Candace Owens accuses Turning Point USA of orchestrating a disingenuous PR stunt and attempting to cover up the details surrounding Charlie Kirk's assassination by insisting on an in-person debate while ignoring her virtual offer.
All right, you guys. Happy Thursday. Fun little update for you. When the clock struck midnight last night and Cinderella's carriage turned back into a pumpkin, Turning Point USA decided it was a good time to issue a confirmation plus an ultimatum, a time and a date for our debate. I should tell you that they did not send me an email. They did not send me a text message. They did not coordinate anything with me. They simply made this midnight announcement and gave it a countdown. got 24 hours to respond.
0:30So, we're going to discuss that. And let me just tell you, uh, Turning Point is so done after this. You just cannot survive being dis disingenuous.
0:40We also are going to get back into the Egyptian planes today. Uh, they are also working very hard to try to convince us that that was nothing. That's just what Egyptian military planes do. Fly around the skies in the middle of Provo when Charlie Kirk is being assassinated.
0:55Well, it turns out maybe these planes might be the key to everything, not nothing. Welcome back to Candace.
1:17I feel like I have to ask this question on behalf of the entire world. What the hell is going on at Turning Point USA?
1:23What's going on? I want to know what is happening over there in Arizona. Who is in charge exactly? Who is making the decisions? Who is uh calling the shots on all of these terrible and extremely obvious PR moves? Just I think we all deserve to at least know what's going on. It feels like this company is going to turn into Enron, right? Amazing. And then just plummet overnight. I have just the lack of transparency and also ironically the transparency of the things that they are doing. Uh you you can't make this up. They are just so obvious so obviously trying to hide something.
2:11Before we get into their frankly bizarre late night tweet and ultimatum, I wanted to update you guys and let you know that Cam Higgby, remember that weird propagandist reporter who goes to the Pentagon press secretary and is like, "Don't laugh." Okay, ready? Don't laugh.
2:26And then proceeds to ask if they heard about France's assassination attempt on my life, which I also said in that France was on the ground the day on the day that Charlie was assassinated. Yeah, this Cam Higgby, take a listen.
2:41as well.
2:42>> Yeah. So, this is my first question and don't laugh. Does the DO have any evidence at all of a French military plot to assassinate Candace Owens?
2:53>> That is an interesting question. Um, not that I'm aware of. Uh, but, you know, interesting question. I can try to find out and maybe let you know. Uh, I think that might be more of a law enforcement matter though.
3:07So, I brought that up because it was just so um propagandist, so in our faces. I I obviously did not think that this was going to lead back to Turning Point USA, but little did I know that we can add Cam Higgby onto our list of brand new.
3:23You know, everyone was just so brand new on that day. Uh everyone was so brand new leading up to Charlie's assassination. Well, Cam Higgby is on the payroll of Turning Point USA beginning in August of this year. So, in theory, Cam Higgby, who is laughing off the idea of an assassination attempt, is being paid by the very organization that just had its leader assassinated in broad daylight in front of the entire world. I find that to be interesting.
3:49Who directed him to ask that question?
3:51I'm just asking questions. But first, after my episode yesterday, I expected Call Me Crazy.
4:00I expected that Turning Point would reach out to me via text, via email, that they would instantly follow up with their long diet tribe and be sincere and say, "Okay, here are some dates and some times. When would you like to make this happen?" We're going to set up this great debate. Rather, instead of hearing anything from Turning Point, I heard from Skyler, my executive producer, this morning via text, which I'm going to show you, that I was somehow already 9 hours into a 24-hour countdown that was issued by Turning Point USA. Uh, here is that text exchange with Skyler this morning. He 8:49 said, "I'm sure you saw
4:39this." And I responded to him and I said, "No, actually, I didn't see this."
4:44And I opened the tweet which went out from Blake Nef around midnight last night and here's what he wrote. Like how am I supposed to see this? The live stream we announced on the show Wednesday has been set. That would imply to the audiences that they reached out to me and we set a time no. He goes on at 400 p.m. Eastern, 2:00 p.m. local time on Monday, December 15th, a collection of Charlie's friends will respond to statements made by Candace Owens to set the record straight once and for all prior to the opening of America Fest. Now, if it's going to be once and for all, it sounds pretty final. I mean, I would assume that I
5:26would have to contribute so that I could answer back, right? He goes on to write, "We'll be live streaming as he said from the beginning. This is going to be a live streamed event from Charlie's Phoenix studio. Our offer from yesterday holds if Candace wishes to join us in person in Phoenix. She is welcome to do so. She can let us know by the end of today. Why? Well, I'm sorry. If you're saying this is happening on the 15th, why am I getting 24 hours to be able to respond to you? That doesn't make any sense. That for some reason feels like this is a BS offer and a really cheap PR move. There's no reason to issue a
6:0224-hour response and put this up in the middle of the night. A B there's no reason you didn't reach out to me and say, "Hey, does this work? Can I check some flight? See if I can get in there."
6:11Nope. This is it. They put this up there on the 15th. The last week of our show is live. Obviously, leading up to Christmas, this is that's the last week of our show. Obviously, it's a pretty busy week. So, I'm like, "Okay, caught off guard by this." But, you know what?
6:26I sense this is a PR move. So, let me say you've already said it's live streamed. If an event is live streamed, of course, we can make it work any place. I mean, at any time, any day, we can make this happen, right? Because you're live streaming it. There's no reason I can't show up electronically.
6:43Okay. I respond to him and I say this kind of weird how you didn't email or call me to ask about times or availability and instead chose to tweet this confirmation out at midnight. Why am I learning about this on X? December 15th does not work in person. and and 2 p.m. happens to also be the literal time that I do my podcast live every day, which you knew, but we will happily cancel the daily podcast and we'll join you guys virtually instead for the live stream on the 15th. If that works on your end, let's lock it in. Okay. We're we're jumping here. Let's let's make it happen. Okay. That's the beauty of the
7:16internet. That is the beauty of 2025.
7:19You can literally be uh any place anytime. Just send me a link, right? any place, anytime, and we can join you virtually. In fact, today on their show, they had Andrew Kovette joining them virtually. So, they have the tech capability to do this. We have tech cap ability to do this. Let's make this sincere and do this for people around the world who do not feel that you guys have been honest and forthcoming uh in terms of answers that you could obviously supply regarding Charlie Kurt's assassination. Well, if we needed any more evidence that nothing that they do is genuine and that this was an obvious planned PR move, here is what
8:02Blake tweeted out just now before we went live on the show. Yesterday, we made it made it clear that we would be scheduling a formal response to allegations and accusations that you have made. We have decided that that response will be delivered during a live stream, as he said, a live stream on December 15th. Thank you for your response, letting us know that you will not be joining the inperson conversation. We will be proceeding without you. Why are you proceeding without me to have a conversation that is about me? Why am I getting 24 hours to respond? Why do you need me there in person if you are trying to be sincere
8:40and answer the very many questions that I have brought up on this show? You guys weren't even sincere in what you said yesterday. You told some glaring lies about things that I have said. So, we're supposed to trust that you guys are going to handle this discussion all by yourselves and respond to any and every allegation. And this isn't just some planned PR for once and for all.
9:04Like I said, this is so obvious. He is being completely destroyed in the comments because what's happening at Turning Point, and I've seen this happen before, is they now believe that they are smarter than their audience, right?
9:14They think they are smart, smarter, and they're small pocket donors. They can pull such an an obviously crappy public move like this and pretend, well, we tried. We tried.
9:27You know, she said she could make it work and we tried, but the we it has to be physically she needs to be in person.
9:33Even though we have shown that we have people join us not in person and it's live streamed and we both have the tech abilities to do that. If she doesn't make this work within 24 hours, we we can now say that it's on Candace.
9:47This is a disaster. Okay. It is a dumpster fire. That's the only way to describe what is happening at Turning Point USA today and right now is a dumpster fire. Everyone can read this for what it is. As I said, they are getting destroyed in the comments. Like really guys, really, you're not going to just send us a simple live stream link and let us join you. We've had people on this show live streamed. We could have them tomorrow. I said in response, I said to them, I'll make this work. I also attached to that tweet any day leading up to the 15th. This is we can do this virtually any place and anytime,
10:21but no, they need to have it in person in Phoenix on December 15th or they cannot have me at all.
10:28Is that passing the vibe check for you guys?
10:31Or is it does it seem like more posturing and more of a way for them to simply be in the room with themselves as they all lie without any person in the room to be able to fact check those lies who have researched those lies and who have kept a list regarding the very many lies they are telling. Okay, I maintain that turning point is engaged in a cover up. That is how I feel. Okay, and like I said, it pains me to say that because this was once a bright spot in the conservative movement. It is no longer.
11:00They are using uh left-wing tactics, calling us names rather than answering us questions. It's everything Charlie stood against. Okay, you don't need to call somebody a racist because they're asking questions about what happened with George Floyd leading up to his death. Okay, that is a way that you skip over having to debate logically is you name call. All Blake Nef did was name call yesterday. All the pastors have been doing it's demonic. It's possessed.
11:29It's evil. How about you simply answer the questions and stop behaving like you're a radical leftist. Everyone can see what you're doing. And that's what I want you guys to know. It's very clear, okay? I am not asking people to defend me. You are just genuinely this transparent.
11:49So, I am sorry that I cannot arrive in person because it's our last week on air uh before the holidays. I am still very happy and I will say it again to make that date and time and place because I'm here and we have the technological capabilities to make it so make it work.
12:09Uh we can move it around and we can do it even at midnight. I will stay awake and I will make that work for you at midnight anytime.
12:19Just send me a link. In the meantime, we are just going to start investigating harder because you're not acting right.
12:26Okay, you guys are not acting right and you are not going to be able to get yourselves out of it by trying to be tricky like that. And like I said, the fact that you mentioned the Egyptian planes so many times yesterday without providing a valid answer or reason as to why we should just ignore military planes that are circulating that don't belong to our country. Uh we're gonna stay focused on that. And guess what? We have some more explosive revelations which lead to more questions which should be answered. And by the way, turning point you should be concerned about. How odd guys that they don't even
13:08they're not concerned about the Egyptian planes. They don't even know how to feain concern. They don't even know how to sell to us in in their best acting that they care about what transpired on that day. If you wanted to act like you cared, you would go, "Yeah, no, that is actually weird. I wonder what those planes are about." Instead, they're like, "Hah, Egyptian planes? What we've had to endure this crazy talk about these Egyptian Egyptian planes?
13:35You should be concerned."
13:38And I'm going to give more cause for concerned, okay? Because as you guys will recall, two Egyptian planes. Got it. For the sake of ease, we've labeled one blue. That's SUB BND, which was the one that was transponding on the ground um at Duncan Aviation on the day of Charlie's assassination, but it did not go anywhere. And then, of course, our now infamous yellow plane that carried on to Delaware uh Wilmington, Delaware that morning and has seemingly panicked the world. Right. I'm reminding you that that flight from Provo to Delaware on the yellow plane had only four people on board. Okay? that plane pretty much
14:15emptied out and then had only four people, one of which was a foreign dignitary. Now, uh, one of those individuals I can confirm was using the name and when I say using the name, we are dealing with governments. We are dealing with power and these people just print passports. Okay, these are obviously deadends. But the name that one of those individuals was using is Wedi Machmood. Okay. Wid Makmood. So we now know that of the four people that flew to Delaware, someone flew using the name Wi Machmood. Okay. Uh here is where it's going to get interesting. And I don't know if we can show that name uh
14:59Chris if we have that, but we can uh spell that out for them. I don't know if we have a graphic for that. But here's where it gets interesting. Okay. Wi Makmood had been in Provo before. Okay, specifically Wid Makmoud came to Provo on May 27th of this year. Wed Makmood came in and uh we can also confirm that if you look up the plane that he was on, there is no transponder data which reflects that trip. He was not on the yellow plane.
15:32This is what's very interesting. He was aboard another Egyptian military plane and the tail number for that plane is S U BTU.
15:43We're going to make that the purple plane. Okay. Purple plane was not there on day Charlie's assassination, but we now have a person that was on that purple plane uh at the end of May. And then uh he is going to be on that plane again on the day of Charlie's assassination both times in Probo. And we can drop that now into our timeline.
16:03Okay.
16:04May 27th, SUBTU flies into Provo with Wii Makmoud aboard. Maybe it's a pilot.
16:11I don't know. Uh then we've got it departs on June 2nd and it is not transponding. Okay, so you cannot find a record of this on flight uh radar. Now, why is this compelling? Why is this especially compelling? Because the purple plane, SUBTU, as has been recently discovered by the work of other people, uh was once upon a time flown with the president of Egypt aboard. And by once upon a time, I mean back in 2023. This tweet came from Project Constitution. I'm going to read it in its entirety. Okay. Confirmed. Candace Owens just got vindicated again. The Egyptian government website confirms that Egyptian president LCC flew on
16:58SUBTU. Remember when Candace Owens dropped that bombshell exposing that Egyptian presidential plane uh as the mystery bird tied to those shadow shadowy flights? And just so you know, he's confusing BTT. He's talking about BTU. We were always talking about BTT.
17:13Uh well, official receipt of re receipts just landed straight from the Egyptian presidency website that on April 3rd, 2023, President Elsis touched down in Riad aboard that same exact aircraft tail number SUBtu for a highle sitdown with a Saudi crown prince Muhammad bal.
17:32Okay, so BTU and again he's mixing it up with BTT.
17:37But we can now connect these two planes.
17:40Now, before you jump to conclusions and go, "Well, this does this solve this? Is it does this mean that this was the Egyptian president on board?" No, we could actually officially rule out that it was President Elsisi that was aboard the jet on September 10th because he was photographed at a meeting with the prime minister of Tunisia, uh, Sarah Zafrani, and it was in Egypt. We can also rule him out as having been the individual that was in Provo back in May because he was again photographed multiple times throughout that week in Egypt. Okay.
18:13What we can however deduce is that Wid Makmoud um is therefore not the president of Egypt. But he is almost certainly well acquainted with the president of Egypt because planes that fly presidents around uh military planes are not going to you're not going to just you know let just some random wealthy Egyptian aboard your jet, right? This person is going to be well acquainted with the president of Egypt. Okay.
18:44So, who is Wed Makmoud? Who is the person using the name Wed Makmoud? That is the question that we are left with.
18:52Now, again, maybe Wid is the pilot. That could make sense. But what was he or she doing in Provo at the end of May and into early June?
19:06These are questions and honestly concerns that shouldn't be expressed by me. It should be expressed by every single person at Turning Point USA who is interested in getting to the bottom of who assassinated Charlie Kirk. It should be expressed by our government.
19:20It should be expressed by the Pentagon and their giggly press secretary and press members. We should be asking this question.
19:31Instead, we're just being gaslit.
19:33Everything was so above board on the day of Charlie's assassination that they just can't answer anything.
19:41They just cannot answer a single question that we have and they can't explain why they keep getting caught in little lies. They can't explain that we're just all ridiculous and we're harming Charlie's legacy by doing the very thing that Charlie was doing uh when he died. Right? He is responding to questions. He literally died answering questions from people that disagreed with him. And they're now trying to invert reality and make it seem as though asking uncomfortable questions uh is not something that Charlie would have done. Pointedly ridiculous. And again, ever so transparent. Anyways, um I don't think they're going to be
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23:06But again, I'd like to stress to Turning Point USA that if you want to make this work, we can do this today. We can do this tonight. We can do this at 1:00 a.m. We can do this tomorrow, the next day. We can do this through the end of the year anytime. Okay? Just send me a link and we will appear virtually. Uh which is entirely plausible. This is something that we desperately want. We are incredibly committed and sincere in wanting to get answers. We do not believe the official narrative. I have made that clear. and we do not understand why you guys seem to be trying to protect the official narrative
23:42as opposed to joining us in proddding it. Okay? I am just saying how the entire world feels. I'm giving voice to how the entire world feels feels outside of your donor class.
23:56Anyways, it's pretty obvious the call went out again. This was some sort of a PR maneuver. It's why they're sending out Cam Higgby. They're laughing at uh everything that we say, everything that we do. That's kind of their their new shtick is like, "We're the cool kids.
24:12We're just gonna laugh at you." You know, uh trying desperately right now clearly to turn my very real claim that the country of France tried to assassinate me into a joke.
24:28The Zio influencers are supposed to influence people into thinking that that is just so crazy and funny. It's so funny. And hopefully with enough of them going out and making videos and pedaling the same talking point and trying to turn it into like a cultural joke, you're supposed to ignore the fact that, hey, isn't it kind of strange that neither the White House or the Elise Palace or even the United States Pentagon has formally denied this quote unquote crazy claim? That that's what Hollywood's for, right? you, all of you at home, all across the world, you're supposed to be fat and dumb and easily
25:07influenced by celebrities because like, don't you have any famous friends? Does Candace even have any famous friends?
25:13Like, don't you want to be cool? Don't you want to hang out with famous people?
25:15Famous people say that that assassination temp is just funny. That's just like an SNL bit.
25:21Anyways, the always relatable Ben Shapiro is trying his luck at humor as well regarding my assassination attempt.
25:30He appeared on Greg Gutfeld's show and he decided to promote his appearance with a little jab. Take a listen to Ben.
25:40>> As you can see, I'm sitting in Greg Gutfeld's seat. But why, you ask, would this be happening? The answer is I called French intelligence and something may or may not have happened to Greg.
25:55Oh, it's hilarious. Laughing about actual violence is apparently hilarious so long as it comes through in the context of humor. You know, all is fair in love and laughs. And Greg Gutfeld, after all, after all, is a comedian. So, they're not being tribal at all. They're just being funny. Remember, I don't make these rules. I just follow them. And so, I'd like to show you another comedian from my tribe. His name is Ace Smart.
26:18and he's gonna make a funny two. And remember, it's never violent as long as we're telling jokes. And it's said in front of a comedian. Take it away, ASmart.
26:28>> No one in the United States should be retiring at 65 years old. Frankly, I think retirement itself is a stupid idea unless you have some sort of health problem.
26:35>> I wonder if I slap the out you, would that be anti-semitic? Cuz I don't want to be anti-semitic. I just want to slap the [ __ ] out you. Shut the [ __ ] up. I'm so sick of you cornball ass trying to stay relevant in front of that podcast equipment. Shut the [ __ ] up. You want us to go to work and grind for the rest of our life while you sit in front of the thing and sound and tell? Shut the up.
26:57I speak for everybody that ever woke up on the Monday morning. SHUT THE [ __ ] UP.
27:03PASSIONATE, HILARIOUS, RELATABLE.
27:06It's funny. As long as it's a joke, it's funny, right? French people colluding to assassinate people is very funny. French intelligence.
27:16Anyways, uh more to this PR effort to I don't know suspend rational thinking. I think maybe they have worked so hard to poison us over decades and to uh dumb us down in the classroom that they're testing, they're seeing right now if they just keep repeating things over and over again, if we will just suspend our rational thinking altogether and follow them. I think that's it. That's that's what it must be. And Frank Turk has come out and he's telling us that Blake Nef um we should even though he seems very insincere, you should know that Charlie told him told Frank that actually Blake Nef is the smartest man that he knows.
28:02Trust the science. Take a listen.
28:05>> The night before Charlie was murdered, and I'm not just saying this, but I went into his office. This was after we had a meeting. You were in the meeting, Blake.
28:14me, you, Charlie, and some other folks.
28:17And he was going to dinner, and he said, "Hey, you're going to dinner with Blake and and Danny." He said, "Blake is my secret weapon. He's the smartest man I know." And uh he loved you. And for anybody to suggest, whether it's Candace Owens or any other person within TPUSA was somehow complicit in his murder, is to say that Charlie Kirk was such a bad judge of character that he put a bunch of traitors around him. If there's anything I knew about Charlie Kirk is he knew how to spot talent and integrity and people that wanted to make a difference for the Lord in the country.
29:09>> It's all just so unconvincing and emotionally manipulative. It's so obvious. Like Charlie said that Blake Nef was the smartest person in the world. So you should just accept that.
29:21Okay. And that's what he told me. By the way, he had a very busy night before. He told J uh Josh Hammer that his book was the greatest thing and everyone should buy Josh Hammer's book. He had that meeting and he had meeting with Frank Turk and he was like Blake Nef is the smartest person and nobody should question Blake Nef. It just it was a lot. Like it it was he was they're telling us everything he said the night before except for when he texted you guys and said that he thought they were going to kill him. Can we get to that part?
29:45Okay, we get it. Mikey's amazing. Blake Nef's the smartest dude we know. It's right here in the Bible. Can we get to the part of the evening before when Charlie said they are going to kill him, which maybe took place after all of that? All of the compliments that were paid. Guys, please stop. It's so fake and gay. It hurts me. It hurts me. It physically is hurting me. The level of fakess and gayness that we are reaching at Turning Point USA is starting to make me go ow. Okay, please. I'm asking nicely. Can you give us something authentic? Because that's not gonna cut it. That's just not gonna cut it. How
30:27dare you question the ghost of Charlie Kirk? Are you suggesting that Charlie could have possibly not had good judgment? Am I suggesting that I've maybe watched a lot of hours of ID TV and it seems like, yeah, it's a kind of a common theme that when people die, you should question the people closest to them. Actually, yeah, I am suggesting that it's like a very high percentage of murders that are committed by somebody else they know. I think it's like north of 95% of murders. And no matter how many adjectives you assign to people at Turning Point USA, we're not going to accept this narrative. Okay? We're not
31:02going to accept this narrative.
31:04Especially when you're lying and you won't tell us the relevant portions. Who did he think was going to kill him?
31:10Andrew Kovette, can you tell us? Andrew, can you tell us Blake Nef? Can you tell us? Mikey McCoy, or was he just full of fluff? Just full of fluff at the end. Just want really just wanted Josh Hammer's book to be sold. H you're bad at this. You want to know why you're bad at this? Because you're inauthentic. That's why you're inauthentic. If you start telling the truth, you won't struggle with this issue. Nobody accepts this. Okay.
31:39In other news and emotional manipulation, Tim P was having some sort of a breakdown. I don't really know what it's about. I don't know why he's tweeting about me all the time. Um, I hope he gets well, but I do want to address this absurd point that he is making about why we shouldn't be speaking about Charlie Kirk's assassination. Take a listen.
32:04You can come and you can burn everything I have to the ground and I will happily live in a van down by the river. I don't care to be number one. I don't need to be number one. What I care about is what is true and what will help this country and what works. And she is a scumbag.
32:19Okay? And she's getting worse every day.
32:22And she crossed the line. She continually crosses the line every day insinuating that Turning Point literally killed the guy who made them all rich.
32:30And I have to and I hear this in the streets and I it's At a certain point, I'm like, "Holy, we're gonna lose the midterms. We're going to lose the midterms, then we're going to lose in 2028." And it's because she's a piece of because instead of saying, "Guys, let's come together and figure out how to work together," she says the stupidest [ __ ] crap. And now everybody's running around divided and broken for what reason? For literally what reason?
32:59>> Because they killed Charlie Kirk in broad daylight. And we don't care about your stupid midterms. We just don't care. Like they really This is This is how they view Charlie K. I say, "Was anything in his life real?" Tim P is going off right now because he's like, "It's not the time. You guys need to be mules. You need to keep voting in the very corrupt people that are lying to your faces right now about what happened to Charlie Kirk. It is not the time because it is your job to get people into office."
33:27This is what I mean when I suggest that nothing in Charlie Kirk's life was real.
33:33So, he really thinks he's doing something there. And actually, what he's doing is proving my point. These people just saw Charlie as a means to an end.
33:41Okay? As a political horse that they could ride. And so, for whatever reason, they got tired riding him. And now they're angry because they also were going to whip the horse the ghost the ghost of Charlie Kirk and say we still need you to shore up votes. And it is inconvenient that people who actually cared about Charlie and saw him as as a I don't know human being a human being want to know why he was publicly executed in front of us and why we're being lied to about everything. That is why Tim P's upset because midterms. It's going to be my fault. Not the go of the feds for feeding us BS. It's not going
34:16to be the fault of Turning Point USA uh for lying and thinking that they're brighter than us and seemingly not caring about the investigation. It's not going to be the fault of I don't know maybe actual politicians like Donald Trump who's the president of the United States and look us in the face and said, "Are we still talking about the Epstein files?" No, that's not his fault. The fault is Candace Owens for wanting to figure out who murdered her friend.
34:41Don't you guys get it? Like, we're just an algorithm. Why do you care so much about humans? Like why are you a human?
34:48Like if somebody in your family dies, you need to focus on midterms.
34:53Okay, that is the point of a Tim Pool show. It doesn't matter what you are going through at home. I want you guys to hear this. Okay, I don't care if you have family members that are dying, family members who have died. If you have children that you care about and you maybe don't want to live in a world that's run by pedophiles, you need to put that all aside and vote for whoever the hell Tim Pool tells you to vote for.
35:13I just want to platform that idea. I think I think obviously there's something wrong with me and Tim Pool's got it figured out. His soul seems like it's really intact and it's not for sale at all. Anyways, we'll take a quick break and get into your comments. Also, of course, want to tell you guys about Nimi Skincare because it is cold outside. December is here, the weather is dry, and if you are anything like me, your skin is probably feeling it. This is the time of the year when we all need a little extra help keeping our skin moisturized, healthy, and glowing. And let me tell you guys, I love what Nimi
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37:41People in the comments are out here calling Tim Poolbeanie Shapiro. And I hope that doesn't stick. Anyways, you guys, if you'd like to uh support our show, reminding you that Make Him a Sandwich is now on sale. It's on Amazon, which is super exciting. Um, also if you want to get 20% off the book, you can go to make him a sandwichand.com and buy directly from us. And we are now shipping to Canada. And if you're looking for a signed copy, that is only available at candacewowens.com.
38:09Um, yeah, I need to start promoting my book more on social media. I want to get that to number one on Amazon. Uh, we also have some new merch on the website, which I think you guys will love. We don't know what we know in different colors, which is obviously Christmas around the corner, so that will be fun.
38:22I was going to sign some t-shirts, but honestly, that was really hard. It's much harder than it sounds. Takes a lot of time to sign a t-shirt. Uh, and reminding you guys, you can gift someone a membership to Club Candace and uh to our book club on the website now, which is new. You just scroll to the want to gift a membership section and you can do that. Okay. Top comment from yesterday.
38:44The French are probably thinking that now would be a good time to assassinate you so they could blame it on TPUSA.
38:50Yeah, I will say that was the like all it was like the number top 500 comments yesterday was don't go to Turning Point USA, don't go to Turning Point USA and I was actually willing to do that within reason. Like I mean like if we had a conversation and tried to plan it and book it. Uh but I guess they never were being sincere and I should have seen through that because why would they?
39:08They are very obviously not trying to open themselves up to any inspection from the public. They are working with the feds um to kind of bury the Charlie Kirk story. And that, my friends, to me represents an end of an era. It makes me think about how intentional Charlie was about saying we want this to be a youth organization. He wants it to be fresh.
39:30He didn't want to become the RNC. In fact, he wanted to take over for the RNC with youth um and a commitment to truth.
39:38And unfortunately, I think now they're trying to turn the apparatus into the same stale, you know, buy your way into the presence of someone, you do me a favor. And it's sad, but um I do think that there is goodness and that is coming from this tragedy. And that goodness is that a lot of people are waking up to how it works, how the whole system works, how the whole matrix works.
40:03Okay. Uh comments, we have Deb Skates.
40:06That is a massive donation. Thank you so much, Deb. He wrote, "You may need some help with legal fees." Yeah. Yeah. Also, Tyler Boyer, fun little update, sends a text or something. They're all just so insincere. He I don't know. He sent an email was like, "What's your lawyer's email? What do you mean? What is my lawyer's email? You guys have my lawyer's email?" Like, we were in communication two days ago, right? Like, what are you talking about? That is like, go speak to your employees and your lawyer. You know, my lawyer's email. Everybody knows my my lawyer is Noah. So send whatever you're going to
40:37send. I don't care. I'm not going to lie to the people. I said what I said and I meant it. Okay. I'm sorry, guys. Do I have a bad bad attitude today? Skyler, do I have a bad attitude today?
40:48He said I never have a bad attitude.
40:49Thank you. I knew it. Um Yeshira Sanchez writes, "Candice, I pray for you every day. A lot of people are talking about you joining the TPUSA debate, but very few talk about the pressure and the risk that comes with your boldness. Please stay alert and stay protected. Your voice is important and your safety matters. Look, if I if something happens to me, really what I want to say to all of you guys is go Max. Like all of you, everyone, let it never end. Let it never stop. Like you be just as bold. I am telling you it feels like when we are here on earth that this is it, like we just get 80 years. That is not true.
41:29Okay? Your ancestors knew that there was more. We are in this simulation where they have intentionally turned us into a godless society because they want you to be fearful and they want you to exchange your soul. Uh because they are uh they are of this earthly realm. You know what I mean? These are Satan's children.
41:47Obviously, these are Satan's children and they work by making you fe feel fearful. And so you trade off and you go, "Okay, well, I I just want to have money and be comfortable in this life right now and so I'm willing to let badness happen and I guess my my kids are just going to inherit that badness and this world is just going to be run by pedophiles." And we can't do that.
42:05And that's why I say to you guys, you should be going, "Max, right now, you know, you have to say the truth. The frequency of truth hits harder." And we hear these demons squealing. We just hear it like you can feel it right now.
42:19And yeah, they are dangerous. They are dangerous. Um, but the truth will win and the truth is more powerful than a lie. And I really feel that and I I can't let my kids grow up in a world like this. I with with these demons in control. I can't um this is not a meritocracy. We live in a matrix.
42:35Everybody just needs to wake up right now. Oh, look. Project Constitution is in the chat. He said, "I have proof now that Tim P uses bots. Stay tuned.
42:43Receipts dropping in the next few weeks.
42:45Go, Max. God bless you, Candace. It's good to see you here. You've done some some great work and um hope you were okay with me editing on air. I think you thought BTU uh was BTT, but that's actually okay because now we can connect those two planes at the very least. Uh Donna Barata writes, "Make sure you have people on your team to debate TPUSA.
43:02Don't do it solo. Negotiate a virtual meeting for safety." They're not doing that. Um if something happens to you, they will blame it on the French. Christ is king. Listen, just us knowing what it is and just the fact that so many people are awake uh to the reality that that the assassination attempt was real and that if it wasn't, we should be hearing from proper channels, not Cam Higgby giggling like a little girl, a school girl on the payroll of Turning Point USA. Um that's an that's that's good, guys. That is a tremendous goodness. It is a step in the right direction. It is a step into the broader awakening. Um
43:36Fishroom writes, "I suffered through one episode of the new turning point. they are fake as hell and they are hiding behind the guise of religion for political power. That much is so obvious. They cannot get through it without trying to sound like they are preachers and pastors and this is demonic and your soul will you know you're not going to make it to heaven if you have questions if you question our authority. Like what? Huh? You're not going to make it to heaven if you side with the devil. And the devil is always lying and hiding and obscuring.
44:07The truth is, the truth is free, man.
44:09It's just, it's so easy to tell the truth and to answer basic questions about that day. You're not doing it.
44:18You're not doing it at all. Seven Sheets writes, "The fact that your podcast went to number one in the world doesn't only speak to their lost narratives. It speaks more to how many people are out here craving authenticity and truth." I agree with you on that. You know, I totally agree with you that right now we are we're kind of in this new era where only authenticity is going to float.
44:40Everything does just genuinely feel so fake and gay and performative and it's a show and the fake audience applause and fake laughter and no, I I just want to see that you guys cared about him. I don't need you to keep telling me Charlie's last words and he's got a lot of last words, man. And yeah. Uh Charlie was also a human. So also trying to to to mint him as some Christ who could have never chosen wrong. Oh my god. This massive employment. We I know we fire people all the time, but Charlie never chose wrong here. What? That doesn't even make sense. It's a business. Of course, there are snakes in the garden.
45:18When money becomes the motive, there are going to be snakes in the garden.
45:22Naturally, as things get bigger, uh they open themselves up to corruption.
45:28And you guys are acting extremely corrupt in this moment. Spiritually corrupt above all else. That's what I would say. The person who uses the handle Goax Candace writes, "The propaganda machine isn't working on us.
45:41Thank God you aren't going in person. We pray for you daily. My hubby and I support you and the truth fully. America first. Go Max. Team Candace." And you know what? It's not just America. It's all around the world, right? You know, it's like the people first. The people globally first. We are so tired of all of it. It's just I don't know. I don't know what changed. I don't know when the vibe shift happened where it just all feels very plastic and I just want to like push it out of my way like oh I just when I just saw that fakeness and gayness I just wanted to like you know just like punch him in the arm. I just
46:17want to punch Blake Nef in the arm or something. I don't know. Anyways, it just it's so fake. Kerbster writes, "PO USA is now floundering up to their eyeballs in their own crappy lies and shady actions. Them treating the public as if we are as gullible as they are guilty has sealed their fate as a corrupt company full of greedy traders."
46:37I agree. And it's like, guys, we can see the influence campaign, too. So, please just stop doing it. Like, stop paying the influencers because it's a waste of your money beyond anything else. Like, they don't look cool. It's like not Regina George and Mean Girls. Like, don't laugh.
46:53>> [laughter] >> You can't sit with us. We're the cool cat. It's so silly. [laughter] Like, okay, I don't know who pul What was that? Who pulled that? That's hilarious. I didn't expect that. But like, I'm sorry. Who is being influenced by Cam Higgby? Show of hands. Who's just like, "Yeah, I got to hang out with Cam Higgby." I just look at him and I can tell it's fake and gay. I don't know.
47:20It's like I I want nothing to do with it. I don't want to hang out with you. I don't want to hang out with Adam Sausnik. So, can we get to the next part? Okay, we're not invited. We can't come to the party. We can't hang out with fa famous people and cool people.
47:30We can't be at the Pentagon Lawson like it's like the Miami strip or something.
47:35We get it. Okay. Next.
47:39Can Can we get something that feels real? That's what we want. We don't care, man. We just want our kids to grow up in a society that isn't ruled by gangs and criminals and people that are into kids. That's what we want. Really?
47:49We'll never sit with you again. You guys can keep sitting by yourselves forever.
47:52Cool kids. Can we get the real kids? I don't know. Jay-Z writes, "The way they set the time and said it's confirmed."
48:00Confirmed with who? Amongst themselves.
48:02A circle of their own peers, of course.
48:05So out of touch. So out of touch with the people.
48:11Uh, Pasty George writes, "At first, I did not like CK because he denied all the horrible things going on in the Middle East. However, after he was gone, I started to watch his videos and I saw the ones where he started to question and doubt the ones that he was standing up for. JFK asked too many questions as well. I I cannot say to you enough, I get what you are saying. And Charlie was always authentic. He authentically loved Israel. And then he authentically had questions after October 7th. And then he was authentically angry and recognizing how much control was around him. And um the infiltration happened. It's like
48:46they were they're like proud of the infiltration. They're proud of the deception. Um they're proud of what their money can buy. And I I don't know how they could be proud. It's just so arrogant. It is so arrogant. Um, lastly, we have a comment from Jerome who writes, "As someone who has never trusted our history books and BS explanations we get from the government about why things around the world are happening, even if it's uncovered in the US, French, and and Israel, we're colluding and killed CK. What power do we have to fight the billionaires or the Department of Defense?" Reality is is like you got to start in your home,
49:28right? their their system is a matrix.
49:30Take your kids out of school. That's the first thing I say. It made me so happy uh last night when I went to an event and just ran into this woman who said, "We took my kids out of school and I heard your podcast and we couldn't do it and we were tired and I have a job and he has a job and we just did it. We made it work." And that's what I did. I just did it. And I realized if my sister, my older sister was making it work and getting up at 4:00 a.m. in the morning at 3:45, I think she wakes up every day to be able to keep her full-time job plus homeschool her kids. But also, when I saw the joy that it returned to her
50:02life, I was like, "What is my excuse? Am I tired?" Yes. Am I exhausted today?
50:06Yes. Today in particular, after going to an evening event last night, I was I woke up in bed. I was like, I just want to sleep for one more hour, please. But the reward and the joy of it has returned to my life and knowing that I'm doing what I can in my own capacity to collap this collapse the system. Great.
50:24Stop taking their pills. Right. That's another part the pharmaceutical complex.
50:30Learn about that. Stop offering your children's body to the state. You can do that in your own capacity. We have that series um a shot in the dark available on canoners.com for a reason for first-time parents. It will shock you. I guess not. If you're watching this podcast, you're going to be like, "Dang, I I'm not surprised at all. Everything is fake and gay." But I I think for a lot of us who were invested in big pharma um years ago, it's shocking.
50:53It'll be shocking for you. Gift that to a friend. Um like I said, that came from the left. The left was on it with big pharma long before the right was on in on it. Um something else you can do is stop signing up your sons for war, right? Let him pull rant and scream and say, "Who's going to fight our wars next week?" Huh? What is she doing? Who's going to fight our wars? Doesn't she care?
51:18No, I don't. I don't care. Seriously, I'm so off of the government stuff. I am like, you give us honesty. You give us truth or you can go after yourselves.
51:28All of you, everywhere, all of that, all over the world. I'm not signing up uh my sons as Christians to go fight and slaughter other Christians. Okay? not signing up my sons to believe that our biggest threat is Muslims, but we just somehow can't stop bombing innocents in their countries. We're out. We're done.
51:46Okay. Send your kids, by the way. Think Tim, you just had a child. Bless you.
51:51Hope that changes you. And um but you know, when he comes of age, you send him. Sign up yourself. Love it so much.
51:58You love it so much. It's all about the votes. Ensuring the votes. Do it after you, my dear. After you. or should we let Ace um the comedian tell you how we really feel about it? Anyways, we'll see you guys tomorrow.
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