If any of you are Trump lovers, just prepare your little hearts to be offended.
0:05>> Conspiracy theories are entering [music] a dangerous >> information is the oxygen of the democracy.
0:11>> There's so much evidence out there that even if less than 1% [music] is true. Will that be enough to collapse the current paradigm and change the whole planet?
0:26So, some of you might have seen this from Valhalla already, but it's just funny and uh it'll get us started.
0:37And again, if any of you are Trump lovers, just prepare your little hearts to be offended.
0:43Do not We got to definitely write a song about how we do not didd kids. Do not dd kids. It's no good diddling, kids. There is no quicker way for people to think that you are diddling kids than by writing a song about it. You got to write a song. It's just I wouldn't do it with anybody younger than my daughter.
1:01No little kids got to be big, older than my wife, older than my daughter.
1:05Something like that.
1:11Shout out to Valhalla the man.
1:18[ __ ] beast.
1:20Welcome back to the channel everybody.
1:22And I got to say, we have got to be living in the most bizarre timeline in human history because if you didn't have Trump throat hugging Bill Clinton on your 2025 bingo card, neither did I. But here we are because if you haven't seen Yes. emails released yesterday of exactly this. Now, I'm going to tell you up front, I don't know if this is true or >> um to be clear, >> exactly I'm pretty sure it's true. I'm relatively sure that this email does exist at this point.
1:57That doesn't mean that what's in the email is true. You know, Mark Epstein could write anything he wants in an email, but the email does exist.
2:15Delete this. Now, I'm going to tell you up front, I don't know if this is true or not, but it also doesn't matter because it's hilarious either way. And the internet is absolutely ablaze with memes and videos and clips. So, um unlike yesterday's video where we ranted about how disgusting all these PDF protectors are, this one's going to be lighthearted. It's going to be fun. It's all going to be all comedy. So, what I've done is I'm I've compiled some of the funniest clips regarding this and we're going to go through them just to brighten your uh Saturday here. So, don't forget to like, comment,
2:47subscribe. Helps the channel. Also, American First merch.
2:51Completely restocked. It's been selling out in about 24 hours. So, go grab yourself some. So, let's jump into this thing and talk about it. So, it looks like it turns out that Hillary had a lot more competition than just Monica Lewinsky. She was also dealing with Donica Lewinsky as well. And it kind of makes sense the animosity between the two in the 2016 election. And now that we're looking back at it, some of these comments make a lot more sense now with uh these modern revelations that we've had. And one of the other funniest things about this is knowing that Cash Patel has had access to these files the
3:25entire time and potentially these photos, which sort of makes sense why now he looks like this. Man, poor Bill Clinton getting absolutely blindsided by >> um what I'm trying to do here is in the background I'm I'm trying to actually go and get the specific email file out of the original folder um in its original form and we'll see if I can pull that off. Um but we'll let the comedy roll while we do it >> this this morning.
3:57>> What's going on here? Why is everyone acting weird? towards me.
4:00>> No, no, no. We're not. You're chill.
4:02Come on.
4:03>> No, seriously.
4:04>> And it's not just Bill having a rough morning this morning. You've also got some tough conversations going on at the White House with Melania.
4:11>> Are you gay?
4:13>> How you going to ask me a question?
4:14>> So, yeah, it is in the text files in the original in the actual document leak. It is right there. It is for real. Yes. Um, I got it myself.
4:29How do you marry a woman and then turn around and let a man bend you over?
4:38>> Ain't nobody [clears throat] bending me over.
4:41>> Oh, so so you doing the bending?
4:43>> Now, let's jump in and see what the internet had to say because the internet is always undefeated with comedy when it comes to situations like this.
4:56>> [music] >> Little diddy about Bubba and Trump.
5:03[music] Two political rivals that got it on when the lights were off.
5:08>> I wish that bro had done a better job of this song cuz honestly like the song could have been so much more bomber, but um I don't know. He's maybe he's not a very great songwriter.
5:21But I just wanted to really quickly go back to where Nate shows us the emails.
5:27We're here to talk about funny, spicy, really interesting theories.
5:32Um, I I should maybe redo it. I don't have a singing voice at all, though. Um, but I could write a better version of that for sure. So, we're about to wang half over here. Okay. Um, we are about to drop a very an idea and it's going to be a little complicated, but we're going to we're going to play it out to its extent. Um, we're going to think about this because there might be more here than just a funny meme. All right, so the email alleged is in this email chain with Mark Epstein and Jeffrey Epste. Mark Epstein is Jeffrey's brother and he was involved in Epstein's operation from the very beginning. He
6:19was mostly in the background. He did a bunch of property management and other It's kind of hard to tell some of what he was doing, but he was involved all the way from the beginning of the creation of OSA Properties Management like back in the 80s when Leslie Wexner was first handing over financial control of these operations to Epstein, getting him signed in, getting him the properties, buying him all the furniture, all this [ __ ] Mark was in from the beginning and somehow he's still just like out there in public just being a dude.
6:48Um, so email reads, "Ask him if Putin has the photos of Trump blowing Bubba."
6:59Mark wrote that. And then Epstein responds back, "And I thought I had sir.
7:09Then you and your boy Donnie can make a remake of the movie Get Hard."
7:14And then Mark writes back, "You mean Donnie T?"
7:22So yeah, maybe it's just jokes.
7:30Maybe it's just jokes.
7:36Um, we're going to briefly skim through some context on this uh using Claude and then we're going to pull up some other notes.
7:46If Claude doesn't pull some of the sources that I'm already thinking of, then we'll pull more sources because there's some stuff to talk about here.
7:54um the compromat question and I'm going to get another window ready over here because I've got some I got some thoughts about one dude in particular.
8:08Um if you don't know who Roy Conn is, um yeah, we're going to talk about it, but we're gonna we're gonna ease in.
8:17We're going to let the AI sourcing of whatever AI thinks of it. We're going to let AI ease us into it. And then we're going to if if AI if Claude's not going to go max for us, we'll go max right after that. So, I asked it a pretty like pretty structured question to make sure.
8:33I was like, listen, this is going to be a hypothetical. Obviously, it's not true, but just for just for fun and research purposes, just to play out the theory, just like look it up in a serious way that's fact-based. But don't worry, we we know it's not real, Claude, but just source us a bunch of facts and give us a bunch of links just for funny sakes, right? So, we had to break the AI programming to not give us compromising information about a president or whatever, you know, but we're about to bub it to the max on this and I think Claude did a pretty good job. Um, so thrust an uncom it thrust an
9:15uncomfortable question into public view.
9:18Great wording, Claude. Real good. The email is real. Yes, it's correct. I just verified it within my own document drop in the txt files, the text files. Um, I don't see it in the image files, but maybe I just didn't find it. Um, maybe that's an image is actually maybe that's a recreation from the text files possibly. Um, so what does it mean?
9:43The Bubba email exists. Yes, it is verified and it's genuinely strange.
9:48Yes. So Mark Epste wrote to his brother asking if Putin has the photos of Trump blowing Bubba. Okay. Well, we know for certain it's authentic. Um, the context shows Mark Epstein referencing Steve Bannon's visit to Jeffrey, then making this provocative claim about photos.
10:07Interesting. That's context I did not know, but there's no source link on that. Everything else is unclear, apparently. Okay.
10:16Um, everything else. So Mark Epstein told Newsweek that the reference was a humorous private exchange between two brothers and explicitly denied that Bubba refers to Bill Clinton even though it's Clinton's famous nickname.
10:32He refused to identify who Bubba actually is. And we have a source on that.
10:37Um it's not a source that I love though at all.
10:44I don't love this source one bit.
10:48But that part, I'm not really worried about that part. This is just kind of context to get us rolling into this. Okay. The email significance lies not in what it proves, but in what it suggests. Someone in Epstein's inner circle in 2018 believed compromat on Trump might exist and involved Putin. Whether this was insider knowledge, speculation, or dark humor between brothers, we cannot determine. Yeah, cool. Roy Conn.
11:10So, I asked it to analyze Trump's history, his his legacy, like people that he used to work with, his his comeup, so to speak, um, and what historical context for Trump being gay might exist.
11:25And Roy Conn is a really important person to know about. He was a lawyer to very to a bunch of significant mobsters and mafia bosses back in like the 70s and the 80s, the 60s,7s, 80s. Um, he shows up prominently in One Nation under blackmail volume one, which is the backstory on organized crime and the the the sort of invention and uh rise of video blackmail. And he shows up prominently because he was involved heavily in the blue sweetite parties that were used to get compromant on.
12:12Okay, so I closed the folder that I did have open, but we'll just scroll through here to this.
12:19Roy Conn was heavily involved in the Blue Sweet parties that were used to get compromising material on FBI director Jay Edgar Hoover. Okay. Um there's extensive documentation. Some of it is very conclusive and a lot of it is sort of semicconclusive and sort of word of mouth from like like Rosensteel's wife and Cardinal Spelman and um various other people. But we're pretty well certain that Roy Conn was heavily involved in orchestrating these blackmail parties that got the FBI director and a bunch of other prominent figures blackmailed back in like I guess the 40s and 50s. I I forget exactly when the blue sweetheart parties
12:59were prominent. And Roy Conn was a lawyer not for Myeransky specifically, but for a whole bunch of mobsters back in this day. Um, then Roy Conn because he was he was not like a mobster himself. Gosh, I hate it when it maximizes. Roy Conn wasn't like technically like in the mob officially because he was also like a legitimate businessman that was very involved in the McCarthy era, very involved in like the anti-communist uh push and um and he famously took part he was the prosecutor of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg who were a couple of spies for the Soviets that were Jewish and um they're an important piece of the
13:45conversation of Jewish dual loyalty and how a diaspora people has a loyalty question that other people's don't exactly have. Um, it's kind of a side quest though, but Roy Conn was a serious mentor to Donald Trump. There are 62 mentions of Trump on Roy Conn's Wikipedia page.
14:14He represented and mentored Donald Trump during Trump's early business career.
14:18I'm sure there's a whole section on it in here. Legal career in New York.
14:22Representation of Donald Trump.
14:26So in 1971, Trump first undertook large construction projects in Manhattan. In 73, the Justice Department accused Trump of violating the Fair Housing Act in 39 of his properties. The government alleged that Trump's corporation quoted different rental terms and conditions and made false no vacancy statements to black applicants for apartments it managed in Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island. Representing Trump, Con filed a counter suit against the government for $100 million, asserting that the charges were irresponsible and baseless. The countersuit was unsuccessful. Trump settled the charges out of court in
14:561975, saying he was satisfied that the agreement did not compel the Trump Organization to accept persons on welfare as tenants unless qualified as any other tenant.
15:06Um while representing Trump, Con also represented mobster Anthony Serno, who along with other mobsters controlled the concrete unions in New York City. Conn is alleged to have introduced Serno to Trump, which later led to Serno's aiding Trump in the construction of Trump Tower by providing concrete at reduced prices.
15:27In his 1987 book, Art of the Deal, Trump wrote about all the hundreds of respectable guys who made careers out of boasting about their uncompromising integrity, but have absolutely no loyalty. What I liked most about Roy Conn was that he would just do the opposite. He would do just the opposite.
15:42He was a loyal guy.
15:45There's all sorts of reporting about how Trump would call Roy Conn daily, sometimes multiple times a day, um asking for advice, all these things and uh Oh, Gat. No, not Gat.
16:08Not okay. Okay.
16:15So Roy Conn was a closeted gay man who consistently denied his homosexuality throughout his life despite his relationships with men.
16:27Part of the reporting about those Bluee parties involved all these dudes that were closeted gay men crossdressing and having orgies together on camera for blackmail purposes.
16:43And they were also, bit of a tangent here, but they were also a big part of the Lavender Scare at the time, which was it was in this in the Cold War. And the Lavender Scare was like the red scare is like we're afraid of commies.
16:56The lavender scare was we're afraid of gay dudes because if there's gay people in the government, they could be compromised by the Soviets and then they'll get blackmailed by the Soviets.
17:04and Jed Garoover and Roy Conn and a few others were like very big proponents of this Lavender Scare. Ironically, they were closeted gay dudes that were being blackmailed by the mob, which is significant and silly. Um, very very crucial to America's history actually because of how influential Jed Ghouver was.
17:30This is a great article title, right? And so, do you see where I'm going already?
17:40Because once I got got to thinking about it, like I had never considered this before somehow.
17:49With most politicians, like with with a lot of people, it crosses my mind. With a lot of people, like Obama, for example, it's like, "Oh, hey, Big Mike.
17:59That's interesting.
18:01With President Mcronone, it's like, okay, yeah, we kind of she's she's got a dick.
18:07But somehow it had never actually crossed my mind with Trump.
18:16And when you actually start like looking at footage of him and listening to him talk, you uh start to think like, wait a minute, how has no one mentioned this?
18:35And right here, this clip that our boy Nate brings up might get you thinking just a little bit. And then we'll then we'll break break into more of a discussion of what this means and what like sort of like the thought experiment of it all.
18:59>> It's one move in bed that makes a man go crazy every time. Oh, you got to give him that huck to and spit on that knife.
19:05You get me?
19:06>> Just jokes.
19:07>> What I didn't realize is that we should have seen this the entire time simply just by the way he talks because I didn't realize if you actually just uh have a flamboyantly gay man uh lipre anything that he says, it becomes so obvious so quick.
19:25>> Arnold Palmer was all man. And I say that in all due respect to women and I love women, but this guy, this guy, this is a guy that was all man. This man was strong and tough, >> right?
19:42>> And I refuse to say it, but when he took showers with the other pros, they came out of there, they said, "Oh my god, that's unbelievable."
19:55I had to say it, >> right?
19:58>> Keep in mind, [snorts] these are actual real audio clips, by the way.
20:02>> The muscles of this guy.
20:03>> And I know it sounds like a stretch. I know it's a stretch. Don't don't don't approach this conversation if you're skeptical of this. Don't approach this conversation as though like we're saying Trump is gay. That's not what we're saying. What I'm saying is that this is an interesting thought experiment that will help us understand the nature of the blackmail industry regardless if he's gay or not. Okay? So, just like detach yourself from from like this theory having to have a conclusion.
20:29That's not what this conversation is about. Um, you're welcome to, you know, think your own thoughts and come to your own conclusions, but this is going to be an interesting conversation about the pervasiveness of political blackmail using certain methods. And then you look around at the political environment at how many instances of this kind of stuff we have. Um, and it just starts to open your mind up a little bit.
20:56>> Excuse me. Could you stand up? Look at that guy. You and the beautiful white.
20:59>> And actually, the cool thing that I will tease right now is that by the end of this conversation, this is a huge white pill. This is like the best possible like conspiracy theory that you could possibly have right now. And if that doesn't make sense to you yet, trust me, by the end you'll be I think you will be like, "Oh, actually I like there's there's some legs to like if this were true, however likely you think that is, I think it's the best possible outcome to the whole Epstein thing that we could possibly have.
21:30>> Would you look at this guy? Holy mackerel. I'm looking at him."
21:34>> And it's hilarious. Okay.
21:37>> I always wanted to look like that. I just didn't want to do the work. He does love the YMCA.
21:41>> You look good. Don't let anyone stop you. You look good.
21:44>> And yeah, he really talks about kissing men a lot. Which again, I don't know how we didn't see this already.
21:50>> Feel so powerful. I'll walk into that audience. I'll walk in there. I'll kiss everyone in that audience. I'll kiss the guys and the beautiful women and the everybody. I'll just give you a big fat kiss.
22:03>> And one more just for good measure. And you got to give this guy credit. These are actually from like six months ago.
22:08He was way ahead of the curve.
22:10>> And these are real audio clips, by the way. Real audio.
22:15>> I'll kiss every guy. Man and woman. Man and woman. Look at that guy. How handsome he is. I'll kiss him. Not Not with a lot of enjoyment, but that's okay.
22:25>> More signs we weren't paying enough attention to. Where did this >> Yeah, those are those are some clips.
22:32That that that gay dude was on to something. Maybe nothing but um so little context, right? That just I you don't think about those things. Trump displays so much air of bravado and like confidence and he's like the dealmaker and he's like got to be machismo, right?
22:56[snorts] Which could be compensation for something.
23:01But we're not here to speculate just based on Trump's like vibes. Um, we're here to look at connections.
23:09Um, in 1973, 27year-old Donald Trump met 46-year-old Roy Conn at Le Club, an exclusive Manhattan nightclub.
23:23Let's pull the source on that.
23:28That's a hell of a photo.
23:34I want to source this exact claim. So, I'm going to search for the club. Yeah, sorry. NPR.
23:41Um, okay. So, the club isn't mentioned.
23:45Oh, it is. I just Okay, whatever.
23:50But Conn was also quite the man about town. Seen often in fashionable nightclubs of the period. One was Le Club where he first met Donald Trump in 1973.
24:02Regarded as handsome and brash, the 27-year-old from Queens was intent on making his mark in Manhattan. Later that year, Con defended Trump and Trump's father against federal charges that they had systematically excluded blacks and Hispanics from their housing projects.
24:15Um, L Club gay uh 1970s.
24:22I don't know what what turns up with that. I'm just curious.
24:34Oh yeah, the club is to um uh New York.
24:44I highly doubt that the club was literally a gay bar. Um I just wanted to make sure that that wasn't a thing.
24:59Um, let me get the music back too.
25:07Um, so just just think about this is we have a pattern in politics. Think President Mcronone, maybe even think Barack Obama if you want to go there.
25:23I mean, you could even get your full tinfoil hat on and talk about Chuck Schumer, but with powerful gay men, there's often a grooming relationship. Just to be blunt about it, there's often a older gay grooming man involved in people's gay exploration. Okay?
25:46It's just it's just a thing. And so the age gap, the friendship, the closeness is notable, right? And it's important to note, I've actually talked about this part of the theory for a long time, that Roy Conn was deeply entwined in the blackmail world. He understood the blackmail networks in America at that era better than almost anyone.
26:12And so at the very least I think that Trump probably learned about the blackmail networks from Con because if you are a rising powerful real estate tycoon that wants to make it as a big shot, Trump's ego is obviously enormous.
26:27That's a thing you're going to learn from Roy.
26:30That's that mentorship that Roy was giving him is how power really works.
26:34It's not like he was just advising him on law. They were talking every day, right? And then Trump gets friends with Epstein, too.
26:42Trump is clearly swimming in those circles in his earlier years, right? And I had often often speculated for quite some time now that maybe Trump wasn't blackmailed so much as he was a black mailer possibly because he clearly had all these friends. He clearly had this mentorship. He clearly like he bought here. Check this out. More than 37 years ago. 1988. March 27th, 1988. More than 37 years ago. Let me uh pull this over for you.
27:12New York developer Donald Trump has added New York's Posh Plaza Hotel to his real estate empire at a cost of 390 million and plans to upgrade the 81-year-old landmark to five-star status.
27:26Um, I've seen reporting I'm curious if they'll mention it. I've seen reporting that he kind of financially overextended himself to buy it.
27:38He paid 210 million for the real estate, which included a small apartment building next door, and 180 million for the plaza and its contents, the time said.
27:49Um, so it had been owned by Western Hotels and Resort Chain from the Allegis Corporation.
28:05So this hotel is a famous blackmail location where Roy Conn himself is the foremost expert on what blackmail was going down there because Roy Conn had been orchestrating the Blue Sweet parties in part, right? And then his mentee Trump buys that hotel later.
28:28But that's not all.
28:32Trump buys Adnan Kashogi's yacht.
28:49Donald Trump once bought a $200 million yacht from Jamal Kosigible's famed arms dealer uncle Anan Koshogi.
28:57Anan Kosigible was good friends with Epstein early on early on. He was a famous arms trafficker and probably other trafficker too, especially back in the 80s, 70s and 80s. And he was famous for having his boat wired up with cameras to acquire blackmail during arms deals and other business arrangements where he would have the boat filled with women and all you can anything drugs whatever people wanted. He had it and he filmed it and Trump bought that that specific yacht.
29:33So, he's bought two different known blackmail locations, so to speak, in his history. and he was mentored by one of the key architects of the modern black male industry and world.
29:56Roy Conn, who was a closeted gay man famous for his cross-dressing gay orgy blackmail parties.
30:06[snorts] And so for a long time, I had thought, hey, like Trump doesn't drink, he doesn't part, like he doesn't smoke, he doesn't do drugs allegedly, although there is a funny funny email about if Trump does coke or not. [clears throat] And so come on guys, Peter Teal is the first gay president.
30:24And so I had thought, hey, maybe he was one of the black mailers that swam in those circles that got too big for his britches and decided he wanted to be big boy president and then, you know, started running for president, trying to trying to cement his legacy. And so maybe that's why he's sort of embroiled in the Epstein scandal, but no one can really pin any dirt on him. And maybe that I thought for a while maybe that was why the Democrats were making up fake ass Russian PP tapes instead of having actual Epstein blackmail for him because that was kind of weird that they just didn't have any Epstein blackmail
30:55for the longest time. But I think we're starting to see the nature of why none of it got used or came out.
31:02[clears throat] Yeah, Roy Conn was involved in the JFK assassination and Everything is a rich man's trick is a hell of a movie to watch. Um, absolutely. I love that film.
31:13Okay, so for the next 13 years after they met until Con's death in 1986, they were inseparable. And real quick, I want to just look [snorts] at his death, which reputation, sexual blackmail allegations, um personal life, disparment, and death.
31:41Yeah, that's what I thought. I didn't want to say it without without checking it, but he died of AIDS.
31:47Um, possibly he died of ACT. Actually, Fouch's famous.
31:53So, things all tie back around, right?
31:57Kind of ironic that Trump is partnering with Dr. Fouchi, Mr. Act, when his favorite mentor was probably killed by.
32:07Um, Christine Seymour confirmed that Trump called Con 15 to 20 times daily.
32:20Daily apparently.
32:22Okay. They dined together regularly, socialized at Studio 54, and Trump described Con as one of the most loyal friends I've ever had.
32:36Mr. Macho Trump, his best friend in the world that he called. What man calls another man 15 to 20 times daily?
32:44Maybe your coworker that's like your literal business partner.
32:51Or maybe a guy that likes to talk on the phone with other guys.
32:59And yeah, Shake, you are correct that there is a Wikipedia source cited there.
33:03But this uh this claim has been very thoroughly vetted um by lots of different people and lots of different journalists over time. This is not the first time that I've seen this claim. Um a because it's about Trump, it has been it has been recycled and re-examined and reassessed many many times. And there are lots of places that you can find this cited.
33:25And just for the sake of it, I'm going to do a side citation over here on my own outside of AI because we should, you know, don't just trust AI. Um, so right there, Vanity Fair reporting the same quote behind a payw wall a little bit.
33:52All sorts of news agencies have covered this ad nauseium and obviously like maybe it wasn't 15 maybe it was only 13 times one day but we have pretty clear evidence from Donald himself. He's talked about this a lot. Okay. That he called Roy a lot. Okay.
34:14They dined together regularly. They socialized all the time. One of the most loyal friends he's ever had. Mob lawyer.
34:20closeted gay man that liked gay cross-dressing sex orgy blackmail parties. That was Trump's mentor. Self admitted.
34:31Okay.
34:34So it kind of makes you think just about how do closeted gay men act especially if they are have a machismo sort of a image that they have to maintain.
34:55And how do people that know the truth treat that man?
34:59They kind of laugh at them quietly behind the scenes, but they also know that they're dangerous in the front front of the scenes, right?
35:07Maybe.
35:10And one of the endearing like endearing questions of this whole thing is why doesn't Jeffrey Epstein have a bunch of video blackmail of Trump?
35:22If you're familiar with Jeffrey Epstein's profile, you would know that Jeffrey Epstein was specifically a trafficker of young girls and he specifically catered to the clientele that wanted young girls.
35:44There were other black mailers for Young Boys and there were plenty, but that's a different that's a different set of traffickers, a different set of pimps. And from all that we know, it [clears throat] seems like the black bail industry works where you set up the the pimp, so to speak, if you know, I can't think of a better word for Epstein in this case. you set up the pimp to run the the ring that aligns with their sexual preferences.
36:20So, for example, uh Mike Jeff, who was the CEO of Abbercrombie and Fitch, a different Leslie Wexner company, right? Jeffrey Epste was the executive of his estate, had power of attorney.
36:32He didn't officially work for Victoria's Secret, but he presented as a Victoria Secret recruiter so that he could recruit young girls. Mike Jeff was a similar thing for Abberrombie and Fitch with the Young Boys. And we have a whole case file from his court documents that got dismissed because he has Alzheimer's now. And he was trafficking all these young boys over to Europe and having these really effed up parties where he was promising modeling jobs if you'll just get locked in this room with me and let me and my old rich friends do whatever we want with you for a while.
37:04It's super effed up.
37:07really dark read that that court document.
37:11And so we see a pattern where the pimps get put in charge of rings that play to their sexual preferences, which makes sense because they have to be all up in it. And they want they want to get off because they're perverts, right?
37:32And so why doesn't Jeffrey Epstein's files have a whole bunch of video of Trump?
37:39But they were good friends and Trump was allegedly over there all the time. And Virginia Def Fray alleged that Trump never did anything untowards.
37:47She directly alleged that. And so when the Democrats put out their three screenshots trying to make it look like Trump had spent hours in the room alone with this victim, but then we find out it's Virginia Defra and she specifically claimed in court that Trump was always kind to her and never did anything untowards.
38:12That would make sense, right?
38:17Trump also bought beauty pageantss um and was like walking into the dressing rooms and made all these weird comments.
38:27I I do find it hard to believe that Trump has never had sexual relations with women. I I find it hard to believe that he has nothing going on over there.
38:38But just from now on, just look at Melani and his interactions and look at look at his life story and his interactions. Look at his ex-wife and how she died, right? Am I getting this wrong? How I haven't actually I haven't actually done this dig in any depth yet.
39:07Yeah. From blunt impact injuries to her torso sustained in an accidental accident accidental fall down a flight of stairs.
39:22in 2022 somewhere between Trump one and Trump two.
39:42I mean, this doesn't prove anything, but Trump one was a very different presidency and term than Trump 2. And Trump 2's term happens to be paired with a bunch of releases of like blackmail threats and scandals and stuff around it all. And the Epstein files are coming out and it kind of feels like a controlled release that we're a little the timing is a little curious.
40:14But still there's no evidence of him actually like there's no proof of him doing anything with any girls.
40:23So it's a weird comment for Mark Epstein and Jeffrey Epste to make a joke about.
40:32So obviously that doesn't prove anything and obviously you should think for yourself and come to your own conclusion about the percentage likelihood that that might be the case. But I would just remind you which I remind myself frequently that a lot of things that seemed impossible over the years we got evidence of it happening there and happening there and happening there and happening there like in Hollywood. It was inconceivable 20 years ago that Hollywood would be controlled by a cabal that will like literally give you pneumonia and kill you if you step out of line. That they have handlers that
41:07will send you to the looney bin if you step out of line. That Hollywood is a bunch of controlled messaging. And then we find all these blackmail rings running in Hollywood. And we find all these examples of literal handlers with actual evidence that this is actually happening.
41:21Okay.
41:26And a lot of them are related to, you know, celebrities that died of pneumonia kind of things, weird pneumonia.
41:34And so, just keep in mind while you determine your percentages of likelihood to keep an open mind because more and more we are realizing that all of these um pieces of the world that we thought we trusted were fake and gay. Okay.
41:56But the more interesting part of the conversation to me is not whether or not Trump is gay. The more interesting part of the conversation to me is the complexities of the blackmail world.
42:08Because just imagine, do this thought experiment with me. Imagine that Trump is gay and that imagine that the blackmail that controls him is not that he did anything untowards with Jeffrey Epstein and his girls. Imagine that the blackmail was not in Jeffrey Epste's hands because Jeffrey Epste was not a purveyor of the goods that Trump was looking for. If that were true, I mean, we would still have to worry about if there's underage boys, but let's imagine that there's no underage boys. Let's imagine that it's all grown men, and that's the situation here. And that that is blackmail. And whether it's
42:48Clinton or it's other people, imagine that there's blackmail out there, that there are gay things with adult gay men.
42:56That would be awesome.
43:00That would be awesome. It would obviously depend a lot, but that would be like like honestly I don't [ __ ] care. If you're like super super conservative and Christian and all that, like yeah, you might care. But I don't care if Trump had done gay stuff with grown men in the past and he's trying to hide that and he's ashamed of that and doesn't want his like image to be compromised.
43:26I think that the vast majority of Americans would [ __ ] get over it in 5 days. It would be a big scandal and everyone would mock him and all the Democrats would try to make it this biggest thing, but like ultimately that would be hollow because Democrats are the progay party and ultimately the Republicans would be like, "See, there's no kids involved. It's all good." And the thing about blackmail that's really complex that I think a lot of us haven't thought through enough is that blackmail only has power as long as there's fear of its release and as long as there's taboo around the thing that is
43:58blackmailing you. If you're blackmailed over a secret that's not illegal, you're just embarrassed by it, like you like you like to watch some weird porn or something and someone blackmails you over that, then like that has only has power over you as long as you need it to be kept secret and want it to be kept secret. But it's it's the fear of release that is the blackmail, right?
44:20And so that's why with Jeffrey Epstein, the blackmail is not like that you cheated on your wife. The blackmail is that you were with [music] children, with underage people, and that's unforgivable. And so in the case of it being children, if Trump were blackmailed for doing things with children, that's unforgivable, and he needs to be condemned for that and punished for that. But you also need to condemn the black mailer, which is Israel. Okay? We need to not lose sight that with this whole Epstein scandal, the real villain is Israel and the operation that built this thing and the black mailers and the procurers, the
44:56pimps, the groomers, they are the ones that need the real condemnation. But the John's all need condemnation, too, because they were diddling kids.
45:08But if the blackmail is just gay stuff with adults, honestly, like you don't actually really need to condemn the person that did that quite so much and you can jump straight to just condemning the black mailer, right?
45:30And suddenly you would wind up in an environment where that's a very touchy p piece of blackmail to wield because it's a blackmail card that you can't actually really play. You can threaten it. Like I can tell Trump like I'm going to release it. You don't want me to release it.
45:53But if you really think about it, everyone except for Trump would be like, "Yeah, [ __ ] release it, dog. Let's get this over with. let's get this over with and get our [ __ ] president back.
46:02You see what I'm saying? Because Trump would be the only one worried about that and Melania and his family. But like we would all be like, "Thank God. Just [ __ ] get it out there so we can all have a good laugh for a week and then get our [ __ ] country back because once it's out there, it has no more power.
46:20The problem is he is bought." You are right. But the problem with blackmail is that that when it's with children, that is truly condemnable. And then you have to tear everything apart and you have to actually like go after your the people that are blackmailed and the black mailers. And it would be really easy for the black mailers to slip away into the fog of you did kids. We should condemn you, which is true. But we also need to always condemn the black mailers, too, because they're ultimately the ones grooming, trafficking, and abusing these children on behalf of a foreign nation for blackmail purposes.
46:56Right?
46:58So, I don't say any of that to say that we know anything about Trump's sexual orientation or activities. I don't say any of that to say that we're ever going to get our country back or to say that Trump, even if the blackmail came out, wouldn't still be bought and paid for by the Jewish Zionist donors. I just say that to get us thinking a little bit about the nuances and complexities of the situation and to just hopefully open your minds up a little bit to realize that we don't know what's going on and there's a bunch of weird [ __ ] that's going on that does not make sense right now.
47:32The enduring question around Epste and Trump has always been that if Trump was blackmailed by Epstein, how did the Democrats never get a hold of any of it and try to use some of it selectively like they just did with some of these emails where they tried to redact a name and release a few of them but not all of them to try to do a controlled attack on it. They literally paid for a fake dossier from a fake source to try to implicate that he like did some pee pe stuff in Russia.
48:01And it was hollow. It was completely hollow and it was completely debunked.
48:04And they burned the reputation to the ground over it, reporting on it for years, but they never got any Epstein kind of stuff on him. And yeah, he was very friendly with Epste, very involved, and there's a lot of like speculation. He's obviously mentioned all the time. He's in these emails obviously because he was in those circles and he did swim with these people. And we do have questions, but it doesn't it's not happening in the way that I would expect it to happen personally if it was just Trump didd girls with Epstein.
48:36That's my opinion. And I don't know what it means, but this stuff was the first time where it kind of like stopped me and made me think a little harder and realize that like, oh, how did I never consider that option, that possibility?
48:50Because we know very well by now, if you are actually doing your research, we know that closeted gay men make excellent politicians for the deep state. They [ __ ] love closeted gay men that they can bone, so to speak, because those people are the most controllable. Those people will do anything for you cuz they already are into some weird [ __ ] probably.
49:19Yeah, like certain ones like Lindsay, right?
49:26And so you've already got them by the balls, so to speak.
49:32And many of them got there by being groomed into that in the first place.
49:36Think Emanuel Mcronone.
49:42So yeah, think about it cuz A, it's funny and we need to laugh and B, it kind of makes a little bit of sense.
49:57And just watch Trump's video. Watch Trump how he acts and watch Melania.
50:01What just watch just and we'll see. I'm not convinced, but at this point I'm at like a reasonable probability.
50:10Like I think there's probably almost as high of a probability of this theory as the probability that it's just like straight up he's blackmailed exactly the same way that the other Epstein victims were because we have not really seen what that should look like if that was the case.
50:27How about the speaker of the house Mike Johnson? Oh, I think yeah Trudeau. Oh, I think way more than just them. I mean, I think a lot of people in organizations like Turning Point USA, and I think a lot of people in organizations like the other alt News, right, organizations, especially on the right, doesn't work so well on the left, but on the right.
50:53Oh, yeah.
50:55Yeah. This is the modus operandi for these people.
51:01Gay Kabuki Theater.
51:03Yeah, I didn't say the Daily Wire outright, but and to be clear, I'm not saying that Ben Shapiro is gay because Ben Shapiro is Jewish [laughter] and I think he has a different relationship with that company than what we're talking about here. My personal opinion, just a just speculation.
51:27Um I mean, he's gay. He's He's like [ __ ] and and all that, but I I don't know if he's gay.
51:38Um, so yeah, I just thought it was an interesting conversation. I thought it was weird that we've never thought of this before, or at least I've never thought of this before.
51:51Yeah. The pastors for TPUSA.
51:54Yeah. And think of a lot of pastors, a lot of high up celebrity Christians that get elevated into power, government and business probably in the military because there's a long G tradition going back to the Romans and Greeks even of gay leadership in the military and grooming.
52:21Yeah, I'm seeing some names in the chat that I'm not going to read out loud, but just think about it.
52:32That would be enough to collapse the current paradigm and change the whole planet.
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