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Erika Kirk Calls Me "That B*tch”. More Exclusive Photos From Charlie's SUV. | Ep 363

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0:01All right, you guys, happy Tuesday. So, rather unexpectedly yesterday, I was informed by a Daily Mail reporter who seeking comment that Ericka Kirk was about to go on the attack against me in the press. The article did drop yesterday evening, and it is quite shocking.

0:18Ericka, according to a family friend, refers to me as that b i t c h, that b in the privacy, I guess, of her own comfort of her home and at the office. I actually quite appreciated the article, and I'm going to tell you why that is.

0:36But, first, we have two more never-before-seen photos of the SUV that Charlie was transported to the hospital in, and there's another interesting object that might complicate, or perhaps further clarify, matters of what happened.

0:51Also, if you are paying attention, Turning Point is attempting to shift the public discussion in a very dangerous way.

1:00They keep equating what they term to be conspiracy theories about Charlie's death. What they mean is people asking questions with Sandy Hook victims.

1:11They're calling this like Sandy Hook victimization.

1:13They are signaling, again, if you are paying attention, that they want people, or maybe just one particular person, to be bankrupted for asking mean- meaningful questions about their founder's death. So, we should discuss that. It's very important.

1:29Welcome back to Candace.

1:46Where to begin? Well, let's begin with that car ride to the hospital, that increasingly complicated approximately 7-minute ride to the hospital, approximate 7 minutes, right?

1:58As usual, I would like to simply have answers provided. Look, I I don't want to be the person that's constantly on a hunt for basic answers. That's not a good use of my time. That's my most precious resource, by the way, time.

2:11I don't want to be working on side quests like helping Blake Neff remember what he was doing in Salt Lake City that morning, who he was with.

2:20I want to waste my time having to referee fights between Frank Turek and Frank Turek. I'd rather not do that. I'd rather we all just sit down for an open and public forum where every question is asked, the public gets to consume that, and everyone can feel better and end this quest.

2:38But, of course, from the very beginning, as we have all seen, Turning Point USA employees and Charlie Kirk Show employees have just been stonewalling us, right? It's been the opposite of helpful. Uh they have not been forthcoming about anything. They're growing increasingly accusatory. They just want us to honor Charlie by honoring the widow with our cold, hard cash. That is what the messaging has felt like.

3:04I cannot do that. In fact, I have failed at obeying that mandate. Rather, from the very beginning of this thing, I have been gathering information and evidence, which I thought initially, and many would think that Turning Point USA would be grateful for it, but that's what they would be using their resources for. If you're going to overwork people at Turning Point USA and tell your employees to get to the office, why not just gather every piece of information you can about that day?

3:30I'd prefer that over a T-shirt and a tent.

3:35Anyway, we continue.

3:37We persist.

3:39And today, we do so with two more never-before-seen photos of the SUV that transported Charlie to the hospital, and I'm going to show you the first. Here it is.

3:51So, this is, to be clear, the back seat door, left side, driver side, and it is what is shoved into that little pocket there that has caught our eye. What is in that door compartment? Let's zoom in.

4:13Wow.

4:14Now, we cannot definitively state what it is. What I can tell you is that across the board in our little orbits at home independent double-blind study, if you will, everyone immediately saw a glove, myself included. Take that for what it's worth.

4:29I mean, I went up to my husband, zoomed in, gave him no context, as usual. I said, "What do you see, honey?" And he said, "A leather glove." Someone else said nitrile gloves.

4:38Uh sent it to Baron Coleman, he said gloves. The material of the glove has varied, but no one has offered anything else in terms of what they see.

4:48And so, I can we just decided to grab some gloves, right? We from our one leather, one nitrile, and took a look at that.

4:57When I say nitrile gloves, think like chef gloves um that you see them wearing. That's a that's a nitrile glove that's kind of made from a synthetic rubber.

5:05So, we decided to take our little experiment further because I was then going, "That looks like the end like it's just folded on itself. That looks like it's the entry to the glove.

5:15Someone just took off their gloves and threw it in there." We decided to do some science here.

5:21We can recreate it. I have nitrile gloves. We decided to then just drop some in a car door for comparison, and here is what we came up with.

5:30There you go. That is in our door. We'll show you again. That is in our door.

5:36We'll show you again.

5:37That's our door, nitrile gloves. And again, our door, nitrile gloves. I think we can do a side-by-side. Did we do a side-by-side for comparison?

5:47Um and in order to get that image, just to be clear, we had to wear the glove, have uh somebody wear the glove, take off the glove like this, so that top that you're seeing is technically inside out, right?

6:00And then just thrown into the side like so. We didn't have up the exact same car, obviously. That's a smaller compartment. Ours is wider.

6:12I think it looks like it's a glove.

6:20Which, of course, leads us to the next question. Why would there be a glove, any kind of glove, for that matter, um put into the side of the car there?

6:31It's a good question, right?

6:33And again, I'd like to note that this glove is located inside of the left side rear doors where where Rick Cutler was seated. And you should also note that in general, the door, if we could take that wide shot again, it's relatively clean, right?

6:48This is a relatively clean door. So, I don't think this particular side of the door, any I should say any blood-soaked men who needed to be changed um into surgeon uh scrubs, exited through this door. I think that's that That would be a fair guess by looking at this. And again, this is in the immediate aftermath. This is not after the car's cleaned up, and you'll I can make that apparent. And then in the next picture, anyway, um the only place that we could see blood on this door was just there at the handle. So, we're zooming in so you can see that.

7:26I'm not sure how gloves, nitro gloves, would fit into the story. We were not going to say those are Brian Harpole's. Obviously, his hands were already bloodied. Is he going to jump in and then put on gloves?

7:37That seemed that That makes entirely no sense. Why would you do that?

7:41Why would you then put on nitro gloves and then hand them over to be put into the opposite side of where you were sitting? That doesn't make any sense that he would have on gloves.

7:50In my opinion.

7:52Um outside of keeping your fingerprints off of something, who would put on gloves, if those are gloves?

8:03You know what I was thinking? I was thinking, where are those scissors that Brian Harpole used to cut Charlie's shirt? Did the feds seize those scissors?

8:11He cut He said he cut the shirt. Whose scissors did he use? Were they hospital scissors? That's a question I guess I could ask in court.

8:17Where are those scissors? Did Brian Harpole cut the shirt? Did somebody else cut the shirt in the car?

8:22Cuz that was a That was one of a People thought that could have been a a shirt in that backseat on the side, which right, you know, that would have been Rick Cutler's side in the backseat. Did somebody else cut his shirt? I don't know.

8:41Everything remains plausible when people are telling I'm sorry, how did Frank Church term it? Not contradicting stories. They're just having different memories of the same event, which is normal. When people are having different memories of the same event, everything remains plausible.

9:02Here is a second never-before-seen photo, and it's another shot of that mysterious object that many people, surgeons included, have identified as a burned shirt. Again, we can't say that definitively, but I'll tell you what I like about this photo before we get close to it. Maybe it is a burned shirt, maybe it's not a burned shirt.

9:21Um I don't I don't know, just like I don't know why the feds would want this car immediately released, towed, cleaned up, and resold so fast. None of that makes any sense to me. Why wasn't the car impounded for evidence?

9:34Anyhow, this second photo is actually very clear and allows us to zoom in on that item. Um and you can see we're back the mincer back there. And you can just get a clearer picture of that item that is in that backseat, which some people believe to be the remnants of a shirt.

9:55Some people are messaging us and saying, "Candace, that's very clearly the letters on the freedom shirt." Well, have at it.

10:02Another shot.

10:05Um I don't know what to think, but I I do believe that uh since no one has been convicted of this crime, it is our right uh to continue to investigate it and to assist hopefully the prosecution and the defense.

10:20Truth. It's I just want to assist whoever actually wants the truth with evidence that I don't think the public was ever meant to see.

10:30Maybe they were. Maybe throughout the court court case this stuff was going to come out.

10:36I have to say there is a lot that is now growing increasingly curious about that day, that ride to the hospital, other rides to the hospital. For example, recently on his show Bear and Coleman pulled a clip of Blake Neff arriving to the hospital with Danny Philip. That's Charlie's uh second assistant, third assistant, Mikey McCoy, and Nate Walker.

10:56We're going to get to that clip in a moment, but it made me revisit Mikey McCoy's call logs. Like I said, we're at this stage in the investigation now where it's good to pause and reflect and go back and and remember the things that we were told, things that we found out.

11:08And initially when I sat down with Erica, I did not know who Danny Philip was. How could I have known? He was new, right? New as in started working full-time in May after he graduated out of school. I think I did meet him in a long time ago when he was uh working for the Ohio State chapter. With the Ohio State chapter, but I didn't know he was working with Turning Point USA full-time, and I made an assumption that Danny Danny was someone that Mikey was making calls to back in Arizona after the assassination.

11:37So I was like, oh wait, actually that's kind of weird to know a little bit, not maybe weird, but that changes things certainly to know that Danny Philip and Mikey were both at the event together.

11:46So just to jog your memory and hopefully to jog Blake Neff's memory.

11:50Danny Philip, Charlie's new assistant, showed up to the event with Blake Neff in an SUV. So two SUVs were rented by Mikey McCoy in Salt Lake City.

12:00And Blake Neff and Danny got into one SUV. They don't remember or Blake Neff, I shouldn't speak for Danny, Blake Neff doesn't remember where they went in Salt Lake City. Charlie went to the restaurantology event.

12:10Um he had Mikey McCoy and Nate Walker with him and then they all went to Provo uh for this event. Now I believe that Danny was driving the SUV. I feel like I saw that somewhere. I did not fact check that myself. But Danny and Blake Neff were in that second SUV together.

12:29I don't know if there were other people there.

12:31What we do know is that Danny and Blake were standing on opposite sides of the tent when the sound of the explosive rang out. Danny Philip was standing next to Butch Hibbs. So that's on Charlie's right side. You can see him there um next to Butch Hibbs.

12:47And Blake was, as we all know, standing next to Mikey McCoy on Charlie's left side.

12:52Now after that sound rang out, uh Blake is the first to gallop away as one would expect. He sort of prances forward.

13:00Mikey, as we know, immediately presses his phone to his ear and walks away and calls his wife, Elizabeth. Never mind that for weeks following the assassination, everyone lies about that.

13:14They tell us repeatedly that he immediately called Erica as he was trained to do by Charlie everywhere he was trained to do exactly what he was supposed to do. Immediately called Erica. Erica even in the New York Times interview that she gave eight days later, said that at 11:23, obviously adjusting for time, 12:23 I guess, uh in uh local time Utah, 11:23 her time, she was looking at her phone and within seconds Mikey called her.

13:40Um then we found out months later that actually no, Mikey called his own wife first and Erica was added to that phone call 3 minutes later. So, we're going to take a look at those phone calls as I run you further through the timeline.

13:52This is Mikey Macoy's call logs.

13:55So, just 2 minutes after Charlie's hit at 12:25, Blake and Mikey are back together and they're speaking and coordinating. We know this because Blake, who now suffers from various bouts of amnesia, at one point remembered that part very clearly. Take a listen.

14:19>> I was not with Mikey or I don't remember being with him. I think I was ahead of him as we left. And then we get out and I run for must have can't have been more than 15 or 20 seconds. And then I realize there hasn't been another shot, so the shooter is likely been detained or stopped or something, not in immediate danger. I pause, I look around me and I see Mikey and I see Mikey there. And I'll never Truthfully, I will never forget what I saw because I've seen Mikey almost every day for the past 2 years.

14:48I know his personality very well. He's a very bubbly guy. He's a very happy guy almost all of the time.

14:54And I'll never forget what I saw because it was clear in the moment that he was profoundly freaked out. What I'll always remember is the way his his lip was quivering, which I'd never seen before.

15:06And you you very rarely see from someone that's He was freaked out. And then I think he literally said to me, I I might be imagining this, but I think what he literally said was He's And then he was looking around and then he says, I I need to call Erica. And he Then he takes phone and he begins calling Erica and I don't want to disclose how that call unfolded, but he did that this, you know, your mind extends all of this, but that is happening within a minute of all of this occurring. I remember he calls Erica I around the same time I pull out my phone and I call my mom just to say, "Mom, there's been a a shooting. You're

15:42going to see it on the news. I'm okay.

15:44You know, pray for me. I've got to go."

15:46And I remember that call.

15:48And around the time I I put that phone away and then he immediately calls his dad. He calls Rob McCoy.

15:54And he says, "Dad, someone shot Charlie.

15:57You need to call all of your pastor friends. Charlie was hit. We need everyone to pray right now."

16:02And that's what he told him.

16:08>> Okay, so yeah, he just forgot the part where he was already on the phone with his wife.

16:13Mikey's discussion with Erica, we know lasted less than 2 minutes. A fact that has always kind of bothered me.

16:20I would have questions perhaps, but you know, who is to judge that immediate trauma of getting that news. We do know that she's going to say, "I effing knew it."

16:29Right? That's what she tells, I believe, Jesse Watters. That's certainly what she told the New York Times.

16:34She knew it. But I digress because the big thing that I wanted to point out is this phone call with um Danny Philip, who was presumably with them.

16:44Why on earth did Danny and Mikey jump on the phone for a full 10 minutes in the middle of this chaos? So, let's pull that back up. Let's pull that timeline, please.

16:56So, he's right. He calls Rob and merges that call. They're on all these three-way calls and then he ends his phone call with Rob McCoy, ends his phone call with Elizabeth McCoy. That gives us a total of like he's on the phone with his wife for 9 minutes, 10 minutes.

17:11And then Danny calls Mikey.

17:14And they stay on the phone for 10 minutes.

17:17They're together.

17:19Blake Neff rode with Danny. That's the only SUV that is left. They all ran in the exact same direction.

17:26This suddenly registers to me as an extraordinarily long phone call in the middle of this mayhem, a long phone call. Um a lot of things going on, a lot of people to speak to the person next to you.

17:40Now, maybe maybe Justin Strife we have a couple options here. Maybe Justin Strife and Erica lied to me and it wasn't Danny Philip that he was on the phone with. I don't know. I don't I don't think so.

17:49But I can't make sense of that phone call in the middle of everything when they're together. Danny, Blake, and Mikey all run the same direction direction. They get into the same car.

17:58Their cars are parked right next to one another's. What are they conversing about for 10 full minutes?

18:03We do know that they then all arrive at the hospital together around 1:00 p.m.-ish. Blake says they arrived 25 minutes later. I'm going to forgive him that. I mean, you're estimating at that point. Um and they We know that it's actually about 1:00 p.m.

18:17because the local news caught a live feed of them walking into Timpanogos Hospital. And this is what Baron Coleman was covering because they don't seem to be shaken. They're all just kind of walking uh casually and and we can show you that news segment here. Take a listen.

18:35>> We have a lot of news still to cover here. We want to show you live pictures, which we've just gotten into the Fox 5 Atlanta newsroom uh out of Utah.

18:44Um we're we're continuing to follow developments surrounding the shooting of Republican activist Charlie Kirk, who was on a campus nearby talking to students as he frequently does. He is the leader of the Republican youth movement. President Trump called him instrumental in getting him reelected as president. There was a shooting today and Charlie Kirk's representatives confirming that he was shot and is being treated at this hospital. So, we're staying on top of developments there out of Utah as we continue. We're also going to speak to Senator John Ossoff coming up here in this hour. I spoke to the Senator not

19:26too long ago. He had some very interesting things to say. If you'll give me a moment, I'm just being handed information from President Trump regarding this shooting of Republican activist Charlie Kirk.

19:41We must all pray for Charlie Kirk who has been shot. A great guy from top to bottom. God bless him in all caps.

19:50That from President Trump.

19:54>> That is what allows us to date what time they walked into Timpanogos because that tweet from Trump went out at 1:02 p.m.

20:02And he gets interrupted, so you allow for some time for them for his producer to print it. He's doing live updates and they're like, here this just went out.

20:10And you can see it says 2:02 because we're pulling this in our time zone. It was 1:02 p.m. that it went out local time. Again, I'm always adjusting to Utah when I'm speaking about September 10th just to make things easier. So, um yeah, that allows us to know what time they showed up.

20:27And I'm just being so genuine here and looking for answers. Maybe it was another conference call that they were all conferencing. It seems that might make sense. A bunch of Turning Point employees decided to jump on a conference call and coordinate and it was initiated by Danny Philip somehow in the middle.

20:48But it's something that I'm thinking about. That's a long phone call. A longer phone call than you had with both your wife and Erica.

20:56Um who I feel would be wanting more details or wanting more answers.

21:02Um who knows?

21:05A lot's happening right now and I I was asking myself the question, what in particular transpired while I was in Spain? Because it feels like a Zionist going out of business sale, you know what I mean? You know when a store is going out of business and things look and feel chaotic, bright signs that read everything must go, buy one get everything else free, take it now, doors are closing forever.

21:32That's kind of the only way I can describe this press cycle. Like management doesn't actually care because they're about to lose their jobs anyway.

21:40No one is available on the floor to help you. Andrew Kolb that is management.

21:45He's back of house calling his brother.

21:47Reverend Johnny Moore is working corporate dropping digital assassin articles aimed at me blaming his competitors. Ben Shapiro is on the phone receiving updates, but he's totally not involved, guys. Totally not.

22:00Just curious about why they're having a going out of sale business. Blake Neff is the creepy window shopper. Just keeps walking by the windows. He can't remember why. Everything just feels like it's it's going to hell in a handbasket.

22:14So, after 10 months of the Christian grift, the Allie Stuckeys, the Dana Lashes, the honor the widow presentations, Erica is apparently done playing the role. And I have told you since earlier this year that she's the one directing the show from behind the scenes. She's nasty behind the scenes. She calls people's priests. That's extraordinarily That's extraordinary. That's just something you should know. She personally took credit for having Matt Walsh cancel his in-person appearance at the Catholic prayer event for Catholic for Catholics just because I was attending.

22:49That's a fact. That's not my organization.

22:52He transformed what was supposed to be his appearance into a video message instead because Erica was upset that I was going to be present.

23:00This was not a political event. It literally a prayer.

23:04I spoke very briefly about my conversion to the faith and my initial hang-up about the Blessed Mary. And to be clear, like I said, Catholics for Catholics is not my organization. She wanted to hurt another organization simply because I was going to be present.

23:22A small organization when weighed against her, her power, her connection.

23:26White House was making phone calls because she doesn't like me. She explicitly told people that it was, and I quote, a woke Reich event.

23:37That's a term that I first heard come out of Bibi Netanyahu's mouth for clarity. I remember that. The woke Reich, we got to come after. He had all the American influencers around him. It is not a term that Charlie Kirk ever used.

23:50So, it's been difficult knowing that, then having to watch her publicly pretend that she doesn't get involved, that she doesn't play petty politics or know what's happening. She's too busy working.

24:02It was part and parcel of my assessment that she's a psychopath cuz that's that's really fake.

24:08She watches everything. She watches every moment. She watches me and she has been directing the attacks against me since the beginning.

24:15Alongside Andrew Kolb, who's now gone mask down. Before I was even aware, right? I presumed these people were allies and then I found out thanks to them firing a bunch of people that they were calling the shots. They knew I was going to be a problem from the very beginning cuz I'm not going to get in line with an absurd narrative. I need to know the truth about what happened to Charlie Kirk, okay?

24:33Now, I want to also make it clear, I have never done that. I have never engaged in that. I have never made personal phone calls and asked influencers to support me. I've never asked people to not attend any Turning Point events. To the contrary, and dare I say true to the philosophy which was held deeply by Charlie Kirk himself, I think people should go and debate these people. If you have a disagreement, as Charlie and I said repeatedly on many stages, you should be welcome to the front of the line.

24:58But this is a brand new organization since his passing, one that makes personal and public calls to my advertisers to be dropped. I mean I I so rich that they're like, "You're a com- you're a commie, Candace." So they'd someone tweet, I think their COO, this is a Maria Marina Mina tweeted the other day. I'm going, "You guys are literally responding to the free markets by saying the free markets need to be stopped and making private phone calls to advertisers."

25:25This is an organization that now believes that words are violence, right?

25:29That questioning Erica means that you are inviting people to murder her. An utter nonsense. I will say it until I'm blue in the face, I want no harm to come not only to Erica Kirk, to anybody at Turning Point USA. Not Andrew Kolb, not Blake Neff.

25:43As we discuss these people, I'm comfortable with them discussing me. Um I want answers. I don't want anybody to be hurt.

25:51I wish only for the absolute truth to surface about who really my friend Charlie Kirk and why. Again, that should make us natural allies. For some reason it does not.

26:03But I have to say that I did genuinely appreciate the article which was dropped in the Daily Mail. It arrived as a breath of fresh air because this is we get to see the real Erica.

26:13Here is the extraordinary headline, Erica hates Candace Owens. She thinks she's the ugliest person in the world, a soulless ghoul.

26:20Charlie Kirk's family reveal widow's private tirades against the podcaster that she re- refers to as that B I.

26:27Not going to curse here.

26:31So for clarity, a ghoul in Middle Eastern folklore is a demonic being that haunts burial grounds and deserted places. Traditionally, these creatures were said to have the ability to shapeshift, to lure travelers into the desert and to consume the flesh of both children and the dead.

26:48It's a strong occult start to what is sure to be a promising article.

26:54Kind of how we felt about the people surrounding Charlie.

26:58Soul suckers a little bit, right?

27:02And for those of you that are wondering if the story is actually attributable, meaning like is this just a gossip piece in the Daily Mail? You would do well to remember that Turning Point USA turned to the Daily Mail exclusively to clean up their Charlie GPT Aspen mess. They gave them special access to see the unedited clip that the public still has not seen.

27:20So that their journalist could then turn and tell the world you can trust the video totally exists, it's real. Charlie really did pick Erica to run the company in the event of his untimely death.

27:29Which unfortunately just so happened to transpire just three short weeks later.

27:33Remember that? They went to the Daily Mail.

27:36So that demonstrates a real PR relationship between Turning Point USA and the Mail. And as another point, the author of this piece reached out to Turning Point's spoke spokespeople for comment and they declined to give a comment.

27:48That is an opportunity for them to issue a statement saying this is not true, we have no idea what you're talking about.

27:53Instead, they just declined to add to the article. So we can assume this is real.

27:56And they list a family friend as a source initially and then elsewhere in the article they say a family member. At the beginning it says a friend a family friend.

28:06I think that's probably going to be a Tracy Martin-esque character.

28:10Uh given the fact that she's the one person that I know that's close to Erica, is a friend and is also close to Erica's family, meaning namely Lori.

28:19Um she's actually the only person that I know.

28:21My guess would be Tracy Martin because she's also been the driver behind other wacky pieces, that Us Magazine one, but who knows? But that's not the point. It doesn't really matter. We don't have to speculate as to who the family friend is. Let's just stick with the facts, okay?

28:34So the piece opens up by letting us know that Erica has remarkable compassion for Tyler Robinson and his family. I kid you not. It says, quote, "When Erica arrived in a tiny Utah courtroom earlier this this month to face her husband's alleged killer. She expected to be overcome with rage. It was the first time she had come face-to-face with Tyler Robinson, the man accused of assassinating Charlie Kirk at the speaking event at Utah Valley University 10 months ago. And yet, in place of anger, Erica instead felt an overwhelming sense of sadness, compassion even, for 23-year-old Robinson and his family,

29:11according to two sources that are close to the Kirks. Quote, "She was really concerned about being in the same room as him. She didn't know what she was going to feel. She said that a lot," one family friend exclusively told the Daily Mail. "She thought that she was really going to be angry and mad, to really hate him, but she didn't. She just felt really sad. Overwhelming sadness is what she called it. It made her grief even more.

29:33She She didn't want to fight with him or his family," she said. "She almost felt compassion for Tyler Robinson, and definitely for his family, because it's just so sad that two families were destroyed on that day."

29:46So, compassion for Tyler Robinson again. She felt it instantly in her aftermath, you could say. She demonstrated forgiveness immediately, at least. And now she's demonstrating it again in a courtroom with him. And by the way, I echo that sentiment, because I feel like the entire world knows that he didn't commit this crime.

30:05So, how kind of Erica to feel compassion for the person that they are considering murdering, to be clear, for something that he didn't do.

30:14I haven't seen any convincing evidence that Tyler Robinson committed this crime. So, compassion would be the right thing to feel.

30:23I want you to understand that, by the way. These influencers are calling for the murder of an innocent man.

30:29We We should deeply understand that, okay? Tyler Robinson will receive the death penalty if he is found guilty.

30:38So, I think I found your soul as ghouls, Erica. It's unimaginable to me to call for the execution of an innocent man without literal overwhelming evidence.

30:49After the public execution of another innocent man.

30:52When they say these statements like case closed on the basis of one hearing where we are shown nothing close to concrete evidence or when they pretend that they are being submerged, overwhelmed, that is precisely what they are doing.

31:08It is so evil. They are calling for the state to murder Tyler Robinson.

31:14I want you to put that in your mind.

31:15When you read it, they want Tyler Robinson to be murdered. Case closed.

31:20Murder Tyler Robinson. That's what they're saying.

31:23Sick. It's really sick and it's truly evil.

31:26What would make you call for that?

31:28It would It just It sickens me that so many people who I once respected are engaging in that. Guilty before innocent, right? Guilty before proven innocent.

31:40Then of course, after this compassion that she displays, there is a dramatic shift in the article and she talks about {quote} "conspiracy theories" after um dealing detailing that compassion for the man that she herself said she was certain killed her husband. That's what she said to Bari Weiss. Remember that?

31:57She was wholly confident that this man killed her husband because she has access to the evidence.

32:04Here is how she then flips and describes her feelings toward me, someone who is trying to find the true killer.

32:14The article reads {quote} "That bridge is burned between Erica and Candace.

32:17It's more than burned. It's been blown up. There's no reason for Erica to ever speak to Candace again, ever." the family member said. "Candace decided to make this her identity. It's a grab for attention, building her name and her brand and making some money off of it.

32:31That's what Erica thinks."

32:33Oh.

32:34Brand being built?

32:37No, Erica, I had a name and I had a brand before Charlie Kirk was assassinated. In fact, me and your husband built our names and our brands alongside each other and apart from each other.

32:48The world didn't know your name until he died. You attempted to build your brand thereafter and you made an incalculable amount of money in the process. Do we all need a refresher on the things that she was willing to sell?

33:03The photos, the bloody mic in front of donors, the taking in front of it, the bloodied temp tents, people taking selfies under it. It took just 3 weeks after Charlie's assassination for Erica to file for three trademarks granting her the right to his name on t-shirts, tote bags, any and all clothing. Three trademarks.

33:23And those freedom shirts which were sold immediately, remember everyone wanted a freedom shirt, they were actually very costly, those were not sold through the charitable arm, okay? Former employees have confirmed to me that those profits profits went straight to Charlie Kirk Show LLC.

33:38So that's for her personal profit. Once upon a time Charlie told me Andrew Kolburt owned a piece of that company, too. Andrew Kolburt's personal profit for Charlie. And of course, it wasn't for Charlie.

33:50So as a refresher, I already had a name, I already had a brand, I was already being sued by the president of France. I think I was actually known globally.

33:57What did I sell when Charlie died? How many trademarks did I file?

34:01It is wild to me, okay, that this article goes on and states, quote, "Erica is really offended that Candace would use her husband's death to make a buck, to get attention, to get clout, whatever it is." She's offended. That's her focus, guys.

34:18Once again, all Erica cares about is money and brand and merchandise. That's what she's angry about. It's such an unbelievable thing for her to share, for someone to say that. She's upset. She thinks Candace is making money. She just She doesn't have enough of it apparently. They can't make enough of the money off of Charlie's death. So, what she's concerned with is whether or not I'm making any additional money by I while I try to figure out who killed her husband. So, let me make this perfectly clear again. Erica, please listen to me.

34:47When Charlie died, we had already signed all of our advertising agreements through not just at the end of last year, 2025, but through to Q1 of this year. So, what that means, cuz I don't really think you're well-versed in business, is that not a single additional advertiser was brought onto this platform and no existing advertisers had their rates raised.

35:07Okay? We didn't make money in advertising. We sold zero products. You remember all of the influencers? They raced to put his name, his face on cups, on t-shirts. We're going to share proceeds with Erica. We're going to do this. We all want to make fight Charlie, blah blah blah. The same influencers who are now selling you the fed slop about how he died. We didn't engage any of that.

35:29No, we were actually grieving. To the stark contrary, we sold nothing with Charlie's face. No memorabilia. Not a single item was sold by us in the aftermath of his death. Everyone racing to commemorate him by making money for themselves. And I would point out that in our tribute episode to Charlie, our our biggest episode by views ever, we sold um and consequently read zero ads. Zero. None. Go back and watch it.

36:00It's still up. To my friend Charlie Kirk. No ad reads. Nothing sold.

36:05For the public.

36:07Our show before Charlie died was already in the top 10 globally, sitting above the Charlie Kirk podcast. And every single episode of our new podcast, since we launched it back in 2024, has averaged well above a million views. Go back and check that. So, what is it, Erica, that you are actually upset about? Really ask yourself that question.

36:27Okay?

36:28Because time and time again, you keep reminding people that all you care about is money and brand and merchandising.

36:36But I have to tell you, it is the way this article concludes that is just stunning to me.

36:41It continues, quote, "Erika says she's not going to give that woman an ounce of her energy." Kind of looks like I'm getting a lot of it right now.

36:49But sometimes she just can't help herself and she'll just sort of explode with a tirade.

36:55She hates her, Candace, more than she hates her political opponents. Who are your political opponents, Erika?

37:02Who are your political opponents? Who are you?

37:05Who are you? You're some beauty pageant wife who took over the reins of Charlie's company.

37:13Telling us a story that this just he he wanted it in the end but just couldn't put it in documents.

37:18Who are you to think that you have political opponents?

37:22It continues, "At least with them, she knew where she stood. They didn't exactly betray her like Candace did.

37:30Candace did her so dirty. I think at this point Erika likes even Tyler Robinson more than she likes Candace."

37:41End quote.

37:44>> [snorts] >> Yeah, Erika.

37:46That's that's what Drew Sidora and everybody who's been speaking about this has been getting at. That's why people think there's something wrong with you.

37:56Because you meant this article to be a smackdown of me, but all it did was further reveal your character.

38:04You have been on a wild pursuit of fame and fortune your entire life. You started doing pageants, I think we showed, when you were like 12. Okay?

38:14Sixth grade, maybe? And you have not stopped wanting to be in the spotlight.

38:18Every person you have dated has has had some degree of fame and you saw Charlie as your ticket to more fame.

38:26And then you finally got it, in your view. When you walked out in a white pantsuit with sparklers behind you, and you sucked all of that in, that was it.

38:34That was the moment. We look back at those photos of people at the memorial, I have never seen such glee and such happiness.

38:44You clinked glasses, you guys then went to a restaurant, you celebrated.

38:48Finally, Erica. Finally for you, after decades of trying, you had made it into the spotlight, and everybody loved you.

38:58Brand, merchandising, shirts. You got on that Zoom call.

39:02The sales have been crazy. 50,000 shirts sold, and kicked back into the LLC that me and the Charlie Kirk Show people own. For Charlie. For Charlie.

39:16And then it all came crashing down, because maybe Charlie had an actual friend.

39:23That's what's annoying.

39:25Me, I'm the renegade. I'm the one thing He had an actual friend who wasn't content to sell a T-shirt and move on, and then sell some fed slop and move on, because the price was right. That's what you're upset about, Erica. Money and fame. There is no substance in this article, because there is no substance in you.

39:45And that's my opinion. Not a call for you to get hurt, but me demonstrating that you have a character flaw, that you are not even aware of.

39:54We'll be right back after a brief break.

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42:49So, what is Turning Point USA, Erica Francebay planning now? They're very angry, that is obvious. The influencers are angry because they are losing and they are losing not because they didn't have enough money, not because they didn't have enough people who were willing to sell their souls and make videos and try to hypnotize the public into believing anything but their own eyes.

43:14Well, I noticed something.

43:15Three times I just said, "This is very weird." Suddenly, as soon as the Tyler Robinson trial began, these same influencers who have been attacking me are all raising the matter of Sandy Hook.

43:28It's very strange. I'll show you this.

43:30Seth Dillon, resident liar, Hampton's guy.

43:33He writes, "The main reason Alex Jones was held liable was not that he questioned an official narrative. It was that he repeatedly and callously made false accusations about specific people.

43:43He claimed the Sandy Hook shooting was staged, that the grieving parents were crisis actors, and that they were knowingly participating in fraud.

43:50His false claims made for clicks and fame were damaging, severe understatement, and led to harassment and threats against grieving innocent people. So, his protected opinion defense failed. The First Amendment protects the right to criticize events and to criticize official accounts, but does not provide blanket immunity for defamation. Oh, how interesting. Sub Dylan from the Hampstead. This feels like a bit of foretelling to me. This is how these people operate. You always know what is coming down the pipeline because they just start signaling.

44:21Today, Tim Pool tweets, "If you want to get amplified on YouTube and X, all you need to do is claim the official story of Charlie Kirk's assassination is a cover-up and there's a conspiracy. Why is social media amplifying this so much? Why does Big Tech want this narrative to be front and center?"

44:36I don't think they do. I think the majority of people believe this, Tim. He goes on, "Alex Jones made claims about Sandy Hook and he was destroyed. His company was sold off to try to humiliate him. What is the difference here? You can claim one story is true, but the other results in your company's total annihilation?

44:51YouTube has rules around conspiracy.

44:53Specifically, they were strict conspiracy claims and amplify what they call authoritative news sources. Why is YouTube boosting these videos in the algorithm? Why does the machine want this narrative so badly? Contrast this with COVID, you'd get demonetized instantly if you talked about COVID in the early days. We couldn't even read news reports about out of China that discussed the basics."

45:14He's basically saying, "State, where are you?

45:17Where are you, state? What is the state going to do about the fact that people are using their common sense?" So now we are going to tie it to children being murdered in Connecticut.

45:29And he wasn't the only one. Again, this is all happening Kyle Rittenhouse trial. They're all talking about Sandy Hook.

45:35Blake Neff was on a Twitter space and he similarly similarly and specifically compared me to Alex Jones and Sandy Hook. This is a talking point that is being distributed and it's a dangerous one. Take a listen to what he had to say.

45:48>> Nothing compares remotely to the fact that Candace Owens has spent a sustained 10 months making effectively every episode of her show finding some new way to target Erica, target Turning Point, target other people who are in the Turning Point universe, target random family members of theirs as happened at times, for 10 months in pursuit of a conspiracy theory that has literally never had anything to back it up. Like it is it inspires comment and notice because there really is essentially nothing like it that I can recall in my lifetime. Like even even as it compares and even the stuff with the Sandy Hook

46:31parents, that was the stuff a few people ran with and I don't I just don't think it ever like Alex Jones got sued for it.

46:36I don't think Alex Jones made that the only subject of the show for a 10-month period. Uh and that's what's happened here. I I just have never seen anything like it in my life.

46:46>> Again, they are priming the public to see that this is just like Sandy Hook. This is no different. I've never seen It's actually almost worse than what Alex Jones did because he didn't go on for 10 months. You know what, Blake?

46:59I don't think Alex Jones lost a child at Sandy Hook. He probably would have gone harder in the paint.

47:04When you know someone that's involved, you go harder, okay? That's just That's just the reality of things. I care deeply, okay? Because I came up along Charlie, and if Charlie's not safe in the political space, neither am I.

47:17Certainly not with you guys speaking like this. That also was the point of the NCRI um NCRI report. That report is that going to be used in as evidence?

47:27Look, harassment, that is what they took Alex Jones down for. He said something, which he has apologized before and said was wrong. He speculated that the children didn't actually die that day, and then they came after him for emotional harassment, stress, whatever the claims were, and they sued him and won for $1.4 billion, effectively ending his InfoWars platform, suing him into bankruptcy.

47:52And I want to be clear, they're also putting people on their show to say, you know, Erica's just like the parents at um Sandy Hook. That's This is the priming.

48:02They all know something that we don't know. They're not all kind of going back to Sandy Hook for no reason. Here is Viva Frei on the Charlie Kirk Show. Take a listen.

48:10>> We're living in a world where people have sort of gotten back into the realm of the Alex Jones InfoWars Sandy Hook level psychotic conspiracy everywhere.

48:20Where now people are saying, all right, I believe everything we're being told is a lie, so I'm going to not believe anything except for that which I've convinced myself of already.

48:30I don't know if Tyler Robinson pulled the trigger. I don't know if he was on the roof and he was the one who who fired the gun. I know what the preliminary evidence looks like right now, and I know it's being adduced at the preliminary hearing.

48:42But the insane conspiracy theories that are being floated, that are implicating everyone and anyone involved, that are unsubstantiated and unfalsifiable in their vagueness, I mean I I I'm seeing Sandy Hook 2.0 recurring right now. I appreciate there are some issues with the prosecution. There's some issues with the investigation, and there's some issues with the evidence. Like I know I can find I can appreciate that. But to go from there to say that it's exploding microphones, Israel did it, and not that Israel might not Israel might have had a hand in this.

49:17But until you can provide the slightest shred of evidence other than I can divine an intention or a motive, you have to admit that from the evidence that you have right now, if you have a more plausible theory than the one being presented, which is Tyler Robinson was on the roof, took the shot, had the rifle, had the moment, had the opportunity, if you have a more plausible theory to present, you can go ahead and present it, but you don't get to manufacture facts out of whole cloth.

49:45>> This is sure for sure foreshadowing.

49:49This is like this is like the this kind of dark psychiatry.

49:53Um I'm I'm well accustomed to this. They they are getting ahead of something, okay? They know something and they're priming the public to think this is just like when elementary school children died and Alex Jones had to be sued.

50:06And it is deeply ironic and almost sick that that is being platformed on what is still being called the Charlie Kirk Show.

50:13Because let me tell you what the namesake, Charlie Kirk himself, had to say about people who call for lawsuits and for people to be bankrupted because they don't like speech. Here is Charlie Kirk regarding that specific Alex Jones lawsuit.

50:31>> Alex Jones was patient zero for the censorship regime back in 2018.

50:38And now Alex Jones is patient zero for lawfare strategies to be able to shut people up that they don't like. Is Alex Jones outlandish? Of course he is. He's a quasi entertainer. That's one of the reasons why he's so popular. But Alex Jones has been right about a lot of things.

50:59And so people say, "Well, don't talk about it. You know, stay away from it."

51:01I learned my lesson. I I I learned my lesson what happens when I stay quiet and I listen to these people. I'm not going to put up with another bad precedent being set because I'm told that I should hate Alex Jones.

51:11Well, I I I he's he's outlandish. He's wild.

51:16He's entertaining.

51:18I don't agree with him on everything.

51:21They're doing this to be able to show a It's a spectacle.

51:27And some people say, "Look, Charlie, this isn't about the regime doing a spectacle. It's about the families of murdered kids."

51:35Okay, I think it's I think it's not right what Alex Jones said and what he did. He agrees with that.

51:40Should you be able to shut somebody up because of it?

51:42Rachel Maddow accused One America News Network of being funded by the Russian government and a judge tossed that away because under free speech provisions.

51:54A billion dollars?

51:57We're going to talk about this in the next segment throughout the hour.

52:01This also is an opportunity that I hope all of you take.

52:06Watch carefully today.

52:08The podcast you listen to, the radio shows you consume, the TV shows you watch.

52:14This is a scorecard moment.

52:17If your favorite conservative commentator is silent on Alex Jones, that is very telling.

52:25Lawyers for the Sandy Hook families say a verdict will send a signal to other conspiracy purveyors about the cost of online lies and setting in motion a chain of events that could shut InfoWars down.

52:42So, basically the New York Times is saying this is a lot bigger than just Alex Jones. And you might be out there and say, "I hate Alex Jones and he's a whack-a-doodle and all this sort of stuff." Look at the bigger picture. Have you learned nothing about how these people operate?

52:57Conspiracy purveyor, who exactly is that? You know who the conspiracy purveyors are? Every single one of those mockingbird maniacs on television that were saying Donald Trump is a Russian agent. You're the conspiracy theorist.

53:08But they'll never be held accountable.

53:09You know what they mean by conspiracy theorist is someone who asks questions against the core tenants as Fred Friedrich Nietzsche, the pieties that you can't ask, like election integrity or the alphabet mafia.

53:26>> There he is, you guys, in his own words on his own show, his namesake, The Charlie Kirk Show, which used to represent Charlie Kirk's ideas.

53:36And now we have these pathetic people who who an extension of the state, the very states that Charlie was trying to fight.

53:45The surveillance states, the totalitarian state, people that then use the state to punish people with lawsuits.

53:55How dare they?

53:57How dare they do it with his name below in the banner? The Charlie Kirk Show is now using the same logic that we believe that what happened in Sandy This is like a kin to Sandy Hook.

54:10People are being harassed. They are signaling that this is their last desperate ploy. Mark my words.

54:17We'll end this with a Charlie Kirk tweet.

54:20So, we know exactly how he felt about this.

54:24He wrote, "The lawyers behind the sham billion-dollar verdict against Alex Jones are now trying to seize his personal social media accounts in bankruptcy. This was never about justice for Sandy Hook families or whatever excuse they gave. The lawsuits against Jones have always been about finding a way to censor and destroy a person the left hates, and then using that blueprint on everybody else." You were right.

54:44Except Charlie, wherever you are, you would be proud to know that for once the left and the right are united. We are united against the state of whatever the hell Turning Point USA has become.

54:54Because we know it's not you. We know it's not what you represented. And we think it's why you didn't after you passed, the energy, it didn't stay there. Because how could it?

55:03You would detest what it's become.

55:06We'll be right back after a break.

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57:02Okay, top comments from yesterday's episode. This one really made me chuckle. It came from Soggy Sunflower.

57:06They wrote, "Frank Turek, quote, 'I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for that meddling Frank Turek.'" I sent that to the team. I said, "We have to turn that into a meme because that is spot-on with Frank Turek." And here it is.

57:20"He would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling Frank Turek."

57:24>> [laughter] >> He's very angry at his past self. It's a lot to deal with. Um and then the second uh biggest comment that we had, top comment, was, "Candace is literally having to do Cash Patel's job because he won't do it himself.

57:35I got an idea about why he won't do it himself. Comments from today's episode, True Detective writes, regarding the Franklin scandal, we mentioned that yesterday, watch the 1993 documentary entitled Conspiracy of Silence. It was supposed to air on the Discovery Channel but was pulled from the schedule. Black magic is real, not just in horror novels like Falling Angel by uh William Hortsberg or The God at Dusk by Anand Bosmia. I absolutely know that black magic is real. Um we've been speaking about the occult on this show for a while. It is it is extraordinarily real. And for a very long time Hollywood

58:08had people thinking it was just hocus pocus. It's not. And um yeah, I I hope that I've done a good job of making people understand that.

58:16And thank you for that uh documentary recommendation.

58:19Ryan Grange writes, please make this make sense. Quote, I forgive you to the alleged killer, to quote, happiness comes and goes, I hope you find it, to the heckler calling her a pedo protector, to quote, Candace is a B.

58:31Make that make sense. Candace, please go absolutely max, it's time to drop all of the receipts. Why not?

58:37Zammit writes, we the people refuse to allow our America's beating heart to have ceased on 9/10/2025 at 12:23 p.m. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be a fight. I I I sense it. You can see it building. The anger that they have is building and it's like when nothing is left and you start talking about Sandy Hook, I feel like there's just the writing's on the wall, right?

58:58They're going to they're going to really burn down Charlie's legacy to the ground. They're going to become the very thing that he fought.

59:05Because perhaps they always were.

59:07The very thing that he was fighting that was surrounding him.

59:10Perhaps. Think while it's still legal.

59:13Uh The Warrior writes, I respect you for what you do and I admire your bravery.

59:17Thank you, guys. And it is like I said many times during uh that healing process, I may have showed up here but I was not doing okay. I feel like it wasn't until this recent trip to Spain that I feel like myself and like I'm ready to fight again. And like I survived whatever that was, which was just being fought every second of every day for trying to get answers to what happened to Charlie by this apparatus of evil, really. An apparatus of evil that just attacked every layer of my life.

59:46Well, I'll talk about, you know, striking you.

59:50The expression crying out while they strike you. Literally, are we kidding?

59:56Do we have that Laura Loomer? Somebody just tweeted this. He's like, just to show the psychosis of Laura Loomer.

60:01Here's 591 Laura Loomer posts talking about @realcandaceo. And he followed this up by saying, "That's just what was digitally possible to fit onto a screen." Like he could This is This is real. He just posted this.

60:15And then he showed how like 45 of them were happening in just one evening.

60:20And she's just one person. This is the person that's then retweeted by Ben Shapiro's lawyer who's been suing me for 3 years, who's now suing me on behalf of Bryan Harpole. Like I This is how This has been my life. And I have not complained. I have not played the victim. I have not asked people to put together bogus reports about digital assassins.

60:38Have I had to up my security?

60:40Absolutely. Does anybody care about the death threats I get? People that were putting up my children's cars. Laura Loomer, who was doing that? Did any And they just pretend like I'm not a person.

60:49Uh full-time, these people are dedicated These accounts are dedicated to just attacking Candace Owens all day, every day.

60:57While she's investigating a murder.

60:59That's it.

61:01Okay? Asking meaningful questions. Do we get it right all the time? No. Do we want to get it right? Yeah. That's why we want still to have an open forum with all of these people.

61:10You know, Erica, the feeling is not mutual. I don't hate you.

61:13I don't hate you.

61:15I I just don't feel that way. I can't muster that emotion for you. So, I don't feel that way about Blake Neff.

61:22I don't feel that way about Andrew Kolvet.

61:25I hate what they are doing to Charlie's legacy.

61:28I hate that they will not just come hands open and sit down and do an open forum. I resent that. I resent that they won't do exactly what Charlie would have done.

61:39But I can't change that. I can just keep asking questions and keep Charlie's memory alive until we get answers that make sense that don't include naked men on the roof. Um and then forgetting about those themes and moving on and calling everybody else a conspiracy theorists.

61:54Honey butter writes, "My husband says it's definitely a glove that is used to denature alcohol to scrub Charlie's body. That's what my husband uses at work with his woodworking and his gloves look exactly like that when he is done.

62:06We love you, Candace. Praying always. God is in your corner."

62:10Um that's very interesting. As always, if you guys have any tips, people who have might have more photos of the scene that day, particularly what took place at Timpanogos, if we can tighten that timeline, that would be very helpful. We have We are now hearing from um people who worked in other parts of the hospital saying that their computers were shut down for 6 hours.

62:30Um that's crazy. That's makes no sense.

62:32They all feel like something strange happened on that day, the people that have reached out, not everyone.

62:37Um more tips at candaceowens.com.

62:39If you know anything, uh have more photos that we can display, if you caught something, if you are a federal government agent, and you want to be a whistleblower, I mean, anybody who wants to come forward with information, we will accept it. And as always, if we get something wrong, we will pivot and we will correct it. And that includes Turning Point USA employees. If you are hearing the rumblings about anything, about what's going on there, and you've seen enough, reach out to us. More tips at candaceowens.com. We've got people there. Um we could always use more people who are interested in doing what Charlie would have done.

63:13Fighting.

63:15Um Aunt Leash writes, "Doesn't that nitrile glove look like it's a little melted on the tip of one finger and the side of another? Nitrile would protect against chemical burns from explosive residue but not from flames. Did they burn Charlie's shirt in the SUV?"

63:28It's a question.

63:30It's a question. Did they burn Charlie's shirt in the SUV? Did somebody put on gloves because they were cutting Charlie's shirt and didn't want their prints on you Who knows? Could be. Could also not be.

63:43I'm with you guys. Thinking legal thinking while it's permissible before they pretend that the conspiracy is a crime in and of itself that lives are being ruined um, because people are asking questions. I couldn't have said it more beautifully than Charlie about what they're actually doing. And um, you know, Charlie said it all. He did.

64:07He said it all. And I I agree with him wholeheartedly.

64:10Dumblingisgreat writes, "Thank you, Candace. We all miss Charlie." Um, and lastly, this person Naby writes, "Shout out to my wife, Ethiopian queen. What impact do you have on this case? Is change possible? Is change possible? Um, yeah.

64:31In the end, we win. Truth always wins. I mean, this has been an example Just so we're clear, we had nothing on our side.

64:39No money, no bots, no Israel, no other country trying to take you down. We didn't have a Department of Justice willing to work for us or, you know, post our stuff, Department of War making things go viral. We had nothing but drive and a willingness to commit to truth. That's all we had.

64:58And that is what has kept people interested in this case. And I genuinely thank God for that. I thank God for that. I I can't even imagine if Charlie they had just accepted the Fed slop and that was it. And I think it's brought everyone closer as well. Like I said, left and right. And I wherever uh Charlie is, hopefully um you know, Charlie sees gets to see this to see the left and right come together, which is not something that either of I even strive he or I ever even strived for in the beginning.

65:31You know? We both played that game of left versus right. And now the picture is bigger and people on the left are holding Turning Point's feet to the fire. They're doing that.

65:40And so I appreciate it all and I I do think change is possible because to vote against to say that change is not possible to me would be like resigning and saying that Christ doesn't win in in the end. He does. Christ is king.

65:56Anyway, you guys, if you would like to support our work that we do independent.

66:00We are a small team and we always tell you the easiest way to support us is to head to candaceowens.com and to just buy some merch, buy any merch. Buy a Stand With Candace cup. That's the signature.

66:09Obviously buy a bout battle bun. Someone in the comments said you should have had your battle bun today. Um you can buy a battle bun mug. You can also join our book club, which has been a really fun read to introduce um my book for the first time. And I think people are really enjoying it and understanding what America inherited from the Pale of Settlement in Russia. Everything we are fighting today, literally everything from that settlement.

66:35Um that's it. That's all we have for today. It's been extraordinarily long episode. Hope you guys enjoyed it as much as I did. It always feels like I get to vent and share what's going on in the life and put pieces together. So I appreciate you guys more than you'll ever know. We'll see you tomorrow.

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