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10:42Hi everybody. Welcome to today's show.
10:44Look at me. Uh we got Mike McCra's on the line. World world's premier voice impressionist. Hi, Mike.
10:50>> Hey, Jimmy Door. How are you doing?
10:52>> I'm doing good. I say we jump right into this. Ready?
10:55>> Hey, this Hey, this is Jimmy. Who's this?
10:58>> Hey, Jimmy. This is JD Vance.
11:01>> Oh, hey.
11:03Wow. Mr. Vice President, >> how how good of you to call? How you doing, >> Jimmy? I'm doing real good. Everything is going very well, I must say. Uh we and by we I mean this administration, you know, we're really banging on all eight cylinders here.
11:19>> Even the war in Iran.
11:22>> Oh, especially the war in Iran.
11:25Watching the president conduct these operations as commander-in-chief has been really amazing. Just every detail of this war or a limited military operation, maybe we're supposed to call it that, has been so carefully calculated and for scene. Uh, it's really just magisterial. Amazing to see Mr. Trump at work doing what he does best.
11:46>> Have you been there at his side this whole time, these past few tent days?
11:52>> Uh, no. Actually, I've been in Hungary.
11:55>> What? Why are you Hungary?
11:58>> Uh, yeah. Uh, President Trump was like, "Hey J D, uh, how about instead of being here in the war room, you travel to Hungary and campaign for President Orban?" And I was like, "Oh, oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh okay okay okay.
12:15So here I am.
12:16>> I see.
12:19>> At first I was like I get it, Mr.
12:21President. Very smart. in case, god forbid, something happened to you, the next in command will be safely far away, so there won't be any disputed succession situation. And then he was like, "No, that has nothing to do with it. Go now." Uh, so I did and I think Mr. Orurban has a pretty good chance in November or whenever they elect Hungarians. I forgot to ask.
12:44>> All right. Uh, all that aside, you think the war is going well? Really?
12:49Is is Trump's brand of brinksmanship working for you?
12:55>> Oh, absolutely. First of all, look at the results. Iran still has uranium. We are now buying oil from Iran. Uh, and Iran has total control of the Straits of Hormones. None of this would have been possible without Donald Trump. But as a Christian to wake up on Easter morning and see his true social post open the straights you maniacs and threatening to end their civilization. I just I read the post to my children as they were opening their Easter baskets and Jimmy I cried a little bit. I'm not afraid to admit.
13:26>> Wow.
13:28>> But part of that was because Usha had to put some weirdass stinky Indian treats in there and ruin the whole thing. Can't we have one day in our house that's white?
13:39What's next? The Easter Bunny has six arms and is standing on one foot.
13:43Anyway, point is we have a ceasefire thanks to President Trump.
13:48>> Uh even though Israel is violating it as we speak, you know that, right?
13:52>> Oh, B.
13:55>> Uh what do you mean b Israel's bombing Lebanon still in violation of the ceasefire?
14:03Oh, you just hush.
14:05>> Mr. Vice President, this seems to be a major problem. Why won't you address it, >> Jimmy? I want to be president someday.
14:14>> Yeah. Meaning what exactly?
14:16>> Meaning next topic, please.
14:18>> All right, fine. Look, talks between the US and Iran are slated to be held in Islamabad starting this Saturday. Do you foresee yourself attending?
14:29>> Oh, absolutely, Jimmy. If you recall, Pakistan specifically indicated that the Iranians would rather speak directly to me personally rather than say Steve Witoff or Jared Kushner. Given that, I'd suspect my presence and involvement would be a safe assumption. And and Jimmy, I look forward to using that role to further peace and resolution of this issue.
14:48>> Well, President Trump just said today that you probably wouldn't be there.
14:54what? Are you serious?
14:56>> Yeah. He said it would probably be Wit Cough and Kushner specifically said not you.
15:02>> That piece of I'm tired of covering for his lying ass.
15:06>> Maybe you should try talking to him.
15:08>> Well, I'm in Hungary, so I can't I can't talk to the president because he decided that instead of being involved in the biggest event of his second term, I should be campaigning in this weird Eastern European country where porn stars come from, >> right?
15:25Meaning the women who will do what normal women won't.
15:27>> Yeah. Yeah. No, I get it.
15:30>> You know what? him. this war.
15:32I'm tired of pretending. I'm going bull moose on this party and this administration. I'm going to let the anti-war MAGA win know wing know that I was opposed to this lunacy from day one and I will break from this administration on this and everything else and quite frankly spill the dirt about the mindnumbing incompetence.
15:50>> Wait, wait, hold hold on. I'm seeing a Chiron on CNN saying that you will be in attendance in Islamabad after all.
16:02>> Oh. Oh, okay. Well, uh, good. Like I said before, uh, really stoked to have this opportunity to work for peace.
16:10>> Uh-huh.
16:12>> And Jimmy, just sort of forget that other stuff I said if you could. I've got jet lag and regular tiredness, too.
16:19Work's been crazy. Uh, there's some Hindu festival calendar thing where Usha can't have sex for a whole year and I'm here in this porn star country. So, that's frustrating. I'm just kind of all over the place saying a lot of stuff I probably shouldn't basically. So, uh Oh, okay. I got to go. Randy and them are here for some reason. Hey, hey, hey.
16:40What's up, guys?
16:47Cliffhanger there. What's going on with that?
17:00>> Got there quick.
17:02>> Ah, that was funny. Hey, you really did get there quick.
17:07flew him out, dude.
17:08>> Yeah.
17:12>> You know, we got to get in as many Cash Patel calls as we can cuz he's getting the axe.
17:17Oh well, dude. dude. Okay. Heard, but imagine how clutch postfiring Cash Patel will be.
17:26>> Yeah. Well, he's definitely Yes.
17:29>> I'm not going anywhere, dude.
17:31>> Okay.
17:33All right. Ready? Ring. Ring. Hello.
17:34This is Jimmy. Who's this?
17:38>> Jimmy, it's Phoebe. Benjamin.
17:41>> Oh, man. Good lord. Why are you calling?
17:43I don't even want to talk to you.
17:46Jimmy, after all these years after all these years of friendship, >> we're not friends.
17:52>> We are We are phone friends. Friends over the phone. That counts. That's a real thing. Besides, who is more relevant to talk to in this moment than me, >> the leader of Israel?
18:03>> I don't know, but somebody. Anybody else?
18:07>> Jimmy, please. There's a war going on.
18:10US and Israel versus Iran. What do you want to hear from Al Pacino about this?
18:16Perhaps Jeff Bridges has more insight into this geopolitical situation than I do. Or evade the very thought.
18:23>> All right, fine. Wh Why are you violating the ceasefire?
18:29>> What do you mean? We are doing no such thing.
18:31>> You are ruining this truce right out of the gate as you always do.
18:36>> What gate? What truce? What is this?
18:39>> Don't play dumb with me. You bombed Lebanon today. killing more civilians in one day than since the beginning of the war.
18:46>> This is war, Jimmy. This is what war looks like. He has started this war >> and we aim to finish it. Israel does not start wars, nor do we target civilians.
18:58>> You're lying through your teeth. All the people you murdered today were civilians.
19:04Well, that is an unfortunate consequence of Lebanon's government not addressing their Hezbollah problem, forcing our hand to take action that unfortunately has claimed the lives of many hundreds of Goyam, I mean civilians.
19:17>> You you you really are scum, aren't you?
19:20You you're violating the terms of the ceasefire just despite you you kill innocent people.
19:28>> Now, hold on a minute. The ceasefire does not cover Israel's defensive actions in Lebanon.
19:33>> Iran seems to think so, so does Pakistan.
19:37>> Well, read the fine print.
19:39>> What?
19:41>> It's a simple legal matter. If people would just read the fine print, the legal language, they would see there are all sorts of loopholes that allows Israel to proceed military however we see fit. We always have our lawyers go over these things with a fine tooth comb. legal language. As I understand it, the this ceasefire is an oral agreement, not a written one.
20:06>> Oh, well, even better then. That makes it much easier. My lawyers assure me that in these oral agreements, there is a prima fascia assumption of fine print legal language that will allow Israel to proceed militarily.
20:18>> You're just going to do whatever you want no matter what, aren't you?
20:22>> Yes.
20:25>> Unbelievable.
20:28But it seems like the least we can do is to provide some sort of flimsy pretext of legal justification before we slaughter Goyam. I mean civilians die in the passive voice.
20:38>> And you don't care if your actions torpedo the ceasefire causing the straight of Hormuz to close again and war to resume.
20:47>> No. But remember, we are your greatest ally, your only ally in the Middle East.
20:53and we stand solidly with our friends, the United States, and always will.
20:58>> Seems to me like a good ally would be our ally in peace as well as in conflict.
21:04>> Well, the legal definition of ally is a little more complicated.
21:08>> Yeah, you know, you know, these phone calls are supposed to be funny. I just get mad when I talk to you. Kind of defeats the purpose.
21:15>> You know what? You're right. I'm sorry.
21:18Let's lighten the mood a little bit. How about a little joke?
21:22>> Okay.
21:24What do you call southern Lebanon a year from now?
21:27>> I don't know. I give up.
21:30>> Northern Israel.
21:31>> All right, BB. That's not even a joke.
21:33That's a threat phrased as a joke.
21:36>> Damn it. I had my lawyers go over that and they assured me it would work here.
21:40Okay, let's try another one. What do you call an anti-semite in America?
21:45>> What?
21:47>> You and everyone who questions Israel.
21:50Get it? Anti-semmites. All of you for shame. That joke is punching up, not down. That counts as joke.
21:57>> Mr. Netanyahu, I'm afraid your future remains in wararm mongering and war crimes, not comedy.
22:06>> Honestly, I'm relieved. I don't know how you people do it. All this putting clips on social media. Who needs it? Well, uh, well, speaking of war calls, uh, so I must attend to that. Also, my kids are FaceTiming me from Miami. I'm guessing they need more money to go clubbing kids, you know. Anyway, I'll call you later and let you know how things are going.
22:28>> Please never call the show again.
22:31>> How anti-semitic of you. I cannot believe the anti-semitism from you goyam. I mean anti-semites.
22:38Okay. Later. Bye.
22:39>> Okay. All right. Thank you, BB. All right. That was fantastic. Uh, how's everything going with you, Mike McCrae?
22:48>> Doing good. Hey, if any of your listeners are in the Hill Country area and looking for something to do tonight, I'm headlining the Brass Hall in Marble Falls, Texas here tonight at 8:00. Uh I hear it's an awesome place. I've never been there before, the Brass Hall. But yeah, if you're interested, go to marblefallslaugh.com.
23:09>> Okay. Marble Falls. Didn't even know that was a place.
23:12>> Oh, it's in the lovely little town outside Austin.
23:15>> Oh, no. No, no kidding. Okay. All right.
23:17Well, you have fun. That's beautiful.
23:18>> A lake.
23:19>> On a lake.
23:21>> Oh, it's on Yeah, it's on one of the lakes. We got a whole lot of lakes up here.
23:24>> No kidding.
23:25>> What's your favorite?
23:25>> What's your favorite lake?
23:26>> Yeah, they're all created by dams.
23:29>> Really?
23:30>> Yeah, they're all man-made.
23:32>> Huh? Do you ever >> Colorado River Lake? Colorado River Lakes.
23:37>> No kidding. Huh?
23:39>> You think I'm making this up?
23:41>> I'm looking for some place to go in July.
23:45>> Oh, yeah. Lake Travis. There's all sorts of stuff.
23:47>> Oh, no kidding. Okay, maybe I maybe that's a good idea. Maybe I'll check it out.
23:52>> All right, we'll get to it. Yeah.
23:54>> Yeah. Mike McCrae online on Instagram.
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24:00>> That's me.
24:01>> Okay, Mikey. Good to talk to you, pal.
24:04>> All right, talk to you soon. Have a good show, guys.
24:06>> And we'll be right back.
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27:29So, this is the Iranian prime minister and this is kind of a funny story. Uh, this is a tweet from him. It says diplomatic efforts for peaceful settlements on the ongoing war in the Middle East are progressing steadily, strongly and powerfully with the potential to lead the substantive results in near future to allow diplomacy to run its course. I earnestly request President Trump to extend the deadline for two weeks. Pakistan in all sincerity requests the Iranian brothers to open the straight of Hormuse for a corresponding period of 2 weeks as a goodwill gesture. We also urge all warning waring parties to observe a
28:05ceasefire everywhere for two weeks to allow diplomacy to achieve conclusive termination of war in the interest of long-term peace and stability in the region. And um so I I ran this through a Google BS translation and it says we just got this urgent plea from ourselves and must honor it or so here. Look, let me just show you this.
28:30>> That's one. So Arno Bertron he's he says this is funny Trump's justification for extending his deadline by two weeks is that Pakistan's prime minister requested it >> but when you look at the edit history of the post in question by Pakistan's prime minister where he requests an extension it's painfully obvious it was sent to him by the white house since his first stupidly since he first stupidly posted it with the mentioned draft.
29:01Yeah.
29:05Okay. All right. Uh and uh always double check to be sure to be sure. You got to double check to see that he he put the J between his first and last name. We don't want to confuse him with Donald F. Trump.
29:24He puts Oh, you can't even see it. Oh, You can't see the bottom. Um anyway, so uh diplomatic efforts for peaceful settlement of the ongoing war in the Middle East are progressing steadily, strongly probably. And then here it is.
29:43Draft.
29:45There it is. There it is. Draft. Okay.
29:48So Pakistan's plea to Trump draft of a Twitter post looks scripted by someone else.
29:56A message from Pakistani Prime Minister Shabbaz Sharif requesting that President Donald Trump delay his threats to wipe out Iran faced extra scrutiny Tuesday when social media sleuths showed an early draft of his plea appeared written by an entity outside of Pakistan.
30:14>> It doesn't take a sleuth, Jimmy.
30:15>> No. Uh, a draft of Sharief's expost updated a minute before the final version was posted earlier on Tuesday is topped with the message draft Pakistan's PM message. Ryan Grim suggested the message was likely not written by Sharief, noting his own staff would not refer to him as Pakistan's prime minister and that the post could have been written by either the US or Israel.
30:41Other users questioned why the initial post indicated it was a draft and referred to the prime minister in English suggesting the message was not written by Pakistani officials. Sharif's office did not immediately respond to requests for comment from Forbes. So uh so Trump on Tuesday announced the ceasefire with Iran after threatening that threat drawing criticism from world allies and many Republicans drew a request from Sharief for Trump to extend his Tuesday deadline to allow diplomacy to run its course. Trump issued his latest threat on Sunday already the third time he had delayed a deadline
31:18into Iran, warning the US would attack Iran's civilian infrastructure and that Iran would be living in hell by Tuesday.
31:25Negotiations appeared to be murky throughout the day as the New York Times reported. Iranian officials cut off talks while the Tyran Times indicated negotiations were still open. Okay. And just remember when Donald Trump suggests something as a goodwill measure, it just means he's going to destroy your economy so that everyone has to shop at Goodwill.
31:47>> Iran will be living in hell. Is he threatening to turn them into LaGuardia?
31:51Uh I and here's the and whenever Trump has to make a statement that is even even more poorly thought out, a blunt instrument that that's his standard, right? But it's because he is cut and pasting his statements from his Zionist masters.
32:12>> Yeah. That's how you already know it's fake. But because they're not going, "Israel decided this." When they say Trump decided it, that doesn't mean anything.
32:19>> No. Nobody's more clumsy at Nobody is more clumsily obvious than our only democratic ally in the Middle East. Hey, maybe it's his way of blinking twice for the camera to let everyone know he's captured and doing it under duress.
32:33Maybe >> so that's so that is so I mean go there it is. So on 12 at 12 minutes he posted that then he's like oh and he reposts it without the and of course he wouldn't refer to himself.
32:49>> Yeah. No Pakistan made the call. Uh field marshall ass Muncher or whatever his name was. He that it was up to him at the end of the day.
32:58>> The place where we booted their democratically elected president because he didn't support Ukraine enough.
33:03>> That's right.
33:04>> Their field marshal like their starship troopers. That guy decided how this is going to go with Israel and Iran.
33:12>> Yeah, >> it's uh the clown show is not stopping.
33:18The clown show is not stopping and uh now Donald Trump says the uh they're they're they've ripped up the uh the deal, the 10-point deal, and they've thrown it in the trash. uh although uh JD Vance and Kushner and Whit are headed to Islamabad on Saturday to continue negotiations. So >> now do we know what the 10point because from what I understand we've never known what the 10point plan was. There's one they put out but we don't know the actual 10 points of it. I think we do now. But listen, uh, you come see me tell you, tell you want to hear jokes about this, come see me in Salt Lake City this Sunday. Then in Las Vegas,
33:57then May 7th, Burbank, California.
34:00Special show, a lot of special surprises. And then Tulsa, Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, Spokane, and Tacoma. Go to jimmy.com for a link for tickets.
34:08We're going to bring on our guest, Colonel McGregor. And Kurt, we'll see you after that. I me I have made it clear to the Israeli leadership that I do not support their expansionist ideas.
34:19The indigenous people of that land have rights that cannot be ignored. We must find a fair solution, not one dictated by any single group.
34:41Heat. Heat.
35:33I'm having trouble hearing you guys. Can >> How about me? Can you hear me? Can you hear me now?
35:37>> Can you make it a little louder? Or is it Or maybe it's my audio setting. I don't know. Let me check. Yeah. Let me see if I can get mine up.
35:44>> Thank you.
35:44>> Okay, good.
35:45>> That's better. Yep.
35:46>> That's better. Okay, good. We have a special guest, Douglas McGregor. He's a popular political commentator, retired US Army Colonel, and served as a senior adviser to acting secretary of defense under President Trump. Has served on the board of US Military Academy. Currently, he's the CEO of Our Country, Our Choice, a media company that aims to unite like-minded Americans. and he recently launched his own Substack at McGregorwarrior.stack.com.
36:14Welcome back to the show, Douglas McGregor.
36:17>> Hey, thanks very much, Jimmy. It's been a long time since I saw you.
36:20>> Yeah, it's been >> We were in Washington last time, weren't we?
36:23>> Yeah, I think so. I think that's that is correct. I really appreciate you taking time out and for our little show. And uh I've got lots >> little show. You have a big show. You know, I have to be here.
36:35>> Okay. At least this way people will find out I don't wear a white suit and carry a bucket of chicken under my arm.
36:42>> Okay. Uh I wanted to ask you uh just real quickly I wanted to go back over the the the rescue of the downed pilot in Iran. And right before that happened the uh the US Army chief resigned and he said a madman is about to lead the great US military to ruin. Now, my guess is that um he knew about the plan. Uh the this this the Well, why do you think he resigned?
37:15>> First of all, he did not resign. Uh he was told to retire.
37:19>> Okay.
37:20>> There's a big difference. Uh we haven't had anybody, at least in my lifetime, I can go all the way back to the Vietnam period. I can't find a single solid uh example of a general officer or an admiral who resigned.
37:35>> So he so he did not resign. So he he he got why do you think he got fired?
37:40>> Well, I think there are probably a number of things. You've got a lot of leftovers from the uh Clinton uh Biden, you know, Bush era that were very uh comfortable with all of the DEI programs and policies. That's probably part of it.
37:57Uh, somebody said, well, he had been in charge of the transformation account or whatever when he was down in Austin, Texas at the transformation headquarters. That's been a complete catastrophe. We've spent billions and billions and billions of dollars, changed absolutely nothing of significance in the army. Now, I'm just pointing those things out because those those are good reasons to send the man packing. But, uh, was he opposed to what what the president is trying to do? We have no way of knowing. And I think when he made that that comment, he was out of uniform and retired. I mean, he has every right to speak once he's out of
38:35uniform, but I don't know of any example of any open opposition while he was on active duty.
38:43So, um, now I had, uh, predicted that, uh, based on several different pieces of information that Trump was going to try a ground invasion starting last Friday, Good Friday. And I'm pretty sure he kind of tried to do that because the story was that, oh, they downed our pilot and so we launched this unbelievably big rescue mission with C130s and Apache helicopters and dozens and dozens of of soldiers. That was the report. Um but what uh according to Iran that that was a failed operation to attack the uh Ish is Fahan uh nuclear site. Um it it according to Press TV. Well, here let me show you this quick little video. This
39:31is what they said happened and I'm going to get your reaction to it.
39:35>> Extensive evidence that has come to light about the recent operation by the American Zionist enemy in Isvahan has exposed a crushing strategic defeat for the United States. US President Donald Trump's frantic threats in the past few days to target Iran's civilian infrastructure, including power plants and bridges, are a direct consequence of the heavy defeat suffered by the US forces in the Isfahan operation. The failed raid was carried out after the enemy conducted extensive aerial reconnaissance operations in the days leading up to the attack. According to the exclusive information, during those
40:00initial infiltration and reconnaissance missions, the US and possibly the Zionist regime lost a significant number of aircraft, including at least one A-10 Thunderbolt 2 and two Blackhawk helicopters. The information obtained by Press TV reveals that zero hour for the failed ISAN operation was set during a secret meeting at the White House under the direct supervision of the US president himself. It has now become clear that this operation had no connection to the claimed rescue of a downed F-15 fighter pilot. A narrative initially pushed by American officials.
40:25Instead, evidence examined and confirmed by Press TV indicates that the real objective was to infiltrate and attack one of Iran's nuclear facilities in Isvahan. The landing site for C130 transport aircraft chosen based on previous reconnaissance was an abandoned airirstrip located dangerously close to one of these nuclear sites. The Americans miscalculated, believing that Iran's air defense would be unable to confront the aircraft involved in the operation. However, Press TV learned that the deployment of numerous US aircraft occurred while the Iranian armed forces were in full alert waiting for them. In fact, American special
40:53forces fell directly into a trap set by Iranian forces. The Iranian armed forces, including the Army, law enforcement, Faraja, the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps, IRGC, and local popular forces, initially did not show a serious reaction to the landing of the first C130, which was carrying dozens of special forces commandos. Evidence shows this aircraft veered somewhat off the runway while landing at the abandoned dirt air strip. Minutes later, a second C130 aircraft approached, carrying specialized vehicles, several MH6 Little Bird helicopters and other support equipment. At that moment, Iranian
41:23forces on the scene targeted the second aircraft before it could land. turning its normal landing into an emergency one. Two Blackhawk helicopters also arrived shortly after. It was at this moment that the aircraft, helicopters, and commandos who had disembarked from the first plane became perfect targets for the Iranian armed forces. After the special forces realized they had fallen into the trap, the White House situation room made a critical decision. The main operation to infiltrate the nuclear site was changed into a desperate rescue operation for the dozens of US commandos trapped under Iranian fire. The
41:48Americans immediately sent several smaller aircraft to extract their forces, barely managing to gather the individuals and withdraw them from the deadly situation. The rescue operation was conducted so hastily that some soldiers and officers abandoned their equipment, including, according to the evidence possessed by Press TV, the identification document of an American officer left behind in the area to save their lives. After the commandos were evacuated, American fighter jets established a line of fire with a 5 km radius to prevent Iranian forces from approaching the abandoned C130's at the air strip. The jets also carried out
42:17heavy bombing of their own equipment to prevent it from falling into Iranian hands. In this failed operation, US special forces did not even have the chance to fly the special Little Bird helicopters. Some were destroyed on the ground, while others were destroyed inside the second C130 aircraft.
42:29Following this disgraceful and heavy defeat, Trump hastily and chaotically held multiple press conferences to cover up the failure and falsely portray it as a pilot rescue operation. The information obtained by Press TV notes that the heavy aftershocks of this great debacle for Trump will affect not only the fate of the ongoing war against the Islamic Republic of Iran, but also the political future of America's gambling and ignorant president, his Republican party, and the American political scene for years to come.
42:53So that's I think that's what really happened. I of course, you know, you got to take everything with a grain of salt.
42:59It could be war propaganda from Iran, but that's press TV. And I think that fa that was a failed military operation that Trump had to spin. And that's why he was so unhinged on Sunday and using expletives and and and and and threatening to wipe out their civilization because he had a failed military operation. What do you make of it?
43:21>> Was that Ben Shapiro narrating Shapiro? I maybe he changed sides. Who knows? Anyhow, I think it's plausible what was described, but I don't have access to the facts. Uh, and you're not going to get access to the facts because that mission is highly classified. Now, how did that come about? I think that was probably the first serious effort to deal with this enriched uranium matter.
43:50But it's strange because at the same time we have been insisting that the enriched uranium is buried inside a mountain that we bombed back in June of last year. Well, if it's buried under a mountain that was destroyed in June of last year, what are we doing in in and around Isvah? Well, they have nuclear research and development going on down there. So, I suppose that was part of it. Again, it's it's very odd. Now, you're not going to get a ground invasion of Iran. To do that, you'd need a million troops. And they'd have to be organized, trained, and equipped to deal with this very different environment uh
44:27that you see there. And we're seeing in Eastern Ukraine. We're we're still organized to refight World War II in some fashion. That's one of the reasons that we're not doing very well right now.
44:39So, uh, I mean, the fact that, you know, the downed pilot was, they said, you know, he was a 100 miles away when he was downed and from where they picked him up, there's no way he hiked 100 100 miles in one day, right?
44:53>> No, I I don't think so. But I'm glad we got him out. Thank goodness. And somebody said to me, "Well, why are we making such a fuss over a pilot? You know, we don't we don't seem to be that concerned about soldiers, sailors, or marines. And people don't understand that if you're asking a pilot to to fly into enemy airspace where he can be shot down potentially, uh he would like to know that you're going to make an effort to get him out and just not abandon him.
45:18So I think people need to understand that because I do deal often with lots of people who are angry over what they think is disproportionate attention focused on a pilot. But this man was also an intelligence officer. He was very well informed about a whole range of things. So it's it's a good thing he did not fall into enemy hands.
45:38>> Okay. Um I wanted to So Donald Trump initially seemed to be accepting uh the 10 points that Iran was demanding. Uh it says um right here that u uh the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the complete immediate and safe open of the straight of Hormuz. I agree to suspend the bombing and attacks of Iran for a period of two weeks. this will be a double-sided ceasefire. But that's not how Iran saw it. Iran saw it. That the United States absolute humiliation for Washington on Al Jazer. Iranian state TV confirms Trump was forced to accept a humiliating 10-point plan. The US is withdrawing troops, paying reparations,
46:23and surrendering the straight of Hormuse. Total strategic defeat for Trump. So, did do you agree that if he accepted that the 10-point plan that it would be a strategic and humiliating defeat for Trump?
46:37>> No, I I don't think he accepted the 10 points. And furthermore, you know, the Iranians, they're declaring victory. You know, obviously, they think uh and and they're not entirely wrong simply because we're the ones that have been asking for days now for a ceasefire, not the Iranians. The Iranians really don't want a ceasefire. They made that very clear. they hold the strategic initiative. We don't. But on the other hand, you have uh Secretary of War Hegsth telling us that this is evidence for our great victory over Iran. So you can pick which one you want to believe.
47:11I think what's actually happened is as follows.
47:14there was some sort of backdoor deal uh under which Pakistan would submit this proposal that we may well have crafted ourselves in some fashion and said okay we'll present this to them and we'll say that this is being presented to you which is what happened the 10point aspect of this whole thing I I think was simply glossed over by President Trump in fact I don't know that any of the details were carefully examined what they really wanted was a pause. And I think that's what you're getting.
47:48You're getting an intermission. Now, how long will it last? I'm I'm hearing from friends in the region telling me that it's already fallen apart. It's completely meaningless. On the other hand, I'm being told by friends in Washington that this is going to go forward and we are going to meet in Islamabad. What are we going to discuss?
48:07Well, if you look at the 10 points, and no one has seen a document from Iran that lists these 10 points, but we have a general view idea of what's in them.
48:17And if you look at them, they're completely unacceptable. Totally unacceptable to us because we have taken Israel's position. And I think this gets to the real point of the whole issue right now. Our interests and Israel's interests, contrary to popular belief, contrary to what President Trump has said, are not the same.
48:40We want this thing to end.
48:43President Trump was quote unquote misinformed.
48:46You know, he was told in a few days this will be over. They'll fall apart. Uh then we can move on to other things. I think he was told that by Netanyahu.
48:55when he still didn't move, Netanyahu attacked and we were sort of dragged in to do this. It's been a catastrophe for the world, a disaster for the world, for the global economy. It's not good for us. And so, when you look at these 10 points, it's impossible for for us to accept them without effectively abandoning Israel. And at this point, I don't think that's going to happen.
49:21>> So, what do you make of Well, here, let me just show you. These are these are the reported 10 points. Now again, we as you said, we don't have an official confirmation on this, but they wanted a guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again. Permanent end to the war, not just a ceasefire. They want an end to Israel strikes on Lebanon. Excellent.
49:40>> Israel is bombing the hell out of uh Lebanon right now. Lifting of all US sanctions on Iran, end to all regional fighting against Iranian allies. Iran would reopen the straight of Hormuz.
49:53Iran would impose $2 million fees per ship trans transiting the Hormuz. Number eight, Iran would split these fees with Oman. And number nine, Iran would establish rules for safe passage through Hormuz. Number 10, Iran would use Harmmuse's fees for reconstructions instead of reparations. So that was what was this is being reported by many credible sources that that was the 10 points. Um, and you're and as as you say, there's no way that Trump could agree to those, but he did seem initially to say yes. Um, >> well, he had to do that in order to get any sort of discussion. You know, Jimmy, if you don't say, "All right, we'll
50:33consider these as the basis for negotiation, which effectively is what we said. You can't meet with them." Now, the point is the Iranians have just said until the bombing in in Lebanon stops, we're not going to take this ceasefire seriously. In other words, they want it to be regionwide.
50:52And it's not regionwide right now. We're trying to separate what Israel is doing from the talks that we want to have.
51:00Well, that's not acceptable either to Israel or to Iran. So, I don't know where we go from this. Maybe we're still going to have a meeting. Then again, you have to keep in mind that uh the two gentlemen Kushner and Witkoff have both been historic previously disinvited from coming back, but apparently they're going to be there along with Vice President Vance.
51:24>> So here is uh from today here's the press secretary and here's what she had to say about the 10-point plan >> already. So let me be clear and correct the record. The Iranians originally put forward a 10-point plan that was fundamentally unserious, unacceptable, and completely discarded. It was literally thrown in the garbage by President Trump and his negotiating team. Many outlets in this room have falsely reported on that plan as being acceptable to the United States, and that is false. With the president's deadline fast approaching and the United States military completely decimating Iran with each passing hour, the regime
51:52acknowledged reality to the negotiating team. They put forward a more reasonable and entirely different and condensed plan to the president and his team.
51:58President Trump and the team determined the new modified plan was a workable basis on which to negotiate and to align align it with our own 15-point proposal.
52:04The president's red lines, namely the end of Iranian enrichment in Iran, have not changed. And the idea that President Trump would ever accept an Iranian wish list as a deal is completely absurd.
52:15So now this story because Trump got a lot of push back after it was reported that he had accepted these 10 points and that they were going to work it out further over the next two weeks. And so uh I think that's what that is about.
52:30And he's they're now saying no no no we we got rid of those 10 points because he was getting so even Fox News was upset with him over it. And I know right.
52:41And so, um, I So, now they're saying, "No, no, no. We got rid of those 10 points. Nobody worry about that." And now we have new points. We're not going to tell you what they are. Uh, that's that's a workable thing. So, that's why this Saturday meeting in Islamabad with Kushner, Whit, and Vance is going forward. Does that make sense?
53:02>> I think it's as good an explanation as any anybody else can come up with. By the way, I didn't know we had a female Ben Shapiro. That's a new development.
53:12>> I speed it up a little.
53:14>> Oh, really? Okay. Well, that's good. I didn't want to think of Ben in drag.
53:17>> Okay.
53:19>> I uh I you know, it's very clear that President Trump and and I say this because I had a couple of occasions with him and he was not enthusiastic about going to war with Iran. And I think President Trump probably in his heart, and I think he has one, contrary to what some people think, absolutely did not want this war.
53:43I think he now knows that he's got a stinker and that this thing needs to stop. The problem for him is that how does he stop it? There's no evidence that the reckless team running the show in Israel is prepared to stop anything.
54:00And now he's got a problem with the Iranians. They hold the strategic initiative. They have demonstrated they cannot be conquered. I mean, literally, that's what they've demonstrated.
54:09They're a mountain fortress. You need a million men to invade the place. Nobody in their right mind wants to be bothered with that. So, he's trying to focus narrowly on the Persian Gulf because I think he's had every leader in the world, particularly in the global south, call him and say, "Look, we're we're headed into a global economic depression. We have food, feed stock, fuel, and fertilizer problems. If we can't fix this very, very quickly, we're going to have people starving around the world. What are you going to do about it? So, I think all of these things are now driving the show in in the White
54:44House. The problem is that I don't think he's going to get very far for the reasons that were just outlined because I don't think the Iranians are inclined to compromise very much. Maybe some, but not most. Do you think China I've heard reports that China has stepped in and is is pressuring they they pressured Iran uh to to stop the to to do a ceasefire um because they need oil and >> well China imports half of half of all of its oil from the Persian Gulf about 13% from Iran and the rest from the Gulf states they are now looking around the world for alternatives uh the Russian Of course, they're making more than $250
55:29million a day more than they did previously because of the demand for their oil and they're selling it to the highest bidder. This has become a a biders market. The the Japanese, the Koreans, and others have outbid the Europeans to the point where tankers headed for Europe turned around and sailed back to Asia. This is a very serious situation. Uh, so I think that that China very definitely puts some pressure on the Iranians and I think the Iranians want to accommodate the Chinese. But in fairness to the Chinese, I would like to point out that from the very beginning, even before the war began, the Chinese had said, "Don't do
56:07this. This is a disaster. Don't do it.
56:10We didn't listen." The Russians told Donald Trump, "This will be a disaster.
56:15Don't do it." Nobody listened to them, and they were right. The Indians have privately said the same thing. All of them are interested in halting this because of the global economic catastrophe that is ensuing.
56:29>> So here is uh here's a little bit more from the press secretary.
56:34>> I can uh announce that the president is dispatching his negotiating team um led by the vice president of the United States JD Vance, special envoy Whit.
56:44>> So there there you go. So she is reconfirming >> and Mr. Kushner to Islamabad for talks this weekend. The first round of >> Oh, this is what's >> those talks will take place on Saturday morning local time. Uh and we know we look forward to those in-person meetings.
56:59>> So there you have it. So there she's confirming that the negotiations are moving forward. There's going to be a negotiation Saturday. Now these things are changing by the minute it seems. Uh but uh why on earth would Iran ever want to negotiate with Jared Kushner and Witkoff after they've been lied to repeatedly over and over? By the way, they're not even official members of the government, are they? Uh so, uh what do you make of what do you make of what she just said?
57:28>> Well, it's what I said earlier. I I had a feeling this would happen. And the Iranians made it very clear that in their minds they're dealing with two people who are agents for Israel. These are these people are not representing the interests of the American people. In fact, they went so far as to suggest that they would be they would prefer, frankly, to talk with Vice President Vance, whom they regarded as a truly balanced representative of American national interest. By the way, the Russians reached the same conclusions about Kushner and Whitov, both of whom were interested more in side deals that
58:05they could make that would enrich themselves than they were in the substance under discussion. I think the fact that President Trump is sending the two of them back with Vance suggests that Mr. Netanyahu continues to hold enormous power and influence over President Trump.
58:22what where what what is your hunch on where they get that leverage?
58:29>> Uh you know it's not it's I I can't give you a hunch. What I would say is the following. If you look at the collection of billionaires, Zionist billionaires, these are people like Ellison and others who are contributing heavily to the power and influence of the lobby.
58:45Remember the is Israel lobby has never been regarded as a foreign lobby. Why?
58:50Well, most of its money doesn't come from overseas. It comes from people inside the United States who are Zionists.
58:57And these Zionists are the ones that helped to get President Trump elected.
59:01You can go back to Miriam add to the discussions she had with Trump. She provided $150 million to his campaign, but she extracted some promises. And those promises included, you're going to deal with Iran finally. We have to have a settlement with Iran. The Israelis know they can't settle anything with Iran without American military power. So effectively, President Trump is obligated to commit American armed forces in a war against Iran that is dis designed to ultimately destroy Iran and make it subservient to Israel. Now, why would that be the case? Well, you have to look at the larger picture for
59:42Israel. Israel will never feel safe in the region until it dominates all of it.
59:48Hence the Greater Israel Project. If you look at the Greater Israel Project, it's patently obvious what's going on. Now, even in the last few weeks, what's interesting is that people like Naftali Bennett as well as Mr. Netanyahu have stood up and said, "Well, you know, there's another problem. It's called Turkey. Those Turks will have to be dealt with." Mhm.
60:11>> So I guess if you're sitting in the armed forces right now of the United States, you say, "Well, once we finally destroyed Iran, I guess we'll be committed to destroy Turkey."
60:20>> I mean, this is the sort of madness that is going on. And President Trump is caught. He's caught in this not just in this escalation trap. Instead of looking for ways to ameliate conditions, improve relations, and and talk intelligently, he's taken this bullying approach, which is what he learned, I'm sure, in the real estate market in New York City. And this bullying approach has put him in a terrible position. I mean, on on one night, he says, "I'm going to destroy an entire CI civilization. There will be nothing left." The next day, he says, "Well, I really want to help the Iranian people."
60:59What the hell is this? Uh, it makes no sense.
61:03>> So, here's the the big sticking point. I think this is what's ruining the ceasefire. So, here was the original deal from uh Pakistan. It said that we have agreed to an immediate ceasefire everywhere including Lebanon and elsewhere effective immediately. Uh, and then Israel just starts pummeling Lebanon after this. And here's what JD Vance had to say about it. uh he's uh in Hungary for some reason. And here we go.
61:32>> I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the Iranians thought that the ceasefire included Lebanon and it just didn't. We never made that promise. We never indicated that was going to be the case. What we said is that the ceasefire would be focused on Iran and the ceasefire would be focused on America's allies, both Israel and the Gulf Arab states.
61:52>> So he's saying it was just a big misunderstanding. Max Blumenthal said that oh you know Trump got his call from his Zion masters and that's what happened.
62:02>> Max is right. Uh what happened was exactly what Max stated. Again I go back to the original drafts of these messages and I think the original message that we instructed the Pakistanis to send did not exclude Lebanon. And when it became clear that we accepted it because after all we told them what we wanted them to send. Mr. Netanyahu got on the phone and called Trump and said, "You can't do this. We have to finish off Lebanon."
62:31Uh, and so then we back backed off immediately and said, "Oh, we're sorry.
62:35We we can't include Lebanon in this."
62:37And I think Max is right.
62:39>> And so here's the response. Uh, the Iran US ceasefire terms are clear and explicit. US must choose ceasefire or continued war via Israel. It cannot have both. The world sees the massive the massacres in Lebanon. The ball is in the US court and the world is watching whether it will act on its commitments.
63:02Do you think that so if they don't stop Israel from bombing Lebanon, Iran will not agree to a ceasefire? So do you think that this war is going to go on? Just I've heard people say that it's going to go on for two more years now. What What do you think?
63:19>> Well, it's going to continue. There's no question about it. That's why I said if if anything, this will be an intermission in a very bad play. This is this is not going to be any sort of uh lasting ceasefire. And the Israelis don't respect ceasefires anyway. We have a long history of that sort of thing.
63:36>> Well, if you ask Chat GBT, which I did, how many ceasefires has Israel broken?
63:41Number only. 2073.
63:44That's according to Chat GBT.
63:47Well, I'm sure that Larry Ellison will get control of Chad at some point and change that. But the the bottom line is now this is going to go on. Now you say how long will this last a year or two years or something else? I think the world is going to intervene in this.
64:03When I say the world, I'm talking about economic reality. I'm also talking about financial and economic reality here at home. I mean, how how much longer can we go on like this before the financial system finally buckles? We have people talking privately now about the 10-year bond and saying that this yield is going to rise. Once that that yield hits 5%, we're finished. We can't sustain the debt. And we've already added another trillion dollars to the national sovereign debt. So, it's 39 trillion. I don't know what the current uh debt to GDP ratio is. It was about uh 140% debt to GDP. I think it's rising quickly. At
64:48some point, you hit a brick wall and I think that's where the US financial system and our economy are sort of headed down the road in a in a very fast truck without any brakes right towards a concrete wall. So I I think that's going to have an impact and I think overseas for the reasons I already cited the rest of the world is going to demand an end to this thing. Uh the real problem is not so much us because I think privately President Trump wants to end this war.
65:18No question in my mind. The problem is Israel.
65:22>> So speaking to your point about the rest of the world uh is going to try to do something to end this. Well, this is from today. More than 15 countries planning to facilitate straight of Hormuz access. Mcronone says about 15 countries are currently mobilized and are participating in the planning under France's leadership to enable the implementation of this strictly defensive mission in coordination with Iran to facilitate the resumption of traffic. Mcronone said on Wednesday, speaking at the start of his meeting on defense and with advisers and members of his cabinet. So is is that a uh so it
66:01seems like uh the rest of the world is negotiating without Trump in a sense with Iran. Is is that does that uh sound like what's happening?
66:10>> Absolutely. Because at the same time, you have the Iranians have that said, if you're not affiliated with the United States, in other words, you're not supportive of the United States and Israel in this conflict, uh, and you're willing to pay the, uh, the the toll that we're charging and you're going to pay it in rubles or yuan or rupees and so forth. In other words, not in dollars. You can go through the straight. They've made that very clear.
66:37So the rest of the world is looking at this and saying,"Well, how does it help the world and help us for the United States armed forces to bomb Iran into the Stone Age?" And I think the answer is it doesn't. So I think the rest of the world is moving away from us at very high speed. And by the way, the Europeans have more incentive now than they've ever had before to launch out on their own away from us. I think that's pretty clear.
67:03>> It's it's that's pretty clear. Um, and so it it seems like Well, let me let me play. Here's a clip from um JD Vance.
67:14Um, and let's listen to what he has to say about Iran.
67:17>> Final point that I'll say about this is the president of the United States has told me and he's told the entire negotiating team, the Secretary of State, the special envoy, Steve Wood, he said, "Go and work in good faith to come to an agreement." That is what he has told us to do. If the Iranians are willing in good faith to work with us, I think we can make an agreement. if they're going to lie, if they're going to cheat, if they're trying going to try to um prevent even the fragile truths that we we've set up from taking place, then they're not going to be happy.
67:36Because what the president has also shown is that we still have clear military, diplomatic, and maybe most importantly, we have extraordinary economic leverage. So the president has told us not to use those tools. He's told us to come to the negotiating table, but if the Iranians don't do the exact same thing, they're going to find out the president of the United States is not one to mess around. He's impatient. He's impatient to make progress. He has told us to negotiate in good faith. And I think if they negotiate in good faith, we will be able to find a deal. That's a big if and ultimately it's up to the Iranians how
67:56they negotiate. I hope they make the right decision. So I think he's wrong about many everything he said. Uh he said that we have uh military dominance.
68:06We don't obviously we don't have that uh because the straight of Hormuz is closed. And he also says that we have economic dominance which obviously we don't have that either because with the straight of Hormuz close it destroys the uh world economy uh which will event which will affect us also. So it it's what what he's not that's just propaganda I think what he's saying and my question to you is has the United States already lost this war?
68:40Uh, I think the United States reputation in the world has been demolished under this administration to the point where nothing we say or do is believed. That's number one. Number two, I don't think anybody is interested anymore in an arrangement with us that puts them at risk of being involved in a fiasco like the one we've got underway now. I mean, I go back to Vietnam in 1963, 64,65. The British prime minister was a man named McMillan and he met with the president, first President Kennedy and and subsequently his successor Johnson and he said, "We're not going to Vietnam."
69:20And the two were shocked. And I think this is because presidents have assumed certainly since Eisenhower left office that NATO was some sort of collection of vassal states that were obligated to follow us into hell wherever we decided to make it. And that's over. That's absolutely dead on arrival now. Which is why Mcronone is trying to be a leader. I don't think it's going to go far, but he's trying to be the leader of the pack that says, "We're going to find a different way forward without you."
69:51Privately, I think President Trump is saying, "Well, that's a good thing.
69:55Let's get out of this." The problem is he doesn't know how to get out. You know, you don't get out by insulting everyone. You don't get out by destroying another country. If you want to really get out, you you have to be truthful. And then secondly, you have to conduct negotiations in private. The problem with us is that we bloiate publicly about everything. Everybody doesn't need to know what's discussed behind closed doors. What we need to know is whether or not there's going to be peace, whether or not there's a new arrangement. And people are saying, well, Iran has no business having any influence over the straight of Hormuz.
70:35Well, we have another place called the Dardinels.
70:38And the Dardinell Strait is controlled by the Turks.
70:42They control it. They've controlled it since 1936. And it's a treaty called the the Treaty of Montro. And this Montro Convention, which was reached in Switzerland, stipulates how things will be handled. And it's worked very, very well. Our approach ought to be different from what it is. Instead of confronting the Iranians head on, threatening them, we should say we would we would support an international uh convention of interested powers. That can be any number of different people who can put together a solution for the Persian Gulf that ensures access for everyone. You know, that's the sort of
71:23thing you need to do. What is you go back to Greenland, you're upset about the Arctic and access to the Arctic, then why not put together some sort of treaty for the Arctic that allows people access to the resources are there?
71:37Instead of doing these things, we keep pulling out a baseball bat and acting like Al Capone at dinner, walking around the table and beating anybody over the head who doesn't agree with us. I think it's over. those days are over that we can't behave like that any longer and we shouldn't. We live in a different world.
71:55But I hold the minority opinion and I think unfortunately there are still a lot of Americans who are very enamored of that. They think that's a manifestation of our greatness. We we beat somebody up last night. We're tough. We're the best. It's it's dumb.
72:11It's counterproductive.
72:13>> So before I let you go, I just wanted to ask you about switch gears. We'll talk about Ukraine. Here's what JD Vance said uh about Ukraine.
72:22>> We've been disappointed by a lot of political leadership in Europe because they don't seem particularly interested in solving this this particular conflict. And what the president has said is we it's the hardest war to solve. In some ways, we thought it would be the easiest, but it has been the hardest. We've been at it for now 14 months and we're just going to keep on working at it. Fundamentally, the war has stopped making sense. What I would say to both the Russians and the Ukrainians is, you know, we're talking about haggling at this point over a few square kilometers of territory in one
72:40direction or another. Is that worth losing hundreds of thousands of additional Russian and Ukrainian young men? Is that worth an additional months or even years of higher energy prices and economic devastation? We think the answer is clearly no. But it takes, you know, two to tango. So, while Victor and President Trump are going to continue to work towards a peaceful settlement, fundamentally, we can only open the door to the Russians and Ukrainians.
72:56>> So, uh, what what do you that what what do you make of that? That >> that's an expression of extreme ignorance. A man has no appreciation of what the hell is going on.
73:07>> Why don't we just tell Mexico we'd like more of Guadalajara?
73:12You know, after all, it's only a few miles of dirt and sand. Why lose any sleep over that? This is crazy nonsense.
73:20Americans in general know nothing about the world beyond our borders. Now, that's unfortunate, but when it happens with your leaders, the people that are controlling your government, it's a catastrophe.
73:33We don't appre appreciate anything that requires some measure of humility. In other words, we don't walk in and say, "Okay, we really are not deeply concerned about this. We have never had any vital strategic interest in Ukraine, let alone eastern Ukraine, but we'd like to help solve this. How can we do that?"
73:56Well, you can only get so far because you have to have two parties willing to listen. But it can be done. And you can also bring in the other people who border Ukraine and Russia. They should have a say in this. You you understand what I'm driving at?
74:10>> This is the way you conduct foreign policy, right?
74:14>> You don't do it the way we Oh, we're going to support the Ukrainians and we'll this is great for us because we're killing Russians. What? How does it help Americans to kill Russians?
74:25How does it help Ukraine to spend 1.5 to 1.8 million lives in a war that accomplishes nothing for Ukraine but its destruction? I had a I had a short discussion about this with someone at a very high level back in April of 2022 and I said, "Sir, Ukraine has no more chance of winning against Russia than Mexico would have a chance winning against us. This is a disaster. This will end up crushing Ukraine. You must step up and stop this." And I was told, "Well, that's interesting. Everybody I'm talking to thinks Ukraine is winning.
75:09>> Wow. So you do.
75:11>> Do you think this is the this situation with Iran and Ukraine? Does it spell does it does it really mean the end of NATO as we know it?
75:22>> Oh yeah. NATO is already dead man walking. And that's fine. It's the way we did it. What President Trump could have done is he could have met with the heads of NATO and said, "Uh, we are not going to supply a fourstar to run the military inside NATO any longer. We're going to re reduce or remove all of our troops over the next four or five years.
75:45We will stay in NATO and we will try to support you, but you must be your own first responder."
75:52I mean, that's how you get out. That's how you make it clear that you're backing out. you're going to do it in a in a responsible uh predictable phased way. Instead, what do we do? Oh, well, you people aren't paying enough money. You're not doing your fair share. When we want you to go to war with us, you won't go, so you're no damn good.
76:13Catastrophe. What's the point? And by the way, uh I'm somebody who has always I've got a long history of this. I like the Israelis. I spent time in Israel. I think it's a wonderful country, but what they've done has been disastrous and what they're trying to do is disastrous.
76:31They're effectively announcing that they plan to turn most of the region into Gaza.
76:36And if you don't want to be turned into Gaza, then you have to do what we say.
76:41This is not going to work for Israel.
76:43This is going to be the end of Israel in the long run because the region will just turn on them. The Egyptians right now are on the verge of exploding. I don't know how much longer General Cece is going to last. They have rolling blackouts in that country. The population is seething with anger and discontent and the hatred and anger at Israel is off the charts. You have a similar situation, although the standard of living is still good and there aren't any rolling blackouts, but you have a similar attitude in the Turks. If this war drags on and drags on, which a lot of people think it will, it's only a
77:22matter of time until those two states become involved in the war. And when that happens, the Russians and the Chinese are not going to sit on the sidelines because they have an interest in stopping this. We don't want World War II.
77:38>> I understand you started a new Substack.
77:41Is that correct? Right.
77:42>> Yes, it is. Yeah. It's called McGregor Warrior Substack. And uh I'm writing something every week at the moment to try and keep up with the madness, which is not easy, but I think people will find what I put there of interest. I've stopped writing elsewhere because frankly, I don't think it made any difference. It looks like more people are reading Substack than anything else right now in print anywhere.
78:06>> Yeah, agreed. Well, Douglas McGregor, I appreciate you uh taking time out. I know you're a busy man and we always appreciate your insight here and uh thanks again. We'll see talk to you soon.
78:18>> Thank you, Jimmy.
78:19>> Okay, >> over to Steph.
78:21>> Uh it is 4:14. Do you want to uh stay one more story on YouTube and then go?
78:27>> Let me just let me do this. Could you come to me?
78:29>> Back to Jimmy.
78:30>> Let me just play this just just We had to let He had to go. He had an appointment. So, I wanted to play this for him, but I didn't get the time. I want to play this now. This is Petraeus and listen to what he has to say about the Ukraine war.
78:43>> Over the last two months, the Ukrainians have actually made greater incremental gains than have the Russians. And that's really quite remarkable and it's a tribute uh to just not the sheer tenacity and determination and expertise of the soldiers on the front. Although it is very much that, it's really a tribute to the extraordinary innovation that has characterized what's going on in Ukraine over the last two or three years in particular when they've realized that they cannot again outnumber or outgun the Russians. So what they've done is is out So, that is a guy who is paid to lie. He always has been a paid liar. He's a paid
79:14liar. He's he's dumb um in lots of different ways. The fact that he was having an affair and giving top level secrets to a woman he was having an affair with who was writing a a book.
79:29And uh so that's the kind of garbage that people are telling Donald Trump.
79:34That's garbage that somehow the UK Ukraine are outmaneuvering Russia. You just heard what Douglas McGregor just said. It's it's over. Um there's no way.
79:46It's it's just like it it expecting Mexico to be able to beat the United States in war. It's not happening. So this is just again the draining of the Treasury uh and and dispersing it. This is called socialism for the international security state. This is socialism for the military-industrial complex. That's all this is. So instead of taking our tax dollars and using it for ourselves here at home, we're we're giving it to the military-industrial complex and the war machine. And you got clowns like this. And this guy should be in prison uh for what he did, divulging top level secrets to his lover. And uh
80:25he's not. He should be in prison for just saying that. Uh because that's just that is just >> in fairness Jimmy his wife Holly Petraeus did look a lot like Rick Morannis.
80:36>> Okay. In fairness in fairness. So I just wanted to show put that as a button on the end of that uh little Ukraine decision. NATO is over is and uh you know what else has happened and people uh are going to start realizing it more and more is that Iran has now established itself as a world power.
80:58Uh that's actually what has happened here. Iran is a world power. Iran has the ability to to uh to cut off the world's energy supply and has the ability to thrust the whole world into a not a recession but a depression. And so they're the they're a world power now.
81:18And uh and I I don't know about on the I wouldn't say they're on par with the United States, but uh where they need to be, they are. And we again this this this idea that we're going to win this war with Iran is a pipe dream. And already you see uh 15 countries trying to get together, trying to figure negotiating without Donald Trump, trying to figure out a way to get this uh taken care of. Uh Russia, China. Uh again, this is China is not going to put up with this much longer. So uh right now, in fact, um well, let me go to this story. Oh, I don't have it. I don't have it here. Uh I'll get it. Uh but anyway, that's uh
82:02that's that's how I think. What do you think, uh, Kurt?
82:06>> Um, the whole time they were winning, they were telling people how we eat kids here.
82:12>> No kidding.
82:13Uh, okay. All right. Let's uh uh if you want to hear my jokes about this, and man, do I have them, come see me in Salt Lake City, Las Vegas, Burbank, California. That's a Thursday, May 7th.
82:27That's a special show. Got a lot of special surprises. May 7th, Thursday in Burbank. And then we'll be in Tulsa, Oklahoma City, Spokane, and Tacoma. Go to jimmy.com for a link for tickets.
82:37Over to Steph.
82:38>> All right. Are you ready to go to Rumble? How do you want to roll?
82:40>> Yeah, let's go Rumble.
82:41>> All right, ladies and gentlemen. We'll see you at Rumble. Here is the link. See you there.
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