0:01our wonderful first lady, Melania Trump, because this was on Thursday, as I said, she decided to come out and give a statement that later her husband denied having any previous knowledge of. I didn't know she was going to talk about it at all.
0:16According to him, whether or not that's true, I don't know, but this was really out of left field. So, we're going to play a little bit of this, react to it, play a little bit of it, react to it.
0:26But, let's roll it, Deef.
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0:52Good afternoon.
0:54The lies linking me with the disgraceful Jeffrey Epstein need to end today.
1:03The individuals lying about me are devoid of ethical standards, humility, and respect.
1:13I do not object to their ignorance, but rather I reject their mean-spirited attempts to defame my reputation.
1:25I've never been friends with Epstein.
1:29Donald and I were invited to the same parties as Epstein from time to time, since overlapping in social circles is common Okay, can you pause it right there real quick?
1:43So, this is something that we've discussed till we're blue in the face on this case. Obviously, all these [ __ ] rich people know each other in New York. They all go to these different places, and one of the huge issues with Epstein, that is unfortunate for some who may not have actually known him on I'm not making a comment about Melania here, I just mean in general, is that if you showed up to a place where there's 250 really rich people and you were invited there and at some point he just took a picture with you and you didn't know who the [ __ ] guy was, people are going to ask you about that forever now. And so,
2:14naturally, you got the [ __ ] first lady of the United States and the president who knew the guy and were in the room, of course people are going to be asking. And to be clear, it appears the relationship was much more than just one picture. Whether or not that means that they were guilty, that's a separate issue that we'll get to and continue to discuss here, cuz obviously, I think when the at least alleged leader of the free world, I don't know if you can say that anymore, but what we call the leader of the free world is attached to, in some way, historically to I don't know, the most well-known [ __ ] Epstein pedophile to
2:49ever live, obviously you got to ask a lot of questions here. We've been asking about people across both ends of the spectrum and we will continue to do that. I'm going to comment on that later, by the way, but let's keep it running.
3:00City and Palm Beach.
3:04To be clear, I never had a relationship with Epstein or his accomplice, Maxwell. Maxwell. My email reply to Maxwell cannot be categorized as anything more than casual correspondence.
3:24My polite reply to her email >> [clears throat] >> doesn't amount to anything more than a trivial note.
3:33A trivial note.
3:34>> not Epstein's friend.
3:37Epstein did not introduce me to Donald Trump.
3:42I met my husband by chance at a New York City party in 1998.
3:49This initial encounter with my husband is documented in a detail in my book, Melania. Okay, can you pause it right there, Deef? The first time Couple things here. You have that email? I'm I'm getting it right now. The of the Ghislaine Maxwell. Okay, so Deef's pulling up this email because she very specifically mentioned this one piece of this one piece of evidence that she heard where that she had seen circulating online where it shows an email that's verified from the files where she goes back and forth with Ghislaine Maxwell in 2002.
4:22And she addresses it, but then writes it off as like, "Oh, this is just passive kind of oh, I talked to you once, so now we emailed or whatever." And to be clear, we we don't have other emails of hers right now with Ghislaine. As far as I know, this is like the only one that's come up.
4:39Maybe some people in the comments can help me there if you found something else. There's a lot of files here.
4:44It should also be noted, once again, for the millionth time, we are missing 3 million files and many of those files, or at least a nice chunk of them, comes from the years 1999 to 2001, where there could be a lot of correspondence with Maxwell. Is the reason I want to pause the video, we'll come back to the video in a second, and the reason I want to pause it and show you this email though is because she is writing it off as trivial and just like casual talk. And I'm going to let you guys be the judge of it. Here's what the email says. "Dear G, {exclamation point} How are we friendly, Ghislaine? How are you? Nice
5:20story about J E, Jeffrey Epstein, in New York Mag. You look great on the picture.
5:26I know you are very busy flying all over the world. How was Palm Beach? I cannot wait to go down. Give me a call when you are back in New York. Have a great time.
5:36Love, Melania."
5:38There are a lot of, you know, [snorts] I I I don't like to read into texts too, too much. Obviously, that's kind of the nature of the game when you're looking through the Epstein files. It to be hypocritical for a second, like it it is what it is because you are seeing correspondence.
5:54This one though is a solo correspondence, so it's like I don't have a ton of like Epstein and Kathy Rumler back and forth to where you're not reading into it. It's kind of exactly what it is. And when I look at that email, she knows her plans, Ghislaine Maxwell's plans. She Melania knows where she's going. She wants her to check back in town in the second place where they know each other. I think she said when she's back in New York or when she's in town in Palm Beach. She's asking her specific questions. I don't really put much into the love, Melania at the end. She might sign that off with every [ __ ] woman
6:28she talks with. But, there is a there is a be to me a beyond cordial relationship there. Like, I And again, I'm not a woman, maybe women can help me out in the comments here, but like I'm not going to write an email in that kind of wording with those types of questions and that kind of like, "Hey, let's get let's get something on the calendar." to someone that I've only talked with for 1 second at [ __ ] hors d'oeuvres at the latest New York City elites bashing [ __ ] party. Mhm. You You You know what I mean? It's not That's a little off to me. She also made the reference specifically though to
7:08meeting her husband, Donald Trump, in 1998, which she referenced her book and how she wrote about that. And I think Deef had that page.
7:18So, if if if he does, we'll we'll pull that up, but like, you know, more on that in a second, cuz there are multiple rumors about who made the actual introduction of Melania to Trump.
7:34And I suspect one of them is right.
7:37I don't know that, but we will go through momentarily what's out there.
7:41Yeah, here's here's the page. This is from chapter five of Melania's autobiography called "Hi, I'm Donald Trump." in quotes. "On Friday night in September 1998, as I settled into the comfort of my New York City apartment after a whirlwind trip to Paris, my phone rang.
7:59It was a friend of mine. Quote, 'My boyfriend is throwing a party at the Kit Kat Club tomorrow night,' she said. 'Please come.
8:08We haven't I It's It's really small, Deef. Sorry.
8:12We haven't even We haven't seen each other in so long. I just got back from Paris, I said. 'Please, it will be fun.
8:20A lot of people will be there. We'll pick you up.'" Okay. So, she doesn't say who the friend is there, at least in this screen grab.
8:27Everything She doesn't go through like it was this person specifically, she just says it was a friend.
8:35Let's continue what she said, Deef, because there's going to be a lot of context on those rumors in a second.
8:45paths with Epstein was in the year 2000 at an event Donald and I attended together.
8:54At the time, I had never met Epstein and had no knowledge of his criminal undertakings.
9:06Numerous fake images and statements about Epstein and me have been circulating on social [clears throat] media for years now.
9:19Be cautious about what you believe.
9:23These images and stories are completely false.
9:29I'm not a witness or a named witness in connection with any of Epstein's crimes.
9:37My name has never appeared in court documents, depositions, victim statements, or FBI in interviews surrounding the Epstein matter.
9:49>> Okay, right there.
9:51Now she's making specific statements that relate to her, what I will say is preemptively denying accusations that are not in any way officially out there.
10:06Before she went on that little part there at the end of that last part we played, she was talking about online rumors. That's one thing. [ __ ] everyone's got an online rumor these days. AI pictures are everywhere. Like if she had to respond to that with a press conference, she'd be doing a press conference 24/7 every single day on all kinds of different issues. So would everyone else.
10:28These statements right here, while she is not in court, she is not under penalty of perjury testifying, she is putting out on the public record very specific claims to her lack of a relationship with Jeffrey Epstein that are almost responding in a way to what I would say are perhaps a letter that was sent to her or a phone call she received with very specific accusations from someone who's not, you know, Tony Bianco 476 on 4chan. It's actually someone that she knows or someone that she's familiar with or people that she is familiar with who have some alleged receipts. And so she is getting out in front of it. I also want
11:15to note Melania doesn't talk publicly a ton.
11:22But you know, I've always felt like she's pretty right here with how she talks. She she doesn't really She's not up, she's not down. She's very calm and collected about it. She's I I've heard in the past reports that she's a little bit sensitive and and self-critical of like her accent and that's something that's like a a little personal to her, but she seems to rock that fairly okay when I see her speak.
11:51In a lot of ways, she's speaking in a similar monotone kind of tone here, but maybe I'm reading into it a little too much. Maybe my body language experts out there can help me out, but a lot of blinking and a lot of heart palpitations going on here. It's the first thing I noticed when I was watching this yesterday. Like there is a there is a nervousness to her that I haven't really seen in the past. Now, if some of you have seen that in some other regular run-of-the-mill speeches, please share those links in the comments and people can check that out for themselves, but I personally I don't know. It looked a little
12:27different to me. Let's keep it going for one sec, Steve.
12:30I have never had any knowledge of Epstein abuse of his victims.
12:38I was never involved in any capacity.
12:42I was not a participant, was never on Epstein's plane, and never visited his private island.
12:52All on record now.
12:53I have never been legally accused or convinced of a crime in connection with Epstein sex trafficking, abuse of minors, and other repulsive behavior.
13:08The false smears about me from mean-spirited and politically motivated individuals and entities looking to cause damage to my good name, >> [snorts] >> to gain financially, and climb politically, must stop.
13:26My attorneys and I have fought these unfounded and baseless lies with success and will continue to maintain my sound reputation without hesitation.
13:38To date, several individuals and companies have been legally obligated to publicly apologize and retract their lies about me, such as Daily Beast, James Carville, and HarperCollins UK.
13:59Now is the time for Congress to act.
14:02Okay, let's pause it there.
14:03>> Epstein is basically in the last 2 minutes, this is where she calls on Congress to let the victims come forward and tell their stories on the record in Congress and, you know, be able to do something that previously they haven't really had the full opportunity to do there.
14:20You heard at the end of that, though, she officially invoked her attorneys and invoked having shut down previously false smears.
14:30I remind you, I don't even know what came of this, but I believe it was Melania who reached out to Andrew Callaghan when Andrew first did the Hunter Biden sit-down and asked him to retract, I don't remember what it was, but asked him to retract or have Hunter Biden retract something under penalty of lawsuit. And then Andrew did a follow-up sit-down with Hunter Biden and read off the entire letter to him and said, "How do you respond to that?" And I think Hunter Biden said something like "Go [ __ ] yourself." Something like that. And I never heard anything more coming of that and she didn't list off Hunter Biden
15:12He's on Channel 5.
15:14>> list. You know, or Channel 5, exactly.
15:17>> Yeah. On that list right there where I believe she said HarperCollins, Daily [snorts] Beast, and James They have always admitted that as well.
18:10But the people want truth here.
18:13And yeah, she gives the nice statement at the at the end about the victims, but that almost feels like an add it on a little add-on to be like, "I'm all for transparency." while trying to say like, "Yo, nothing to see here. Stay away from it."
18:26That has a Streisand effect when you do that. And that's why I joke at the beginning of this episode where it's like, you know, you just take [ __ ] like this with a huge grain of salt. Like what are they really trying to do here?
18:37And I said that I would get to her 1998 meeting with Donald Trump because the two people that are in in many different rumors, and that is what I will call them, rumors that are based on sources who claim to have knowledge of those situations, the two There are There are two people that have been heavily rumored to introduce have introduced Melania Trump to Donald Trump. The first one we'll start with is Jeffrey Epstein, and there needs to be a huge grain of salt on this cuz the person making this claim is someone that's in the Epstein files all over the place named Michael Wolff.
19:20You've heard me talk about Michael Wolff before.
19:22He's an author. He recorded all these people with their permission in 2016, 2017 while he was writing Fire and Fury, which was like the first exposé book of like the first Trump administration. It caused a huge shitstorm. And basically like his main source of all the many sources he had in that book was Steve Bannon, which made no sense to me because Steve Bannon knew that Michael Wolff was like a mainstream left-wing journalist. Yeah.
19:51And yet Steve Bannon, who, regardless of what you think of him, is a very smart guy. Scheming.
19:57Let him record him for hundreds of hours or whatever it was, and then looked like the biggest idiot in the whole book? And let me actually even defend Steve for a second.
20:08Let's say it was 100 hours total. I I don't remember what the total recording was.
20:11There's probably He probably used the [ __ ] 8 hours of those that sounded the worst, and also cut out an extra 9 hours that might have given some context to the 8 hours that would have made it sound at least a little bit better, even if it wasn't good, to write his book. And yet, even after that, Steve Bannon maintained a close relationship with Michael Wolff, so much so that that was a part of the connection. I don't remember the total specifics there, but like there was a three-way connection, pause, between Epstein, Bannon, and Wolff in like the 2018-2019 area after Bannon had left the White
20:48House.
20:49>> [snorts] >> That's interesting. Yeah.
20:54Very. Right? Yeah.
20:55>> So, you need I say that because anything that Michael Wolff says has to be taken with some grain of salt of like, all right, what is the 7D chess here?
21:06The 7D chess here. So, this is This is a tweet that came out with a screenshot from Knoxie love.
21:16>> I believe it was Michael Wolff's book.
21:18>> Oh, yeah.
21:19>> Trying to remember where >> a lot of lot of links here, but >> is Michael Wolff, yep. So, it said, can you just open up the screenshot? Let's just do that. He replied, "Nice guy, got a lot of problems coming up in my opinion with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein." That was Trump talking, and I and I believe that was referring to Clinton. When a Bloomberg reporter asked Mr. Trump what problems he thought Mr. Clinton would face, he replied, "I don't know, but that island was really a cesspool. There's no question about it. Just ask Prince Andrew, he'll tell you about it. The island was an absolute cesspool." He was
21:48talking about Little St. James, which Andrew had first visited back in 1999.
21:52In 2007, Epstein told one author that he had facilitated the relationship between Trump and his future wife, Melania. "The first time Donald Trump had sex" This is Epstein talking, "had sex with Melania was on my plane." Remember how she said in her statement, "I was never on Jeffrey Epstein's plane. I was never on his island." Again, this is just Epstein making claims. Just spec. Pure It is pure spec, and Jeffrey Epstein was also a pure liar.
22:18So, you know, intel guy.
22:20What's true, what's not? You don't know.
22:22But he says, "Little did he know I beat him to the punch a year before when I was at a party of New York's top models by Metropolitan Models, one of the world's top agencies. Things got wild, and by the end of the night, I ended up almost naked in the back of a limo going at it with Melania." That is Jeffrey Epstein claiming that he Melania before Donald [snorts] Trump. To put it lightly.
22:43Like That's a big claim.
22:53That's a big claim.
22:54>> [laughter] >> Could be total [ __ ] from Michael Wolff.
23:00But I told you, anything we find, we're going to put out here.
23:05Regardless of where it is, and y'all are going to decide what you think is real, what's not, and more importantly, what we would like more information on if one day we're able to actually demand that, which we probably won't as a group of people cuz they view us as [ __ ] cattle at the meat market, obviously, when I'm talking about these elites, but that that is what's there. And then also, Dave has this up. I believe this is the original article that Melania No, published April 9th.
23:36So, this is it, but it's an update to a report. If you go down, this is from Daily Beast cuz remember, she mentioned Daily Beast as one of the people that had to retract stuff. Daily Beast on April 9th when Melania comes out with this statement, mentions their recordings obtained exclusively by the Daily Beast and published on the eve of the 2024 election, the convicted sex offender was heard bragging about his close friendship with the president and first lady. And that's really the full If you read this article, that's really like the full context here. It's just talking in in a broad measure. But
24:12W- Wait, which one is this you're pulling up now, Dave? This is the FBI document saying Epstein introduced Melania Right. Okay. So, there is an FBI document as well where they're And this is from 2019, shortly after Epstein's arrest arrest in July 2019, where Who What was the source here, Dave? Can you Can you read it? Yeah, I can read [clears throat] it.
24:36>> Yeah, sure.
24:37So, this was And this was on the justice.gov.
24:40Um link.
24:42But, um redacted put redacted in contact with an agent named Paolo Zampolli, who worked with ID Models. Zampolli was trying to buy Elite Models with Epstein.
24:53Epstein introduced Melania Trump to Donald Trump. Epstein was visiting Zampolli at the agency when they were casting auditions for models. Epstein was looking through portfolios and saw a redacted photograph of her wearing only swim bottoms. Redacted and Zampolli were at a nightclub with Epstein, who was there with a woman who redacted believed was redacted. Redacted took redacted phone number. Mhm. Someone called either a girl or Epstein and invited redacted to dinner. Redacted went to Epstein's residence on 71st Street in Manhattan.
25:28This was the first one-on-one interaction had with Epstein. Epstein made her wait. She heard him playing the piano. Redacted did not recall if she went upstairs. Redacted and Epstein had dinner in the dining room. This room was straight ahead when you walked into his home. Epstein asked redacted what she liked to do.
25:48Redacted told Epstein she liked studying and that she was a good student. They talked about travels and redacted having a model contract in Japan and South Korea. Redacted mentioned that she thought there was a lot of Russian prostitution.
26:02Epstein told her, "That's what I like best."
26:05Redacted recalled Epstein saying something that made her uncomfortable.
26:09Epstein gave redacted a tour of the house, took her to the massage room, and had her lay down, took a vibrating thing, and rubbed it on her. Redacted told her told him to stop. Redacted described the massage room as a small, very dark room on the same floor as the master bedroom. A driver took redacted home, and she remen- remembered being tearful in the car.
26:31The next morning, or a day later, redacted recalled Epstein called her.
26:35Redacted was unsure how everything progressed from there. Epstein may have offered her an English class, which redacted attempt attended. Okay. So, there's a lot going on there.
26:46Someone being taken advantage of, who's also foreign, probably, I'm speculating here, among the Eastern European recruits that Maxwell and Epstein were famous for funneling in through modeling agencies.
27:06What I don't The weird thing about that is that she also mentions Paolo, who is the guy I'm going to bring up now. And then after mentioning Paolo, this modeling agent throws in that Epstein's the one who introduced Melania to Trump. And I don't Can you go back to that part? I don't hear what her evidence was there again?
27:31Did she provide any evidence of how she knew that?
27:35Zampolli was trying to buy Elite Models with Epstein. Epstein was visiting him at the agency when they were casting auditions for models.
27:43But it doesn't say because she says Epstein introduced Melania Trump to Donald Trump. She doesn't And I'm not trying to attack someone who's offering information here, but there's nothing on the record as to how that would have happened. And the reason I say that is because Paolo Zampolli, who is a [ __ ] ex-modeling agent, as I said, longtime friend of Donald Trump, is currently a special envoy to What is it again, Dave?
28:10Like this is this is a problem with Trump. He hires some of these like New York cronies to jobs that they have no [ __ ] qualifications for.
28:19He's the special envoy to something. If you go to his Wikipedia, you can [ __ ] see it. But this is a guy who also had a foreign wife. Nothing wrong with that.
28:34Who did not have all her papers. Yeah, he's a special representative for global partnerships. Whatever the [ __ ] that means. Like like what is a modeling agent doing for the United States government representing as an envoy for global partnerships? Like are we partnering on like finding models to bring to the U- Like what are we doing? Maybe. It's stupid. But that's neither here nor there. This guy had a child with a woman named Amanda Ungaro. Mhm.
29:07>> Am I saying that right, Dave? Yep.
29:09Who Again, we're we're not just going to give you the headline tweets here. We're going to give you all the context cuz it's more than what they were just putting out in these stories. Who was deported.
29:20And she was deported at the request of Paolo Zampolli, meaning he called a senior ICE agent that he knew through his contacts at the at at the administration and said, "The mother of my child has some potential immigration issues. Deport her."
29:40It's not that simple.
29:42It's dirty. It's dirty. There's There's nothing about this that doesn't feel dirty as [ __ ] But when he did that, and this is what did not make a lot of the headlines, Amanda had been arrested for fraud in the United States. Now, that could just be a nasty guy like Paolo finding an opportunity because, you know, his ex-wife, or whatever she was to him at this point, you know, mother of his kid though, who he didn't like, you know, now had a a black eye on her, and so he could take advantage of that to also potentially screw over his kid in in the process because he's selfish about it or or whatever.
30:19But, it's not like he just called up ICE and said, "Hey, my ex-wife who's chilling in her house right now, go get her." "Go get her." It's not that simple. He did do that, but she had been arrested. Now, let's look at the story as to why she was arrested for fraud because you hear fraud and you're like, "Oh my god, she must just be a total scumbag." This one's a little weird though.
30:40So, back in June 2025, she was arrested with a man named João Batista Cunha de Araújo, who was a Brazilian doctor. As far as Dave and I can find, he is a licensed Brazilian doctor. He's not a licensed United States doctor.
31:01>> Yes. And so, what he did, allegedly, and if if so, illegally, in the United States, was he opened up a cosmetic clinic where he would give Botox and lip fillers and and some prescriptions and stuff like that illegally down in Florida, where Amanda worked for him at the office, like managing the business and helping out with the procedures and stuff like that. And because he was not a licensed doctor in the US, this is not legal, obviously, and it's fraudulent. What we can't figure out is why Amanda was arrested and charged with that. We don't have the charging documents here, but that would mean that the government
31:48in arresting her felt that they had proof that she was fully aware that he was not licensed in the United States and that therefore she was also fully aware that what they were doing was illegal according to United States medical codes laws.
32:04It's not just straight for The point being, it's not just straightforward like, you know, she mad cocked a bunch of people or something like that.
32:12You know, she might be someone that was taken along for a ride here with this guy and now just went down after he was revealed. That's possible. Or she was in on it, in which case, you know, that's bad. And by the way, if she does have immigration problems, not someone you want in the country cuz that that would she be a criminal.
32:31It's just very dirty that this guy has the uses his political contacts to have the mother of his child deported.
32:40During a custody battle, too. Yes. And it's particularly I'm coming back [snorts] to Epstein on this. It's particularly damning that this guy is such a close friend of the president and goes so far back with him as a modeling agent in the era of the Epstein files, who may have, allegedly, introduced Melania to Trump.
33:06Now, Melania comes out with the statement on Thursday.
33:12And at 12:51 a.m.
33:15that morning, believe she gave the statement in the afternoon. Maybe it was 12:00, 1:00, 2:00, something like that.
33:22But that morning, Amanda Ungaro, who's now deported, I believe. Right? Like she's out of the country. Yeah.
33:30>> She tweeted out from her official X account, "Hello, Melania. I was around you for 20 years. You knew I was inside ICE, and you know what hurts after all this time? I stayed close to your family, your mother and your father, not because of you, but because of them, at events and everything else. So, shut your mouth when speaking about me because I will expose everything I know." Let's get the second tweet now, Dave.
33:55This is another one that she put out um And those are both the same. Let me just pull this real quick.
34:00>> There's a sec There's a second one I put in the Both the same length though. So, let me just pull >> What? Yeah. I must have deleted the other link. That's my bad.
34:08>> No worries. If I could just pop that up.
34:10>> Pam Bondi one. Go back. Yep.
34:14Uh so, Amanda Ungaro, the day before that, on April 8th, added Pam Bondi, who's no longer the AG. So, I I'm a little confused why she was doing that, but she said, "Are you already aware of the situation? Do you fully understand the extent of the information I possess regarding you and the individuals associated with you? I strongly advise you to consider the seriousness of these matters. Any actions taken against me or attempts to escalate this situation could have significant legal consequences. I expect this to be handled with the appropriate level of responsibility and professionalism moving forward." And she posts pictures
34:51of her, her and her child, and a newspaper link, and there, you know, there there's some sort of like underlying "Listen up, motherfucker." below there.
35:05Now, again, this is a scorned woman, too.
35:10She's had everything taken from her. I don't know if her kid's with her. That That part is unclear.
35:15>> Well, if they if they were in a custody battle and he did this, I assume uh Kids in America. She's not with her kid. She has lost everything. She's angry. She knows that this case is a problem for the White House. She's known these people a long time. She could be making stuff up.
35:34Or she could not.
35:36It's bizarre.
35:38It's messy and it's bizarre.
35:41And so, when you see Melania come out and make such an aggressive preemptive strike like that, you have to ask yourself if this is what it's related to.
35:57And you have to ask yourself also if she's trying to if in that process she's trying to distance herself from the situation because she never, as far as I know, she never specifically says her husband had nothing to do with Epstein. It's all her.
36:17Is that right, Dave? Yeah. Okay.
36:21Again, we're recording this continuously. So, if there's something in there that I missed and you guys found, please put that down below. I always want to say that. We're doing our best around here, but we make mistakes.
36:33So, as far as I know from that statement, it was all about her.
36:37And then Trump makes the claim, "Oh, I didn't know she was going to talk about this."
36:41The timing of it, like all things, is very sus. Mhm.
36:48This This This is a disaster class.
36:50We're going to talk about it in a minute with with the Iran war and what's been going on here. It has been Right now, Trump has completely lost his marbles. There is just objectively no other way to put it. We're going to get to some of the lashing out he's done and the people he's lashed out at that just blows my mind.
37:09You know, and the people he's listening to, which makes no sense. And the reports that are coming out from mainstream sources that usually kind of cover this stuff up about, you know, the implications of how he was pulled into this war and what happened. You know, it's it's all messy. It's all noise. There's people There's rats scattering off the ship right now, but the fact that the war broke out and many of us speculated that the timing was like, "Yo, let's [ __ ] do this to get this story off these Epstein files cuz this [ __ ] isn't going away." Now it's like, "Oh, the Iran shit's so bad are you bringing back
37:46the Epstein files?" Or did Melania just go full-blown, "I don't give a [ __ ] I'm going to protect myself and not go here." Let's pull up the Alex Jones commentary on this, Dave, which I don't know who Alex Jones' sources are here, but it's interesting that a long time Trump confidant and supporter would be saying this. Here was his reaction to multiple things, including what Melania did.
38:13But at the end of the day, I just feel sorry for him and pray that God touch his heart and soul and free him from the demonic influences that he's under. I mean, it's just that simple. This is a nightmare. We know the Democrats and the left are absolutely terrible, but when Trump's calling for wiping out whole civilizations and acting like a supervillain, I have to come out and say I don't support it. It's that simple.
38:33So, again, Trump's own wife came out in an unannounced press conference today and said the Epstein crimes are real and that she wants the victims to be in front of Congress to cover up to him.
38:44That's the opposite of what Trump's saying. Looks to me like she's breaking with Trump because she knows the ship's sinking. This file I've thrown Elon left 8 months ago saying he's in the files, it's a cover-up. I never saw any evidence of it, but he's acting like he's guilty. We know he's protecting Howard Lutnick who said he didn't know Epstein and go to the island, he did.
39:00So, all I can say is this is a terrible day and it's a nightmare for America and the world, but I'm going to tell the truth, report on the facts, no matter what it is.
39:09Yeah, I and you know what?
39:12Kudos to Alex Jones for at least giving a stream of consciousness there. You know, obviously, whenever you look at people who are left or right-wing reporters, there's always bias, there's always political bias and agendas. I always look at it with a huge grain of salt, especially a guy like Alex, but you know, I mean, he called for Trump to be 25th the other day after that tweet about civilization. We'll We'll talk about all that in a minute. But like, Yeah.
39:37That sounds like a little bit of pure spec rather than sourcing what he's saying about Melania. Oh, yeah. That's That's just classic.
39:44>> That sounds like classic Jones kind of pure spec. 100%.
39:48>> Where he doesn't You know, we say pure spec around here when we're just pure specking it.
39:52>> Well, it's just funny that he'll he'll make pure spec that like she's breaking off from him, but then like the next sentence he's like, "I haven't seen any evidence that he could be linked to this stuff, you know?" But I want to say, "Alex, why don't you start specking on that one time, dude?"
40:05>> on that one, too. But >> Spec on that.
40:07>> He did say he's acting like he's guilty, which I've been saying forever. I've been saying it on podcasts forever. You just You have to look at it and be like Like if I brought in any high-powered defense attorney who was willing to talk on this and just rolled tape of Trump talking about this tape about Epstein over the past 9 months. Yeah.
40:29I think I'd be hard-pressed to find an attorney who wouldn't say his behavior is reflective of someone who has something to hide.
40:37Yeah. Just to ask, "Hey, if he was your client, you think he did it?" Yeah. Or Not even just that. Like Like would you be telling him to shut the [ __ ] up?
40:46>> Yeah, a lot.
40:48I think they would all be saying that.
40:50>> Yeah.
40:50>> Very least. Yeah. So we're going to watch the Melania thing.
40:57We're going to see what precipitated that. I I I actually think we will find out through reporting cuz everyone in the world's working on this right now what precipitated her doing that and if it was Amanda Ungaro in particular.
41:10That's what we're speculating based on the tweets we're seeing. Could be more than that.
41:15Or it could be something else entirely.
41:17Again, I also I don't I I don't think I believe that Epstein story about Melania. That's a big That That's a big big claim and it's coming from Michael Wolff and Epstein.
41:32Yeah.
41:35Yeah.
41:36Again, it's fun It's always fun fun >> when the whole house is Elmo [ __ ] fire meme burning. Yeah. But I still got to do my best to be like, you know, where where's my red alarm tingling like, I don't know.
41:54And again, if in the future we see evidence that's like, "Oh, that's true."
41:56I'll tell you. All right. Well, got that one wrong. Or now we know more information." But that's a big big old claim right there. But you heard us allude to it with Alex Jones. There's I I know Dief, you and I were working on that Truth Social story. I want to look I want to look at that more before we actually talk about that.
42:19>> There's There's a There's a there there, though. I'm Yeah, Dief found something interesting Mhm. as it pertains to certain things going on on on Truth Social that is just Let's just say from a window shopping perspective, not exactly what you want to show in the front sales window, right? It just kind of goes against what they're supposed to be all about.
42:41>> Yeah, that's what all That's the very least you can say.
42:43>> But before we actually really like we looked into it for about 20 minutes before we did this.
42:50I want to do a little more >> Yeah. Yeah, I agree.
42:53I agree.
42:54>> just who has control over what we were looking at and everything because it could be something where Sorry blue balls everyone, but it could it could be something where it actually is just a [ __ ] coincidental unknown mistake. So we don't want to run with things like that.
43:11>> Yeah. I'd rather blue balls. Yeah, I'd rather blue balls. But to be continued on that. But you saw the the video of Alex Jones.
43:20There was a statement that Trump put out this week. You don't need to put it up, Dief. I have it right here.
43:24Where Trump talked on Truth Social specifically calling out all different types of personalities, but all from the classically from the Trump wing, you know, of of the party who have helped him in the past and campaigned for him in the past where he seemed to completely break ties with them. Many of you have seen this, but for those who haven't, I'm going to read it. Donald Trump said this. I believe this was on Thursday.
43:52Yeah. He said, "I know why Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones have all been fighting me for years." That's completely false, but okay.
44:00>> [laughter] >> "Especially by the fact that they think it is wonderful for Iran for Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror to have a nuclear weapon. Because they had It's because they have one thing in common, low IQs."
44:12>> [laughter] >> Regardless of what you think of those four people, and I have varying opinions on all four, I can assure you with the utmost confidence >> [laughter] >> not one of them has a low IQ. And not one of them wants Iran to have nukes. I I feel like that's a pretty fair >> like that's a pretty fair statement, [laughter] too.
44:33He said, "They're stupid people. They know it. Their families know it, and everyone else knows it, too. Look at their past. Look at their record. They don't have what it takes, and they never did. They've all been thrown off television, lost their shows, and aren't even invited on TV because no one cares about them. They're nut jobs, troublemakers, and will say anything unnecessary for some free and cheap publicity." Let's also debunk that one.
44:55[laughter] They all have [ __ ] 10 times the audience they ever did on TV because no one watches it except people born before 19 [ __ ] 64.
45:06There's no one left there. Donald, you think people are watching Mark Levin on Saturday?
45:12Mark Levin can't [ __ ] handle Tucker Carlson's sperm sample.
45:18Let alone his view sample. I mean, it's just [ __ ] crazy that he Like who is whispering in his ear? But also think about why they they get kicked off of mainstream television platforms.
45:32It's because of, you know, free speech, things of that. And he's always the one championing them saying like, "Oh, yeah, [ __ ] that. Don't bend the knee to that bullshit." So It's It's crazy. It's just He goes on to call them nut jobs, troublemakers who will say anything for some free and cheap publicity. Now they think they got some clicks because they have third-rate podcasts, but no one's talking about them, and their views are the opposite of MAGA, or I wouldn't have had the won the presidential election in a landslide. By the way, these are the people who won [laughter] you the presidential election, and you're
46:05leaving off a few on the list. But independent media, not TV.
46:09Not TV.
46:11Not the [ __ ] propaganda on TV that's being propagandized to just old people in the population. That is not what won you. The people who watched that were decided to vote for you [ __ ] 40 years ago.
46:22All right. There There There was no like, "Oh, I guess I'll go vote for him." Those are Those are the people that have been told will do either what Fox News or CNN says, depending on which side of the aisle they're on, and are going to do that no matter what. The independent media are where there are variables and where you actually move people, and it's where the people are.
46:41They just gave CNN 100% approval rating of Trump not hand-flailing fools like Tucker Carlson who couldn't even finish college. He was a broken man when he got fired from Fox, and he's never been the same. Perhaps he should see a good psychiatrist. Or Megyn Kelly who nastily asked me the now famous only Rosie O'Donnell question. Or crazy Candace Owens who accuses the highly respected first lady of France of being a man when she is not, and will hopefully win lots of money in the ongoing lawsuit.
47:08Actually, to me Ooh, Candace might actually be able to use that in her lawsuit.
47:13President biasing a jury?
47:15He might have just given her a gift there.
47:18>> [snorts] >> Actually, to me, the first lady of France is a far more beautiful woman than Candace.
47:24In fact, it's not even close.
47:32Okay. Listen, I'll be the first guy to say I can't [ __ ] stand Candace Owens, but man I Listen, I'm a fan Yeah. fan of Candace either. That's been on the record. I kind of stay out of that.
47:44But >> [laughter] >> Yeah, I I don't want to get in trouble here. Dude. Or bankrupt Alex Jones who says some of the dumbest things that is that is true. And lost his entire fortune as he should have for his for his horrendous attack on the families of the Sandy Hook shooting victims ridiculously claiming it was a hoax.
48:03These so-called pundits are losers, and they always will be. Now fake news CNN, the failing New York Times, and all the other radical left news organizations are hailing them and giving them positive press for the first time in their lives. They're not MAGA. They're losers just try to latch on to that try to latch on to MAGA. As president, I could get them on my side anytime I want to, but when they call, I don't return their calls cuz I'm too busy on world and country affairs, and after a few times, they go nasty just like Marjorie Traitor Brown, but I no longer care about that stuff. That's why he's taking
48:33the time to tweet about this, by the way. I only care about doing [snorts] right for our country. MAGA is about winning and strength in not allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons. MAGA is about making America great [laughter] again, and these people have had no idea what to do, but I do because the president of the United States is now the hottest country anywhere because the United States is now the hottest country anywhere in the world, President Donald J. Trump. Donald Trump has an approval rating right now almost as low as Joe Biden. He has completely botched this [snorts] entire run war, which we should
49:01never gotten into. He has listened to the experts like Mark Levin, Lindsey Graham, and Ben Shapiro who all were original never Trumpers.
49:10And he has now completely cast aside all the people who, regardless of what you think about them, have been the people that have actually had his back since the beginning and helped get him elected and helped get all his ideas through because he sold them something that he has now given them the opposite of.
49:24Listen, I'm going to talk about it in a little bit. We watched the last administration gaslight people on the pandemic, gaslight people on censorship, gaslight people on Afghanistan, have disastrous pullouts of places like Afghanistan, get us into endless wars in Ukraine, spend all taxpayer money in Ukraine while Maui people were [ __ ] drowning. Had a guy who was completely not in charge and out to lunch in Joe Biden, not controlling the country at all despite the fact that he was elected. It was sinister, it was wrong, and it was called out for years as it should have been by many people in independent media.
50:00You have to call balls and strikes.
50:03For very different reasons, I am seeing sinister patterns everywhere from this guy in this administration. We all know Donald Trump's always said [ __ ] and he's a fighter, and he punches people publicly. I don't get as worked up about that stuff, but to see him so specifically dig in on this particular issue, where there are American lives at stake, by the way.
50:30I mean, I I I shouldn't have to say that, but we're talking about war, and it's and it's actually as bad as that is, like it's the 10th order effects of this are insane.
50:42And and it was all a mistake, and we're going to talk about some of the evidence that came out there this week about why this never should have [ __ ] happened, but like to watch him try to gaslight people to the extent that he has now consistently done it specifically over the past 7 8 weeks, but I would argue since mid-2025, beginning with the Epstein stuff, is terrible.
51:12And people who supported Trump, and I get why people did. I totally get it.
51:25People who supported him supported him based on what they told him.
51:29And they had seen him in office once.
51:31Obviously, COVID was a whole [ __ ] thing, but before that, it was very chaotic, but the lights were on.
51:38The sun came up.
51:40Foreign policy wasn't the worst thing I've ever seen in my life, you know?
51:44The economy was doing okay.
51:47Like he wasn't the guy that in 2015 they're like, you can't give this guy the nuclear football. They were People were kind of like, all right. Mhm. He's blustery. They got sick of him at the end. Enough people did because of COVID and all that [ __ ] and some of the style, but once they saw how a lot of Americans saw how bad Biden was and how much how sinister that administration was, they were like, you know what? He didn't blow things up the first time around. Now he's saying some nice things on the campaign trail. Some of it he might not be lying about. He proved in the past there were certain things he wasn't
52:19lying about when he got into office, so we'll give him a try.
52:22And he's giving the appearance now and in straight-up action showing that he lied about many things that he put on the [ __ ] campaign trail, not the least of which is this war.
52:34So, to see him gaslight people and tell them that this is what MAGA is, and I'm the cult leader of it, and you have to listen to me, it's like people thought they were getting Jon Snow, and they got Mad King Aerys Targaryen.
52:51I just want to say, could have told you it wasn't going to be Jon Snow. Yeah, [laughter] they they back in November. I could have, too. I'm just I'm I'm talking about the people that pulled the ballot for him right there.
53:02>> You know? And that was the thing.
53:07We could all feel the vibes, especially by 2024, of where that stuff was headed, and then, you know, they came after him.
53:15They tried to imprison this man, and I'll still tell you all the charges that the Justice Department tried to bring against Donald Trump were total [ __ ] You know, they convicted him of a felony, which was [ __ ] He [ __ ] almost got taken out, which it's weird that we haven't had investigation about that. That's a side issue, but at time, almost got [ __ ] taken out.
53:36You know? And you did see over many years the left wing gaslight about certain things of Donald Trump.
53:47It was always in the back of my mind, though, that while Trump would definitely, and he has done this, I will give him this, would definitely correct, say, the online censorship issues that we saw in particular with the last administration, and the border issues, at least make it better, right?
54:16Those things were a net positive to me.
54:19And those are two promises that and if I'm going to be ripping him here about all the lies he's doing, those are two things that as of right now are remarkably better. The border still needs work, but like the bar was low. It's remarkably better than it was. We can certainly argue about the ICE stuff here in America and how some of that's handled, but on the actual border, everything I'm hearing from the guys who know what's going on there, like it's better.
54:43The censorship is a billion times better. I mean, it's like night and day.
54:50And it really was like right when he got elected, not even when he got into office, if I remember correctly. Like you could almost see the shift on Instagram and these and YouTube and these places right after he got elected. Mhm. And those things are net good.
55:05But if they come at the cost of all these other things that to the 10th order effects are going to kill us for years to come, you ask yourself like, well, I guess it's like you know, a shotgun or poison. Like it's but Essentially. Your options are bad.
55:25It's just crazy that you can run tape of Kamala Harris who couldn't put a sentence together >> [snorts] >> saying, you get Trump, you get war with Iran, which you might have gotten it with her, by the way, too. Let's not exonerate that, but you hear that, and it was like, well, that's fear-mongering. Nope.
55:43She got that right. I said that last week, I'll say that again. So, when I see stuff like this, like a statement like that, again, try not to read too much into Trump just being crazy with statements, which he always has, it feels like he has completely just lost the pulse of society. That was the one thing he always had going for him.
56:03He knew where the pulse was. He knew where the attention was. He knew where the puck was going, how to get in front of people, where people were, meet them where they are with the media, and using all the tools at his disposal to be able to put his face in front of people and get a message out that he thought the majority of people would agree with. And now he is doing it to such an opposite effect that on his own echo chamber platform, Truth Social, I don't [clears throat] know if you saw the commentary of commenters on >> No. on that post. They're shredding him.
56:33I don't have it. They're shredding him.
56:35People have been posting that all over Twitter. He is getting shredded by his own people and losing massive massive support. So, it was also obviously another wild week as it pertains to the Iran war, which is what's at the center of all this.
56:57And actually, real quick, before we do that, I got to run to the bathroom, Dief, but we're going to talk about this and kind of the timeline of what happened here and what this could mean for this next week coming up, cuz this is really a [ __ ] day-to-day thing. We'll be right back.
57:14All right, we're back. Dief, you just saw a tweet come through, by the way, just before we get to this. That was a little weird. Yeah, and it was in the Daily Mail, and it was um I know why Melania did that yesterday.
57:25I've seen the evidence. A quote from Mr.
57:28Alan Dershowitz.
57:33Why is he at the middle of everything?
57:35Yeah, why is he injected into every story? He was just getting at that like, yeah, I've looked at this, there's no direct link that's pointing to Melania, but like, why? Like, why is this all happening just so [ __ ] out of the blue? So weird. Yeah, if you're a guy like him who might know something might be totally bullshitting cuz he makes himself the center of the whole [ __ ] story, just don't say anything.
57:56Just don't say anything. Don't it unless you're going to provide actual details, cuz you're just going to piss people off.
58:02Or he got the call.
58:04I mean, he don't have to get a call, bro. He is the call. Like they're like, listen, Daily Mail, throw it at All right, I [clears throat] understand. He is the call. He's the one who got >> He is the phone. That's right. That's right. But before I get into the timeline here, I do feel I I hate absolutely hate having to prequalify things. Because it's really and for most of you out there, you're going to agree with me on this. It's like below our general intelligence level. I shouldn't have to say things just to make sure, you know, the butt after that is qualified to be able to be discussed, but
58:43Iran, bad regime. For me to say this [ __ ] 40 times, I'm sorry, I'm just going to say this again.
58:48It's been reported they killed up to 45,000 of their people in the build-up to this war. I don't even know if that's true. For the sake of argument, let's call it true. They're bad, they always have been. They've been around since 1979. Dief and I went and pulled the stats on this. They are known to be responsible, either directly or through financial inter- intermediaries, Mhm.
59:08for in the ballpark of a thousand United States deaths since 1979, all of which should be condemned, and all of which continue to prove that they are an enemy to the United States interest. That is all a thousand percent true.
59:25I have already had to make the argument to you guys that Joe Kent has pretty eloquently put out there about the decision-making of whether or not to invade a place or cause a war that has a lot of effects that are beyond what your current losses giving keeping the situation at status quo would be.
59:44Which we have done.
59:46Including sacrificing 13 more American lives. Mhm. To that we know of. Yeah. To the effort. Thank you guys for checking out this clip. If you haven't already subscribed, please subscribe and hit the like button on this video. It is a huge, huge help. And if you'd like to check out this clip's full podcast episode, that link is in the description below or right here. And finally, you can follow me on Instagram and X by using the links in my description below.
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