0:01All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. I have to say that I got such a chuckle out of this comment from yesterday's episode. This user wrote this. He said, "Imagine being sentenced to death because you happen to be wearing Converse sneakers." Yeah, that's apparently a thing now. Sorry guys.
0:19Welcome to Trump's America.
0:21Unfortunately, it just be like that. Yo, you should have worn your second favorite sneakers. What do I have for you guys today? Other than this uh unnecessarily gay photo of Blake Nef and Jeremy Boring, which they consciously selected, that's what makes it so funny.
0:38They consciously selected this photo to promote their upcoming sitdown, which will undoubtedly be about me. Tucker Carlson said, just look at the photo.
0:46Why would any person willingly post this and expect it not to trend on X for being gay, which it is at this moment?
0:53It's trending on X just for being gay.
0:55The memes are exceptional. I never thought that we would see fake and gay so beautifully demonstrated in the wild like that. And what did the dog that's in the middle? What did he do? Deserve that? Somebody get PETA? I have a lot of questions. Fortunately, comedian and political commentator Bobby Saucelito has some answers with the most accurate prediction about what this episode is about. We're going to get to that, but first I want to jump back into the Dodge Challenger narrative because you guys noted something that I did not and because we of course have more footage from September 10th to reveal to you. We
1:32are just going to keep going until maternity leave. Welcome back to Candace.
1:52So, at first regarding yesterday's footage, a lot of you guys commented something which I can't believe I didn't notice at first, which is how many attempts this driver makes to park the car in an empty lot. We showed you that footage yesterday of another Dodge Challenger. There are no constraints in this parking lot. And yet he's coming at us like Austin Powers. Uh remember this scene from Austin Powers? He just tries to park the vehicle that he's in. And you could just look at this. Um it's kind of incredible. You guys are so right.
2:31What is going on? This is This is not okay.
2:37Almost gets out and fixes it.
2:41It's absurd. How did I not notice this?
2:46Like four four attempts there. Five attempts.
2:52What's happening here? Okay, we got there.
2:58And you guys asked a very valid question. Is this your car, sir? Or is it a rental? Because that's how we park when we are not at all used to the car that we are driving. or if we are a female and we are parallel parking.
3:12That's kind of the only other time that you should see that sort of behavior in the wild. It is weird. He makes over three to four attempts there. Thank you guys for pointing that out and making that observation. I also would like to address a lot of you car people who emailed us yesterday making us aware that there is a difference in the body on the Dodge Challenger uh which was towed and has since been identified as Tyler Robinson's Dodge Challenger and the Dodge Challenger which we are showing you in the administrative lot.
3:41Yes, you guys, we are aware of that. We are not suggesting these are the same cars. Uh it's it's actually a point that we're trying to make here which I I want to make it even more clear. We do not think that the person who gets out of this car is the same person that is in the garage at the same time. So, just to reiterate everything because it's really important, what we demonstrated yesterday is that two different Grey Dodge Challengers arrived to campus within 20 minutes of one another. Okay?
4:10And then they both stay on campus approximately a little over an hour u a little under two hours before they leave around the same time. Okay? Dodge Challenger number one we know is connected to the maroon boy who is moving throughout the parking garage structure. Dodge Challenger number two, which we presented yesterday, is connected to the admin lot, technically the admissions lot. I'm big on giving people code names because I think it just helps me remember. I hope it also helps you guys back at home remember.
4:40We're going to actually um name the person who is operating the second Dodge Challenger, Waluigi, because that's that's the only veto game I play. And he has exceptionally tall legs and he looks to me like he's shaped like Waluigi.
4:52Okay, it's a physical trait that we can easily identify and it will stick in our minds. Okay, now let's look at our two guys side by side. So, we have Maroon Boy and Waluigi on campus at the same time. The crucial thing for you to remember is that we have actually no idea what either of these two people did for an approximate hour and a half on campus. All we got from the pre preliminary hearing is that Maroon Boy parked went up to a Turning Point USA employee and asked her if this is where the event was going to be held.
5:26Okay, that's that's one question that you're asking. We know that he's on campus for over an hour. What did he do for the rest of the time? There is actually no narrative that's been provided. By the way, yesterday, I do want to issue a slight correction.
5:41Yesterday, we wrongly showed you on the timeline um that this was during a time where he then went and visited a wooded area off campus. That's actually incorrect. And the mistake is not technically our fault. Ashley, my producer, who has been assisting me on our official timeline, was inputting data which was provided by the police in their search warrants which were filed on September 15th. Whereas I was using the testimony from lead SBI agent David Hull from the preliminary hearing. Silly us, we forgot how many times the feds have changed their official story since September. More on that later because I
6:17at first really want to drive this point home via an overexlanation as to why a second Dodge Challenger is relevant and problematic. Okay, so during this early morning, so between 8:30 and 9:33 is the only time frame that we are going to be shown a Dodge Challenger from the prosecution. Okay. After Maroon Boy exits campus at 9:33 a.m. in that Dodge Challenger, which we have revealed is around the same time that Waluigi exits campus, he's going to leave 17 minutes later at about 9 9:50. For the rest of prosecution eternity, we are going to be asked to simply use our imagination regarding the Dodge Challenger. There's
6:58no proof. There's no evidence. We're going to be asked to simply make assumptions on how it might connect to the person that eventually comes on to campus wearing a black shirt with an American flag cry walking. So, I want you to understand there is a difference between what you have actually been shown and what they are asking you to just imagine. Agent Hull doesn't even so much as try to suggest that they tracked Maroon Boy Dodge Challenger off campus.
7:25He doesn't suggest that they saw him changing outfits. It's just a blank that they're asking you to fill in. There's no evidence. They just assume that he parked on campus. They assume he got just dressed, changed his clothes, wore a black shirt because Converses.
7:46Okay. So, I'm asking how did they rule out that it wasn't Waluigi? Maybe Waluigi parked off campus and you can just make an assumption that he's the one that returned back in a black shirt.
7:56Maybe he switched into some Converses.
7:58Maybe he's already wearing Converses.
8:01Maybe the Maroon Boy really did just want to know where the event was going to be. And maybe that Maroon Boy was actually among the crowd when Charlie Crick was speaking. If you didn't track a specific Dodge Challenger off of campus, how are we to accept a blur that the blurry person that you are deeming guilty is the correct person?
8:23How was he guilty of anything? Actually, they have not presented a single piece of evidence that we can even reasonably infer upon. There are no photos or videos of an identifiable Dodge Challenger parked off campus. And if you were hoping that maybe, just maybe, we would be able to see the Dodge Challenger, which we were told returned after midnight, pulled up to Officer Go forth after committing the crime of the century, asked had a little conversation with Go forth, you'd be wrong again. They've never indicated that he had on body cam footage. Then there is the case of Miss Noble, the neighbor who observed what is
9:00supposed to be that same Dodge Challenger shortly after Go forth saw it. Uh she's her and her husband see it parked in their neighborhood. She claims that the Dodge Challenger was being driven by a bald person who had two people in the back seat. Obviously the footage is dark. You can't identify um the Dodge Challenger. Did officer go forth see two other people in the back seat. How do we know that that wasn't the a different Dodge Challenger or third Dodge Challenger or fourth Dodge Challenger? Everything is just one big extrapolation. They're just going off vibes. And by the way, there is a specific reason that I am bringing up
9:35Waluigi to you. I just want you to park that in the back of your mind. It's going to become more relevant in future episodes. But for today, and because I am held to a higher standard than the prosecution, I'd like to present even more evidence, a fact that was quite mysteriously omitted when lead agent Hull talked us through the Tyler Robinson sizzle reel. Right. His testimony that he gave over the footage registered to me as remarkably rehearsed. Like they put that scissor reel together. They got him in there and they were like, "Okay, pick up the pace.
10:09Keep talking over it. Just keep Okay, we're going to do it again. Talk over it. Talk over it. This is what you got to do when we get to the stand." There's no reason for them to make it a sizzle reel. There's absolutely no reason for them to create a sizzle reel and have him talk over it. Even the pace at which he's speaking, it's like he's an auctioneer. That was meant to confuse people. your brain was trying to make sense of what he was saying versus what your eyes were observing, what you were hearing versus what you were seeing. And at times we went back and realized those two things were in conflict with one
10:38another.
10:40The end result is that we were intentionally led to believe that Maroon Boy arrived onto campus, pulled into the parking structure, parked, exited his vehicle, and then walked down near the amphitheater to find a TPUSA rep.
10:57And maybe that's the truth, but I can tell you today that it's certainly not the whole truth. Because the whole truth is that actually after Maroon Boy arrives in that Dodge Challenger, what he does at first is he goes to the very tippity top of the parking garage where there are no cars around, where there is no cover. And then he waits for approximately 8 minutes in his car. Take a look. And obviously I'm not going to play the full eight minutes here, but I am going to show you this.
11:33A maroon shirt and he sits there for approximately eight minutes. And when I actually punch in as close as I can to look at what he's doing, there's only one time where I observe what and I'm going to show you that what looks to me like he's I don't know maybe picking up something down by his feet. We can show you that here we're punching in. So you can see that.
12:13See that head kind of goes missing downward.
12:21That's across approximately eight minutes of footage of him sitting up there.
12:27Okay.
12:29Now, I'm going to show you him leaving there as well. So, you just just fill there's nothing else that happens. He's just there.
13:00Okay, I'll ask the obvious question here. Why not mention that?
13:07Why not mention that? Why not say what he did? Well, we know is that he parked um at the top first and then for eight minutes he was on top of the parking structure. So then he came down and then he parked on a lower level and then he came out and he walked over to the amphitheater.
13:28Why not mention that?
13:31Agent Hull, we can only speculate. And you know what? I'm I'm feeling pretty speculative today. I I think we should all think while it's still legal to do so. And my thoughts are that it's because this little episode of him pulling into the garage was intended because they needed that crucial footage of the Dodge Challenger captured onto camera at a specific pre-planned time. They wanted all of this captured on camera. There was no reason. Everybody knows if you want to be seen, go into a parking garage.
14:11There is no reason that Tyler Robinson didn't just park off campus for the entire day. In fact, here's what's stunning. I mentioned this yesterday.
14:21The TMZ footage, which they, for some reason, omitted, actually shows him earlier. Clearly, he is already parked off campus. It's 8:07 a.m. The TMZ footage, let's watch this, is from 8:07 a.m. He is seen walking toward campus.
14:44So, he's parked somewhere off campus, walking toward campus, and we're never shown how he then what? Sprints back to his car or something.
14:55And they don't want to address it. They don't want to bring up this footage in court.
15:01Yeah, because it brings forth the obvious question. If at 8:07 he was already parked off campus and walking through the neighborhood, why wouldn't he just keep his car parked off campus? Why bring it on campus at all? That seems like a safer bet not to get caught. I say it's because the car was meant to be seen. That was the decoy boy's literal job was to make sure that this car gets captured on camera throughout the parking structure. Um, now you're probably thinking, why go to the top of the parking garage for eight minutes at all? I can't be entirely sure. Of course, my common sense tell me that it's because he was
15:38doing something in the car that he wanted to make sure neighboring vehicles and passerby, people walking through a busy parking structure. It was a busy parking structure below. He was doing something he didn't want someone to see.
15:50Maybe putting on white high socks. I don't know. Maybe he's putting on the athletic shorts. Maybe he's taken off the athletic shorts. I don't know.
16:00My opinion though, I can say on the basis of the shifting narratives is this. I have always maintained that I believe Tyler Robinson was involved with something on that day, that he played a role, that he was around campus. I do not believe he had anything to do with the actual killing of Charlie Kirk, but I reckon that he could be guilty of uh tampering with evidence. We've said that since the beginning because we broke the story that Tyler Robinson was seen at the Dairy Queen and what was communicated was that he was throwing out clothes in the cemetery nearby. A story which I stand by and which has
16:35never been formally addressed or denied.
16:38By the way, I want to say if you know more about this story, particularly about the cemetery, uh we'd love to hear from you. Please email us more tips@canniswowens.com.
16:48I'd like I'd like a cemetery followup.
16:50Maybe you're a police officer. You know more about that. Where what's up with the Dairy Queen? I think Tyler Robinson's car was, like I said, used around campus, possibly driven by his boyfriend, Lance. I certainly do not buy the story of Lance sleeping through the entire day. That does not track for me at all. I think if you're in a relationship with someone, you could very easily ask them to use their car, bring you up to campus, and you'd listen to that person. I do not believe a Tyler Robinson ever changed on September 10th into a black long sleeve shirt shirt featuring an American flag. I do not
17:26believe a Tyler Robinson was ever up on the Loy rooftop. And um I I'm going to present in the future some more evidence as to why I don't believe that. And I certainly do not believe that the Converse sneakers are convincing enough evidence to put somebody to death. I don't think that proves otherwise. I think mo multiple students could have been wearing Converse sneakers on that day. I also think it's plausible that there was a morning meeting that happened at UVU. Can I say that and put that out there? I think there could have been a morning meeting that happened at UVU ahead of what was in my opinion a
18:04very carefully planned assassination. I think Miss Noble, uh, the neighbor and her husband were telling the truth when she said that she saw a bald man and two other people in a Dodge Challenger uh, early in the morning on September 11th.
18:20I suspect that those people were driving a rental car, and my best evidence is that no one seems to be able to keep their story straight, least of all the feds. Uh, in the early days, we were told that Charlie's killer changed clothes in the rooftop, that the screwdriver was found with the gun in the woods, not on the rooftop. That got changed. Suddenly, nobody was changing on the rooftop. The screwdriver was on the roof chop rooftop. Uh, bizarrely also, which I mentioned earlier, on September 15th, so that's days after Tyler Robinson was taken in and a full 5 days after the FBI had time to gather
18:57and review the campus footage, they filed a warrant in which they detailed specifically that the maroon boy went to the wooded area between 8:28 a.m. and 9:24 a.m. That's why we had it wrong in the timeline. was from the warrants that they filed after having reviewed the footage. They're going to say that they say agent Mortensson, remember his job was to collect all the footage, reviewed Utah Valley University security video and discovered Robinson's challenger enter a UVU parking structure located on campus drive at approximately 800 West at 8:28 a.m. After entering the structure, Robinson parked and exited
19:37his vehicle.
19:39I think that's a lie by omission.
19:42He went to the rooftop for 8 minutes and walked around campus until 9:24 a.m.
19:49when he returned to his car. In the video, Robinson is seen wearing a ball cap, a red t-shirt, light colored shorts, and Converse style tennis shoes.
19:58During the time that Robinson walked around the campus, he is seen visiting areas such as a wooded area near where a rifle is later discovered and the site where the victim was shot. Robinson leaves the parking structure in his vehicle at approximately 9:32.
20:15That entire narrative changes by the time the preliminary hearing goes down.
20:19Just so you guys know, it's a it's a total narrative shift. Lead SBI agent David Hull now claims that Maroon Boy did no such thing in that first hour. He actually came to campus, checked in with the TPUSA rep, and then he departed to campus at 9:24 um until he returns on foot. Now he no longer has his Dodge Challenger at 10:09 a.m. And he heads to Chick-fil-A, sits down, he eats Chick-fil-A, and then he goes to walk around campus to the wooded area where the gun will eventually be found. And then he departs campus again and um this time he departs at around 11:00 a.m. because it's time to play Wordle and he gets a good score. He
21:01plays Wordle off campus, sends that score to his friends at 11:28 and then he changes back into his clothes. I don't know. Maybe you were not allowed to play Wordle on campus. I don't know why that was necessary.
21:12And then he changes into that black shirt with an American flag again. Use your imagination. We have no evidence of that. And then he get puts on some jeans and he returns again to commit the first crime he's ever committed in his life, which happens to be capital murder. The narrative itself is so patently stupid and unnecessary that it reads to me like they were finding holes in their own narrative and they had to just keep adjusting as time went on. That's what the warrants read like as well. Like there was this pre-planned narrative and then they had to adjust it because a new piece of evidence was uncovered that
21:45would dispute it. For example, like Miss Noble suddenly calling in and saying, "I saw the this Dodge Challenger and it's had this bald man." They're like, "Oh crap. Well, we said that the Dodge Challenger thing happened at this time, so we're just going to have to update this." Which they did. They updated the time three times. That the Dodge Challenger was in front of Miss Noble's house, despite the fact that it's on surveillance. That time gets adjusted three times across three different warrants.
22:12It's crazy.
22:15Nothing we are told makes rational sense. Charlie Kirk, I regret to inform you, did not have a neck of steel. And even if he did, a 300 6 would have passed through it. That's just reality. There was no miracle that happened on that day wherein his neck stopped a 300 6.
22:37Actually, we can just assert that he simply was not shot by a 300 6. He potentially was not even shot at all.
22:43That's where I'm at. That's my opinion based off of all the evidence that I have seen thus far that an explosive is much more likely.
22:51And then there's the case of the Woodberry building in general, which we should talk more about. Maybe we'll do that tomorrow. There was a lot of people who early on kept saying that they thought that they saw things happening on top of the Woodberry built building.
23:04There was also um obviously that is the admissions lot. That's where admissions would be. There was also that person that was arrested who was taking photos outside of the Woodbury building that nobody really talks about anymore uh the very next day who was wearing a medical coat because he was um that's what he wore for work.
23:26But there's also another fact about the Woodbury building that most people don't know because we never really discussed it. We didn't know what it meant.
23:33Remember in the very very very early days of um early hours really of the assassination, people saw that plane which used to be owned in Romania.
23:44Shocking, the N88 plane and uh Chellain and Derek Maxfield. It was their plane.
23:51They had to come out and give a statement. Um she ran a makeup company which was called Sapria.
23:58And then uh they also started this charity to help people to help kids that were trafficked, right? And they came out and they said yes or people thought that maybe the person who killed Charlie Kirk was on that plane. They came out and said no, that's not true. But they there was they were kind of in the hot seat for a moment. Well, what people don't know is that they actually shared ownership of that plane uh with a couple last name B Aum Bomb who had given $5 million to UVU and who operated their business center. They operated their program. That's what they got for their $5 million, a business program. And they
24:40operated that program outside out of the the Woodbury building. Um, and so that's just an interesting little, not suggesting anything that they did anything wrong, but everyone was looking at the Maxfield owners and there was another owner, uh, the Bomb family were partial owners of that plane and they do have a presence at the Woodbury building because they have a program for entrepreneurs. In fact, I should find that program. See if I can find that for you when we come back for break.
25:06Wood, let me find this. Woodbury building UVU. They gave a a $5 million donation. The Woodbury Business Building, Scotty Keller building.
25:23I will get that for you when we are um on break. Actually, we can uh it's actually BA, let me correct that.
25:29Chelsea and Casey Ba B A U G H donated $5 million to UVU. And um that donation was at the end of the year going into 2025. Um and yeah, they have an entrepreneurship institute that was located in the Woodbury building and they were partial owners of that plane.
25:51Again, doesn't mean anything at all.
25:54It's just some another fact, something a thread that can be pulled at. And um but I thought that it was important to sort of reintroduce the topic of the Woodbury building because there was a lot of people early on who emailed me about it and some things students that they said that they thought that they saw in or around that building and it would be great if those people could reach back out to us at more tips@candis.com.
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29:12Okay, so like we shared at the top, the photo is extraordinarily gay for no reason. Gay people are legitimately upset by how gay it is. They've been all over. What is this? It's too much. Here it is. Now, we have made it very clear to you that Jeremy Boring, former CEO of a Daily Wire, I can't believe this person used to be my boss, is in fact more like a Jeffrey Dmer character cosplaying as a political commentator.
29:37He's in some career purgatory. He doesn't know what to do with his life.
29:39He's tried many things, all of them failures. And secretly, not really secretly, kind of publicly blames me for the fact that he failed from that time he was cosplaying as a corporate CEO and said that he was going to be like Walt Disney. Okay. So, he just fixates. It's permanent background noise that's in my life is Jeremy's fixation on me. And whatever it is I'm talking about is topic that he then covers. I go Catholic. He wants to have a priest on to try to get him to say, "Come on, say something about Candace." All right. We already showed you this from his fake podcast where he he's really just
30:10stalking me, but pretending that he has ideas around stalking me. These are real thumbnails that like since this podcast, it hasn't been out for very long, but these are real thumbnails. We could show pages upon pages of just thumbnails about me and Tucker Carlson. It's just like he doesn't care about Erica.
30:26Doesn't care about Charlie Kirk. Was never front of Charlie Kirk. It's just what I'm talking about right now. It doesn't matter what topic I cover. He will then host someone to talk about the topic I'm covering and u take a position on it that is opposite of mine and call me a demon. Okay. But I do have to say I have to show you this. I should have pulled this a while ago because we were we were laughing so hard when we we saw this on X. He really peaked in his clinical obsession. I think it was last week, it might have been the week before where I misspoke. It tends to happen. We do a podcast live daily. Everyone else
30:55sends their podcast through editing and they restate things when they misspeak.
30:59That's literally what happens to the Daily Wire. And this time I honestly barely misspoke, but apparently it sounded like I said selfesteem as opposed to self esteem. And so he pulls this second on the show and creates a diagnosis for me. So, not only are you you watching every millisecond of what I'm doing and pulling out like that's the crazy part is pulling out someone on a live show mispronouncing something hours and hours and hours of live content that you don't do. You don't do have a live content. But then creating a diagnosis beyond that that the reason I did it, the reason why I said what sounds like self-esteem
31:39is because I want to be famous. I'm not kidding. This is a real tweet. It's an aspirational level of derangement. He wrote this.
31:47She does this largely on purpose. All Candace cares about is fame and money.
31:53Nothing is beneath her. And everything that causes people to talk more about her is a tool in her arsenal. So I [gasps] I'm mispronouncing things and tripping over my words on a live show to become famous. I've never heard of this, by the way. This is the first time I've ever heard of this. I've never heard of people going to Hollywood and going, "Hey, how are you going to make it?
32:10Well, this person says they're going to take their clothes off. This person's going to try to be an actor. This person is going to try to be a director.
32:15service person is going to try to produce a film. Has there ever been a person who was like, I'm just going to mispronounce my way to the top.
32:21Like, it's so crazy. Only he could come up with it. He genuinely he is just so unwell. You have no idea the amount of Daily Wire employees that message me stuff and they're just going, "What?
32:33What is happening?" Anyway, he announced that he is doing an hours long podcast with Blake Nef who also fixates and Bobby Saucelito who I told you he's just hilarious just so funny. He does political com uh he's a political commentator but he also is a comedian a natural comedian and he jumped on before they released anything about this podcast just announced the podcast with the gay photo and Bobby Saucelito made predictions of what they were going to speak about. Okay, this these were Bobby Saucelito's predictions before the episode aired. Take a listen. Now, I hope you don't have a lot of plans
33:13tomorrow because the Blake Snuff Germs boring collab is [laughter] look at this about is about to drop. I don't think I've ever been as excited for a boring predictable podcast TO DROP IN MY LIFE.
33:23AND SINCE IT'S NOT OUT YET, YOU KNOW, I'M ABOUT TO COVER THAT, I'M going to make some predictions before we do that.
33:29So, there's a reason Charlie called him his secret weapon. Secret weapon, brother. A weapon is supposed to do damage TO THE OTHER PERSON, NOT YOURSELF. [laughter] He's a weapon for destroying turning point USA. But when before the yo before the predictions I just I when I saw this photo I couldn't I was like I can't there's there's too many jokes all the fences [laughter] but how did I can't even understand how this is real. This is like totally giving the energy of like when a dude walks into the room and these this I guess they're too angry dad's what are your intentions with my son sir. This is
34:04the look you would get if these two dudes came home and you told them yeah I watched the new episode of Will and Grace and they were like without us.
34:10HERE'S A QUICK CLIP OF THE SECRET WEAPON.
34:12>> SHE TWEETS, "No ears were harmed. Carry on with your Sunday afternoon." Then two hours ago, she tweets, "Sorry you're triggered."
34:24I mean, no, I'm not. I don't care a little bit.
34:27>> TAKE A WEAPON.
34:28>> This woman sucks. I hate this woman. I don't care. Like, literally, take this woman, revoke her citizenship, and deport her to Ukraine right now.
34:38>> I hate her. You can't do without.
34:40>> I hate this person. She is disgusting.
34:43>> Sick. Now, what's funny about this clip is that it was left in the comments on that Germs Boring post is that this is an old clip, but this is exactly what him and Germs Boring are going to be saying the entire episode about Canon.
34:55>> She's a disgusting monstrous piece monstrous piece of garbage.
34:58>> Do you guys have [laughter] literally going to be exactly the same thing? But anyways, prediction. The vast majority of the episode is going to be a complete hate session on Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson. They are going to run through how great of a person Mikey McCoy is, Frank Turk is, and how the official story is exactly as they said. They're going to talk about conspiracy theorists and how they they want Erica to be harmed. There's going to be at least 15 minutes, if not 20 minutes, about how amazing Erica is and how Candace is just jealous because he chose her. And with absolute certainty, there will be some
35:31type of call for Candace Owens to be sued or to be jailed outright. They will talk about free [laughter] speech is important, but not free speech and conspiracy theories cuz that's harm and harm to people and it could create harm in the future. So those people need to be silent because ultimately what Germs Boring is doing is he's securing the bag. Germs wants to get paid by Turning Point. Germs wants to continue to get paid by Turning Point. He needs to be in their good graces. So he needs to run cover for every single possible thing that they say. He needs to rebrand all the people that speak at Turning Point
36:03that are destroying their own image with their own content. Unfortunately for them, the only person that will watch this podcast and not BE LIKE A SLAY QUEEN WILL BE ME.
36:12[laughter] Almost spot on. The only thing that he got wrong in that assessment is that he's not doing it for money. Like this is that's not He is a deranged man that is just stalking me across. He doesn't care about any of this at all. Charlie never liked him. He never liked Charlie.
36:27He doesn't care about Erica Kirk. He is only interjecting himself into this narrative because that's where I am. If I'm covering Breijit, he's talking about Breijit. If I'm talking about this, he's talking about that. If I become Catholic, he's hosting priests. Okay, that's the whole vibe. It's just more stalking of Candace Owens, which has happened since I left Daily Wire. I am the employee that he fired, but he cannot let go. I occupy his every thought. Okay, now Bobby Sauce makes those predictions. Tucker Carlson.
36:51They're going to talk about Erica Kirk.
36:52They're going to talk about um defamation lawsuits, free speech, and I kid you not, afterward, they drop a I I guess it's supposed to get you excited for the episode. Here's what they are going to discuss. Take a listen.
37:08>> You were sort of instrumental in pushing the envelope of what was acceptable to say on the right.
37:14>> I support [music] maximal free speech. I have never once said YouTube should ban Candace. Aren't we dealing with actual defamation?
37:21>> She is a malicious, [laughter] hateful, dishonest, destructive actor in American life.
37:27>> Is it just fame, clicks, likes, money?
37:29>> She wants the person who killed Charlie to get away with it. Tucker has extended maximum grace to Candace Owens. Tucker was a benefactor to me, but Charlie was a benefactor to me, too. Tucker has done things that [music] are indefensible.
37:44>> He is siding with some of the worst voices in the country right now. The last communication I had with Tucker was Tucker, [music] just privately, can you ask your brother to just stop pushing this Candace stuff?
37:53>> Is all of this the result of the effort to bring more speech to [music] the public square? [laughter] >> No.
38:02>> Can somebody buy Bobby Saucelito a drink from me? Somebody who lives near him? I can't believe it. He literally hit every topic that was on there. Well, I can kind of believe it because it's just that's all it. It's just pretending it's a podcast. is just the Tucker and Candace show and the continued obsession that he has with this. But the calls to sue me, like he sued me privately for years throughout court. Brett Cooper, it's his like favorite thing and he just does that. He just brings people on and talks about how I need to be sued and makes more extreme statements about why I should be sued. Basically, he's tired
38:34or has no means to sue me anymore since he was forced out of the Daily Wire. So, he's like turning point, you guys do it for me so I can live vicariously through you. And this is him saying in a separate episode, why I need to be sued or something. Take a listen.
38:49>> Candace Owens has engaged in the worst act of public defamation probably in American history. She has slandered Erica, TPUSA, Mikey Mcramatic, you >> Andrew Kulvit, the state of Israel, the state of France, Egyptian Airlines, >> the Mcron, everybody.
39:07>> Yeah. If Candace is not guilty of defamation, and the bar for defamation is very high in America, especially with public figures, >> freedom of speech allows us to challenge our government, allows us to express our beliefs. So, >> it makes it easy to slander people and get away with it >> compared to other countries and particularly famous people or government officials because the logic is well, you need maximal free speech toward people who would have the resources or the power to be able to prevent you from having that free speech. And so in the case of defamation of a public figure, you have to show malice and and a
39:42reckless disregard for for truth >> andor I'm not sure which, but certainly Candace has crossed all those lines.
39:48There's no such thing as defamation and we should get rid of all defamation law if Candace isn't guilty of defamation for her treatment of >> particularly Erica and TPSA and Mikey and you and etc etc etc.
40:01>> He's just he's he's coming on. He looks ill. Like he's ill with this fixation.
40:06Bro, literally took a break to get a he sued me across years.
40:11When Charlie was alive, fired me, sued me, took a break to get a facelift, botched his ear, botched his right ear, which I can't stand to look at. Came back, told you I couldn't stand it. He put it up there.
40:27Man, baby got a a facelift. That guy is botched. which I would I will offer that I would watch him on an episode of botch and how he's debating somebody else to be like this is this is just co background noise constantly he doesn't care about Blake Nef at all it's all about me it is all about me anyway um I I just wanted to full credit to Bobby Saues I was laughing so hard when he just nailed it absolutely nailed it by the way speaking of more of this like this sort of closeted homosexual club of men who think that they're leading the conservative movement by calling for speech flaws and lying about what
41:01happened on September 10th and basically trying to gaslight the public about their experiences. This flip in what was the MAGA movement which quickly got invaded by the neocon movement. People are crashing out because it's now getting close to midterms and they realize that I don't know partnering with people like this and Laura Loomer uh is not going to bring you votes. So Poly Market basically dropped odds and said that Democrats are surging to record high. The odds of them sweeping both the um both chambers of Congress in 2026 midterms have soared. And this caused a remarkable crash uh across the
41:40people who basically are the reason people are not getting out of bed to vote because why are we voting for a party that traded Charlie Kirk for Laura Loomer? Like who's doing that? Who's like yeah no this is totally the same party. And Laura Loomer tweeted this. We won't be getting the Save America Act before midterms. Today is the last day in DC, members of Congress, until the end of midterms. No more bills, no more votes, no more anything. The president's agenda was not codified before the midterms. Good luck getting voters out.
42:06It will be a miracle if the Democrats don't take the House and the Senate this November. What is it they say? Good job team. Like it is not about that, Laura.
42:14Like everyone is just off of the bag movement. We want nothing to do with it.
42:18Like I'm sorry. I'm not telling anybody that they should go vote for more of this. Vote for what? Uh speech censorship that's being platformed, demanded by people like Mark Levin, Andrew Type, people that are asking for the state to get involved um in lawsuits. What are we what are we supposed to be crawling over broken glass to vote for? The the gas prices and then you going, "LOL, we don't care.
42:43That's what you got. We're going to war.
42:44We don't want war. We don't care. Your sons are going to die anyways cuz we want war." This is another person, Jamie Mitchell. She wrote, "Holy [ __ ] The GOP is genuinely useless. The Democrats want to crash castrate your children and completely replace America's demographics, but somehow they're on track to sweep the midterms."
43:02Yeah. Because you want to kill our kids overseas with never- ending wars. You're ignoring everything that we're saying.
43:09Um what what is the message that we're supposed to be going? Rah rah, get down there and vote. You guys said you had it, right? It was just a bunch of what was it? Pakistani bots that watch Tucker Carlson.
43:23Candace is vile most person most the most vile person of the year is me.
43:28Times most vile person. You attack Thomas Massie. Got him out of there.
43:34Every single person that was a a part and parcel of the MAGA movement. You guys have been attacking and demanding that Trump reject and he's been getting on your knees and now he can deal with the consequence. Nobody cares. I hate to say this, nobody cares. And you're going to sit here and tell us like, "Oh, but they're transing the children." Well, you're murdering children. You're murdering children nonstop and using our tax dollars to do it. And when we say we don't like that, you stick your nose up to us. Okay. Well, you and some of you psychopathic bullshik homies, get down there and vote for Trump.
44:10I don't tell you. Gather up your [ __ ] homies. Who what vote was he supposed to be moving? like um Laura Loomer referring to me as a ghetto black [ __ ] and what was that going to get black people out there and move the black needle like this these are your advisers now you went from Charlie Kirk to this what are we getting behind state assassinations maybe it's the Epstein files guys why do you care about the Epstein files they're going to trans your children well he was he was raping children so I feel Like it's it's um Are we talking about the Epstein? Yeah, we're just talking about the Epstein files.
44:50Actually, we're doing that. Um that's the message. Things are more expensive. Diesel is the cost of this.
44:58The House of Living is this. But you guys should just deal with it because at least we're going to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, which you've been saying for the last I mean decades.
45:08That was the whole reason you guys bombed Ford out, right? To stop them from getting a nuclear. can't just keep running the same thing and expecting different results. We're just done with it. Libs of Tik Tok upset prediction markets project Democrats have a 59% to sweep both chambers. This is why voting is so important. Don't listen to anyone telling you to stay home. Get out and vote.
45:31How about no? [laughter] Just no. I'm just going to sit here and be vile most per most vile person of the year. Going to homeschool my kids. I'm gonna buy local. I'm going to wait until somebody respectable runs for office.
45:46And I'm not going to allow you to fearmonger using my children when you don't care about the epste. You don't get to pretend play pretend like you care about kids. How about that? No.
45:56J Vance is asking for another chance.
45:58Here's what JD Vance had to say. Take a listen.
46:02>> There is a lot of good that we've done over the past 18 months. We cut taxes bigly. We cut taxes on overtime, social security, and tips. Those are tax cuts for middle American workers, not just for the elites in in Washington and New York City. Uh we've had an amazing success with the border with immigration. We've pursued H-1B reform that prioritizes American workers over foreign nationals. There's a lot of good that's been done, but there's a lot of work left to do. Don't give power to the people who cause the problems that we're fixing. give us another chance or give us another couple years to continue to
46:37work on the amazing things that we've been doing for the past two years.
46:42How about no?
46:45How about you tell us who killed Charlie Kirk and why? Let's start there.
46:50How about you tell us uh release the rest of the Epstein files that we know all of your homies are in. The Epstein files that you promised you were going to release before you got into office and we took your word for it and voted you in. How about Yeah. said you punished Thomas Massie for wanting to get that done, which was your promise.
47:06I'm going to say no. I'm going to hold you to your promises and not allow you to make more.
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49:31helpful. I cannot be useful. I can only I got I got to be the vile most person of the year. Tucker, what' you call him?
49:39Maniac that he fell off. Megan Kelly, you attacked. You tacked you attacked all of MAGA and now you claw back and you're like, "Hey, hey, midterms are around the corner.
49:50Good luck. Do it. Do the thing at midterms. Don't come to us." Okay. Um, all right. Top comments from yesterday's episode. Noah wrote, "I like how Blakey says Candace's agenda is trans transparent." Yes, Blake, it is. That's why we trust her. [laughter] Love that. Yeah, I'm pretty transparent about what my agenda is. I'd like to find out who killed Charlie Kirk and why people that are close to him are lying about everything. Why their stories just can't they can't straighten them.
50:18MD409 writes, "Remember when Charlie locked kids in a gymnasium? Remember when he screened questions beforehand?"
50:25Oh, right. Me neither. Yeah, that's a new thing that Erica Kirk is doing. And then gaslighting the kids. Guess what you got? That's the best part. You got to lock him in the gymnasium, force them to listen to you, and then send out Andrew Koba and Blake Nef to gaslight the kids with a genocidal Grammy. Granny on X. Old genocidal granny. You got to find one. There's always one lingering around X. And she's like, just blow up Palestinian children. You got to do what you want to do. I love Erica. And that's that. All right, we get it. You know, Israelis, by the way, if you are listening, midterms around the corner.
51:00get out and vote for your president if you can or whatever. It's weird, but I feel like you do owe him your votes or whatever. Um, he's made it possible for you. For me, I think it's another Austin Powers moment. Dr. Evil, when Dr. Evil said this, >> how about new crazy? [laughter] >> That's That's me. Midterms. Sorry guys.
51:30Comments from today's episode. This person writes, "My twin brother and best friend Mark just moved out of state with his wife and family after 32 years together. I'm happy for them but bummed for me. We talk about your show daily and that won't won't change. At the Yay concert, we kept saying no way Candace misses this." And we were right. Can you give Mark a shout out? I'm Mark. So proud of you on the move even though your friend is very sad that you will be gone. Thank you for um you know being a person that watches this watches the podcast, talks about the podcast and makes it so that we get to do what we
52:00love every single day and not have to bend the knee to Israel. Happy moving.
52:05It's good to have a change of scenery.
52:07Joseph Brown writes, "There's no greater love for a friend than to risk your own life. Can you a great example of what it means to be a true friend? I was so wrong about you. For whatever it's worth, you made a believer out of me."
52:16Oh, that's very sweet. That was so kind of you to say. Thank you for that. Yeah, it's it's good to be loyal. It really is. And I and part of it I wonder people say to me, "Why don't you talk bad about this person or that person or you know, you've seen people that have done bad things to you?" It's because I think it weakens you. Actually, it it is demonstration of your own character when you do stuff like that. And that is why Turning Point has fallen apart so quickly because people could can see the day in and dayout betrayal of what Charlie believed in, what his mission was, what his what his brand was, what
52:45he was going through in those last days.
52:46And look at how quickly they they they weakened an organization that had so much influence.
52:51You know, don't be that person in life.
52:54Brooke writes, "Love from Houston. From your Maine, you are glowing and your truth will always prevail. Christ is king. Love to you, the team, the family.
53:02Go, Max." Thank you so much, Brooke. Is I wonder if Houston is as hot as Tennessee is right now. I can't even go outside, guys. It's crazy. They just are so disrespectful to my pregnancy right now. The weather man is just disrespecting my pregnancy. Sam writes, "Ben Shapiro, I compel you to apologize to Candace Owens. That was so random. We weren't even talking about Ben today.
53:22But I agree. I compel you. I compel you to apologize just because you should.
53:27Bobby Christ writes, "Are or Bobby Christ writes, "Are they still talking about those midterms?" [laughter] I got to chuckle out of that. Are we still talking about the midterms?
53:41Still talking about those midterms, guys. We got to stop talking about those midterms. It's crazy.
53:46Casually crafted right. I appreciate all the work that you are doing for this case, but ma'am, I can't hear the words coming out of your mouth until I get a positive evidence on where your shirt is from for my official timeline. K.
53:58Thanks. I have no idea where it is from, Ashley. Where is this from? I feel like it's somewhere super super super like I had this for years. It's It's definitely not a very expensive shirt. I feel maybe I feel like it's not. I was so upset when they were like, I had no idea there that there's a whole group on X that's dedicated to trying to find out. They'll let you know where it's from. This is what they do. Trying to find out where my EP my outfits are from and then trying to say like I'm out of touch because they find something that's expensive. I'm just so upset they're doing that because I can show up. Okay,
54:34I'm I'm large and in charge right now. I have some really cute pieces. If we're going to be doing that and pulling my outfits and my jackets and my shirts, can you just wait until after maternity leave? Like, let me give you something to talk about. Do I ask for much?
54:47Seriously. Anyway, you guys, you know what to do if you want to support our work. Merch is available on the website.
54:52We have to drop some merch to make fun of Baron. I feel like we got to get some Baron merch on there cuz that picture of him with Breijit doll is fly and it needs to happen. And we need to have like a humble host. We're going to get some some Baron stuff up there. I got to have something mocking Baron Coleman.
55:08That feels appropriate. You guys can buy your second favorite shirt. Not your first. We are not yet selling Converse sneakers because it's a dangerous thing to sell. Um, but you can buy your second favorite shirt. You can buy a Santa Cup.
55:18You can buy a mug. You can buy a CIA hat. We are the Decentralized Intelligence Agency. And we have a lot in store. Some stuff I am, of course, saving. I got lawsuits going on and lawsuits pending. If Jeremy gets his way, somebody else sue her. Been doing it for years, but now it's your turn.
55:34Sue her. Sue her. Sue her. It's the greatest defamation that ever took place in the world. I don't know how I'm not a lawyer. I've never saw defamation law. I know nothing of the juristp prudence.
55:45But trust me, bro, it's not because I'm an obsessed, deranged, closeted homosexual man. Anyway, we'll see you guys tomorrow. [music]
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