The content is a news article discussing the controversy surrounding Erica Kirk's book and her claims of reading it in its entirety before Charlie Kirk's death. The format is serious journalism, with key figures being Erica Kirk, Megan Kelly, and Sean Hannity. The main topic is whether or not Erica Kirk read the entire book before publication.
0:03Are you taking responsibility or are you Are you taking responsibility or are you giving them a device and saying go down giving them a device and saying go down that rabbit hole? I'm trying to go to that rabbit hole? I'm trying to go to Pilates class. Do you want your kid to Pilates class. Do you want your kid to be a thought leader or an assassin?
0:17be a thought leader or an assassin?
0:17>> What is she talking about? So Candace >> What is she talking about? So Candace Owens just had her 4 and a half hour Owens just had her 4 and a half hour meeting with one Erica Kirk and she says meeting with one Erica Kirk and she says that the temperature has now cooled down that the temperature has now cooled down and she said that the meeting was very and she said that the meeting was very productive. Let's just directly read productive. Let's just directly read what she said. Quote, "Erica and I had what she said. Quote, "Erica and I had an extremely productive 4 and a half an extremely productive 4 and a half
0:36hour meeting that I think we both feel hour meeting that I think we both feel should have taken place a lot earlier should have taken place a lot earlier than it did. We agreed much more than I than it did. We agreed much more than I had anticipated. Of course, we also had anticipated. Of course, we also disagreed on various points and people disagreed on various points and people as well. But most importantly, we were as well. But most importantly, we were able to share intel and clarify intent.
0:49able to share intel and clarify intent.
0:49But the question is, can you actually But the question is, can you actually trust the information Erica Kirk is trust the information Erica Kirk is giving you? For example, Candace posted giving you? For example, Candace posted these Mikey McCoy call logs yesterday, these Mikey McCoy call logs yesterday, but the question is, can we trust it?
1:01but the question is, can we trust it?
1:01Because according to some of these Because according to some of these timestamps, somebody a bunch of people timestamps, somebody a bunch of people are lying, right? It says 12:24, Mikey are lying, right? It says 12:24, Mikey McCoy calls Elizabeth McCoy, that's his McCoy calls Elizabeth McCoy, that's his wife, and will stay on the phone with wife, and will stay on the phone with her for 10 minutes. And at 12:26, Mikey her for 10 minutes. And at 12:26, Mikey McCoy adds Erica to the call. Now, that McCoy adds Erica to the call. Now, that is 3 minutes after Charlie Kirk was shot is 3 minutes after Charlie Kirk was shot
1:21at 12:23. problem is, however you take at 12:23. problem is, however you take it, that information already is it, that information already is contradictory with the New York Times contradictory with the New York Times because the Times reported that Miss because the Times reported that Miss Kirk was sitting in her mother's Kirk was sitting in her mother's hospital room at 11:23 a.m. local hospital room at 11:23 a.m. local Phoenix time, which is 12:23 Utah time Phoenix time, which is 12:23 Utah time when she saw the number of her husband's when she saw the number of her husband's longtime assistant, Mikey McCoy, appear
1:42longtime assistant, Mikey McCoy, appear on her phone. It's a threeminute on her phone. It's a threeminute difference. So, some might say it difference. So, some might say it doesn't really matter. But I'm a firm doesn't really matter. But I'm a firm believer in small lies lead to bigger believer in small lies lead to bigger lies or people who tell small lies have lies or people who tell small lies have the propensity to also tell bigger lies.
1:58the propensity to also tell bigger lies.
1:58And maybe we would let this go except And maybe we would let this go except for the fact that now we have discovered for the fact that now we have discovered or people online have discovered entire or people online have discovered entire history, chapters of Erica Kirk's life history, chapters of Erica Kirk's life that we never knew existed. For example, that we never knew existed. For example, if we go to Wikipedia, it says that if we go to Wikipedia, it says that Erica and Charlie Kirk started dating in Erica and Charlie Kirk started dating in New York City in 2019.
2:18New York City in 2019.
2:18And based on a recent town hall with And based on a recent town hall with Barry Weiss, she said that she was not Barry Weiss, she said that she was not dating anybody in the years prior to dating anybody in the years prior to meeting Charlie.
2:27meeting Charlie.
2:27>> When I lived out here, I was here for 5 >> When I lived out here, I was here for 5 years. I never dated here cuz I saw years. I never dated here cuz I saw vicariously through my roommate how vicariously through my roommate how terrible it was. Somehow getting drinks terrible it was. Somehow getting drinks was the replacement of having coffee and was the replacement of having coffee and breakfast. I personally would rather breakfast. I personally would rather have coffee or brunch with someone than have coffee or brunch with someone than go I just I don't drink. I find it go I just I don't drink. I find it
2:44unproductive. Not because I'm holier unproductive. Not because I'm holier than whatever. I that's not I just don't than whatever. I that's not I just don't operate that way. But I always thought operate that way. But I always thought it was very strange how she would go to it was very strange how she would go to drinks with one guy and then go to drinks with one guy and then go to dinner with another. So it goes twofold dinner with another. So it goes twofold here. So if you're expecting to marry here. So if you're expecting to marry someone that I was blessed with, like a someone that I was blessed with, like a
3:03Charlie, you have to be the type of Charlie, you have to be the type of woman that will attract a Charlie. Are woman that will attract a Charlie. Are you going to church? Are you going to you going to church? Are you going to Bible study? Did you tell your pastor Bible study? Did you tell your pastor that you are ready for the Lord to bring that you are ready for the Lord to bring into your life the man that you've been into your life the man that you've been praying for?
3:17praying for?
3:17>> So, don't drink. Go to church so you can >> So, don't drink. Go to church so you can attract a good man like Charlie Kirk.
3:23attract a good man like Charlie Kirk.
3:23But, um, we don't know for sure if she But, um, we don't know for sure if she wasn't drinking, but she did really wasn't drinking, but she did really enjoy posing with alcoholic beverages.
3:31enjoy posing with alcoholic beverages.
3:31For someone who supposedly was not a fan For someone who supposedly was not a fan of drinking culture, she sure was fine of drinking culture, she sure was fine using it for commercial or financial using it for commercial or financial gain. Here's her with a glass of gain. Here's her with a glass of champagne. It says, "It's Wednesday, so champagne. It says, "It's Wednesday, so treat yourself to a little champagne."
3:45treat yourself to a little champagne."
3:45And did she really not date while she And did she really not date while she lived in New York City? Because based on lived in New York City? Because based on my soothing, she lived in New York from my soothing, she lived in New York from at least about 2016 onwards to when she at least about 2016 onwards to when she married Charlie in 2021. This is an married Charlie in 2021. This is an article I found from Women magazine and article I found from Women magazine and it says, "Amid her physical it says, "Amid her physical transformation, Erica found Bible in 365 transformation, Erica found Bible in 365
4:10in 2016, which evolved into her own in 2016, which evolved into her own clothing brand. She said, quote, I clothing brand. She said, quote, I started Bible in 365 in my New York City started Bible in 365 in my New York City apartment." So, this was 2016 when apartment." So, this was 2016 when confirmed she did live in New York City.
4:23confirmed she did live in New York City.
4:23So, why do I point out this little So, why do I point out this little detail? Well, it's because remember she detail? Well, it's because remember she said that she didn't date anybody in New said that she didn't date anybody in New York City. So presumably between the York City. So presumably between the years of uh 2016 and 2019 when she met years of uh 2016 and 2019 when she met Charlie, she didn't date. Well, here is Charlie, she didn't date. Well, here is a photo that the internet slleuth dug up a photo that the internet slleuth dug up from September of 2017 from September of 2017 with one Cat Phillips. And the caption
4:45with one Cat Phillips. And the caption says, "Yes, we're that couple who gets says, "Yes, we're that couple who gets painting lessons together." And here you painting lessons together." And here you could see Erica France and Cabbat could see Erica France and Cabbat Phillips. I don't know about you, but Phillips. I don't know about you, but that looked like a little bit more than that looked like a little bit more than just a one-off date. It looked like they just a one-off date. It looked like they were an actual couple as the caption were an actual couple as the caption said. People were commenting gorgeous
5:02said. People were commenting gorgeous couple love birds in these posts that couple love birds in these posts that have now since been deleted. So either have now since been deleted. So either they're trying to hide this relationship they're trying to hide this relationship or maybe they just had a really bad or maybe they just had a really bad breakup. I know people tend to sometimes breakup. I know people tend to sometimes delete photos from relationships that delete photos from relationships that they are no longer in. But they are no longer in. But interestingly, Kabat Phillips was interestingly, Kabat Phillips was
5:21actually at one point Charlie Kirk's actually at one point Charlie Kirk's producer and he is now a senior editor producer and he is now a senior editor at the Daily Wire. And just yesterday, at the Daily Wire. And just yesterday, December 16, 2025, he gave a talk about December 16, 2025, he gave a talk about quote, "How to lead like Charlie." You quote, "How to lead like Charlie." You got to understand, I am not from this got to understand, I am not from this world of media. And I think all this world of media. And I think all this kind of incestuity kind of incestuity is weird to me. But the bigger point is,
5:47is weird to me. But the bigger point is, why does Erica have to lie about this?
5:49why does Erica have to lie about this?
5:49Is it just for her to prop up this image Is it just for her to prop up this image that she is a conservative woman, quote that she is a conservative woman, quote unquote? Because you can't hide this unquote? Because you can't hide this kind of stuff. The internet is kind of stuff. The internet is undefeated. So, not only do we now know undefeated. So, not only do we now know that she was dating before Charlie, that she was dating before Charlie, which is fine. It's a totally normal which is fine. It's a totally normal thing to do, but she was also engaged, thing to do, but she was also engaged,
6:08perhaps even married. Luna Bear Studios perhaps even married. Luna Bear Studios posted this on March 16th, 2015.
6:14posted this on March 16th, 2015.
6:14Prepping another couple's gallery for Prepping another couple's gallery for delivery. Erica France and JT Massie.
6:19delivery. Erica France and JT Massie.
6:19You both are amazing humans and I love You both are amazing humans and I love shooting you. So much laughter and love.
6:24shooting you. So much laughter and love.
6:24It was perfection. This is what happens It was perfection. This is what happens when your entire image is propped up by when your entire image is propped up by something that just is not true. If you something that just is not true. If you are not this woman, don't pretend to be are not this woman, don't pretend to be right.
6:39right.
6:39Nobody cares who you were in the past.
6:41Nobody cares who you were in the past.
6:41It's all about who you are now. So, you It's all about who you are now. So, you could say, "Hey, I was this crazy party could say, "Hey, I was this crazy party girl. I dated around a lot. I was even girl. I dated around a lot. I was even engaged, but I have since found my engaged, but I have since found my faith. I've realized a lot of those faith. I've realized a lot of those behaviors were toxic, so I'm changing behaviors were toxic, so I'm changing course and making my life better." That course and making my life better." That is a perfectly good story. I don't is a perfectly good story. I don't
6:57understand why you have to lie. Speaking understand why you have to lie. Speaking of lies, you know how Erica Kirk is of lies, you know how Erica Kirk is going around and promoting Charlie's going around and promoting Charlie's book right now, doing a whole media book right now, doing a whole media tour. Well, once again, she was caught tour. Well, once again, she was caught in another lie.
7:09in another lie.
7:09>> A couple of weeks ago, Erica Kirk went >> A couple of weeks ago, Erica Kirk went on Megan Kelly's show and was talking on Megan Kelly's show and was talking about Charlie Kirk's new book, Stop in about Charlie Kirk's new book, Stop in the Name of God. When Megan Kelly asks the Name of God. When Megan Kelly asks her if she's read the book in its her if she's read the book in its entirety, she says yes. But last night entirety, she says yes. But last night on Sean Hannity, she tells a different on Sean Hannity, she tells a different story. Watch this.
7:29story. Watch this.
7:29>> To read it.
7:30>> To read it.
7:30>> When?
7:31>> When?
7:31>> Yeah. as much as I can driving under the >> Yeah. as much as I can driving under the office or office or >> what I mean. Was it written entire in >> what I mean. Was it written entire in its entirety before Charlie died?
7:38its entirety before Charlie died?
7:38>> Yes, it was.
7:38>> Yes, it was. He finished writing this I >> Yes, it was. He finished writing this I believe in July, June or July of of this believe in July, June or July of of this year.
7:44>> So, you had read it?
7:46>> So, you had read it?
7:46>> Mhm.
7:47>> Mhm.
7:47>> Because I read it again. I read the >> Because I read it again. I read the whole thing, whole thing, >> you know, and >> you know, and >> I'll be honest, I can't read the last >> I'll be honest, I can't read the last few pages. I'm not there yet.
7:55few pages. I'm not there yet.
7:55>> It's just emotionally cuz once this book >> It's just emotionally cuz once this book is done, it's done.
7:58>> Now, I get it. This is something really >> Now, I get it. This is something really small and maybe it doesn't even matter.
8:03small and maybe it doesn't even matter.
8:03It's possible she just didn't bring that It's possible she just didn't bring that detail up to Megan Kelly. But as the detail up to Megan Kelly. But as the saying goes, if you can lie about small saying goes, if you can lie about small things, you can also lie about big things, you can also lie about big things.
8:15things.
8:15>> Mhm. Whoever is careless with the truth >> Mhm. Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with in small matters cannot be trusted with the important matters. Albert Einstein.
8:23the important matters. Albert Einstein.
8:23And tomorrow, Turning Points Amfest And tomorrow, Turning Points Amfest America Fest 2025 America Fest 2025 kicks off December 18th to the 21st. It kicks off December 18th to the 21st. It says, "America's future starts here. The says, "America's future starts here. The biggest conservative movement in the biggest conservative movement in the country." Turning Point's annual America country." Turning Point's annual America Fest Conference will be held December Fest Conference will be held December 18th to the 21st, 2025 at the Phoenix 18th to the 21st, 2025 at the Phoenix Convention Center. This year's event
8:47Convention Center. This year's event will be unlike any other, a powerful will be unlike any other, a powerful celebration in faith, freedom, and the celebration in faith, freedom, and the legacy of their founder, Charlie Kirk.
8:52legacy of their founder, Charlie Kirk.
8:52Charlie's life was a testament to faith, Charlie's life was a testament to faith, courage, and conviction. From his courage, and conviction. From his earliest days, he believed America was earliest days, he believed America was worth fighting for, and he dedicated worth fighting for, and he dedicated every moment of his 31 years to that every moment of his 31 years to that cause. Grounded in God's faith, and cause. Grounded in God's faith, and driven by a calling bigger than himself, driven by a calling bigger than himself, Charlie poured his life into others, Charlie poured his life into others,
9:07raising up a generation bold in faith, raising up a generation bold in faith, steadfast in love, of freedom, and steadfast in love, of freedom, and unafraid to defend this nation. What unafraid to defend this nation. What began as a vision of an 18-year-old in a began as a vision of an 18-year-old in a small garage. What is it with the small garage. What is it with the garages? like things can start in places garages? like things can start in places other than a garage as well. I know it other than a garage as well. I know it sounds cool and all, but anyway, uh in sounds cool and all, but anyway, uh in
9:26Lamont, Illinois grew into one of the Lamont, Illinois grew into one of the most powerful grassroots movements in most powerful grassroots movements in America. Through turning point, Charlie America. Through turning point, Charlie ignited a fire in the hearts of ignited a fire in the hearts of millions. He showed us that truth must millions. He showed us that truth must never be silenced, that courage is never be silenced, that courage is contagious, and that freedom must be contagious, and that freedom must be protected at all costs. I totally agree.
9:43protected at all costs. I totally agree.
9:43Truth must never be silenced, which is a Truth must never be silenced, which is a little bizarre because there's a lot of little bizarre because there's a lot of people out there, including Erica Kirk, people out there, including Erica Kirk, telling people to stop talking. At telling people to stop talking. At America Fest 2025, we gathered to honor America Fest 2025, we gathered to honor Charlie's legacy, to continue the Charlie's legacy, to continue the mission he began, and to celebrate the mission he began, and to celebrate the country he loved. Over four country he loved. Over four unforgettable days, thousands of
10:00unforgettable days, thousands of attendees will hear from the nation's attendees will hear from the nation's top leaders, engage with over 100 top leaders, engage with over 100 partner organizations, and experience partner organizations, and experience world-class training designed to world-class training designed to strengthen their leadership and strengthen their leadership and activism. Well, I got a few questions activism. Well, I got a few questions because remember Charlie had a lot of because remember Charlie had a lot of issues with some of these organizations issues with some of these organizations
10:16with these donors. He was in a major with these donors. He was in a major conflict near the end of his life. So, conflict near the end of his life. So, who are these partner organizations? Who who are these partner organizations? Who are these speakers? Who chose these are these speakers? Who chose these speakers? And which country's interests speakers? And which country's interests do they represent?
10:31do they represent?
10:32>> H does the aesthetics of this show >> H does the aesthetics of this show remind you of anything? Anyone? Maybe remind you of anything? Anyone? Maybe this guy. Okay, so follow this timeline this guy. Okay, so follow this timeline here with me. On August 9th, Yer here with me. On August 9th, Yer Netanyahu, the son of BB Netanyahu, Netanyahu, the son of BB Netanyahu, announces that he's going to be starting announces that he's going to be starting a new podcast with, once again, very a new podcast with, once again, very America first vibes. And then a few days America first vibes. And then a few days
10:53later on August 13th, Harrison Smith later on August 13th, Harrison Smith reports that he was told by someone reports that he was told by someone close to Charlie Kirk that Charlie close to Charlie Kirk that Charlie thinks Israel will kill him if he turns thinks Israel will kill him if he turns against them. And then, of course, we against them. And then, of course, we all know what happened about a month all know what happened about a month later. Tragedy strikes. But check this later. Tragedy strikes. But check this out. Who does Erica Kirk just so happen out. Who does Erica Kirk just so happen
11:10to be standing next to in this Apac to be standing next to in this Apac photo? Yep, none other than Yayer. Yeah, photo? Yep, none other than Yayer. Yeah, probably nothing to see here. I know probably nothing to see here. I know that was just a fun little conspiracy that was just a fun little conspiracy rabbit hole. I'm sure there is really rabbit hole. I'm sure there is really nothing to see there, but the point that nothing to see there, but the point that I was trying to make is that for an I was trying to make is that for an America first organization, America first organization, these guys sure do care a hell of a lot
11:34these guys sure do care a hell of a lot about a certain other foreign country.
11:37about a certain other foreign country.
11:37Charlie and I have always been very Charlie and I have always been very clear on our stance.
11:41clear on our stance.
11:41Israel and Jewish people.
11:44Israel and Jewish people.
11:44It's awful.
11:48Awful. Anti-semitism is Awful. Anti-semitism is what what healing factor comes out of what what healing factor comes out of hating Jewish people? What healing hating Jewish people? What healing factor comes out of hating Christians?
11:59factor comes out of hating Christians?
11:59What healing factor comes out?
12:02What healing factor comes out?
12:02Hate in general. Nothing.
12:05Hate in general. Nothing.
12:05Nothing.
12:08Charlie always would say very clearly, Charlie always would say very clearly, "Jew hate was brainw Israel twice together."
12:21Israel twice together."
12:21And to be able to walk in the place And to be able to walk in the place where our Lord walked where our Lord walked and see the Bible come to life in and see the Bible come to life in Technicolor.
12:32Technicolor.
12:32How could you hate that place?
12:37How could you hate that place?
12:37How could you hate the Jewish people?
12:40How could you hate the Jewish people?
12:40>> The assassination of my husband was >> The assassination of my husband was heavy. But what really upsets me is when heavy. But what really upsets me is when people don't like Israel. Erica, people don't like Israel. Erica, Shabbat, Shalom, Kirk. Okay, that is Shabbat, Shalom, Kirk. Okay, that is obviously a joke. But I think one of the obviously a joke. But I think one of the biggest issues that I've always brought biggest issues that I've always brought up is this conflation of anti-semitism up is this conflation of anti-semitism with anti-ionism. And if you continue to with anti-ionism. And if you continue to
13:00conflate Judaism with Zionism, that in conflate Judaism with Zionism, that in fact is a very dangerous thing. And it fact is a very dangerous thing. And it is what leads to, I think, the true rise is what leads to, I think, the true rise of anti-semitism around the world. But of anti-semitism around the world. But why does Erica even matter? That's why does Erica even matter? That's something that I think may be a question something that I think may be a question that you guys have. Why are we even that you guys have. Why are we even talking about her? Well, I think she talking about her? Well, I think she
13:22matters because she is taking Charlie's matters because she is taking Charlie's place at top the American political place at top the American political empire. the whole thing. It's not just empire. the whole thing. It's not just conservative Americans. It's all conservative Americans. It's all Americans. She literally has her own tab Americans. She literally has her own tab on CBS News. Okay. It's like, yes, on CBS News. Okay. It's like, yes, horrible attack at Bondi Beach. You got horrible attack at Bondi Beach. You got the Brown University shooting that we the Brown University shooting that we
13:41still have no clue who did as of the still have no clue who did as of the time I'm filming this. And we got an time I'm filming this. And we got an Erica Kirk tab. She's essentially being Erica Kirk tab. She's essentially being propped up as America's mom now. So the propped up as America's mom now. So the question that I would like to ask all of question that I would like to ask all of you is would you trust or do you trust you is would you trust or do you trust this person with your life, your this person with your life, your community, your family, your future, community, your family, your future,
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14:41one.
14:41>> So, how do you two ladies know each >> So, how do you two ladies know each other?
14:43other?
14:43>> We were in Miss USA together.
14:44>> We were in Miss USA together.
14:44>> Oh, cool.
14:44>> So, she was Arizona and I was Miss North >> So, she was Arizona and I was Miss North Carolina. It's just it's like genuinely Carolina. It's just it's like genuinely refreshing to have a conversation with refreshing to have a conversation with somebody that like has the same beliefs.
14:53somebody that like has the same beliefs.
14:54You coming in here just like owning it.
14:55You coming in here just like owning it.
14:55I >> appreciate that.
14:56>> appreciate that.
14:56>> I'm really attracted to it. Can I get >> I'm really attracted to it. Can I get your number? Like your number? Like >> how do you text those nails that long?
15:02>> how do you text those nails that long?
15:02>> They're real.
15:03>> They're real.
15:03>> You give like a mean back scratch. Just >> You give like a mean back scratch. Just kidding.
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