.
34:45>> So, how do you if if you know you're needed [snorts] in so many of these situations, which I agree you are, where does the line stop to where you get to the point where guys aren't needed? And how do you determine that line?
34:58>> Yeah, this is for me personally. This is why I pick and choose what I do. This is why you won't find me in Ukraine. I ain't going to have I got nothing to do with that. You're not going to find me in Israel. I got nothing to do with that. It doesn't affect my life. Doesn't affect the American way of life. Um, you know, I pick and choose my fights. Uh, the other stuff I've done, you know, if I'm going to kill terrorists, I I'm okay with that because they're never going to abate and all I can do is become a speed bump for them, you know. So, I pick and choose what I do. Um, yes, I want to get paid, you know. I don't do it because
35:29the money's good. I make money doing it.
35:31Look, I got a security company already, right? I don't I don't need to go out and do this kind of work. I never did need to do this kind of work.
35:36>> What makes you want to do it? Like when you get a job where you got to go into a dangerous place cuz you said you haven't been in a war zone since 2015, but we talked about some other jobs off camera, which you may get into that you do. I mean, you're going into dangerous places for dangerous people sometimes to >> to help people. To actually help people.
35:53That's the thing. Actually, everything I do is to help people. Um, and I get paid to help them, right? I mean, I've got, you know, I take a lot of risk. I mean, I've done in the last four weeks, I've done at least four different projects in different countries, um, that are not necessarily friendly countries, in fact, communist countries. And I've had to help people that were in trouble. Um, they weren't criminals, they were just in trouble and to through no fault of their own. And I show up and I help them and I get them out. Um, I don't go out and save criminals. I don't go out and save, you know, bad guys. I don't,
36:26that's not what I do. Um, my job is to help those that can't help themselves.
36:31They find themselves in a in a place where they're stuck.
36:34>> Um, I have one guy that [clears throat] >> I won't go I I won't mention the c country because I may need to go back in there. But, uh, yeah, I have to be very careful how I couch this stuff. But, uh, I had one guy call me. He goes, "Hey, man." He goes, "I've literally been I've been banned. I've been locked in this country for five years." Um they did put a travel ban on me and I said, "Why?
36:54What happened?" He goes, "Well, um he he had a girlfriend there. Um that's >> how it starts."
37:01>> Yep. They had a baby. She didn't want to marry him. They had they got joint custody of the kids. She wouldn't let him see the kids. So, he had to go through a um um an enforcement agency there. By the way, this is a communist country. And >> [clears throat] >> u he's got to pay the enforcement agency to make the arrangements so he can see his kid. He paid him. They didn't make the arrangements. He got mad, came back and tried it again. He goes, "This time I'll pay you after you make the arrangements." And they're like, "No, you'll pay us first." He goes, "No, I'll pay you after." Oh, yeah. Watch this.
37:28And they literally put a travel ban on him. Called immigration and locked him down. He wasn't a criminal. Didn't do anything wrong. So, he's not allowed to work and he can't leave the country.
37:36Can't do anything. So, and look, this happens a lot of different places, okay?
37:39A lot. Southeast Asia, Asia, Middle East. I've done this before.
37:43[clears throat] Um, and it sucks. And and you know, again, we talk about, you know, our country and you know, we need to think about how bad other people have in the world. Imagine being locked in. I call it a velvet cage. You can't get out, you know, and uh he's like, "I've been here long enough, man." He goes, "I want to get out." He goes, "I want to bring my son out who's five, you know."
38:02And I said, "Well, that's going to be different." I said, "I can get you out.
38:06I'm not sure about the kid yet."
38:08>> How would you go about getting out a guy like that? Like what's >> It's pretty simple.
38:11>> What are you looking for?
38:12>> It's pretty simple, you know. It's >> it's easy.
38:15>> You know what? Look, you're not going through the airport. You're not going through immigration. Um that's that's never going to happen. Um you're just going to literally have to go across the borders, you know, and you got that's the that's the tricky part. How do you get them across the borders, you know, and take them out to a friendly country and then work them out of there? So, [clears throat] I do that. That's what I do. Um yeah.
38:36>> What goes in? So, let's make up a couple countries here because you don't want to use that example. Fair enough. Let's say you got a guy in [laughter] trying to think of my geography here.
38:50Let's say you have a guy in Syria and he can't get out.
38:52>> Yeah.
38:53>> And you need to get him into what's what's to the east of Iraq's to the south. What's the east of Syria? What touches Syria? Is that Iran?
39:00>> Uh no. No. Um east of Syria. You have Iraq and you have uh Turkey. You have >> Turkey. Okay. So, you want to get someone out. That's perfect. You want to get someone out of Syria into Turkey, which we have some issues with too, but you know, it's a little better. How how are you determining where on the border to take them?
39:18>> Okay, I'll show you.
39:19>> And what to do?
39:19>> Yeah, I'll tell you how it works. Uh how I do it is one, I start with uh an intel analysis. So, I look at do map studies and I look for potential crossover points. I look at border checkpoints. Um I look at uh things like traffic ability, you know, population densities.
39:37Um, a lot of things you have to consider, right? What you're looking for is a hole in the net in the fence that you go through undetected, right? And so that requires not just a map reconnaissance. You start with a map reconnaissance and then you need to do a ground reconnaissance. You need to go put eyes on and confirm, yeah, that's this is doable. Um, it starts with that and then it goes to developing a plan, right? which the plan can be pretty detailed in that, you know, you got to have a cover story, cover for action, cover for status. Why are you here and what are you doing? Oh, I just came out
40:09here driving around the desert just to hang out, you know, or, you know, or I'm in the I'm in the um what's the word I'm looking for? I'm in a public park in the jungle just looking at the monkeys or something, [laughter] right?
40:21That actually happened to me. That actually happened one time. We were actually being tracked. Uh we had a tracker on our on our car to know it and we're we're going up north to the border and uh luckily there was a there is a park there and it's all jungle and we get my the guy I have with me is getting a text message goes, "Hey, are you guys going to the border?" Oh [ __ ] how do they know that? Right. So yeah, find oh god we got to track run us, you know. So now we got to figure out okay, how do we what's the what's the plan for that? So you do we did I do what's called false insertions. So I drive down different
40:56roads in different directions, do loop-de-loops, turn around, park the car for a while, go to a restaurant, you know, and oh no, we're going to go up here and meet some chicks, you know, and uh whatever, right? So everything. So if anybody is tracking you, which they are like on a GPS in a map, then you know it's like these guys are idiots. They're all over the place, you know, what are they doing? Just driving around randomly, you know? But somewhere in that process, the you drop off your your uh customer and uh and you point him in the right direction or you take him across, you walk him across, you know,
41:25walk him to where he's got to go. Um but yeah, >> and then is it on them at that point?
41:30>> Sometimes. Um sometimes it requires more, but usually the goal is to get them free. um get them to where they can get to an embassy and uh whether it's American or whatever embassy that you know whatever national so they can get to the embassy go hey man this is what happened to me you know passports burned lost whatever compromise and can I get a temporary passport to get out you know and go home [snorts] so a lot of times people some people are you know they understand that it's like great roger that you're American we help you actually there's sometimes like and this happened to one of my clients not too
42:04long ago is Karen, right? They're everywhere. Karen, like, oh my god, that's illegal what you did. You can't do that. It's like, [ __ ] I was locked up for five years in a country I couldn't get out of for doing nothing wrong but want to see my son, you know, and you're worried about being illegal and she's chewing she's chewing him up and down, you know, and uh Jesus Christ, Jiminy, you know, and so I'm the I'm the opposite of that. I'm like, dude, I'm going to help you get out of there because I'd hate to be in that situation myself, too, you know.
42:33And uh >> do you talk with a potential client like that on open email?
42:36>> No.
42:37>> I was going to say, how are they contacting you?
42:39>> No, we use different you know there's all kinds of proton mail and all kinds of things.
42:44>> But how do they know where you are? Is it usually someone that's connected to you?
42:48>> They know people watch me. They I mean I've been on so many podcasts and people know who I am, right? And they they reach out.
42:55>> They find a way to >> Yeah. It's easy to find me, right? I don't hide it, you know? In fact, I think you find my phone number on the internet. Um but uh yeah, if you want to find me, I'm reasonably fine.
43:05>> Easy peasy. I usually answer most emails anyways. Um but like I said, I don't do nothing. Yeah, you could call that illegal, but you know, there's fine line between, you know, the law and then what's doing doing what's right, you know, and sometimes it's just to me it's a matter of doing what's right. And uh and I've there's been there's several guys I know that are in this boat in different countries and uh it's not right. They haven't seen their family, their children in years, you know. Um not because it was their fault, just because of circumstances, the way it fell out, they they got caught in it,
43:40you know. Remember when uh in 2010 Dubai, you know, boom, man, everything was going good and all a sudden the bottom fell out. You know, there were a lot of guys, a lot of expats that >> Wait, what happened in 2010?
43:54>> The economy crashed in Dubai. Okay, everything went under badly and a lot of guys went over, invested, started companies and then boom, the bottom falls out and now they're not getting their money, >> right? And they owe money and try try going to that part of the world and get a speeding ticket and don't even know it. And you show up at the airport, turn your rental car in, you ain't getting out until you pay that rental car.
44:17That's ticket. They know. and they pop your visa right there. Right? So, imagine you owe a bank $500,000 or you owe a hospital a bunch of money for something and all of a sudden you got no money coming because the economy crashed from under you and guess what? You're not going nowhere. You're they pull your visa, your travel, your passport and you're locked in till you pay and you can't work either by the way.
44:39>> So, you'll be walking around aimlessly in a country that's not yours, no way to pay and no way to make money and you're like, what do I do? So, I kind of have an issue with that because you know what? Why don't you just lock the guy up? You know, this is kind of stupid, right? It's like it's like having a pet a a pet dog. You I don't want to feed him no more. Just turn him loose in the on the side of the road and f for yourself. Like, what is he supposed to do? He's not trained to hunt. He's just a dog. He's a domestic dog, right? And you do this to an expat. It's not Americans either all the time. It's a
45:09lot of different nationalities that get caught up in these things. And so, now how you got to you got to get them out, you know? And uh there's only limited ways to do it. It's um it's risky business. I don't do much of it. Um I'm not at my age, I'm not prepared to kind of risk that much anymore. I'm more content with just building my business in Indonesia and doing what I do. You know, I do a lot of coaching. You know, I mentioned I forgot to mention that the one thing that I really do do the most and I like the most is I do what I call um mindbody engineering, psychosome engineering. And basically it's
45:45performance coaching. Um >> I really delve into the in the world of um the subconsciousness, autogenic conditioning, neural linguistic programming, self-meditation, um self-hypnosis, all these things. I go into that and I teach people how to enhance their personal performance as well as their professional performance and future performance. Um that's what I really focus on how to be successful at anything that you do in life. Um, I think I have the resume to support that, you know, the success piece of it. Um, that's really what I enjoy doing and that's actually how I meet a lot of people because they see my posts, my
46:19videos and like I want to talk to this guy a little bit more about this and that and that.
46:22>> Wow.
46:23>> And so I've actually got a lot of connections globally, a lot of clients globally. Um, a lot of connections in different space.
46:31>> Um, so I mean I've got friends everywhere if I need them, you know, and uh, and I've built a lot of business around that as well. I'm into trading, commodities, stuff like that. Getting into oil trading, um, stuff like >> that's out of left field.
46:46>> Yeah. So, I wear a lot hard to do.
46:48>> I wear a lot of hats, man. You know, and uh, you know, I don't just I'm just not a to use your word in the beginning, an assassin [laughter] or a mercenary. No. Um, I'm actually a I'm a security consultant adviser. Um, but I'm also >> That's what they call it these days.
47:04>> Yeah. Well, yeah. [laughter] in in combat I'm an adviser in the civilian world I'm a consultant right it's kind of weird but yeah >> um but >> you know I'm I'm a coach life coach that's kind of what I do primarily I'm an author I'm an actor I'm a stunt man I do a lot of different things you know I do trainings um you know it's uh I can wear a lot of different hats dog trainer um I had a guy pay me a lot of money just to fly back and forth to Singapore to train his dog >> that's it >> yeah it's just a nice vacation we go there for a week train dog >> I got a lot of money in Singapore before, right?
47:36>> Yeah, they're loaded, man.
47:37>> Yeah, I was going to say >> it's expensive there, too, but >> it's one of those.
47:40>> But yeah, um >> isn't that wasn't the thing you were talking about before a camera? Wasn't there that one story? Wasn't that client from there?
47:48>> Yeah. Yeah, that was Yeah, that story that you referencing. Um I got a call from that that particular client. In fact, um said, "Hey, you know, my daughter's in Guatemala and she's in trouble. Can you get her out? She's 17 years old." And basically was a school trip gone bad. She was going Yeah, it was a girl school trip, too. They were boarding school. I think they all graduated. She was 17.
48:12>> And all the girls thought, "Hey, it's a great idea. Let's go to Guatemala, you know, for graduation." So, I don't know who picked the uh the hostel that he stayed at. But, uh um man, it was some spooky [ __ ] because I went there. I had to go there to get her suitcases after I already recovered her. And so, he basically asked me if I knew anybody could get her out of there. And I'm like, well, I wouldn't trust anybody to get her out because soon as they know who you are and she is, um, she ain't getting out until you pay a lot of money, you know. I said, so I ended up going and getting her, make a long story
48:40short. Um, [snorts] went down, picked her up. I went on a Monday morning and by Thursday morning, I delivered her to Singapore and put her in her hand.
48:50[laughter] >> Yeah. You know, um, >> yeah. But, uh, that was that's actually pretty easy. So, you know, I I put that in the in the recovery category. I do recovery, repatriation, and rescue operations as well. Um, this one was a a recovery, you know.
49:04>> Where's the wildest place you ever did one of those, [snorts] >> man? I can't tell you. [laughter] Not that I want to. I can't. I I see I have to That's okay. me mentioned Guatemala because I didn't do anything over the top, right? I just flew there, picked her up, brought her out. [snorts] Um, but >> the other stuff I got to be careful because I may need to go back, you know.
49:27>> That's fine. Um >> well where minus jobs like that or something to that nature without detail or that >> is have you ever been somewhere where you're legit spooked being there?
49:43>> Is there a country that comes to mind with that?
49:46>> Um yeah Saudi Arabia.
49:50>> Why? [sighs] Ah man it's a very strange culture. Uh let me tell you how let me tell you how this again talk about freedom and things like that.
50:01Did if you let's say today we say something negative about Saudi Arabia, right? Oh, that sucks. Whatever. Blah blah blah blah blah. Okay. And you post on social media and five years from now you go to Saudi Arabia. Do you know they can arrest you?
50:14>> Oh yeah.
50:15>> For for something you posted five years ago, right? Uh think about that for a minute. So >> I've never gone to Saudi Arabia.
50:20>> Yeah. You're literally walking on eggshells when you go over there and you know you're being watched. Um, >> what do you mean being watched?
50:26>> Everybody's watching and they're listening, right? They're intel.
50:29Everybody, you show up as a white guy, you know, expat, especially an American, you know, you're going to people are going to pay attention to you. Um, >> can they get your Can they wire into your iPhone when you land?
50:42>> Probably. Yeah. Yeah.
50:45They got a lot of capabilities. You know why they got them? Because we gave them to them.
50:48>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] >> So, you know, you're not going to escape all that. So, you got to be very careful what you do over there. Anything that could be construed as business. If you're on their tourist passport and you do anything that could be construed as business, um you could end up in jail right away, you know, and they can detain you as long as they want until they process it and and pass judgment.
51:12Um like literally, you could you can end up being in a detention center for 10 years or two years and nothing's happening. you don't get to talk to anybody and you're waiting for them to make a decision on did you do something wrong or not. It's very scary place. A very scary place. I do not like being there just because of that. you know, coming out. I remember [snorts] um I was leaving the country and you know, they scanned my my bags as I was leaving the country to go into the terminal and I had a keychain in my backpack that had a small um in fact it had a small, if you could see this, this
51:48little metal gun here.
51:50>> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
51:51>> About that size. It was a key ring and I had my house keys on it and it was in my backpack buried. I didn't even know it was still in there. Right. And uh anyways, they found that they pulled me in a secondary. They laid it out there and they're like, "This is not allowed.
52:06This is illegal."
52:07>> What?
52:07>> Yeah. And I'm not [ __ ] right? And I'm almost got in a pissing contest with the guy. I was like, "Are you a freaking Are you an idiot?" You know, because who am I going to kill with that thing? You know, and it was illegal.
52:18>> Wow.
52:18>> It was illegal. And he was really starting to, you know, starting to dress me down on this one. And and I'm like trying to have a convers. I said, "No, this is my keychain for my house key.
52:28You cannot have this. This is I'm" I said, "I'm getting on air. I'm leaving your country. You cannot have this." And it started getting a little, you know, a little heated, you know. And I remember reminding myself, comtock, you're not going to win. Not in their country.
52:41Yeah.
52:41>> You know, shut up or you end up in that detention center, you know, [laughter] you know, for for for carrying a firearm through an airport. That's how they're going to even though it's this freaking big, right?
52:50>> So, I said, "Can I at least have my key off the damn thing?" He kind of almost was hesitant to give me my key. I was like, I finally got my key, you know. I gave him the stupid thing, you know, and like god dang, man. I had a I had another thing. It was a little a little tiny uh screwdriver set and the screwdrivers were like maybe an inch long.
53:06>> Oh, try and take it on the plane.
53:08>> Yeah. In my backpack. It's a little It's not It's not a web. You can't do anything with it, you know, unless they thought I was going to take >> I think a guy like you could do something with that.
53:14>> Oh my god, dude. I could do more with this the the soup bone than I can anything else, man. [laughter] a screwdriver there. You know, let me put this thing together and do something. Drill some guys head. Um drill the doors up the knobs off the uh the cockpit door.
53:29>> Well, we know we can't do that. That that we learned. Yeah. [laughter] >> Anyway, it just Yeah. A lot of lunacy out there, man. And uh you just got to shut your mouth, respect the rules, and move out, you know. And sometimes that can be a little tough, you know. And some people can really grate your nerves with some of the crap, you know. Um, that was one of the places I was a little uncomfortable with. Um, not I'd say a lot uncomfortable with you. I I always just felt like I'm always being watched, you know. And I just There's other places I've been to where I know I was being watched. I know they had
54:02cameras in the rooms. Every time I show up in country, I stay in a hotel, they put me in the same room.
54:06>> Oh, yeah. You know, I mean, I already know that, you know. So, >> you waving to all of them.
54:11>> Yeah. Undressing. You're doing give me a little show, you know. [laughter] Yeah, there's Yeah, >> a friend of mine has been going back and forth to Saudi Arabia a little bit. And, you know, he talks about some of some of the slight outward shifts in culture.
54:32They're, you know, some women can drive now, like they're making some basic steps, I guess. But he talks about also how, you know, it is so a lot of it is so beautiful and clean and the price to that is that the level of strictness and what they do to people just taking them off the streets. Smallest thing wrong.
54:52>> Yeah. Yeah.
54:54>> Scary. I mean, you you jaywalk.
54:56>> Yeah. I wouldn't call it clean either, honestly. Um, >> well, the places he's been I I'll forget the cities he's been in, but the places he's been are like some of the more >> Yeah. up, you know, upscale type destination places they're trying to show to people.
55:11>> Yeah. Yeah. They're actually inviting a lot of tourists in, right? Because I think what's happening, they're going to the the oil thing is starting to dry up and they're trying to Well, I think what's happening is maybe they see the threat in the future of the electric cars. Uh but there's a for whatever reason they're trying to attract more tourism. And uh I got to be honest with you, we went there as tourists and we went to all the tourist sites and there was nothing there. I'm like, "What?" I thought there was something cool here to see, but there's actually nothing. See, I went to one castle. It's like, it
55:41looked like a sand castle on the beach that a kid built. It's like, that's it.
55:44That's the castle. It's like, did they just kind of build this thing up real quick? You know, it's not even a good one, you know? It's just Yeah. Um I Yeah, I don't know what there is to see there. I didn't see anything worth uh wasting my time is what I did. But uh who knows, you know, maybe I didn't look look hard enough. But I've been to a lot of bad places. I've been to a lot of shitty countries. I've been to some countries that were actually very surprising like uh Vietnam for example.
56:08Um it's a communist country but I was actually surprised man how well organized it was and people were thriving and you know people were some people were driving really nice cars and you know people could do what they kind of want you know had a lot of freedom. I was like, "Okay, not what I imagined, you know." Um, not at all. You know, I remember one time I was riding a motorcycle and pouring rain and I had to go a long way. I I rode this bike for like 16 hours, man. And it was pouring rain. I didn't have a poncho. I pulled over to this little whatever little shop on the outside, little cafe thingy. And
56:44I walk in and it's pouring rain. I asked the lady, I said, "Hey, you guys sell your ponchos here?" She goes, "No." I go, "It's raining, you know." And and she didn't have Okay. And she go, "Wait, wait, wait." She runs in the back room and she brings out her own personal poncho, you know, and uh she gives it to me. Here, here, here. I said, "Oh, that how much? How much?" She goes, "No, no, no. You have like to pay." I said, "No, really." No. I said, "No, no, no." I said, "Okay." I said, "Uh, I'll buy I'll buy all that stuff. I want to buy all that right there." You know, and I I bought some stuff and I gave her a whole
57:09bunch of money, you know, on top of that, you know. But I was actually surprised how nice she was to me. Like, wow, she, you know, but then there were other places I went to like especially the men. I go get gas. I'm like, "Hey, uh, need gas, you know."
57:21I'm like, "No, I just want gas." You know, it's like they had attitude like, "Whoa, just, you know, gas, you know, fill it up. Here's my money." I get out.
57:27>> Sounds like the gas station around here.
57:29>> Yeah, it's probably no probably [laughter] no different. Maybe it was something personal. I don't know. But overall, >> when you pull up, I'm like, "Can I get some gas?" It's like they're [ __ ] They're pissed you pulled up. I'm like, "Aren't I paying you?"
57:37>> Gas for what? Well, for what? What do you need to get?
57:39>> [ __ ] [laughter] out of here.
57:40>> No, actually, uh, I was actually surprised. That was one of the places that really surprised me. Um, my wife wants to go there and I said, "Yeah, we'll I'll probably take her back over there one of these days." But, um, though I was mentioning in the car, Hong Kong was one of my favorite cities >> um, until the Chinese took it over. That was kind of a [ __ ] show. I was there in 2015 when the British handed Hong Kong back to China. And when I lived there, man, it was so cool, man.
58:08And you know, everybody spoke English, you know, of course they spoke Chinese, you know, just seemed like a really cool place to live. Very well organized, good uh infrastructure, transportation system, >> you know, the Brits had it, you know, so it's pretty squared away.
58:23>> And then when and I was there when they were protesting, right, the the protest started 2019.
58:28>> Oh my god, man. There were thousands and thousands and thousands of people on the streets waving American flags. American flags, right?
58:34>> Were you doing a job there at the time?
58:36Uh I was protecting a billionaire Russ uh bodyguard. I was running security, you know, for a multi-billionaire investment banker. So I live there downtown and uh and I watched these parades all you know whatever just demonstrations and you know it was amazing. They were literally you know um you know flying the don't trade on me flags you know the yellow um 2A you know American flags you know and I'm like wow. and they're they're asking they wish they had you know the second amendment because they're disarmed and they're going to get taken over or whatever Chinese government is going to take over and they knew they're going to
59:11be doomed man I felt really bad for them u because they're actually really cool people and good people and then once all that happened the transition happened I I went back a few times and it was so different they took English out of the schools um a lot of the rural people now came to the city you know and they're selling their their their wares and stuff and they can't speak English. They don't want to speak English. Um, it just seemed like, yeah, it just didn't seem a very like a welcoming place anymore, you know. Thank you guys for checking out this clip. If you haven't already subscribed, please subscribe and hit the
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