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13:21Hey everybody and welcome to the Jimmy Door Show. I am of course not Jimmy Door. I'm your guest host, Misty Winston. Thanks for tuning in tonight.
13:28Uh we have a jam-packed show. It is insane. [laughter] Had a hard time uh trying to figure out what the heck we were going to cover today because there's so much going on.
13:36Um just a heads up though, Jimmy is uh or does have some shows coming up this weekend in Levittown, New York at the Governor's Comedy Club. So if you are in the area on Friday or Saturday, uh you can get tickets to those shows and any of Jimmy shows at jimmyd.com. So make sure you check that out. Um, and again, we have so much going on today that [laughter] we we really just have to jump right in. Um, so there's big news happening today. I'm sure many of you have already seen it uh happen earlier today. Kier Starmer has actually resigned, which is kind of crazy considering um the insane amount of uh
14:10leaders that they have gone through over the course of the past, I don't know, decade or so. Um, so let's jump into this. So it says Britain's Prime Minister Kiermer says he will resign with a new leader to be in place by the time parliament returns in September, paving the way for Britain to have its seventh leader in 10 years. That is wild behavior. So um we are going to take a listen. It is sped up um because it is kind of a longer speech, but he did give a speech um about his resation resignation today. So we're going to take a listen to that real quick.
14:38>> Party is asking now.
14:41The question my party is asking now is whether I am best placed to lead us into the next general election. I have heard the answer of my parliamentary party to that question. And I accept that answer with good grace. Every decision I've taken has been about putting the country I love first. That is why I will resign as leader of the Labor Party.
15:05>> So there you have it. Kirst Starmer has resigned. Um this is I mean it's kind of not surprising he has been under a significant amount of pressure. So we're going to read this from the Associated Press. British Prime Minister Kier Starmer said Monday he will resign forced out by his own party after missteps and mistakes soured voters goodwill following a landslide election victory two years a two years ago on a promise of steady leadership and economic growth which he did not do any of that. Uh Starmer says he will remain caretaker prime minister until his Labor party chooses a new leader with
15:36expectations growing that it will be former Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham. Um it was Burnham's victory in a special parliamentary election last week that triggered Starmer's decision to resign as Labor lawmakers flocked to the charismatic former mayor in the hope he can revive the party's fortunes.
15:52After nearly a decade as mayor of the northwestern city, Burnham uh returned Monday to Parliament where he took the oath of office in the House of Commons.
16:00Only members of parliament are eligible for the party leadership. Starmer is the sixth prime minister in a decade to stand outside number 10 Downing Street and announce a departure. His statement came the day before Britain marks the 10th anniversary of its vote to leave the European Union, a decision that still royals the country's uh economy and politics. After weeks of insisting he would fight to keep his job, Starmer conceded to growing pressure to hand over hand over to a new leader who can try to revive the government's flagging fortunes. Um he led labor to a landslide victory in July of 2024, but since then
16:35his popularity and that of the party have plummeted. Star has struggled to deliver promised economic growth, repair tattered public services, and ease the cost of living. He has been hamstrung by repeated missteps, including his decision to appoint Peter Mandlesson.
16:47Never a good idea. a scandal tarnished friend of Jeffrey Epstein of all people as UK ambassador to the United States.
16:54Uh Labor is losing liberal voters to the growing Green Party and facing a rising reform UK, the Nigel Farageled anti-immigrant immigration party that consistently leads a nation leads in nationwide opinion polls. Can't talk today. Uh, US President Donald Trump weighed in even before an announcement linking Starmer's exit to two of the Republican leaders recurring grievances, immigration and renewable energy. And in true Donald Trump fashion, his tweets are so I don't know. It's like a toddler. I don't It's crazy. Kirsty will resign as prime minister of the United Kingdom. He failed badly on two very
17:30important subjects, immigration and energy. Open North Sea oil. I wish him well. President DJT. Um he just has such an interesting style [laughter] of tweeting. Uh Starmer's initially warm relationship with Trump has soured in recent months over issues including the Iran war which the UK didn't join. Good for them. European Commission President Ursula Vanderion uh praised Starmer's legacy. Quote, "It can take many leaders years to grow into the statesmen you became in just two years." She said on exe and Ukrainian security is stronger because of you. Thank you, dear Kier.
18:04Uh, and then of course here is uh from Adam Media uh media here starmerette to resign finally. I think a lot of people have that sort of uh uh reaction to this. It's shocking that it took this long to be honest with you. So let's recap his two years of selling out according to Adam. Uh he won the largest labor majority in a generation, a historic mandate, the country in his hands. He then appointed Peter Mandlesson, Epstein's man in Britain as his first major hire. uh cracked down on Palestinian protests and civil liberties, backed every war, backed genocide, raised taxes, historic unemployment, did absolutely nothing
18:41about the cost of living except make it worse, uh caved like a corrupt coward on abolishing leasehood, rolled out digital ID, forced ID for all new accounts, banned social media for young people, and increased anti-semitism education in schools. It continues, the result, lost nearly 1500 council seats in a single local election. a net approval rating of minus66, the most unpopular prime minister since records began. That is quite the title to have there. Uh, and here's what should terrify the labor establishment.
19:13Only 5% of labor voters who left went to reform. 32% went to Greens and Lib Dems.
19:19Uh, they didn't lose to the right, they lost to the left that they abandoned.
19:23And I think that we're seeing this. We see that we're seeing this here, right?
19:25The Democrats are having the exact same issue. um they're they're not losing they're not they're losing their own base is essentially what is happening here. Um they're moving to the right and losing the left. Um which is very similar to what's happening in the UK.
19:39Kirsty was never there to represent you.
19:41He was there to neutralize the left and hand the establishment to terms of safe managed decline. Mission accomplished sort of sound familiar? I mean that is exactly what is happening here. Uh he the the Democratic party is not here to represent you. they are simply here to neutralize the left and that I mean we can it mirrors us so dramatically. Um uh Giannis Var Varafakus I always say his name wrong and I apologize. Um this is a really well-written tweet. It's very long but it is a very well-ritten tweet.
20:11Uh he says Kirst was not merely a disappointment. He is a mandacious figure of ethical decrepitude. A man who won the Labor Party leadership based on promises that he jettisoned 5 seconds after winning. a labor leader who dared banish from the Labor Party not only his predecessor but also remarkable human beings like Director Ken Loach, the gentleman who has taken the historic Labor Party and transformed it into a vessel for the very oligarchy he was elected to restrain. Consider the litany of Starmer's moral and logical failures.
20:41He promised a different Britain. Yet his actions were a masterclass in Torylight politics using the same maxed out credit card analogies that once served the austerity brigades to justify his own failure of vision. He promised a human rights lawyers approach, but he embraced a racist light version of Farage. On Europe, Starmer promised the Brexiteeers that Brexit is Brexit, yet stood before those who yearn to rejoin the European Union, winked at them to make them feel that Britain would gradually reconnect, even rejoin with the EU. while offering nothing of substance. This is not leadership. It is a fraud.
21:16And then there's the manner in which Starmer and his government rushed to offer Israel unequivocal support in pursuing its genocide in Gaza, sacrificing precious political and civil liberties in the UK by imprisoning grandmothers, priests, and peaceful activists who dared support Palestine action, an organization that Starmer and his minions prescribed as terrorists for practicing the usual activist tactics of trespassing to spray paint military planes that had demonstrabably aided in the genocide. To add insult to injury, Starmer performed the diplomatic pantoime of recognizing a Palestinian state in a manner that ensured it would
21:50never happen. And I'm sure everybody is familiar with the Palestine action um saga that has been going on. They prescribe them as terrorists. They're really just they're just activists.
22:00Everyday activists. I am an activist. We worked on the street on for Julian Assange. They're trying to label anybody who is an activist who cares at all about any issue whatsoever as a terrorist. They're doing that in this country as well. They're doing it over there with Palestine Action. Literally, if you just held up a sign at a protest that says, "I stand with Palestine Action or I support Palestine Action," you would get arrested. They were literally arresting grandmothers, grandfathers, pregnant women, you name it. Um simply for holding a sign in support of Palestine action. It's insanity. Uh his tweet continues, "But
22:36above all else, this is a government that has learned nothing from the post208 era. Star and his chancellor are playing the same tired austerity game while enabling and empowering the finance curse perpetuated by the city of London, throwing in for good measure cuts, and international aid to fund a military spending trickle under the guise of a strategic defense review.
22:56It's the same old doctrine. Austerity for the masses, socialism for the finance years, and the arms dealer."
23:01Again, does that sound familiar? Uh history will remember Mr. Starmer as a man without conviction. A prime minister who offers not a shred of honesty but merely the cruel illusion of change. He is ethically decrepit because he has chosen he had chosen consciously to abandon principle for power and for that history will indict him. Good riddance I say. Um and I'm hearing a lot of people in the UK are just really grateful to see him gone. Um he is a terrible individual. So this is um there's a couple things that I'm going to play here just to give you an idea of who this turd is. Um so he says we have to
23:35make the case for freedom of movement as Kierstar heads to the European Commission for a meeting with Ursula Vanderline uh on rebuilding relations with the European European Union. Here's a throwback to 2020. And let me me find the right video first.
23:51[clears throat] Here we welcome mig We welcome migrants. We don't scapegoat them. Low wages, poor housing, poor public services are not the fault of migrants and people who come here.
24:08They're political failure. Political failure.
24:12So we have to make the case for the benefits of migration, the benefits of free movement.
24:19And this is something that he I mean as you're going to see he uh 100% backed off of um pretty instantaneously after saying these things. Um he has been really anti-immigrant ever since then. So uh Kier Starmer resigns from the UK prime minister. He made a statement saying mass mass invasion of the UK was done by design and all the western leaders were in on it. Starr is responsible for the rape and murder of countless UK citizens. Um, so here is where he kind of backs off of that >> because a failure, here we go.
24:55>> Because a failure on this scale isn't just bad luck. It isn't a global trend or taking your eye off the ball. No, this is a different order of failure.
25:08This happened by design, not accident.
25:13policies were reformed deliberately to liberalize immigration.
25:19Brexit was used for that purpose to turn Britain into a one-nation experiment in open borders.
25:28Global Britain.
25:32>> Yeah. So there's Kirsty on that. Um, and then this is this is what I remember most and I'm glad that somebody brought this up and posted about it because this is exactly how I remember Kier Starmer.
25:47I remember seeing this video um and just being absolutely gobsmacked that this is something that he would say out loud.
25:55Um, it is I mean it it is par for the course I think right now for Western leaders. um the sort of despicable things that they are willing to say out loud when it comes to things like Gaza.
26:07Uh but this I thought was really pretty disgusting. So let's take a listen to this.
26:13>> Israel must have I'm very clear. Israel must have that does have that right to defend herself. Um and Hamas bears responsibility.
26:23>> A siege is appropriate. Cutting off power, cutting off water. I think that Israel does have that right. It is an ongoing situation. Um obviously everything should be done within international law but I don't want to step away from the sort of core principles that Israel has a right to defend herself and Hamas bears responsibility for these terrorist and I would call on all responsible states particularly Middle East um responsible states to call this out for what it is um and to stand with the world in condemning utterly condemning these actions by Hamas.
27:06>> I mean, yes, let's call it what it is.
27:08It's a genocide, my guy. And um Israel doesn't have a right to defend itself.
27:13It's not defending itself. It has never been defending itself. It is committing a genocide for the greater Israel project. Everybody knows that. We all know that. But the idea that he can sit sit there in front of that man and the man is asking him, "Do you think that Israel should be allowed to turn off electricity, to deny them water, all of those things that are very clearly war crimes?" And he says, "Yeah, Israel has a right to defend itself." And that is absurd on every level. It is crazy to me that that is even a consideration. Um, and that a Western leader can sit on a national television show and proclaim
27:46that that is something that should be allowed is wild to me. But I mean, we're going to talk about it a little later in the show. The the support for Israel is certainly waning. Um, and I think that that's a little piece of why we're seeing Kier Sharmmer have to resign. Um, I mean, among other things, listen, this guy was a epic failure. I mean, he did nothing that he and this is really um uh no surprise. I wish we had this sort of opportunity in the United States to remove uh leaders like this in the midst of a term um because all of them would be fired immediately. None of them hold up to their end of the bargain. He is
28:21really no different. But the idea that the UK is now I mean having to go through this whole this whole thing again and they have to go through finding another prime minister again and it I mean what did they say it is? This is the is it the seventh? What did it say? Um I think it's the seventh in like 10 years or something crazy that is I mean that's wild um that they have so much um I don't know if like unrest is but just really just distrust um in the government and the but the the idea that they're holding him accountable and that he was able to be forced out I think is really uh that's nice. That's nice that they have that
29:02opportunity that they can sort of force him out on his uh rear end. Um it'll be interesting to see how the next person plays out though. Um I'm not really sure that they have uh I mean I know it's this guy from Manchester. He's a really popular mayor and things like that. But I mean at this point it seems as if it's just one it's just like a what is a conveyor belt of failure. Um, and I'm not really sure that they have that there's anything brighter ahead, but Kirsty is out. Um, good for the UK, I think, in my opinion. Um, he was a giant douche canoe. Um, and was definitely no friend to Gaza, as we just saw in that
29:42last video there. He was, um, a horrible individual who was more than willing to let Israel commit all kinds of atrocities against the people of Gaza.
29:52Um, and, uh, good for them that they were able to get him out. Um, okay. So, um, let's go ahead. Uh, we we're going to move to a guest that we have now. I'm very excited. Um, so let me just pull up.
30:08Sorry, I have some things going on here with my computer. Um, okay. So, um, I'm sorry, my computer is frozen.
30:19[laughter] Um, okay. Uh, as in in case you guys are just tuning in, welcome to the Jimmy Door Show. My name is Misty Winston. I'm your guest host for today. Jimmy is um off gallivanting. Please check out jimmy door.com for tickets to um all show shows that he has coming up. He has a couple uh in New York this weekend. Um check those out. You can get tickets for all of the stuff there. Shows are always being announced, so make sure you check those out. Um and now I'm very excited.
30:45We have a really great guest that um we're going to bring in now. It's Kin Silva who is an investigative reporter whose work frequently appears in the Epic Times where he discusses topics including FBI operations and political investigations. Uh he has also appeared on the Scott Horton Show. Scott's a friend of mine uh and Tucker Carlson show uh and is author of the recently released The Trump Assassination Plots: What the Investigations Missed and Why It Matters. And I'm really excited to have him on the show today um because this is something Ken, thank you so much for joining us. I appreciate you taking
31:15the time. Um, but this is a story, Ken, that is crazy to me and I feel like it is completely disappeared from conversation and coverage, which is wild to me because an assassination attempt, not one but two that you cover in your book. And then there was obviously the one at the uh uh White House correspondents dinner. Um, but the two that you cover in your book, they're I mean were very close together and really have disappeared from the conversation.
31:40They're not really being discussed.
31:41Donald Trump doesn't even really bring them up. Um, so what made you uh want to dig into this further and why do you think it's not being talked about more?
31:49>> Uh, yeah, sure. So, first of all, thanks so much for having me and I'm sure a lot of your viewers aren't too familiar with me, but I've been an investigative reporter for nearly 15 years now, but most of it was local news and overseas.
32:02I didn't jump into kind of alternative media until late 2021. So I had missed, you know, COVID, Russia gate, the 2020 election, January 6, all these major stories that came to define the next, you know, five, six years. And so when I saw, you know, what happened July 2024, Trump gets grazed by a bullet in the ear, I immediately wanted to just latch on to that story and be uh kind of the leading reporter for it in the country.
32:32And you know, to your point, there surprisingly hasn't been much competition, which you could maybe understand from the mainstream media point of view that it's politically inconvenient for them. So, they don't want to really make Trump into a a victim. But what's been puzzling is the silence from conservative media. And in fact, Trump's own proxies are pretty much uh turning the tables and saying, you know, there's nothing really here to see. Uh Dan Bonino, the former FBI director, this has kind of blown up the last two weeks on Twitter when Tucker Carlson came out and said Trump himself closed down the investigations and
33:12Bonino blew up calling Carlson a liar.
33:16And so I went back and looked at kind of the timeline of events and in fact uh Bonino took office March 17, 2025 and it was like within a week Trump said he had been briefed on the assassination attempts. Uh Thomas Krooks and Ryan Ruth, he's like I've been told that they're lone wolves and there's really nothing else to the story and I guess I'll believe them. And that tells you that Bonino and the new FBI didn't even investigate this case themselves. Uh they kind of just took, you know, the findings from the previous administration, which is just absolutely mind-boggling. And you know, we can get
33:56into why that might be. It's pure speculation, but uh the facts are the facts. And you know, Bonino is being pretty disingenuous when he say no, Trump was satisfied. In fact, it doesn't seem like they really looked into this at all. Yeah, Bonino being disingenuous.
34:11That's shocking, Ken. I can't imagine that. Um, but yes, and I think what is most fascinating to me, and yes, I think it's fascinating that conservative media is quiet and all of that stuff, but Trump himself doesn't talk about it and he's so bombastic and he's so arrogant and like he loves the attention. So, you would think that this would be something that he would you brag about. Oh, they tried to kill me, they couldn't kill me, you know, all the, you know, all of the things that you would see from Trump.
34:36And he is completely silent on the issue. and as you just said, seemingly has been pacified by whatever Bonino sold him, which really would have had to have come from the Biden DOJ investigation of what was taking place because Bonino didn't take over in time to do a really thorough investigation.
34:52Why do you think Trump is silent on this issue? Because that's what I find the most fascinating really.
34:57>> Yeah, and that's the question that I kind of think about day and night. Um, so he's gotten so quiet that a lot of people have started speculating, well, maybe he was in on it himself. And I tell you from, you know, investigating this every day for almost two years. I don't think that's the case.
35:14>> You know, I I've yet to really encounter a coherent theory for how he could have staged it. Most people say, uh, two things. They point to the ear, which had didn't scar. Uh but if a bullet grazes the skin without actually cutting through the cartilage, it's going to produce a lot of blood uh without leaving a scar. And the second thing people say is, "Well, he's so quiet about it because he doesn't want to draw attention to it." Uh but that's not really the case. I mean, he's got like a picture of him holding up the fist uh in the aftermath in the White House, and you know, when has a lie ever stopped
35:51Trump from being quiet about something?
35:53I mean, he's still talking about having the biggest crowds and all this. Like, you know, something not being true does not stop Trump from talking about it.
36:02>> Yeah.
36:02>> Um, you know, the bullets were real, >> people were killed there, the bodies are real. And one of my favorite pieces of evidence that I found in my investigation was that um in the aftermath when he's being shuffled off stage and taken to the hospital, his personal physician was actually left behind at the rally and he had to be uh examined by local doctors at the Butler Hospital. And in fact, they took one of those local doctors on Trump Force One to the next stop in New Jersey. they just left his personal physician behind.
36:38Um, so that tells me that this wasn't a planned event that if this was some sort of staged thing, he would have kept a personal physician right by him. They would have gone to the hospital. They wouldn't have let any of the locals look at his ear. But that wasn't the case.
36:54Uh, it brings us back. So, why is he being so quiet about it? And again, if you look at the timeline, he initially says late last March that, well, you know, Bonino Cash, they tell me that there's nothing to this. I guess I'll believe them. But as Trump does, he has these these brief flashes of honesty.
37:13So, in April 2025, he's talking to a reporter and he's like, "Well, you know what? It hasn't really been explained to me satisfactorily." and you know Krooks's family they've hired this uh white shoe law firm and how do they afford like somebody IBM would hire and why you know Roose was in Ukraine etc etc and then but that then a week later he again flip-flops and he says well I'm going to keep it to myself so it seems to me like he was raising questions and somebody might have even told him to shut up. So, I don't know if they stumbled on some sort of uh scandal like crooks have been monitored by the FBI.
37:51He had been manipulated by undercover agents. That's speculation, but I would tend to lean towards that they're hiding something and it's not it's not him staging it.
38:02>> Yeah. Well, I mean, how many times has there been a situation whether it's the Boston bombing or a mass shooting and a couple weeks after the event, we hear that the suspect was known to the authorities? like it happens all of the time. So, that's certainly a possibility. Now, I will say though, all I know, I don't know what exactly took place. But what I do know is I don't believe the official narrative. And I feel like that is uh where a lot of these conspiracy theories come from is just like a blatant distrust of government sources, the official narrative of any story. And I think that that's really But I think one of the
38:33most and I have the video actually uh well, it's a video. It's one of the and I just wanted to get your take on it because it's one of the things that fuels the conspiracy. Um, let me see if I can find where it's at here. Oh, did I not put it?
38:47But it's the one where um you know, Trump is uh he the the shots have just gone off and he is uh the the Secret Service is surrounding him. Here it is. I've got it. Here we go.
39:06president's been shot.
39:09>> This is very suspicious to me. This is just after the shot.
39:14>> We don't know. Either that or they're covering him.
39:17>> A guy comes down.
39:24>> And ushers photographers to the front of the stage. That seems like a bizarre move, Ken. So, I mean, we we know that there is an active shooter and seemingly somebody from the Trump team goes off to the side and then ushers photographers to the front of the stage with which I think is obviously very strange.
39:45>> Then they continue. They're taking pictures, all of that stuff. No, this the flag is lower. I don't know if the flag is actually lower.
39:52>> Um, looks as if it was. Some people claim that it wasn't. But to me, I think this is what fuels a lot of the conspiracy theories is if the president of the United States has just been shot at. It seems like a weird um it seems like weird behavior from the Secret Service to then just stand there on the stage and allow him to stand up, put his fist in the air, yell fight, fight three times before they bother whisking him off. And I think that that's where a lot of these conspiracy-minded people um are kind and the cameramen being ushered to the front. All of that is very strange.
40:23do like what is your take on that situation because I feel like a lot of um the conspiracy-minded people really latched on to that sequence of events right there.
40:32>> Yeah. First of all, you mentioned the flag. It it's not lowered into place.
40:36There's a million different camera angles show it. It was just blowing in the wind and then the wind stops and it just kind of flutters down. Uh that's you know the caption says that they're escorting the photographers but again it the guy was actually making sure that they're not interfering or in the way.
40:55Um there one of one of those photographers was with the Washington Post and he was wearing metagasses that were live streaming at the time and that live stream footage from his Meta glasses is still out there and you know he's moving on his own and it's like the guy is it's a campaign guy not Secret Service. He's just making sure uh they're not getting too close. Uh a good debunk of this video um comes from the guy who took the footage is that bricksuit guy. He's the guy dressed in a brick suit, always goes to the Trump rally. Well, he shot that video and I know he's a Trump sicko fan. He's also
41:32super pro-Israel. So people might discredit him just based off of his political views, but if you look at his analysis, he really de debunks it pretty thoroughly. And you know, I would ask uh people who think these photographers were in on it. Well, it's like if they're in on it, then why would the mainstream media have memoryhold this story within like five days? It doesn't make sense that they they would stage this event for propaganda purposes but then not juice the propaganda for all it's worth.
42:06>> Yeah.
42:06>> Um just a couple more points on the shooting be being authentic. Like there's pretty good audio evidence. Like there was a cop car pulled next to the AGR building that was used by the shooter. Uh the dash cam is running and you can hear eight discrete shots all coming from the building. And then there's another camera by the stage where you hear the same shots. And somebody uh did an analysis where every single one of those shots is it's timed.
42:34The intervals are the exact same from when you hear it by the building on the dash cam to when you hear it with the microphone by the stage, which tells you that all eight shots came from the same uh from the same spot. So there there's a a lot of evidence that will tell you that if you look into this that it it was an authentic event.
42:56>> Yeah. And I like I agree with that part and I just think that it's um that's why it's great to pull these things up, talk about it and you've done extensive investigation on it. So I think it's good to have those conversations. Let's talk a little bit now about what actually did happen because there were just a plethora of security failures. I mean just one right after the other and it really just starts from I mean really the just the start of the event like there it seeming it seems as if the Secret Service were just completely inept. Um I don't really know if it's if it's failure, if it's incompetence. I
43:29don't really know how you would describe it. Um, but there were just so many things and you've talked about this on in numerous of the uh interviews that you've done, but can you just lay out a few of those things for people who are listening right now um of of the security breaches, security failures that took place that I mean because this is it's I think this is another reason why people um are so suspicious about this because it seems crazy to even imagine that this kid could somehow get into this event carrying a weapon, climb up onto a roof, get himself set up, and then manage to get off eight shots at
44:01the president of the United States. Um but that is what seemingly happened and it really it boils down to the security failures.
44:09>> Yeah. And people have a right to be suspicious about this for sure because I do think at the very least it's criminal negligence and it could be something more nefarious. I mean let's start with the fact that >> the alleged shooter crooks he gets there in the morning, cases out the place, goes home back 45 minutes away near Pittsburgh. uh picks up his rifle from his dad and his father would later tell the police that oh my son the last month of his life he was having a real mental breakdown but the father admitted to giving the rifle to the son he's like oh I thought he was going to the shooting
44:46range but it's like well if you think your son's having a mental breakdown why did you give him the rifle so that's you know that has nothing to do with the security failures in themselves but that's like a major question that really hasn't been answered Uh, Krooks gets the rifle. He comes back to the site. He flies a drone for about 10 minutes from like 3:50 p.m. to 4:01 p.m. And then the Secret Services drone detection equipment, which had been broken all morning and early afternoon, it suddenly comes online at like 4:20 p.m.
45:18Just over 15 minutes after Crooks flew the drone, they finally get their detection equipment up and running, which I guess you could call that an unfortunate coincidence, but it's just one of a series that would occur over the next two hours until uh the shooting. Uh local law enforcement, it seems like they did their best. They spotted him just after 5:00 with a rangefinder. This message gets passed to the Secret Service command center, but they never put this information out over the Secret Service radios. Like they send one or two agents to supposedly go look, but they don't blast it over the
45:54entire comm system, which is pretty inexplicable.
45:58Uh Trump takes the stage at 6:00 p.m.
46:02and Krooks is spotted again. Uh a local cop inside the AGR building, a local sniper sees him. uh Crooks takes off running and they think he's going all the way around the building, but in fact he goes into an al cove and climbs up the roof. So while all the local cops are looking at the north side of the building, he's already on top of the roof presumably assembling his rifle. Um again, they spot him at about 6:05 p.m.
46:31which is 6 minutes before the shooting on the roof. This again gets passed to the Secret Service, but they don't put it out over the radios. And by now, Trump is on the stage. If they put it out of over the radios, they could have um, you know, pulled Trump off of the stage. Um, finally 6:10 p.m., a local cop uh, tries to climb the roof. He has a partner boost him up. He looks over the rooftop, sees Krooks with the rifle.
46:59Krooks points the rifle at the local cop. He drops down and then says, "Hey, the guy on the roof has a gun." And now the local command center leader deploys the SWAT team to respond. But the Secret Service is still doing absolutely nothing. And then the shooting happens, which to me is the granddaddy of them all when it comes to the scandals because a lot of people they'll remember like, "Oh, the slope roof excuse. the reason he was up there in the first place is because the Secret Service said they didn't post snipers there because the roof was too sloped, which of course was a ridiculous excuse. But what they
47:39don't realize is that the Secret Service didn't even respond to the shooting. It was actually a local cop on the ground who after Crooks gets off eight shots in the first 5 seconds, a local cop from the ground returns fire, disables him, and then there's 10 whole more seconds before the Secret Service sniper puts that final bullet into Crooks. So, I think that's the real scandal there, that the Secret Service sniper took 15 whole seconds to respond and didn't respond even 10 seconds after all the shooting had stopped before they finally shoot, which raises questions to me like were they given an order to stand down.
48:18I don't know. It's unclear.
48:20>> Yeah. And I think that that's why there are so many people who are asking questions and why these conspiracy theories sort of build because there is so much I mean just nonsensical things that took place. And I that's what I think is super fascinating. Um I mean there's the whole story that he went and purchased the ladder prior to the event thinking he was going to need a ladder.
48:38I know that you explained in the book that you think um and again this is really just speculation just to be clear, but he went and bought a ladder thinking he would need that to get onto the roof, but then you think that he likely went and cased the place early um and realized that he could just use an air conditioning unit to climb up to the roof. Um but again, the idea that this kid could get into this event with a weapon and get past Secret Service and all of that stuff, it seems unfathomable. Um, but it really just seems like a a just one thing after another, like a cascading event of failures that really took place. And the
49:10idea that it took so long, how many seconds from first shot until the shooter was actually taken out by And again, you said initially it was a local cop that shot him or shot at him. Did the local cop hit him or do you know?
49:24>> Well, it depends on who you ask. If you ask the feds, they'll say, "No, the local cop didn't do anything. the Secret Service sniper is the real hero to this story. But reason would dictate that the local cop shot had to have done something because after the local cop shot, you have 10 seconds of dead air.
49:44So why did Crook stop shooting if you know he wasn't hit by the local cop? Uh what probably happened is the local cop's bullet went kind of in between the cheek and where he had the butt of his rifle because if you look at pictures of the rifle, the buttstock is kind of shattered. Um but to this day, the FBI says that the bullet didn't do anything.
50:05Uh same with the medical examiner. And in fact, that leads to another controversy. Uh the body's like sent for an autopsy and then they release it for cremation. Uh we got X-ray photos of the body and there's still fragments in the shoulder and those fragments would probably have been from the local cop, but they've uh they cremated the body with evidence still inside. I mean, it's just totally unconscionable.
50:31>> Yeah, that's another crazy aspect of this. The body was released for cremation incredibly fast, I feel like.
50:36I mean, I don't know what protocol is for something like that, but it feels like when there is an assassination attempt against a sitting president that you want to preserve evidence for as long as you know you need to to perform a thorough investigation. And it doesn't really feel, and again, that's why these conspiracy theories breed because it doesn't feel like that was really done, that there wasn't really um a thorough investigation. And in fact, we don't even really know much about this kid. he seemingly has, which is bizarre to me, this young kid had really no online footprint, had no social media presence
51:08really to speak of, which I think is very bizarre. Um, but I I'd also heard you mention that he was um, you know, by all accounts, by people that knew him, like this upstanding kid, like this really good kid, got good grades, was like a really So, I think all of these things compounded when people are examining these situations. That's what causes these conspiracy theories to breed because a we don't trust our government and the the institutions that feed us this information. So already, at least for me, my starting position for all of these things is they're lying and then I go from there. You know what I
51:39mean? Like that's kind of my jumping off point. So, um, but then you add on to that all of these things that just seemingly do not make sense. And I feel like that's where we get, you know, all of these things that people start to, um, you know, discuss. And I think those conversations are fair. I think it's totally fair and justified to be skeptical and to ask these questions and to ponder, is Trump in on it? Was Trump in on it? Because it did help him. I mean, if we're being very honest, it did help him. It helped to get him elected.
52:04It helped to, you know, uh get he had some legal troubles going on at the time. It helped to really um uh pave some things over for him, which I think is a fair thing to point out. Um, and also I think another really uh weird thing to me is a lot of people involved in this situation were promoted.
52:24[laughter] Like I I would be this is a guy who's famous for saying you're fired and then there's an attempt on his life and the people who are responsible for that situation end up promoted. Talk about that a little bit because that's also a very strange thing that I think really sticks in people's head as being inexplainable. Yeah, the the head of his detail that day, Sean Cerran, he's the guy who in the picture of Trump raising his fist, he's the Secret Service agent in like the Ray-B bands, um you know, looking straight ahead with Trump. Uh that guy is now the director of the entire Secret Service. That's crazy.
52:59>> Yeah, it's it's absolutely crazy. I mean, at the very least, we can say that these agencies have like built-in incentivized failure where if something like this happens, they get bigger budgets, more agents, and the people involved get promotions. Um, I've heard via other reporting that Curran uh is kind of tight with Susie Wilds, which is a whole another uh can of worms. And that's kind of she's currently >> helping him block Inspector General's investigations into, you know, some of the failures that happened in Butler, which is really troubling. And I guess um kind of transitioning to another
53:38case. This Curran guy was kind of working with Wilds to I would almost si argue sigh up Trump late in his campaign after the second attempt. Uh Curran and Wilds, they tell Trump that they've the Secret Service has gotten intelligence that the Iranians have smuggled weapons, smuggled missiles into the country and that they're going to try to shoot down his plane, which of course is just totally absurd. We've got no witnesses to this, no documentation. There were no arrests. If this were true, the war would have started a lot sooner. But in any event, they put Trump and Susie Wilds on Steve Whit's plane and he was
54:22flying around covertly the last two months of his campaign while the rest of his staff continued to go on Trump Force One and Trump Force One was almost used as a decoy because that's if this was a true plot, that's what they would have shot down. So, it's not only Trump getting bad information about his own cases, like they're literally like running scops on him. It's it's pretty bizarre.
54:45>> Yeah. And I mean completely unsurprising and in your interview with Tucker I know that he that's something that he really clinged on to and uh you know the idea that because and I think it's a fair statement to make that this seemingly did change Trump um in various different ways but I mean he went from uh holding or at least professing a certain uh certain beliefs or policy positions in terms of like foreign policy and things like that and then became like the biggest neocon of neocons and you could argue that he's always been a neocon.
55:19You could argue that he really doesn't have any policy positions that he just does whatever because that's to me that's Trump Trump doesn't have any policy positions. Trump just does whatever is like most convenient and politically advantageous to him at the time. He does whatever he's kind of told to do. Um I don't really think he has any like strongly held beliefs. Um but certainly it did change the rhetoric and uh you know the the way that he was moving. I want to talk to you um also a little bit because so in addition to Trump, three other people were shot. I know one of them uh wrote the forward
55:49for your book. Um and obviously there was the man who was killed who was a firefighter. Um talk a little bit about those three people. Um and and and because obviously those people who think that it was completely fake and all of that stuff, I mean a man was killed. So that's it's a kind of a difficult argument to make. You could make the argument that maybe it was false flag and that Trump was never meant to get shot and that these were just collateral damage in, you know, selling the the the scene. Um, but three people were in fact shot. Correct.
56:20>> Yeah. The guy that wrote the forward for my book, James Copenhaver, he was actually shot twice. The first one went through his arm and he almost didn't realize what was happening. And then another bullet went into his abdomen.
56:32And in fact, the bullet's still there.
56:34It's right by his spine. He's 76 years old. They can't operate on him without risking paralysis or death. So, this is going to be with him uh for the rest of his life. Same with the other victim who survived, David Dutch. His liver was split. Uh they just filed a lawsuit against the government a couple weeks ago because for some reason they couldn't reach a settlement with the government. And so now they're uh they've had to um pursue their claims in court uh for damages. And then of course the most tragic aspect of all is uh Corey Comparator, the firefighter who he was actually filming when he was uh
57:15shot. I think that was like the fifth or sixth bullet uh just killed him on the spot. And you know, by all accounts, this is a really good guy. The kind of guy you trust your life with. uh firefighter, community man. Uh and I know, you know, I work with the documentary crew who interviewed the widow, Helen, and it's just it's just awful. She says like she still wears his clothes. She's still all day she pretends like he's going to come home and then he doesn't. And yeah, just dealing with the pain. And I can tell you all these people involved, they still have questions about uh what happened too. They're not satisfied with
57:53the the answers. In fact, Bonino uh told Helen last May um that he he so Trump takes office and they're not telling Helen anything. They haven't even given her the husband's phone. She finally gets it back uh around May and Bonino visits her and tells her that, oh, we're about to release, you know, the case files soon. And then they never did. So Bonino like literally lied to a widow.
58:21It's it's like disgusting. Yeah, that is pretty gross. But again, completely unsurprising from Dan Bonino. And there were a lot of uh or not a lot, but there was at least one conspiracy theory that I had heard about uh Corey and his wife that they were somehow moved to new seats when they first got there or something like that. You debunked that as well. They were never moved. And as you said, he was in fact filming.
58:42>> Yeah, they they were moved. They were moved like from the common area to the bleachers, but other people were too. In fact, Copenh >> uh yeah, they're just trying to fill those areas. Copenhaver was too.
58:55>> And you know, yeah, I don't know. It's >> It's kind of bizarre to me to suggest that like Cop uh Comparator Tori was the real target. It's like, okay, why wouldn't you just like kill him in a dark alley? like why, you know, why the why do you have to penetrate the Secret Service and do this elaborate multi-layered conspiracy theory to >> do something that you could have easily done on the streets? So, it doesn't just the whole theory just doesn't even withstand logical scrutiny in my opinion.
59:26>> But, you know, >> and it's totally common. I've been to many political rallies. It's totally common for them to move people to um locations that are on television because they want to have those places filled.
59:36They want to have the they'll look for people who are wearing Trump gear or American flag stuff or whatever. Um they like to have those areas behind politicians or around politicians that are going to be televised. All of those places have to be filled. It's totally uh common behavior for a political rally. Um and again like I think that all of these convers and that's why I'm glad you wrote this book because um it is these are conversations that need to be had and again this is a story that has completely disappeared from coverage and conversation. I mean there like you uh gave Tucker Carlson praise for being
60:08one of few people who's still talking about it and kudos to him for doing that. Um I know Jimmy covered it pretty extensively. Um and there's a there's a few people who are having the conversations but it really has just disappeared and these you know Corey's wife Helen deserves answers. She deserves to know what actually happened.
60:25Um and the American people deserve to know what actually happened. We're never going to I mean maybe not never in a 100 years. Yeah. You know there will be a foyer request that'll be granted and we'll learn uh you know exactly what happened or at least part of what happened but it's uh it's we're likely not going to learn in our lifetime. But I am glad that you wrote the book um because it at least gives people an opportunity to examine the evidence for themselves. Um let's talk a little bit about the second assassination attempt.
60:50This one took place at the the golf club uh with Ryan Ruth. So this one's also a little strange like with uh with Crooks.
60:56He had no online presence. We know a little bit more about Ruth, correct?
60:59Like it he seems to have like a little bit more of a public facing uh persona at least. Um but this is also a weird one just in the way that it it took place with the Secret Service being so close, missing him, he gets away. So tell us a little bit about this one.
61:14>> Yeah, this one to me is just as bizarre and suspicious as what happened in Butler. Uh September 15th, Trump is golfing on the fifth hole of his Palm Beach course. The Secret Service is doing an advance to the next hole. An agent spots Ryan Ruth hiding in the bushes. And at first he thinks it's a homeless guy until he realizes that this Ruth character is pointing a SKS rifle straight at the agent. So this is like from five or 10 feet away. He opens fire, shoots five times at Ruth, misses all five times. Ruth runs away and he's not caught for um another 45 minutes in another county and he might have gotten
61:55away or at least you know have been on the lamp for an indefinite time period if not for a witness who had taken down his license plate when he s heard shots fired and saw this guy running into an exter and peeling out real quick. So again, another just drastic Secret Service failure. And probably the most suspicious aspect of the crime scene itself is the fact that Ruth had been waiting there for 11 hours, camped out since 2:00 a.m. And that's according to federal and state uh search warrants.
62:31They say his phone started pinging in the area at 2:00 a.m. Well, if you read the final report uh from the House Task Force that investigated this, Trump's golf plans were actually last minute. Uh the Secret Service found out around 2:00 a.m. that he was going to go golfing later that day. So, the Secret Service finds out almost around the same time that Ruth, who had been camping at a nearby truck stop, shows up at the golf course, which raises questions to me about whether there was a security leak.
63:05How did he know when to show up? This is a lastm minute unplanned trip. And how did he know that was the location that was used by like paparazzi photographers to take photos of Trump? you know, that might be something an open secret within the industry, but that's he's living in Hawaii from North Carolina. Like, how did he know that's the good area to hide out at? Um, then there's Ruth himself, which yeah, as you mentioned, we know a lot more about him than we do about crooks. Almost all of it is incredibly suspicious. We're talking about a multiple time serious felon uh who never served prison for any of his felonies.
63:48uh in the mid 2000s he becomes politically radicalized somehow goes to Ukraine and he's uh recruiting foreign fighters, Afghan and Syrian vets. He writes in his own self-published book that his quote best partner was an Israeli guy who I was never able to identify. I've talked to numerous people who knew him over there. Nobody knows who this Israeli is or nobody's telling me. and um his activities get him flagged on at least seven different federal or international law enforcement agencies. He was reported to the FBI, uh CIA, DHS, Customs, Interpool. The State Department opened an investigation into
64:34him for violating arms trafficking regulations. Uh not that he was trafficking in arms, but the importing human fighters is covered by those regulations. So, the State Department has an active investigation as of uh his assassination attempt, and it just raises grave questions about how is this multiple time felon who is recruiting foreign fighters able to operate with impunity while he's on the radar of so many agencies. I mean, it really strains uh credility.
65:06>> Yeah. And that's again that is complete insanity to me to even think that the idea that he was even uh allowed to go to Ukraine because we all know that the CIA is running Ukraine. Like we all know that that's taking place. So surely you cannot get into Ukraine as an American citizen and not be known by the CIA that you are there. and the idea that he was already a multiple felon um and that they already very clearly knew who he was. And the fact that he never really served any jail time and kept getting off for these, you know, various crimes is also crazy to me. And this is something again that we've seen numerous
65:40other times with different things that have taken place. I mean, I I always come back to the Boston bombers because they were known by the authorities. They had I mean, there knew that they were being radicalized. They knew that all of those things. And so, this seems to be a pattern of behavior. this seems to be a p and that's why I think we get all of the the conspiracy-minded people who are asking these questions as well they should be because these are questions that need to be answered um and when you have a situation like this where as you said mainstream media is never going to touch it um for whatever reason um I
66:11think the on the liberal side of the media as you said they don't want to make him a hero they don't want to make Trump a hero so they have to be very careful about um you know covering things like that they don't want to make him look cool or anything but for conservative media to not be touching it either. And then it's, you know, we we we just we never really get any hard questions that are asked. We never get any uh, you know, any definitive answers about any of these things that are valid questions. And that just leaves people to run rampant with conspiracy theories.
66:39And I think that that's um, you know, that's really where we get into trouble [laughter] with this type of stuff. Um but yeah, in as you mentioned, Ryan Ruth was um uh kind of a crazy guy. Um but the idea that Secret Service was within five to 10 feet of of him. And how many times did you say they shot and they missed him? Five times. Is that correct? Five times.
67:01>> Yeah. Five five times point blank range presumably with a rifle because it's the agent on the advance probably carrying a rifle. It's not like a guy he pulls out his pistol which I guess would be more difficult. It >> Yeah.
67:13>> Yeah. That's horribly embarrassing for a Secret Service agent. I wonder if he was also promoted after missing.
67:20>> Uh he did he testified at trial. Uh so yeah, he's still with the agency and he was just given credit. I guess at the very least we can say he didn't hesitate unlike the people at Butler. Although in this case the rifle was pointed at him, not Trump. So maybe he had like a little bit of a self-preservation instinct.
67:38>> Yeah, that's true. That's a good point.
67:40Yeah. So both of these situations um we and I mean the title of your book um you asks why does this matter? What the investigations missed and why does it matter? Why do you think this matters? I mean obviously I think for me I just want the answers. I think the American people deserve the answers but is there a bigger picture that we're missing here? Well, there's a human element to it and then there's the fact of course assassination attempts uh on presidents are huge deals with geopolitical implications which is probably you know for your viewers purposes even if they hate Trump the most important thing is
68:16this these assassination attempts have been used as war propaganda to justify actions against Iran. Uh when they killed Dyatollah earlier this year, Trump said, "Well, I got him before he got me." Pete Hegth said, "Uh, Trump got the last laugh." And that's because non-stop we've had these real these are the conspiracy theories. I think the stuff we've been discussing is legitimate. The conspiracy theory, the tinfoil hat stuff is that Iran was connected to this. And I've got a whole chapter in the book. Um, the chapter is called an FBI plot to kill Trump because as I show all these supposed Iranian
68:58assassination plots against Trump are highly manufactured sting operations.
69:04The most prominent one is this Pakistani guy who was arrested July 12th, 2024, the day before Trump was shot in Butler, which is a really bizarre coincidence.
69:17But when this case was announced a month later, I think a lot of people automatically assume that Willer Ran had to be connected to Butler. Um, but when you look at the details, this is again a really seemingly low IQ guy. They were monitoring him overseas before he even got got into the country. They let him in on purpose in April 2024 under a program that specifically uh cited in the regulations is like you could let somebody in for national security reasons. And we've had reporters uh like John Solomon have had sources say that this was akin to operation fast and furious where like the Obama
69:57administration was allowing illegal gun sales under the opaces of tracking to see where these guns were going. Well, under Biden they were allowing people on the terrorist watch list into the country on purpose to see where they were going. And this is one of those guys. So he gets into the country, they immediately run an informant at him. The informant was an Afghan who worked with the US military as a translator during the Afghanistan war. Uh the informant's driving him around everywhere. Uh this target doesn't even speak English, doesn't have any money. Uh the informant introduces him to two undercover FBI
70:36agents who were posing as hitmen. Uh they take him to a strip club. They supposedly had these discussions about yes, possibly assassinating politicians or doing other things to subvert the US government. And then he tells these undercover people, we'll come to Pakistan this September and we'll give you the real plan. And then he's arrested when he's leaving the country on July 12th and Trump gets shot uh 24 hours later. So, this to me is akin to the phony uh militia plot to kidnap Governor Governor Whitmer in 2020. It's like you've got this dupe. Maybe he had desires to do something, but he didn't
71:18speak English, didn't have any money, didn't have a plan, and was surrounded by feds. And this is the case that's being used by the Zionists as like, oh, smoking gun evidence that Iran tried to kill Trump. It's it's really ridiculous.
71:32So if for no other reason people should be interested in I guess my book and the case at large because it totally debunks this.
71:39>> Yes. And as you said these um you know uh alleged assassination attempts have been used numerous times in numerous countries to justify war and all kinds of other horrendous things. So this is something that people need to be skeptical about and you need to be asking a ton of questions about. And that's why um I mean I know that your book doesn't really have like a smoking gun. this is what happened or whatever, but it does facilitate those conversations and really gives people a chance and an opportunity to look at the evidence for themselves. You've done a great job of, you know, really digging
72:10into the the details of everything over the course of the past couple of years and really nobody else has done it. I mean, I know that I've seen a couple articles here and there, but really nobody else has dug into the details and really looked at these things, um, you know, from start to finish every minute of the event and and really taken a good hard look at Crooks and Ruth and all of these people and all of the players involved. And I think that that's really what people need. I think that if we present evidence to people, um, it really helps to, uh, facilitate those conversations. And those, I mean, these
72:40are conversations that need to be had.
72:41there was an assassinate two assassination attempts that you cover in your book um on a president of the United States and I think that we really need to examine why, who, where, how, all of those things, those questions need to be asked and answered. So um thank you so much for writing the book.
72:56Thanks for coming on. Um again, if you guys want to check out the book, first of all, you can follow Ken uh on Twitter. It's JD_cashlist there on your screen if you want to go check that out. And then you can find the book, I'm sure, Amazon, anywhere you can find all of your books and all of that stuff. Um, so if you do the Amazon thing, feel free. Um, maybe a local bookstore. I don't know if they'll have it, but um, I love local bookstores.
73:19>> Yeah, I I I wish though. Don't It's more gorilla marketing. We're published the Libertarian Institute and then we threw it up on Amazon. But no, you're not going to find it in uh uh maybe local bookstores eventually, but certainly not Barnes & Noble or anything like that, unfortunately. Last night I downloaded it on my Kindle. So if you want to get it on your Kindle, yes, download it on your Kindle. Um uh I tried to read it as fast as I could. I'm a very fast reader.
73:43I didn't get through it all, but I tried to get through as much as I could. Um uh but it's a I mean again really well written and it just really offers a really detailed look at what exactly happened. Um because this is again something that has completely disappeared from uh coverage and conversation. So Ken, thank you so much.
74:01I appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. Um, and we'll talk to you soon.
74:04>> Thank you. I appreciate it. Have a good one.
74:06>> Thank you. You, too.
74:08All right, guys. I think we're going to take a quick break. Uh, and we'll be right back.
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76:04All right. So, listen, if you give me just a second, I need to um just do like a quick intro so that we can split that um interview into two different segments. So, just give me a moment so I can set that up. Hey everybody, welcome to the Jimmy Door Show. I'm your guest host, Misty Winston, and we are joined by journalist Ken Silva. And now I think we're just going to throw it to Steph to read some super chats.
76:25>> Oh my god, I'm reading some super chats, ladies and gentlemen. Here we go. All right, so um couple things. Uh we had a great show on Friday. It was at the Starlight Cabaret. Tons of fun. And I'm sure you've already seen some of the um you've already seen clips that we've uploaded. And somebody was writing, you know, when are the next live shows.
76:49That's what we're working right now. And uh uh we have an upcoming this weekend at Governor's and you go to jimmy.com and click on our link so you get the right price tickets. Click on our link.
77:04And then uh where's Jimmy? Jimmy and Kurt are working on one of Curt's projects this week in Austin. And so today got our great guest host, Misty Winston. Wednesday, we'll have Russ Doar. And then, you know what? Friday, we have to take off. My crew is taking off. And then, um, Monday, we have another guest host. I'll figure that out. And then Wednesday, Jimmy's back.
77:30And then he's going to be on vacation.
77:34Yay.
77:35All right. So, he he did Austin. Uh, all right. So, let me read some of these.
77:41This is from I'm gonna read a couple from the 19th because you were read during the live show. Um, the Vegas Bolab guy, Israeli Ry Solomon had his federal firearms charges dropped by Israeli US judge Sigal Chita who freed PDF file Tom Alexovich. She dropped the charges in the interest of justice. MSAD Harley, we actually covered that story. Uh, pirate said move these thefts and charged them with treason and that had to do with the flip of all the Congress people when they were asked, "Do they put America first over Israel?" They couldn't flipping answer the question. And your response is remove these Fs and charge
78:26them with treason. I agree. Pirate Dor, thank you so much. story. Can we all just agree that everyone's a crackhead?
78:35>> Whoa, Jacob. Erica's story is totally believable. Garland Nixon tuned in. They are baby eating freaks. And that's from Big Herk ass pounder.
78:47Um, UFO, thank you for your generosity.
78:50Where to see the schedule of next live shows like this? Don't want to miss any.
78:54Big Herk as P pounder. I hear you on that one. Uh, August 30th here in beautiful Burbank, California is when you'll see it. All right. Anything we can do? What's What's this little thing?
79:09Oh, my connection's not great. What the flip? Oh, well, we'll see about that. Is it really not good?
79:18Really?
79:20My connection's not good. All right. H I could move. We'll see if I do move. All right. Uh, let's go on. Bill Hicks is smiling down on you with whiskey and sigen. Keep up the hard work, Zephon.
79:36Oh, it's not bad anymore. Thank you, Andrew. Uh, Davey Crotchkick. Thank you, Davey. Crotchkick. Sean B. Thank you so much, Shawn B. Wild for a show to be so solid. Uh, no, no, no. That's an electrical cord.
79:54I'll get you some food in a minute. Come here. Come here. Doggy issues. Thank you. Come on over here. Uh, let's see.
80:01Wild for a show to be so solid, even with co-hosts filling in as great ho guest host. Thank you for that. And Misty, I'm ready for you, doll. Are you ready? What do you think?
80:12>> Ready.
80:14>> Born ready, Steph.
80:16>> All right. Um, okay. So, we have uh again a ton of stuff. This is a jam-packed show. Um, I always struggle with what the heck to cover because there's always a gazillion things going on. I know Jimmy covers a lot of um, foreign policy stuff. So, I was trying to bring in some uh, domestic shenanigans as well. So, um, okay. If you're just tuning in, welcome to the Jimmy Door Show. I am your guest host for today, Misty Winston. Jimmy is off with Kurt um, gallivanting and causing some sort of chaos, I'm sure. Um, uh, please check out jimmydor.com for a link for tickets for all the upcoming shows.
80:49Shows are announced all the time. He's got a couple this weekend. So, make sure you check those out. Um, so here is uh we're going to talk a little bit now.
80:55This is actually kind of a good news story. I know it's weird, right? We don't get a lot of those, but here is a little bit of a good news story. The Supreme Court sides with a Texas man who says it's not a crime for marijuana users to have guns. And this is um long overdue. I mean, it's crazy to me that this was still a thing, but it is still a thing. But the Supreme Court has now uh ruled on this issue. So, the Supreme Court ruled Thursday against a broad federal ban on gun ownership by marijuana users, the latest in a line of firearm cases from a court that has expanded gun rights. The justices
81:28decided unanimously in favor of Ali Daniel Hmani, a Texas man, I'm sorry if I mispronounced that, sir. Uh, a Texas man who argued with a law barring guns from anyone who regularly uses elicit drugs, violates the Second Amendment.
81:41Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote that his opinion narrowly limits the government's power to take guns away from drug users who are not considered dangerous.
81:49Hammani, who was not charged with any other crimes or accused of using the weapon under the influence, is thankful he finally has closure. Lawyer Zachary Nuland said the decision is a loss for President Donald Trump's Republican administration, which had defended the 1968 law despite arguing against other gun restrictions. Its core argument, quote, fails under every measure, end quote. Gorsuch wrote, uh, the law was originally meant to keep guns away from dangerous people, but the millions of people who now use marijuana can't all be characterized that way. Gorsuch wrote, uh, while recreational use is
82:22illegal under federal law, about half of states allow it, and cannabis use for health purposes is widespread. Quote, "Whatever one thinks of these developments, the federal government has not just tolerated them, it helped fuel them," Gorsuch wrote. All of which leaves it awkwardly positioned to suggest that the millions of Americans who now regularly use marijuana are categorically and unusually dangerous.
82:44Uh the law was also used in a case against Hunter Biden, who was convicted in Wilmington, Delaware, of buying a gun while addicted to cocaine in 2018. He was later pardoned by his father, Democratic [laughter] President Joe Biden. Still crazy to me that you can pardon your own son. Uh, someone addicted to an illegal drug could potentially still be pro prosecuted after Thursday's decision. Quote, "We do not address efforts to ban addicts or those presently intoxicated from possessing a firearm." End quote.
83:11Gorsuch wrote prosecutors could charge a marijuana user if they had evidence the person was dangerous. He said, "Recreational use remains illegal on a federal level even after the Trump administration reclassified medical marijuana as a less dangerous drug in April." Um, so this this is kind of funny. gun rights and proh cannabis groups suddenly joined forces. It's weird. Uh the case made for some unusual political alliances. The American Civil Liberties Union and the National Rifle Association supported Herman's case as did cannabis legalization groups such as Normal. Uh on the other side were gun
83:47safety groups including Every Town that usually oppose the administration on Second Amendment issues. The ACLU applauded the ruling, saying that nearly half of Americans have reported using marijuana at some point in their lives.
83:59Quote, "The court has sent a strong message that the government cannot criminalize the conduct of large numbers of people by making categorical and unfounded assumptions about whether they are dangerous," said Cecilia Wang, legal director at the ACLU.
84:12Uh Normal applauded the decision as quote vindication of personal freedom.
84:16Uh and the Second Amendment Foundation called it a major victory for gun owners. The group's small, smart approaches to marijuana, which opposes legalization of the drug condemned it.
84:27Of course, they did. Quote, "While the justices in this case appear to be most concerned with historical battles over Second Amendment rights, public health and safety are the collateral damage in this decision. Gun control groups were more measured, with every town saying the decision still recognizes that quote, "Drugs and guns can make for a dangerous mix." End quote. It is rare to see standalone criminal charges filed against people accused solely of owning guns and using drugs, though they are more often filed against people also accused of other crimes. The opinion is the latest in a series of firearm cases
84:57to reach the Supreme Court since its landmark ruling expanding gun rights in 2022, led to a wave of challenges across the country. Since then, the high court has upheld a law aimed at protecting victims of domestic violence and strict regulations on ghost gun kits, but has struck down a ban on bump stocks and accessory that enables rapid fire. The justices are also considering a second firearm case this term over strict regulations on carrying guns in Hawaii.
85:22So, this is just um something that was put together by I think the Libertarian Party of Washington. It's on the next slide. I'm sorry if I'm wrong. Um but this just gives you like a brief overview of um exactly what the case was, what it entailed. Um so obviously as we just mentioned, the Supreme Court ruled that they cannot automatically prosecute and disarm someone simply for being a marijuana user. This is common freaking sense to me. Um again, people can drink, be known alcoholics, and own guns. I mean, obviously it's illegal to, I think, have a gun, and it it varies probably state to state, but you're not
85:55supposed to be drunk and be carrying a gun, all that stuff. Um, but the idea that that it was still possible that you could lose your right to own a gun simply for smoking weed was crazy to me.
86:08So, this is actually um some good news, I think, um, coming out of the Supreme Court, which is again rare that we ever get any kind of good news. And it was the Libertarian Party of Washington.
86:16Yay. Um so again what it doesn't mean if you look there in the center it does not protect using a gun while intoxicated obviously uh does not prevent the government from disarming people shown to be dangerous obviously and it does not erase every firearm restriction tied to criminal conduct. So basically all this means is that if you are a weed smoker um you are no longer in danger of losing your right to own a weapon simply because you are a weed smoker. Um which should have never been the case to begin with. Um, I would [laughter] I would trust somebody stoned out of their gourd with a gun much faster than
86:54I would somebody who's drunk. Like, not even close. Not even close. It's not even close. So, um, again, a little good news out of the Supreme Court in uh, terms of weed and gun ownership. Um, and I was shocked that half of Americans have said that. I think it's probably more than that. Um, but I think with all of the states starting to pass um the weed laws and things like that for whether it's med medicinal use, recreational use, I know that everybody's got their varying stages of legalization going on. Um, I think it's I'm in Ohio. I think we have medicinal.
87:28I don't think we have I don't care what laws we have, [laughter] but um uh I think we have medicinal. I don't think we have recreational yet. I could be wrong, though. I know it was on the ballot. I haven't really paid much attention because frankly I don't care.
87:40Um uh I'll do what I want. [laughter] Um uh but yeah, this is just a little bit of good news um in terms of gun ownership from the Supreme Court. If you are a weed smoker, you are no longer in danger of automatically losing your right to own a weapon, which is good stuff. So there you have that. Um okay.
88:01Uh I um reached out to a friend of mine to help me since we didn't have any Kurt today. Um Jimmy and Curt are out working on that project together and I hate hosting alone because I feel like all I do is babble [laughter] and just um ramble on and on and I hate the sound of my own voice. Um and I'm sure it gets annoying to listen to me just ramble. Um so I enlisted my friend Kyle Analone um to come in and join me and he is a good friend of mine. He's been on the show before. Um he's been on uh the previous shows that I've hosted on my own many times before. He works with uh the Libertarian Institute, Anti-War.com. He
88:38hosts the Kyle Ansone Show. He also used to host Conflicts of Interest. I'm not sure you've been doing those as of recently. Um but Kyle's fantastic. So Kyle, thank you so much for um joining me to be my plucky sidekick today. I appreciate you.
88:50>> Absolutely, Misty. Always uh anytime I have the opportunity to do a show with you, and it's been too long since we've done one.
88:56>> Yeah, it has been a very long time. Um, so Kyle used to be I hosted um a show on TNT radio for I I did a couple different stints and the first time I hosted um is the first time I ever hosted a radio show and my brilliant self decided to jump in and do a three-hour show 5 days a week, which is insane. I do not recommend doing that. That is crazy work. Um it was uh very stressful. But Kyle very graciously join uh uh agreed to join me every Monday and he was my Monday 3 PM guest. Um and so we've hosted tons of shows together. We've done tons of shows together. We've uh talked about all kinds of stuff. So, uh
89:36I'm very glad that you could join me today. Um so, all right, we're going to jump into some stories, Kyle. So, again, if you're just tuning in, uh welcome to the Jimmy Door Show. I'm your guest host for today, Misty Winston, and I am joined by my pal, Kyle Ansel. And we're going to go over a few stories, uh with you today. So, the one that we're going to jump to next, and this is something that um I feel like is not getting enough attention. We've seen this happening in the UK. Um and listen, tick block is just egregious.
90:04I don't know what that is. Tick block.
90:05Tik Tok. I don't know. It's that's just crazy work. Uh federal court rules Ohio can restrict teen access to social media. Now, obviously, I'm in Ohio, so this is me bringing Ohio news to you and um unashamed to do so because it affects me. However, this is not just happening in Ohio. This is happening all over the place. Um, we've seen it in the UK.
90:26They're starting to uh create these um you have to have an ID to log on. And that's what we're starting to see that now in the United States. So, let's go through this article real quick. So, kids 16 and under may soon be restricted from accessing social media. Oh, you know what? So, you don't have to listen to me. We have a video for this.
90:44Actually, let's just do this. This is a news video. It's basically just them talking about this article. That'll be much better.
90:50>> Media ban for kids is coming to Ohio. A federal court has sided with the state saying that kids younger than 16 can't use social media unless it's okay by their parents. A Pew Research Center poll found 24% of teens said they were online almost constantly. That was 2014.
91:07Fast forward 10 years. That number doubled. There is substantial evidence that social media use can be associated with harms for some teenagers. Columbus Bureau reporter Morgan Trout has been covering this idea since it was first introduced. Joining us now live tonight, Morgan, when will this take effect?
91:26>> Yeah, hi Katie. Well, the attorney general's team is still reviewing this decision, they told me, but it could be enforced as soon as next week, but this is likely to be a long legal battle.
91:38>> YouTube is not a thing in our house because there is just unfettered access to literally anything. Moms like Hillary Jackson have been managing how to keep their kids safe online, which she says has been through trial and error.
91:53>> Technology is evolving at such a rapid rate where even all of the safeguards that currently exist aren't enough.
92:00>> The conservative mom's group activist says she's hypervigilant about her two sons phone and computer usage, but lawmakers have tried to take it a step further. Passed in 2023, a law would have required verifiable parental consent for kids under 16 to access social media.
92:17>> Work together to control this technology to better protect all of our children.
92:23>> But for years, those regulations have been blocked. Net Choice, which represents companies like YouTube and Meta, sued, saying it violated the First Amendment. A federal judge stopped the law. And previously, Meta told us that they added specific safety features for kids. default accounts for teens 18 and under with built-in protections, private by default, messaging restrictions.
92:46>> But in a 71page ruling, two of three appella judges agreed with the state allowing Ohio to enforce the restrictions.
92:53>> The majority basically said the parental consent requirement is good enough. It may not be perfect, but it's good enough. Legal expert Jonathan Enton explains that the judges did think that the law may burden speech, but not enough to block it since online safety is a valid concern for the state.
93:13>> A fair amount of evidence suggesting that that these kinds of interactive social media sites can be problematic, cause real harm to kids through bullying. Net Choice responded saying in part, "The state is actively rationing online speech and dictating how citizens communicate." And Jackson has mixed feelings, but says that this problem could have been solved if families were more involved.
93:39>> Parents, you got to step up and parent your kids. It is your job to monitor what your kids are doing online, not the government's job.
93:48And this will not be the end of the social media debate as Ned Choice says that they're confident that this will be ruled unconstitutional eventually. Yeah.
93:57See where that goes, Morgan. Other >> Okay, so we're going to stop that there because Kyle, this is crazy to me. Um I don't need the government to decide what my kids can and cannot see. And really, I think what people need to um be mindful of is this. Y'all, do you really think that the Epstein class cares about child safety? Do do you really think that they care about what your kids are seeing online or is this really about making it so that everybody has to present ID to get online because that's really where this is headed right Kyle?
94:28I mean, >> yeah. And look, I I mean, I I'm now a parent. I got a 20 month one month year old and or month old. And let me tell you, like I am terrified that one day I'm going to have to like, you know, navigate her wanting to be on social media and me being absolutely terrified of what she's going to see on the internet. But I definitely don't want the government getting involved in regulating that. As a parent like that, sure, it is going to be a challenge.
94:56like my life is going to be difficult trying to manage that. However, the freedoms of the country are are just so much more important than you know making my life a little bit more convenient as a parent and if everybody has to give their ID to like have an ETS account, I think we're you know heading more towards government control over social media and what we say online.
95:18>> Yes. And that's really what this is about. I mean um and I have two teenage daughters, Kyle, so I can give you a glimpse into your future. It's really stressful. [laughter] It's really freaking stressful. Um, but yeah, I mean, like, listen, um, my oldest is autistic, so I I really don't have to worry too much with her. She has no interest in social media. The only thing she's on the internet for is, um, she likes to watch like old Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and stuff like that. Like, she's not, this is not an issue for her.
95:47But my 15-year-old, on the other hand, is a whole different story. Um, she is like, she uh she has a Tik Tok. She's She hates me cuz she has a Tik Tok account, but I make her keep it private.
95:59She's not allowed to have a public account. She has an Instagram, has to be private. I check her stuff all the time.
96:04She thinks I'm annoying. Um, we talk about the rules of the internet all the time. We talk about how you're not supposed to, you know, give out personal information about where you live, where you go to school, what kind of car your parents drive, any of that stuff. Like, she's very like, we go through this all the time. And that but that's what it is to be a parent, right, Kyle? I don't need the government to step in and monitor what my kids are watching and force me because what really what this is is it's going to force parents, if you want your kids to have access to the internet, parents are going to have to
96:32log on and give their ID, their government ID. And this is just going to snowball and they're just going to continue to uh force the issue. And this is how we get into the digital ID and the social credit score type stuff, guys. This is exactly how we get there.
96:45So, and again, this is not just Ohio. I realize and I am a little biased because I'm bringing you Ohio news and I do that frequently when I'm on the show, but there's also another one in Missouri.
96:54Um, and it's this is how they're going to couch all of this stuff, Kyle. This is how they're going to get parents.
96:58They're going to scare parents. They're going to say, "Oh, we got to protect the kids." And they do this all the time.
97:03They know those emotional buttons to push um to scare you enough to make you willing to then turn over your freedoms.
97:10And that is what they're doing here.
97:11They're they're going to use and what's going to happen is they're going to sneak this kind of stuff into bills that are couched as protecting children and then anybody that votes again it against it they're going to start smearing them as oh do you don't want to protect kids from internet porn or you don't want do you know what I mean? Like that's exactly how they're going to do this stuff.
97:32>> Um >> absolutely.
97:34>> And and the government doesn't give a damn about your children. Like it's never about you or your kids. They they don't they don't care about kids. They blew up 168 of them in Iran and went h.
97:46>> So it's not about children.
97:48>> No, this is the Epstein class, y'all.
97:50You think they care about your kids? No, they do not. Um I do highly recommend following um I was unfamiliar with her until recently when I was researching the story, but she has a lot of really detailed reporting about multiple of these bills. She's got a really long thread where it details several different places where these things are uh taking place. So, this is the one that is out of Missouri and she says that the bill that they're referring to below is part of a package of tech bills voted on as one. And this is how they do it. They smush everything together and then force these people to and it should
98:20be taken issue by issue and voted on. Uh the package includes the Megan Meyer Act which requires every Missouri user to go through an age verification process in order to access social media. The bill is extremely weak on data privacy and has a number of constitutional issues.
98:35Huge thank you to representatives Davis, whe upheld their constitutional oath and voted against this bad bill. Those are three Republicans. Those three Republicans are now being smeared um uh for not protecting kids or whatever it is. Um people need to wake up as wake up to this putting lipstick on a pig crap to pass digital ID mandates. They are selling surveillance as child safety.
98:57And yes, that's exactly what they're doing. Um here's another one from Texas.
99:02Uh this one actually passed. They they're now trying to get it repealed.
99:05Um, so this says the Texas App Store Accountability Act, which is SB 2420 if you're in uh Texas and interested. Uh, yesterday the fifth circuit formally granted a stay pending appeal. This is not good news, but uh the fight is far from over. The fifth circuit used the commercial speech doctrine under under central Hudson Hudson arguing that app store transactions are commercial in nature and even free apps involve a transaction because your data is the payment. This drops the standard from strict scrutiny to intermediate scrutiny, which is much easier a much easier bar to clear for Texas. Um, and
99:38this is this these are the people that want you to have to log on with your government ID just to get onto the internet. This is from uh the hunting and fishing license place. They just leaked three million driver's licenses and passports. They want you to give them more of your information. That these people, they can't keep it safe.
100:00They just accidentally leaked three million driver's license and passports.
100:04But these are the same people that want you to have to identify yourself just to log onto the internet. I mean, it's wild what is happening here. Um, and I did want to play this because this is not new. Let me make sure I have the video up. I don't know if I do.
100:23Um, this is not new. This is something that people have been warning about for a very very very long time. Um, and one of those people that has been warning about it is Whitney Webb. And this is her from 2021.
100:37Uh, and she is warning about this very thing.
100:40>> Partnership against cyber crime want.
100:41They're very open that they want a regulated internet. So essentially what this um public private private partnership at the W is pushing for is for every person's access to the internet to be tied to a digital ID and the goal of that of course if your ID is linked to your internet access intelligence agencies know exactly what media you are consuming uh in terms of you know what you read and also what you post online and that has been the goal for a very very long time. People aren't necessarily going to consent to that unless uh they are made to believe that anonymity and privacy online are dangerous. How exactly can you convince
101:20people that that needs to happen? Well, you have some sort of event where anonymous hackers do something online that causes major disruption globally and then the consent can be manufactured through fear and panic as as is often done. uh that anonymity and privacy needs to be eliminated, that we need to know exactly who is doing what online to prevent a calamity of that scale from ever happening again. And this is the exact solution that these guys have been cooking for a very long time.
101:50>> Again, that is 2021. Whitney Webb, she's been talking about this for years, and this is um right now they're currently using kids. They want you to be afraid because your kids are in danger. Um but as she talked about, there's really no link that they won't go to. Um but really what this amounts to is they just want to um further expand the surveillance state and implement digital IDs. And we're seeing it taking place in the UK. It's now here. Um and this is that's really the end goal, right, Kyle?
102:19Is that they just want to have full control over the internet and full ability to surveil everything that you do and say online, >> right? And look, if there were somebody who are trying to leak like anonymous uh information to the American people, this is something that they could use to prevent that. There would be no more anonymous accounts. Everybody would be able to be unmasked. And you the the data thing, the security cyber security stuff is important, too. if especially if people may don't have like a governmentissued driver's license or state ID and they're using passports. I mean, that's valuable information that
102:54you got to give away to all these companies to store. And we've seen time and time again, all this stuff is constantly getting hacked and leaked.
103:02And uh, you know, there a lot of people pay money every month just to keep some of their information off of the internet. All their private information that's constantly being sold. And this is only going to get worse with this.
103:14And I I don't see it being that them stopping the effort to push through this through. I I think it's going to continue.
103:22>> Yeah, it's only going to get worse. I mean, we're seeing it. Ohio, Missouri, Texas, there those are just three states that I brought stories from. It's happening in states all across the country. Um, and they're definitely not going to give I mean, this is, as Whitney said in that video, again, that's 2021 that she's talking about this. Um, and this has been in the play the plans for a very long time. This has been something that they've been working towards for a very long time. And again, this is one of those things that they they're they're not going to do it overnight. Like, it's not like they're
103:51going to wake up and you're going to be like, "Oh, suddenly you have to give ID." They're they're too smart for that.
103:56They recognize that they have to slowplay this. They have to slow roll this stuff out. They have to prime you for it. They have to make you uh, you know, scared enough to hand over consent. I mean, this is they do it with so many things. Um, and this is just another example of that. They're they're not going it's kind of like um free speech, which is like kind of my thing, my jam. um uh they have not like you didn't wake up and lose the ability to speak. They have been slowly chipping away at your ability to speak over the course of really decades. Um and that's how they do these things is they know
104:28they can't just wake up if they if they did it today if like suddenly during this show they decided to implement that you you have to show an ID to log onto the internet they know that there would be uproar about it. They know that people would fight back against it. But if they create an environment where people are scared and they can, you know, slowly chip away at your um will to fight back against it, that's how that they're going to be successful. And um that's exactly what they're doing here. So this is the kind of crap that we have to fight against. And to Texas's credit, the people in Texas are very um
104:59desperately trying to fight to get their uh that bill repealed. Um I'm going to have to look into how to fight against it here in Ohio. Um, but I highly recommend looking into what your state is doing on this issue. Um, and don't allow yourself to be uh fooled into being afraid and and to allowing them to implement digital ID because that's where this is headed. And I'm not interested. I know nobody that watches this show is interested. We're not interested. No, thank you. Hard pass.
105:28Um, okay. Let's move on to kind of a fun story.
105:33All right. So, if you're just tuning in, welcome to the Jimmy Door Show. I'm your guest host, Misty Winston. I'm joined by my my pal Kyle Ansloone. Um he's uh been very gracious enough to hang out with me today so I don't have to talk all by myself. But let's talk about Laura Loomer, guys.
105:49She's so funny. [laughter] So funny. And if you haven't been paying attention to the back and forth between her and Candace Owens, it's highly entertaining. Candace Owens is calling her Sawface, which it I don't it's just very amusing. But Laura Loomer is now calling for censorship on X because exposing Apac is now considered incitement of violence. Kyle Loomer says anyone who reposts track Apac. If you guys aren't familiar, track Apac is the account that uh looks into political figures, politicians, really anybody. And if you take money from Apac, then they expose you and expose how much money you have taken
106:24from Apac. Um I have my issues with the track Apac page. um they tend to uh um they have in the past supported and endorsed candidates who I don't think that they should be supporting and endorsing based on like voting records and things like that if you are actually for Gaza. Um but that's neither here nor there. Uh that really has nothing to do with this. So she is now saying that anybody who reposts a track APAC account should be permanently banned. Twitter should ban this account and people who repost it. Here this her own words >> lies and propaganda that is spread by people who retweet this insane account
107:01that really should be banned for incitement to violence. Twitter should literally ban this account and ban people who repost this Apac tracker account.
107:10Her own words there. Her own words guys.
107:12This is why this is funny to me. Okay.
107:15This is why this is funny to me. Laura Loomer, alt-right commentator, chains herself to Twitter HQ after being banned, but then she gave up after two hours.
107:26This is so funny to me. She is currently um demanding that anybody that reposts track Apac, who all they do is post um pictures. I should have pulled one up. Uh I'm sure you guys have seen it.
107:39are all red and it's just like the picture of the politician and then on the uh left or the right hand side of the little image it shows how much money that they've taken from Apac. That's it.
107:49That's what they post. She is claiming that that is incitement to violence, Kyle, and saying that anybody who reposts that should be banned from Twitter, which is highly amusing given this article. So, Laura Loomer, a far-right conspiracy theorist and activist, handcuffed herself, by the way, this was in 2018, okay? uh of Twitter's headquarters in New York City on Thursday after she was banned from the platform for hate speech. But the protest ended just over two hours later with little fanfare when Miss Loomer had to ask police officers to help free her from her cuffs. This is such an embarrassing display. Uh the
108:2225-year-old was permanently banned. And I can't believe in 2018 she was only 25.
108:25So what is that? Um that's eight years ago. So she's what? 30? I can't believe she's only 33. Okay, that's neither here nor there. um uh was permanently banned from the social media platform on the 21st of November after she posted a tweet attacking Ilhan Omar, an incoming congresswoman who is Muslim. Miss Loomer's tweet, which accused the politician of being anti-Jewish and supporting Sharia law. At least she's consistent, I guess, uh was deemed by Twitter to have violated the company's rules against hateful conduct. Facebook soon followed suit and has also banned the conspiracy theorist. In response,
108:55Miss Loomer spent her short protest dressed in a sweater which had # stop the bias written on the back. The 25-year-old also wore a yellow star similar to those that Jewish people in Europe were forced to wear in Nazi Germany. Jesus. Uh, Miss Loomer spent part of her time on Thursday shouting at Twitter employees telling them that they worked for an evil company, [snorts] having only attached herself, this is the best part, having only attached herself to one of the two doors, the activist did not fully obstruct the interest and the company's employees seemed largely unconcerned by the protests as they walked past her. They
109:30don't want you guys to know the truth, she told other passers by. The conspiracy theorist alleged that she had been silenced for being a Jewish conservative journalist and that Twitter was upholding Sharia law through the act of banning her. Uh, quote, "We have notified the relevant authorities who are responding." A spokesperson for Twitter said in a statement released during the protest, "Uh, the account holder was suspended for violating our policies. We apply the Twitter rules impartially and not based on ideology despite Miss Loomer's apparent anger.
109:56Her protest, which began at around 3:45 local time, ended at 6:00 p.m.
110:02At that point, Miss Loomer asked police officers who were present to free her by cutting through her handcuffs. The 25-year-old previously made headlines after she disrupted Twitter CEOs Jack Dorsey's uh appearance before Congress in September. As Mr. Dorsey prepared to speak, she launched into a tirade against the tech billionaire. She was drown out. Blah blah blah blah blah.
110:21These are direct quotes from Laura Loomer on censorship, by the way. quote, "Censorship is unamerican and it's egregious that any journalist would advocate for others to be banned for political speech." End quote. And also quote, "Tech giants use hate speech as a term and a reason to ban individuals who they disagree with, but in reality, there is no such thing as hate speech."
110:41End quote. So this is as a free speech activist, this is the bane of my existence because nobody actually has consistent principles when it comes to this issue. She wants free speech for her and she wants to shut everybody that she disagrees with up. And that is pretty par for the course. It's very rare to find people that that does not apply to. But this made me giggle. Laura Loomer is a joke. Kyle, this is ridiculous, right?
111:07>> Yeah. Uh I I mean she's a deeply deeply unwell person and >> we really should all just ignore her like you do the screaming person on you know in Time Square talking about Jesus is coming back and it's time to repent.
111:23>> That that should be everybody's opinion of Laura Loomer. But she has all this influence in the current administration.
111:30She's actually getting people deported, getting uh I think it was probably Laura Loomer that helped to get the State Department at least to start to look into Tree Parsey, the executive vice president of responsible statecraftraft and probably >> uh the most knowledgeable and just wellreasoned and balanced commentator on the Iran issue in this entire country.
111:54Uh you know, she was trying to get him kicked out of the country. So this woman's an absolute lunatic. I remember after she got kicked off of Twitter, there's an interview with her uh with Allet Jones where she's having a full-on meltdown like because she's addicted to ETS and it's been deprived from her and she's explaining how, you know, the dopamine hit she gets from notifications on ETSs has replaced the dopamine she used to get from being a cocaine addict, right? And so like th this woman, you know, needs to be in an institution somewhere where, you know, they they chime a nice bell every 30 seconds and
112:28give her like a sweetheart or something, you know, to make her like happy because I don't know what else society is going to do with her. She's just she's a maniac. And yet she has the era of the president of the United States cuz she's just going to be so complimentary and flattery towards him. I don't think she has any consistent principles. I don't even know how much she really likes the state of Israel. I think she sees uh being Jewish as something she could use to like promote herself and uh you know claim anytime anybody's attacking her that she is some kind of victim of this horrible anti-semitism, but in reality
113:04she she's really just insane.
113:06>> She is absolutely off her rocker and she has 1.9 million followers on Twitter and that's why like as Kyle said, we really should just be ignoring her. like she is about as relevant and as worthwhile to listen to as the bomb on the corner of the street who's like rambling about who knows what and you know not wearing shoes like and I don't mean that in a disparaging way towards homeless people.
113:30I'm just saying that like we should be treating her as like her opinions and her views in the same manner that I mean we just you just keep walking like you just keep but unfortunately she does have a tremendous amount of influence and she does have a tremendous a huge platform and as you just said the ear of the freaking president which as you it it all she does if you just compliment him if you just tell him he's great and he's awesome and he's the best thing that's ever happened then he's all like that's all it takes. That's all it takes with Donald Trump is you just got to flatter the guy and that's what she
114:02does. And now she has the ear of the president and she's hugely influential in conservative spaces and she is insane and it's uh wild to me that um you know anybody takes her seriously. But that's kind of why I wanted to do this story because she's nuts and this just proves it. I mean this is somebody to go to Twitter HQ because you're mad and throw a temper tantrum because you got banned.
114:24And listen, I don't think she should have been banned. I am very much a free speech absolutist. I don't think you should be banned off of Twitter for some that you said at all. Um I defended Alex Jones. I defended Donald Trump. I I'll defend anybody on that issue. Um but to go and throw a temper tantrum and lock yourself or handcuff yourself to one door, which does nothing, this is the most spineless, ridiculous, useless, most ineffective protest I have ever seen in my life. and to only manage to last for two hours. It and again I really don't even think it was about the protest. I think it was it's attention.
115:02She just wants attention and that's really what it amounts to. And um yeah, she's nuts. Um and I really wish that people would just stop talking about her and to her and paying attention to things that she says. Uh, I remember a long time ago, uh, people used to say that about Sarah Palin.
115:22Like, we should just stop talking about her and she'll go away. Guess what?
115:25People stopped talking about her and she went away. Like, when's the last time you heard about Sarah Palin? Like, you you just have to shut that off and stop talking about her and stop feeding her the energy and the attention that she wants because that's really what it's about. However, I will say that watching her go back and forth with Candace Owens has been prime entertainment.
115:47Candace is a really good opponent for Laura Loomer because >> a lot of people when they deal with somebody like Laura take it too seriously and when you do that you actually give right like you know if you got somebody on the street corner yelling about how the United States is about to be split in half. I I I spent some time working in community mental health. I've heard the the ramblings of people with schizophrenia. Um, you know, it's actually a real honor when somebody with schizophrenia tells you like warns you about the end of their earth because they seriously believe it's going to happen. Yeah.
116:23>> But at the same time, if you're like, "Oh my gosh, really?" Like, are you try to like debunk what they're telling you, it actually feeds more into their delusion. The best thing to do is just kind of redirect the conversation and try to talk about something else. And so, uh, with with Loomer, when you buy into it and you get into like the weeds and the muck of what she's saying, you're you're giving her more validation than she actually deserves. When you just dismiss her as soft face, it it it just draws a nice punch and the rest of us could get a good chuckle out of it.
116:55>> Yeah. And listen, I don't always agree with Candace Owens, but I can tell you this. I don't ever want to piss her off because she is vicious. She will come at you, your mom, your grandma, like your dead uncle. She doesn't care. She will come at everybody that you know and love. And um she's great at it. I I love watching it. Like her takedowns are pretty fantastic. Uh highly entertaining. 10 out of 10. Definitely recommend. If you haven't been paying attention to that, um just go read through some of Candace's responses because they are highly entertaining.
117:26Okay, listen. We're going to take a quick break. We're going to switch over to Rumble. So everybody right now, go switch to Rumble. Um uh and we will meet you on the other side.
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