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LEAKED: “Protecting Erika Kirk” Group Chat, Perez Hilton’s Public Breakdown. | Ep 372

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0:01All right, you guys. Happy Wednesday.

0:03Sorry, I'm a little tardy. I had a sick two-year-old in my bed last night, and he's he's cute, but he sleeps like a psycho. Snores like an old man. Anyway, I know a lot of people today are discussing obviously celebrity blogger Perez Hilton this morning. Don't worry, we are not going to show you the video.

0:20I actually want to be honest with you, I haven't even watched the video because my social media guy alerted me to it last night. He said, "Don't watch it."

0:26And I said, "Okay." that my husband said, "Do not watch it after he saw it."

0:31I can't even watch scary movies. I've shared that with you. I'm very like spiritually sensitive to that stuff. I can't I can hardly make it through an Erica Kirk interview. Speaking of which, in hilarious news, Piers Morgan interviewed one of her spiritual adviserss, Victor Marx, the man that we interviewed. And Piers Morgan is very confused. This man who summons angels and demons into the room. Uh, Pierce has sort of landed upon the same conclusion that Victor is bizarre. Keep going, Piers. You might appreciate that uh all of these godly quote unquote godly people who Erica surrounded her husband

1:07with are of a particular variety that feels anything but holy or biblical despite the words that come out of their mouth, despite all of the pretenses.

1:17Anyway, we have a lot to cover today, so let's get into it. Welcome back to Candace.

1:37Okay, before we get into this Perez Hilton story, quick update for you guys on Officer Baggley, which may or may not be interesting, uh, giving given the recurring themes that we've been talking about in the Charlie Kirk assassination story. Uh, we learned that officer Baggley, while he was employed by the Utah County Sheriff's Office, so that was actually his last place of employment before he began working for UVU. He worked for a Utah County Sheriff's Office, but specifically he worked in the sex crimes detective unit.

2:09So, I'm pointing that out because I have been continually underlining that theme across the board. Various decoys like George Zinn arrested for child pornography. Seems like he was put up for this job uh of saying, "I did it. I did it." The guy who jumped up and started that chant, "USA, USA." He goes by David Sprag, but he actually changed his name. It used to be James Rollinsson. He confessed to me that his father got mixed up uh in crimes against children and and some sex abuse crimes against children. Uh, I also had shared with you in the past, maybe you don't remember, that I strongly suspect that

2:46Mike Mitchell, who is very central to the story, the former undercover cop who was Tyler Robinson's Boy Scouts leader who told him, "Oh, you know, they're going to they're going to arrest you either way and convinced him to sort of turn himself in or, you know, have the SWAT bang down your door." Well, as a reminder, we were able to find an undercover detective who was involved in Utah with cyber sex crime unit by that same name, Mike Michael Mitchell, but we haven't been able to confirm with absolute certain uh abs absolute certainty that it is uh the same Mike Mitchell. But I think it is because I

3:22just we don't really know what he did uh for the police. And usually that means you're undercover and if you're doing internet crimes. Uh yeah, I'll tell you one thing why this really matters and we've had that spreadsheet for you is because obviously when you are dealing with uh sex crimes over the internet, cyber sex crimes, you will find a hub of feds and feds do turn would be criminals into assets. You catch them uh touching the wrong link and here are your choices. You can either do this for us or you can spend the rest of your life with the whole world knowing you're a pedophile. These circumstances have

4:00happened in the past many times over.

4:02And so again, I'm entering that tidbit because it might be relevant down the line. Now, I had already been wondering aloud about whether some people were blackmailed into certain activity, and I'm going to continue to to wonder aloud about that, give myself permission to think while it's still legal. I also really wanted to get together a little list. I will I will keep building on this. You know, I love a list for I mean, just us to remind ourselves of everything that we were initially told about this case. Uh the influencers that came out and told us they were overwhelmed with evidence that has thus

4:36far been proven false or entirely unverifiable. We were told wait until the preliminary hearing. I was told that actually by Erica herself, saying this is her lawyer. This is when we gather all the evidence. Then at the preliminary hearing, we have a a chance to present that evidence and the public will know much more. Well, it's just important to pause and reflect and to recognize that from beginning up until this point, we have just been lied to.

5:02They have proven actually nothing. They continually call us the conspiracy theorists. They are the conspiracy theorists. Actually, we are fully in the throws of trust the science of Tyler Robinson. Just just trust that it's him, but we don't have to supply any proof.

5:17So, here's just a little brief list of things that I'm putting together. Uh, and like I said, we will continue to grow this, but we were told that Tyler Tyler's father turned him in. I have disputed this from the very beginning. I was the first person to say that is not true. I had a source and it was solid.

5:31That actually he was pressured into coming in and told that he had no other option or they were going to bang down his door. When we were told that, don't forget the Bill Aman narrative in the background. Bill Aman. This was such a a prevalent narrative in the mainstream that Bill Aman tweeted that he was going to award this brave father. Oh, could you imagine if you had to turn in your own son $1 million, which added to this myth and this lore of Tyler Robinson's father uh turning him in. And that has been determined to be a lie. I'm not saying Bill Aman lied. He could have been responding to the lie. But what I'm

6:05saying is uh I I believe Andrew Kovette admitted that Bill Aman did not give him $1 million and Matt Robinson, his father did not turn him in. They just kind of are moving on from that point. It didn't happen. Uh there we were also told that there is a video of Tyler Robinson taking the shot in 4K by the influencers. That is a lie. I proved to you that was a lie. They're now moving the goalpost and pretending that they never said it. that was there is no video of any person taking the shot actually doesn't exist major lie uh Tyler Robinson another thing that we were told uh andor his lover at various

6:43times are transgendered that's a lie Tyler Robinson is not transgendered I told you that very early on his lover Lance is not transgendered and the furry culture it's very difficult to explain but that is supposed to exist as an avatar are of some game player or some some some someone in game world that reminds you of yourself and I am told by people in the game world that Luna is a very popular character because they're sort of like antisocial and I don't know they were explaining to me who Luna is the very popular character in that world and who's going to account for that lie who's going to come forward and admit

7:22that they just sort of made that up I don't know we were similarly told in that same vein the reason why that lie was so crucial was that this was a politically motivated crime. Tyler Robinson, the whole text messages reflect some hate just can't be negotiated. I got to do this. Charlie, I had to take my shot.

7:40Charlie Kirk is here. That's crucial.

7:43That's the motive. We were told that that was because of Charlie Kirk's stance on LGBTQ issues. Least of the things that he is known for. Truly least of the things that Charlie Kirk is known for. If this was like, you know, Matt Walsh during what is a woman documentary, that might make sense. But Charlie Kirk, like, no, that's not what people when you think of Charlie Kirk, you don't think of transgendered issues.

8:05We know where he stands on it, but that's not that's not his claim to fame.

8:10Then suddenly the the boyfriend Lance testifies that he's never spoken to him about LGBTQ issues. So I guess for the first time he spoke to him about it after he killed Charlie Kirk via text message. Again, it's a very serious lie, but has now been debunked because it means the motive has evaporated. The political motive has evaporated. He said they didn't even speak about politics.

8:32He had never mentioned the name Charlie Kirk to him ever.

8:38Where's their motive now?

8:41We were told that there is footage of Tyler Robinson assembling the rifle on the roof. That is a lie. There is no footage of Tyler Robinson assembling the rifle on the roof. Blake Nef tweeted this the other day. He's lying through his teeth. He's lying through that bald head. Okay. Doesn't exist. Then he kind of tried to edit and say, "Well, we can deduce. We can deduce. We can deduce that somebody assembled a rifle on the roof." No, we can't deduce that. Is there footage? Yes or no? The answer is no. It was a lie. We were told that there was clear footage of Tyler Robinson's car on campus. That is thus

9:14far unproven. It would remain a mystery as as to if there was that footage why they wouldn't have presented at the preliminary hearing. What we have been presented with is blurry footage of a car that resembles Tyler Robinson's car.

9:28He's not the only person in Utah or in the United States or in the world that drives that particular vehicle in that car in that color. So, that is thus far unproven, but we we'll we'll be open to maybe this is they just didn't want to present it at the preliminary hearing.

9:44We were told Tyler Robinson was suicidal. That is a lie. I told you that was a lie. I from the very beginning he was not suicidal. In fact, he was so not suicidal that he agreed to turn himself in rather to walk in peaceibly. You have no other choice. That's what they told him. He agreed to go in peaceibly rather than subject himself to the possibility of an accidental death by SWAT team banging down his door. That's they just moved on from that. We were told that Tyler Robinson's gun was officially tied to the bullet fragment that was recovered in Charlie's autopsy. That's a lie. The ATF was very clear. That's why

10:23the influencer started pretending uh they were kind of trying to shroud uh the ATF testimony. That's my that's my belief of why they went so hard in on the last day because that ATF testimony was so crucial and very carefully explained that they no they uh they gave a range. She gave a range of what these metal fragments of which really only one of them uh could be tested. A range of what sort of weapons it could fit into.

10:51And in fact, it didn't cover a 3006.

10:55It didn't cover a 306. If you pay attention to that testimony, she almost debunked the idea entirely in my view that this was tied to Tyler Robinson's gun whatsoever.

11:06We were told Tyler Robinson's gun had DNA all over it. And I'm going to call that a lie by severe omission because every time they said this in the public, they refused to say, but five other sets of prints minimally were also found on the gun. And they refused to say that Tylers are the most degraded.

11:27Tyler's prints are the most degraded of all the prints that were found on this gun. That is a severe lie by omission to continually say they found his prince on a gun and not admit that five other sets were found of which one were his owned by his father and the other by Lance.

11:45Lance Swig is not why why are Lance's fingerprints on this family heirloom.

11:52Um and I am going to count this next one as a lie by severe omission that Terrell Farnsworth immediately turned over the footage to police. I'm going to call that a lie by severe omission because Terrell Farnworth took out we watched him take out an SD card. And actually what the police were given was not an SD card. They were given a hard drive, right? A USB file.

12:16So why when was that transferred? That feels relevant to me. You didn't they you can give an SD card to the feds. You don't need to be like, well, let me get this onto a USB or a hard drive. No, this tells me that it is plausible that that footage was edited, zoomed in perhaps, as Ni pointed to and then given to the feds for some reason because a zoomed in image would not show you what was happening on the ground beneath. I'm not sure, but these are a lot of of very severe lies that they're now just kind of moving on from what exactly I guess this is my question. What exactly in the narrative thus far which has been presented to us

12:58to the public, what are we supposed to find convincing? Because I want you to remember that in order to secure a murder conviction, you have to move a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. Beyond a reasonable doubt to secure a murder conviction.

13:17So to our detractors, which there are many, I ask sincerely, name one piece of evidence that has been entered into the public domain that you feel demonstrates that Tyler Robinson did this beyond a reasonable doubt. Because as we were going through this as a team, we were like, all they're left with right now is a text message confession, right? That's that's really kind of it. These were taken a text message confession which the police took from Lance's phone.

13:48Mind you, Lance should be a suspect in this. His prints are everywhere. He had access to all of Tyler's belongings. He says his alibi is I was sleeping. Okay.

13:56He's being protected by the feds. Like I said, he seems like an asset. Maybe they found him online doing some weird stuff.

14:02And those messages were presented without any time stamps. We don't know why that is.

14:07And also, it happens to be that when Lance's phone was photographed by the police, it was conveniently broken. Take a look here in the top left corner, right where we would be able to discern what time it was when the police took that. Their story is, oh, he came in on the night of the 10th or maybe it's the 11th. And when we spoke to him, well, it would be great if we could look at that time, but that he happened to break his phone, like stab it right in the corner where the time is. So, we don't get to guess or know when the feds actually took photos of those messages. Um, we also saw testimony in court that the

14:44police moved to use an Israeli tech firm to extract the messages. Celebrate, it's called, an Israeli forensic tech firm to extract those messages. Now, I don't know if it matters to them, but we all kind of think Israel killed Charlie Kirk just based on the actions and the mood of the Israeli government leaders, BB Netanyahu, and their plethora of uh Zionist supporters throughout the United States. They're obsessed with lying about the Charlie Kirk case. They just have to lie about the Charlie Kirk case. They have to try to debunk everything immediately. It's giving us the vibe that they could be

15:25guilty.

15:27So yeah, we'd rather not trust an Israeli tech firm to extract messages that do not sound at all as though they were written by a native English speaker. And I'll tell you what I mean by that. It sounds to me like someone using Google Translate, right? There are little idiosyncrasies in language that I'll give you when I learned Spanish.

15:45Okay? I remember like, okay, I know how to say to drink. Be ber.

15:53But actually they don't use bear ever.

15:55No. Everywhere you go they use tomar which is like to take. They say tomma like you take. So if you say be like if I put that into Google translate I want to drink it's going to give me be. And if I go and I then present those as text messages, Spanish people are going to clock you in 4 seconds and say, "This is not a native sp this is not a native Spanish speaker at all." We don't say, "But it means to drink." Yeah, we don't we don't we don't say that.

16:27In Tyler Robinson's text messages, we actual American English speakers, we don't say pooch and bad sniffer in casual language. I actually looked that up actually. Like sniffer is is Ukrainian. There's like a show called The Sniffer, Ukrainian show. It's totally crazy. We don't use that stuff in casual language. This is somebody who does not know how we speak.

16:51And it is of course entirely plausible that someone gained access to Tyler Robinson's iCloud. Maybe someone like his boyfriend gave access to his iCloud and someone sent text messages from a different location. All of that remains to be seen because don't forget Tyler's legal team, despite reasonable protestations, were not granted their discovery requests leading up to the preliminary hearing.

17:13Okay? They testified that they had not even been given access to their client's phone when they were requesting an extension.

17:22They were going, "Well, how are we doing with this hearing? We we don't have anything. We don't we can't even vet anything that you're putting on the stand. You're just going to allow hearsay?" Yeah, we're going to allow hearsay. That's what happened. Those text messages have not been vetted yet.

17:35Now, in addition to this, the public is noticing that the victim on this case, Erica Kirk, is inviting influencers into the courtroom. That doesn't make us think she's telling the truth.

17:43Especially because the influencers are lying. They have lied repeatedly to the masses. They get caught and they just keep lying as if their lives and livelihood depend on it. On top of that, her her organization, which she took over, um, in her husband's dead, Turning Point USA, is contracting the services of and platforming people who are meant to lie about this investigation full-time. It's their full-time job to attack Candace. I don't know if you happen to catch this, but over on X right now, it's trending. A group of 92 influencers have been exposed targeting me exposed coordinating in a group chat.

18:25The group was brought together by an agent of Israel. No doubt uh in the past before Charlie was assassinated that this person hosted uh a spaces on X and went on record admitting that they gather intel. They collaborate with with Green Berets there. Uh they collaborated with a Daily Wire employee Cassie Akiva, the Gaza Humanitarian Fund, then run by Johnny Moore, to create files on people for the purpose of doing Israel's PR bidding. At that time, it was about what's happening in Gaza. And they were they were going after someone who [clears throat] Tucker Carlson had on his show. So, of course, the common

19:02sense question is, why is someone who focuses on PR for Israel focused on gathering 91 other people to attack me full-time over the Charlie Kirk case?

19:12Okay, I'll show you this. The group chat got exposed because a member of the group went rogue and was like, I'm done with this. This is this is no longer healthy for me. Here is what she said over two tweets. Shady Lady Katie wrote, coordinated efforts are coming from some of these people. Here are all the names who were in this group chat. I'm sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sharing information, background checks, reporting accounts, whining and complaining all day about Candace Owens and even sharing Candace's own home

19:41address in this group chat. However, I will say that not everyone here participated. Some just lurked. Anyway, I am out of here. X is a digital unfruitful wasteland and I have a real life and to do. Go live your lives and build something. and she exposed 92 members in this group chat which has the name protecting Mrs. Kirk.

20:07Protecting Mrs. Kirk and some of these names are not we know this is their I blocked them because it's just their full it's obvious it's their full-time job to attack me. Milk Bar TV, No Soup for Nles, Paramount, Not So Tactical, Bria Dale, Fake Catholic, Insurrection, Barbie, you know, just block block block. It's not even worth my worth my time. Like, it's just the most obvious operation in the world. Nice to see it.

20:34Nice to go through these, and you should go through these 92 absolute losers who are losing despite doing this. I don't coordinate. I'm not on any group chats with 92 operatives, 10 operatives, six operatives, two operatives. I don't do this. I work with my team. I look for information. I may, you know, reach out obviously to people who are also care about this case. Baron Coleman, hey, did you did you see this video? Give him a call. Did like, did you find this? Did you cover this topic? Tell me what he knows. No, no one's no one's coordinating to take down Erica Kirk.

21:07We're just coordinating to figure out who killed Charlie Kirk.

21:11And for some reason, these people find it to be synonymous with taking down Erica Kirk. I wonder why that is.

21:18So that's the question. Why does it take 92 operatives online coordinating sharing my personal information utterly psychotic? Okay, my home address. Why are they obsessed with the takeown of Canoans? Well, the answer is because they know that I know. They know that I know. Okay, we got another bizarre request today. This time from the Daily Mail, Charlie Spearing, the one who worked on the Trust Us, bro. Charlie definitely wanted Erica to take over the company because I watched the video. The author of that, the Aspen, I watched it so you don't have to guy.

21:54He wrote this to us today. We have sources who believe that Candace is being used by foreign operatives sending misinformation through her tip line. It is part of a much broader network.

22:04Really?

22:06Foreign operatives sending me the video of the rooftop? Foreign operatives sending me what? Like the pictures of the inside of the car. Take one, take two, everything that I've exposed. What What do you do you feel like came from a foreign operative? Why do you think the truth is coming from foreign operatives?

22:22I don't work with foreign operatives.

22:24This is a real network of people who are dedicating their time to wanting to learn and know what happened to Charlie Kirk. I mean, deep down we all have a sense that the state murdered Charlie Kirk. um that clearly it must have had Trump's permission uh because he's doing nothing to try to get to the bottom of what happened to his dear friend who helped to get him elected twice and we sends Israel's involvement.

22:51That's what's hap there's no foreign operatives that are working on this case.

22:57So yeah, the real issue is that they know that I know they're desperate now growing increasingly desperate and manic. Uh, we want FBI raids, anything.

23:08But I'm sorry, guys. Uh, it's all inevitable. Okay, it is inevitable. You are figuratively walking a plank. Charlie was betrayed.

23:20You can't spin that.

23:23Speaking of which, I have a question for Blakey Nef. Public challenge. Just one question, Blake. Let's see if you can remember. Oh, so transparent one. you, Danny Phillip, Mikey McCoy, and uh Nate Walker all walked into Temponogus Hospital together. My question for you is simple. Did you all travel there together? Did all four of you arrive at Temponogus Hospital in the same car? Yes or no?

24:00I'm asking for a reason. Another question and that's regarding Nate Walker because look what a new thing like to be just a new assistant the one who supplied Charles with that freedom t-shirt.

24:13The internet has taken notice and we would appreciate a clarification on his movements before the explosive goes off.

24:20Um because he's a young assistant and at around 12:15 he has his bag as assistants do. would have been many of these events. And he's speaking speaking with Dan Flood. And this is around 12:15.

24:33I'm going to show you that.

24:36Um, you can see he's wearing a bright blue shirt in the corner there. That's him talking. You could just catch him with his bag that's pointing. And then what happens after that? Dan's obviously talking into his shirt. Then Nate with I guess we're less than T minus 10 before the explosive goes off. Um suddenly he's upstairs when that happens.

25:05He is this is him immediately following the explosive um around 12:25. So about I guess a minute and 45 seconds afterward. Here he is up near the flag of Hall's walkway.

25:19putting on sunglasses and he doesn't have his bag.

25:32Here he comes.

25:38And then we find him two minutes beyond that walking downstairs. Um, so people have questions and I think it's a pretty fair thing. You know, the public cares about Charlie. What? Where? Why did he go upstairs?

25:54What was um Maybe he went up there. I don't I don't know. Maybe I don't know.

26:00Dan Flood asked him to go up there to check on something. I don't know. We don't need to make up a narrative. We don't need to speculate, but we are asking for a specific reason.

26:11Anyway, I will leave that at that. I want to get into this Perez Hilton uh story. I guess you know what we should probably do. I didn't realize they've already been going here for 30 minutes.

26:22Let's take a quick break and then let's cover Perez Hilton.

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29:26Okay, so it's trending everywhere. Uh the video has fortunately been removed from the internet. Of course, you can find it in various pockets, but at least there is some sort of an honest attempt to remove the video across social media.

29:38Uh, but Perez Hilton, I'm going to tell you a little bit about him for my international listeners because I obviously do not expect that he made it across the pond. So, he is a gay celebrity blogger uh who really came up in the early 2000s. You you could actually argue that he sort of pioneered celebrity blogging uh in the time and the land before social media. He did it in a way, however, that I should make clear was very vicious and very mean, right? He would cover celebrities throughout their addictions, eating disorders, their relationships, um if they were, you know, struggling with uh anorexia, if they were in rehab, if they

30:16were begging for privacy. There was like no place that he wouldn't go. There was nothing he would not publish onto his blog. And he um uh would also include these gratuitous illustrations of these celebrities to suggest as an example that they were addicted to co cocaine like a little white scribble beneath their nose so to speak to imply that these people were on drugs. It was incredibly invasive to many celebrities who were all many of them extremely young at the time of his publications and uh dealing with their own insecurities obviously being in the public eye. They uh would eventually speak out about how his targeting and

30:54bullying contributed to their self-hatred or their self harm. And to be clear, I want to really stress he was vicious. He would call people ugly, fat, give them nicknames, and they would sort of I think a lot of them were like permanently damaged from this. One of them being Khloe Kardashian, who has changed her face many times. I he really targeted her and referred to her as a transvestite over and over again. Also, there was this massive scandal. To give you an idea of who he was, he posted an upskirt photo of Miley Cyrus, who was then just 17 years old. Right? That's the kind of stuff that he would do. And

31:33when he was interviewed about it, he would just be like, "Oh, it's not my fault that like whatever. This is what the public is interested in and these celebrities know what they're doing."

31:40She's 17 years old. Like, this is not a person that you should be publishing.

31:44Now, of course, this because it was like sort of the dawn of this and people maybe always wondered how celebrities lived and wanted to know about these celebrities. It just completely launched him. It actually gave him so much power in Hollywood. celebrities actually sought his friendship. So you can see he's hanging out with A-listers because he just wanted to be on his good side.

32:06It was almost like a form of social blackmail in a way because you didn't want to end up with him tracking you. So that's like Lady Gaga. I mean he was hosting wild parties with A-list celebrities because people basically wanted to end up on his good list.

32:20That's kind of the Perez Hilton phenomena uh in a nutshell. Now, in 2010, he did a total rebrand and he offered this public apology saying that he wanted to change his trajectory, wanted to change his ways, no longer play a part in the industry of bullying that he really built. And he tried to flip his brand by appearing on Ellen Degenerous's talk show. And here is what he said.

32:46>> So, when you asked to be here, I got to say a lot of people have said, uh, it's not a good idea and advised me against it and said, why would you want to do that? I believe in giving people second chances and you said you want to change and a lot of people don't believe you but if you say you want to change and you want to I I think it it takes a big person to look at themselves and say I've done wrong and I want to change so I want to listen to what you have to say.

33:08>> Yeah. You know over the last week and a half two weeks I've been doing everything I can to bring awareness to the the issue of the teen suicides and gay bullying. And in doing so, a lot of people have called me a hypocrite and a bully myself and a big one. And that's not how I want to be perceived and that's not what I want to put out there into the world. And it was a big wakeup call that so many people saw me that way. So, you know, from now on, I really want to be part of the solution and not part of the problem. I want to be the change that I want to see in others. So, I'm going to do things

33:41differently on my website than I have in the past. I'm not going to call people nasty nicknames. I'm not going to go the the mean route. I'm going to force myself to try and be funnier or smarter or or just do things differently, not doodle inappropriate things, not not out people, which I I have done all of those things in the past.

34:02>> That's right. So, yeah, he had a lot of power in Hollywood. Some people were not buying this rebrand, especially people who were impacted by the stuff that he did. Khloe Kardashian being one of them.

34:13She came out and was like, "This is nice, but no, like you've, you know, really damaged me." Now, I I should mention here the reason why some people weren't buying this was because at the same time of his attempted rebrand came the dawn of social media. So, his relevancy was sort of naturally fading.

34:27The paparazzi culture of the 2000s, he benefited from that tremendously. It changed with smartphones, right?

34:34Everyone suddenly became the paparazzi.

34:36This wasn't like unique capture and celebrity culture transformed. So, this was kind of like the Paris Hilton, Nicole Richie phase that he uh was enjoyed the boom of and then that sort of went away. I'm just telling you guys that on background uh because like I said, I'm sure he didn't make his way across the pond. People don't know who this guy is or why he's trending, but he really did build an empire of of sleeves and he embraced it until he didn't. Now, on the personal side of things, you should know that Perez as a gay single man uh in the new social media era made this decision also to have children via

35:10surrogacy. He's single. This is becoming an increasingly controversial topic. Gay men um using surrogacy, not having another parent in their lives. He chose to have three children, one in 2013, one in 2015, and one in 2017. One boy and two girls. So, he is a single father, which is important as we get into what happened last night. Okay? These children do not have another parent is what I'm stressing to you. So, over recent months, it's been clear that he is going through something. I mean, on March 23rd, he posted videos of himself from a hospital bed and said he almost died from severe sepsis and infections.

35:49He claimed that it started with the flu, but he didn't take his medications with food like he was supposed to. So he then developed an ulcer that eventually perforated. He was hospitalized for 3 weeks and had emergency surgery. And then he said that because he was so close to death, he found God. And then he started sort of hawking these Christian t-shirts online and you know people either accepted that or thought that this was a new grift. One or the other. Now, yesterday what happened and I made like I said Skyler watched this video last night so I didn't have to. My husband watched this video so I didn't

36:28have to. I have sensitive eyes and ears.

36:31But in the video uh which ran live on TikTok, Perez Hilton was fully naked, drenched in blood with multiple cuts all over his body and he was cutting himself. He can be seen making cuts uh with a knife all over his body and he's completely out of it. He's on video and he's saying things like, "I am doing this for my children." Uh he's looking out of the window recognizing that the police are here saying shoot me you know mother foes mother f-words you know what I'm trying to say there and what happened was the update came from NBC obviously they took him gratefully peaceibly and the they hospitalized him

37:10uh after this live stream that he was doing this on a live stream on TikTok I should mention and he w the police said that they responded to his Miami area home um of the celebrity blogger and podcaster Perez Hilton after they received reports that he engaged in self harm in a live streamed video Tuesday night. A spokesperson for the Miami Dade Sheriff's Office said in an email that the deputies responded to reports of someone who was live streaming acts of self harm on social media. In a follow-up statement, the sheriff's office said that the person was safely recovered and taken by Miami Dade Fire

37:43Rescue to a local hospital where he was receiving medical attention. It said the de deputies spoke to the family members at the scene who confirmed the person had been alone inside the residence. So his kids were not there. The video which was streamed on Tik Tok before the platform pulled it appeared to show Hilton covered in blood with visible cuts holding a knife. And in the video viewers pleaded with him and asked for his phone number so that they could alert authorities. Um, and they note that he's a single father with three children, born via surrogacy, and he moved back to Miami after living in Las

38:15Vegas for three and a half years. Now, I want to share my personal opinion on this. I I think uh Paris Hilton is on drugs. I do. It's an opinion, not a fact, obviously. But I soon as I uh heard about this, soon as I heard about the sepsis thing, there was just something about it that felt to me like he is in the throws of a drug addiction.

38:32And obviously there is a deeper irony to that given how he built his career. But um there's been just a lot of changes in his life moving back into uh his mother's house I believe is accurate.

38:43He's living with his mother. His mother's raising his kids. That indicate to me that he's on some sort of a spiral. Um and not not something to be made fun of. I don't think that's funny.

38:52That's just my genuine opinion is that you're looking at somebody who has uh uh demons, you know, and that he could have been in some some sort of a a druginduced psychosis when this went on.

39:04He was also saying how he doesn't like himself. And you know, a lot of that is because Hollywood in general, the broader picture here is that we now have confronted the reality that sort of glamour and glitter of what we thought Hollywood was has fallen. uh we don't have the same opinion as we had about celebrities back in the early 2000s.

39:26They there's something about them that they felt so shiny and now we realize that these people are uh crazed dealing with their own issues. Many of them drug addicts, many of them involved in pedophilia. I'm not talking about Perez Hilton. I'm talking about what we've learned about Hollywood and many of them controlled by agents. We've seen now, you know, uh so many of them try to speak out. We saw what happened to Britney Spears. We saw what happened to Kanye West. We saw what happened to Michael Jackson. And of course, just what I've learned, uh, how Hollywood was set up truly, it was meant to be a cult.

39:56It's meant to be demonic. It was meant to draw people away from the church and into the cathedrals of theater. These people are performers and their idea is to attract uh the masses to uh I guess presentations about whether it's history. You watch a movie, you think it's real. The whole idea is that Hollywood was meant to drive us into um it almost like it was psychoanalytical, right? They created Hollywood because they wanted to control what we think. It was meant to be a brainwashing technique, so to speak. When you get into Sigman Freud and you get into PR and propaganda, that's what Hollywood is

40:37at its core. It's propaganda. And they wanted us to really sort of have this form of pagan belief in these celebrities as something to be worshiped. And it worked. It worked. I would say in my young younger years I was just oh my gosh Christina Aguilera oh my gosh these people are amazing. I would do anything to meet Christine Aguilera. That was supposed to be the magic trick. And I think that that now we have seen that illusion fade. And the fall so to speak or the current fall of Pier of um Perez Hilton sort of represents that moment. But here's what I want to warn about that. When something falls, and I'm referring to

41:12Hollywood more broadly, not specifically Perez Hilton, something has to rise to take its place. And I sense so deeply that that same occult worship, that same shiny new fake veneer drawing the youth in is what we are watching right now with the rise of this fake Christian grift that is happening. It is exactly what it it's like. It's Hollywood all over again, but this time it's going to be biblical. Uh I we the same players are involved. People that were in reality TV are now pretending that they can't get a sentence out without referring to the Lord. It is so much uh for me uh what I see happening with

41:50Turning Point USA. Like this is it. This is supposed to be the new Hollywood.

41:54This is the plan. They're supposed to get your children. They want to be inside of the high schools. And you're supposed to look the other way and go, "Well, this isn't bad." Like maybe your parents were okay with you watching TRL when you got home. Whatever. This is just culture. Now they're saying this isn't culture. is actually God. And that's really scary. It's the same paganism that is found and they try to protect it and say, "You can't question it now because we are giving it a new veneer. And this veneer is that it's godly." And we know scripture and we're not going to address the fact that at,

42:24you know, Turning Point USA events there are having gay orgies and that this person is cheating on this person, this person is sleeping with this person, an unbelievable amount of gay men that work at Turning Point USA. um that they are working behind the scenes with the same PR agents. The same vicious crisis PR firms uh that employed Hollywood is now employing these groups like Turning Point USA is now employing these influencers that are targeting your children. That is something that you have to pay attention to. Hollywood is falling and something else is rising to take its place. And in my honest

42:54opinion, it's more sadistic because it is targeting people through faith. And uh I just wanted to say that when I watch this, this is like it's like a new dawn, a new chapter. I do wish obviously Perez Hilton um I I hope he gets better.

43:05I hope he he truly finds God um and that he gets over whatever it is and the first way that you're going to get over any spiritual um demon that you're dealing with. That's why I do think this is a a form of possession is to be radically honest in your life. Like you need to be radically honest with what it is that you're going through. And I don't think he is being honest with what what it is that he's going through. And beyond anything else, pray for his children. I I it is in a very unfortunate situation. I don't know that I would live in Miami. Um if this is what I was living with or going through.

43:39Uh and yeah, I just wanted to make people aware of that. Hollywood is fall falling, but the occult is not going away. A perfect segue by the way into Victor Marks, one of Erica's spiritual adviserss. We all get the ick. We all know something's wrong. Like it's like we listen to Frank Turk. We just go, "This doesn't feel godly, but you keep telling me it is." Well, Piers Morgan interviewed Victor Marks and tweeted that it was one of the most bizarre interviews of his career. Yeah. Well, what's funny about this is Piers Morgan has been hosting people, attacking me, as he always does, uh, saying I'm wrong.

44:09Erica's the widow. He always accepts the slop up in the beginning and then a year on he admits that I was right. And so watching him react to Victor Marks is like, "This is the door, Piers. This is what we're saying. TPUs faith is something else." else. What Erica brought in around Charlie is something else. And we noticed and I want to show you this clip of Pierce Borggan questioning Victor Marks on, you know, just some details about his childhood that he also shared with us on this show. Take a listen.

44:38>> I mean, if you're three years old, though, how are you cutting a cat's head off? That requires a a strength, which I've got three sons. None of them would have had the strength at three years old or the dexterity to cut a cat's head off. How have you done that? That's what people are finding a little bit suspicious.

44:55>> I understand if you put your hand around your son's hand on the knife of a dead cat, could you not cut the head off of it?

45:07>> It wasn't me.

45:08>> No, I would say with great with with great difficulty.

45:13>> Have you I haven't done it. No.

45:18>> [laughter] >> This leads me to the probably the most contentious story, which is that when you were seven, the same abusive stepfather forced you to kill a man. Um, now local law enforcement and sheriffs in the Mississippi area where this event apparently took place have said there are no records, police reports or unsolved homicides matching your account from that time period. So, just to be clear, what exactly do you say happened here? Who was the man? How did you kill him?

45:49>> Well, I didn't murder anyone because I was a seven-year-old who was forced to shoot a person. My stepfather, again, >> holding my hand around a pistol to a man who was handcuffed and on his knees, uh, put his finger over the trigger and pushed it until the man was shot. I don't know who he was. He, best I can remember, he looked like a homeless fellow. So you've no idea where this happened or who the person was when you can see why people might be saying, "Come on, Victor. Did this really happen?" I mean, I let me put it to you a different scenario, which is, and I don't want you to be offended by this.

46:28I'm just putting it to you because I know it's something that can be a phenomenon where people, you said that these revelations have come out very later in your life, that a lot of people when they've suffered abuse or trauma or whatever it may be, their mind can play games with them. It can it can you know persuade them and I'm not saying this has happened but many people find some of these claims outlandish that perhaps your mind is playing games and that these incidents didn't actually happen but that because of your abuse you have persuaded yourself that they may have done is that a possibility

47:02>> well I studied and the answer is it's possible I mean I studied false memories and had 123 visits to a trauma specialist This is nothing that I wanted to go back to, [clears throat] but it's something that was still affecting my life. And you know, we we live in a very evil world.

47:24>> Yeah, it's possible he made everything up. I'm glad he got to that point. It's definitely possible he made everything up. And yeah, like I said, Pierce, keep going because we've done a lot of work on this and he's not the only one that make maybe has false memories.

47:37Everything about Erica's past, you start looking into it and you're just falling through a dark hole. Everything she presented herself to be to Charlie is and you just want us to let it go. It's no, this is who she was bringing around.

47:49This is the first person who we we got Erica home, greeted her in her and Charlie's apartment, crying, sharing across Instagram. The These are You're looking at Turning Point USA faith and they want access to children. I They're all wacky. They're all crazy pastors.

48:07You got Frank Turk hoping you saying signaling that I should be struck down.

48:11Using the Bible, the good Bible of course to do it. Yeah. Keep going, Pierce. I think eventually you will start to realize why people have a lot of questions about the faith push that Erica brought brought to Charlie um through Turning Point USA. Anyway, um we are going to take a brief break and we will be right back. All right, you guys.

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50:29Okay. Top comment from yesterday's episode in my mom era writes, "I have never known people to be so eager to not solve a crime." Yeah, that's that's Turning Point USA in a nutshell. They're just not interested in exploring any other leads. They can't articulate why they think Tyler Robinson did it and they keep accusing us of being the people that are going off of vibes when actually they are the conspiracy theorists. They are going off of vibes.

50:49You can't just look at a blurry image and be like, "That's Tyler Robinson."

50:51That's crazy. That's absolutely crazy.

50:53You have to show some evidence of something. Make something make sense.

50:57And yeah, like I said, using influencers to lie to the public is actually just increasing uh the amount of people who generally find you and your behavior to be suspicious. It's like it's having the opposite desired effect. So maybe a time to switch game plans there. Second comment, this person writes, "Blake Nef's anger single-handedly makes the entire TPUSA look completely guilty."

51:21Yeah, I've never It's crazy that they keep allowing him to have a platform.

51:25Um, I I don't see what the upside of that is. Like, was that promised to him that he was going to take over Charlie Kirk show or something? I just don't get it. It's It's so abysmal. It like hurts them. And you wonder who is doing their PR because it is just so misguided and it just catalyzes their des like their descent into chaos. like it doesn't make any sense to the public what they're doing, why they're doing it, or why they think that by spending enough money or hosting these people, they're going to be able to convince people not to believe their own eyes and their own ears. I also want to offer an update

51:58yesterday uh when I was uh talking about the burial. I was a bit uneducated when I said that I believed that you were not allowed to be cremated as a Catholic.

52:07Somebody sent me an email and reminded me or actually informed me that actually under Novvice Ordo. So that is sort of the 60s update. Uh actually yes there is a document which discusses and beginning in the '60s I think in 1963 uh you are allowed to be cremated under certain circumstances and so the person linked that. So I want to issue that correction and also uh plead ignorance because I told you guys that when I was baptized Catholic um it was done in the traditional Latin rights. My priest is everything is Latin rights. Latin rights. It is not. I I attend Latin mass. I don't I don't know enough about

52:46noisordo is what I would say. And so I always want to correct when I get something wrong. Uh and that was Yeah, you were correct on that. I looked that up and sorry, that's why I shouldn't I don't speak too much on Catholic affairs because I'm still learning and I would be the most uneducated about Novas Ordo.

53:03So, there's that. Uh, comments from today's episode.

53:08True Detective writes, "After Charlie Kirk's murder, I watched a video of him saying that he wants to be remembered for the courage of his faith. This led me to enroll in OCIA and be baptized in the Roman Catholic Church this past Easter. His physical death inspired a spiritual awakening. Keep fighting, Candace. It is honestly tremendous to consider that the push after Charlie died was so evangelical that they were angry and nasty and bitter towards Catholics. Like you couldn't even just be like, "Oh, my last conversation with Charlie." I was like, "Take a step, become Catholic." And they were like,

53:35"Ah, influencers." And yet it again had the opposite desired effect. The Catholic Church grew so much after Charlie's assassination. And um obviously I'm sure you've seen this, but like the Southern Baptist Convention, the numbers have been way down and going down every year. And I think it's partially in part to do due, and this doesn't mean that every evangelical church is like this, but we've seen too many in the public eye uh using Charlie Kirk's name that appear to be completely and utterly fraudulent people um who take a position and a stage and say, "I'm his pastor. I was his pastor." And

54:10they just come across like complete sleas balls that are actually not dedicated to faith, not dedicated to anything other than making people support Israel. So, it is interesting to consider that. Also, welcome home as Catholics say. Kyle, it is just who I am, writes, so much selfoness in here right now. It's so hilarious that they are spending so much money to get accounts to say such brainless beef.

54:33They can't actually think it's doing anything right. I don't think they realize that we've hit critical mass and we know that they're doing it. So, doesn't work. It just doesn't work. It I feel like it's a waste of so much energy. Like, they could just be doing something else, but they have to do this. It's terrifying though that they're just sharing my address in private chats. These like they're they are deranged and obsessed in a way that feels dangerous. And we knew when that was all happening when they were publishing my kids' cars and stuff that and it was it was meant to scare me and it is scary. It definitely is scary um

55:05as a parent obviously that they just have no boundaries and that I I mean I would I have no interest in publishing Erica's address. Like why why would I want to be in a chat with 91 people being like this is this is where Erica lives? That's what is it about actually?

55:21Just respond to the questions that are being asked of you. The truth is enough.

55:24Like I said, nobody is trying to take down Erica Kirk. We just want to figure out who killed Charlie Kirk. And for some reason, those two concepts for you are synonymous. Finding out who killed Charlie Kirk is akin to taking down Erica Kirk. Why is that?

55:42Why is that? That's what we're getting from you. Ben the Beast rides. Huge fan of yours and Andrew Tate. I love the interview that you did with him. What are your thoughts on his most recent arrest? In my opinion, it's another Matrix attack. Keep up the amazing work.

55:54So, I had gotten very like whenever I comment on things, I always want to take the time to read files and understand what's happening and give offer my like, you know, I guess non-legal perspective.

56:03Like, I'm definitely not a legal professional, but I do feel like I understand legal documents. And I was very much involved in reading through his Romanian documents when the charges were against him. And I said, "This case is going to fall apart." And people came at me and were like, "How could you?"

56:15And then the case fell apart. I had never seen such clear evidence that the girl uh there were actual literal text messages in WhatsApp of of her describing what she was doing and trying to get a free ride to Paris or London.

56:28And so I gave my opinion on that because I felt like my opinion was educated. I have not had time uh given everything that's going on to look into the UK case. I always felt like Romania was kind of holding him because the UK wanted them. And so I've just been the only thing I know right now are the headlines which is like this is a case from just like Russell Brand. It's like very a long time ago. I need to go through the documents and I am intending to do that and to give my opinion on what's actually happening in the UK.

56:54Obviously it is utter madness that um Andrew and Tristan Tate are in solitary confinement and just and uh we are living in a time where he got taken in Florida the home of Jeffrey Epstein and Jeffrey Epstein just lived the greatest life there. nobody that is a part of the Pepsi network has been taken down. In fact, they have been covered up um and have been protected by this administration. And so my mind just goes to just that understanding immediately that if our any government was actually committed to taking down traffickers, we the entire Epstein um list and the people who were benefited and had

57:32relationship with Epste and went on to that island would be exposed and yet they are in power. So there's that. But I do intend to get into exactly the case and and to explain to the public what's going on with that. Tony Hill writes, "Hi Candace. Congratulations on the new baby. I'm always so happy for you every time. Except I know that you that the time will come where you have to take a break from the show to welcome the baby as I sit with Candace withdrawals. Lol.

57:53Thank you for showing us true strength.

57:54We love you." Yes, maternity leave always comes with the news of the new baby. And I do miss you guys and uh it's it is it just it's going to come around so quickly and then um I'll be gone, but then I'll be back. So there's that. and we'll have time to uh do a lot of research, which I can't wait for. That's why we take off every sixth or seventh week, whatever it is we do here, so that we can research uh because there's a lot of information and a lot of stuff that's coming out. And of course, um they're going to be announcing soon, I guess September, less like what is it, September 5th, Ashley, that they're

58:28supposed to be saying whether or not they're going to go through with the Tyler Robinson trial.

58:34September 1st. Okay. Yeah. So, less than a month and that's going to open a whole new can of worms. Like I said, I'm hoping it goes through. I I I I want to see this thing through and see what this looks like and how they lie and how deep this is. So, there's that. I I um certainly don't think Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk on a rooftop and acted alone. Olympia writes, "It sounds like Perez had a psychotic break. It's very sad, but honestly, when you live a life like that, you invite demonic activity into your world, in my opinion.

59:06I agree. I agree. Um, all that glitters is not gold. And he's now at a he's a later phase in his life. He's understanding that his relationships were not real. Um, the what he did for a living really was not real. And he I think he's kind of floundering. He doesn't know who he is or what his identity is um outside of that early fame that he enjoyed. And that is why it is so important to build a life of substance. Uh a life with family, a life with friends that are not pursuing the uh public eye. Like when we laughed, I remember that guy Adam on PBD was like, "Where are Candace's famous friends?"

59:43Like what a bizarre thing to say. What does that mean? That's pursue real things in your life, things that are filling. And um yeah, you will be fulfilled. There's that. and have faith.

59:58That is the I really hope for him that he finds true faith. I think he's kind of in the wilderness right now. Lola Wild writes, "I love you, Candace. Let's give him grace. What if he was doing it for his kids because they were getting payback through a humili humiliation ritual or sacrifice one of his kids?

60:14Maybe leaving the cruy Hollywood cult.

60:17Pray for the kids." Absolutely. Pray for the kids. And I'm I'm giving him grace.

60:21I don't have anything bad to say about Perez Hilton. Like, he's never done anything to me that I know of. Maybe he has maybe there was actually an article or two that someone told me about. I it's just it's all it's not relevant to me and what I'm doing here. I just think that there is a broader conversation that needs to happen about what this symbolizes. And yes, there are elements of this that are demonic. And yes, you should pray for everybody, even your enemies, um when they are dealing with a spiritual possession. I'm just saying that we are watching and we have been watching the collapse of Hollywood. He

60:52signifies that moment in a way. and be aware of where that's reemerging cuz that's it's it's the fake faith grift. I think we all see that exact same thing with a Bible bend which is to me even more deeply demonic to be true to be honest. Okay. Um I think I answer everything. Oh, Damn it writes to all of her detractors. I must say there is a beautiful soul glowing within Candace Owens. There is a beautiful soul growing, I should say, within. Um, you know, just I just love my kids. They're so great. And I just have tons of kids, guys. I I just should say that. They just make you laugh.

61:30They're so funny. They're especially at this age where they don't know anything, but they think they know everything. And just the things that they say are just watching the way their brains work. I just every single day without fail, there's just a moment where I am just laughing so hard at something that one of my children has said. And it's it is important to give yourself that perspective, too, dealing with little people problems. Um, it, you know, it just makes me happy every day. That's I think that's the reason why I'm happy is because I have kids and they add joy to my life and I have a a full family life.

62:03Anyway, if you would like to support the show, you know what to do. Go to candace.com, buy some merch. Especially now that we've learned about this group chat, I think it's appropriate for you to buy a stop anti-andism. There's this is obviously a league that we are fighting. It's it's never been worse. Uh the anti- candism that is going on, the coordination 92 people, it's it's the right thing to do to show people that you won't deal with this kind of hate.

62:25It's a hate that mutates. It grows in group chats. They put uh my address there. It's getting dangerous. We need textbooks. We need textbooks to teach children. We need laws passed in Congress. This is a way that you can join um and show your support uh for me and again stand against strongly against anti-anism. It has been especially uh strong in the last year. So anyway you guys uh thank you so much. You know I love you guys. We will see you tomorrow.

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