We were arguing about like Charlie Kirk and stuff. I'm like, "Dude, watch the show. I don't know what to tell you."
0:05>> Aha. So, what Nick is actually describing is when he was being [ __ ] really weird, Dan was calling him up being like, "Bro, what the [ __ ] are you doing? What are you [ __ ] talking about? Is this kid fed? What is this kid doing? Why is this kid acting so [ __ ] all of a sudden? He's supposed to be at the forefront of this movement, and now he's out here shoveling the fed slop pro-Israel narrative. That's sketchy. It would be very on character for Dan just being like, "I'm going to [ __ ] do something about this." and pick up the phone and call him up and be like, "What the [ __ ] are you doing,
0:34boy?" Conspiracy theories [music] are entering a dangerous phase. Information is the oxygen of the democracy. There's so much evidence out there that even if less than 1% is true, that would be enough to collapse the current paradigm and change the whole planet.
0:57Nick Fuentes is throwing some crazy accusations at Dan Bilzerian after Dan Bilzerian said that he thinks that Nick Fuentes is a fed, and we've been over this mountain before. We've had this drama several times in the last year. I am less concerned with is Nick a fed or is Dan a fed or is anyone a fed? Far less concerned with that than the undercurrents here, the underlying themes. Far less concerned with I don't I don't give a [ __ ] about the drama and who said what and all that except for what it lets me get at beneath the surface. The themes of what's happening online, what's happening with the
1:40influences that are influencing our kids, our politics, our minds, our thoughts, the conversation around Israel, the conversation around America and America first. It's also kind of funny.
1:52I've been thinking a lot about the themes we're going to talk about here tonight, themes about masculinity and leadership, influence, and what you do with it, fame and what it turns you into. And we're going to unpack them a little bit with a little bit of humor, a little bit of joking. We're not going to take it too seriously. We're not going to, you know, expose anyone for being a fed. That's ridiculous. I don't care.
2:14But, if you don't know what I'm talking about, if you don't know what this story is, if you don't know what's happening on X today, you're doing awesome. Keep it up.
2:23Keep touching grass.
2:25Stay off X. It's not a good place. It never is.
2:29Dan Bilzerian, yesterday, I believe it was, posted, "I think Nick Fuentes is a fed." And he didn't really post much more than that. He just posted, "I think Nick Fuentes is a fed." Full disclosure, I do know Dan Bilzerian personally just a little bit. Um not super well. I'll discuss that a little bit later. I have been to Dan's house, which is relevant to the allegations here, and I'll share about that a little bit. So, Dan says he thinks that Nick Fuentes is a fed. Nick Fuentes comes back out today and says this, which dramatically escalates the whole situation. And now everybody in the online right, in the JQ communities,
3:05in the Everybody is weighing in. Um and it's interesting. It's interesting to see what people are saying. It's It's funny to see what some people are saying. It's enlightening. And you should obviously think for yourself, come to your own conclusions, judge carefully. Um I want to remind us all of what I said about Blake Bednarz the other day, that you know, you should be very careful presuming something about someone else's life and stating it publicly with any certainty.
3:34Because you don't know their life, you don't live their life, you live your life. And it's very easy to be wrong about someone else. Unless you have concrete, irrefutable proof. So, to clarify, at no time during this stream am I going to claim that Nick Fuentes is a fed or that anyone else is a fed. I don't know.
3:52And I don't really care. That's not There are far more salient points that are widely evidenced just by what people do in public as opposed to secret private dealings with controlled operators and handlers and whatever else may or may not happen. So, Nick posts the first time I met Dan Bilzerian at his house, he had us put our phones in another room and then asked me how difficult it would be to assassinate Israeli government ministers. Then he invited me to Dubai and Qatar, which I declined. On his way there, he was ambushed by the FBI. Shruggy shrug. All right, so help me understand this. Who would ever
4:35go to Nick Fuentes for advice for how to commit violence?
4:41Why would you go approach the like 5'3 soy boy incel kid about how to commit violence? Especially a dude like Dan Bilzerian. Who went to Buds multiple times. Dan's badass.
4:56Honestly.
4:57Dan does have a very checkered past.
5:00Judge how you will.
5:02But Dan Bilzerian doesn't need advice from Nick Fuentes on how to commit violence against anybody.
5:10So, I don't know about that. But I could totally believe Dan Here's one thing I know about Dan Bilzerian. And if you don't know who Dan Bilzerian is, you probably do know who Dan Bilzerian is.
5:21But let me just >> [clears throat] >> pull up a picture. I'm sure his Wikipedia page is wildly defamatory and incorrect. But this Dan Bilzerian, he is like the biggest dude on Instagram ever was his kind of claim to fame for a long time and he was all over Instagram with like a million hot chicks and playing poker and money. And he was like he was like the epitome e-boy like fame Chad, look at all my money and hoes guy for a long time. That was like his thing.
5:53Um and he got like hundreds of millions of followers on Instagram from it and had all this, you know, stuff going on.
6:01And he has since renounced that lifestyle and that is no longer who he is. And I feel pretty freaking I feel very confident saying that. Um I didn't know him back then, but I have met him since and he's not that guy anymore. You don't have to like him. Uh he's definitely an acquired taste.
6:18Um personally, I do enjoy him. I think he's uh it's just refreshing. I find it refreshing to hang out with people that don't give a [ __ ] and will say exactly what they think at all times. And Dan definitely is the epitome of someone that will say exactly what they think at all times. So, I would not be surprised if Dan had had some conversation about how [ __ ] up Israel is and what really needs to be done and who knows. Like, I don't [ __ ] know. But, he wasn't going to Nick Fuentes for advice on how to anyways, that's just the start of this story.
6:53Nick Fuentes throws that out. Then, Lucas Gage, who if you don't know who that is, we will give you a primer on him, a really minor one, in a minute, ex-super it's the Jews, I hate the Jews guy, then flipped to like I wear a yarmulke and I I love the Jews and the Jews are the best and all of you are evil for hating them. It's super weird. He posts literally 6 minutes later, 39 minutes, 33 minutes, holy [ __ ] Nick, I swear to God, he did the same thing to me. He walked me and Jake up to that room with a batting cage. We put our phones on the couch and went up to that secluded room with the big TVs. He
7:33asked me about where Ben Shapiro lived and how he could be taken out. Right.
7:39Right. This is getting really weird, man.
7:42I wonder if anyone else has had a similar experience. Seems like his move was to invite all of the prominent JQ influencers to his place in 24 and 25.
7:51Maybe the whole thing was like an Epstein-style honeypot. I just thought he was really dumb.
8:00Okay.
8:02Okay, that is some serious fed jacketing right there. Whoa, that escalated quickly. Interestingly enough, I am one of the prominent JQ influencers that Dan invited to his place in 24 and 25, and I'll tell you about it.
8:18But, just like right off the bat, there's there's polls. Everyone's putting out polls. Who do you Who do you agree with? Bill or Aaron or Fuentes?
8:25And it largely just depends on, you know, who's posting the poll for who is in in the lead. Oh, actually, no, in this one I guess Gage and Nick have fallen behind, too. Looks like Dan and Jake Shields are pulling ahead because Jake Shields and Dan are pretty close.
8:39They both live in Vegas. Where is it?
8:42>> [laughter] >> Wrathbone posts, laugh. This only makes Dan look cooler.
8:47>> [laughter] >> Yeah, honestly, the thing that I find so refreshing about Dan Bilzerian is that he'll just [ __ ] say things. He'll just [ __ ] say things.
8:58And to be clear, this is America, and you have freedom of speech. And you're not allowed to plan assassinations, but I think that is highly [ __ ] unlikely that that's what he was doing.
9:07Um, and regardless, I don't get great vibes from little old Nick jumping straight to like trying to incriminate Dan by sharing, probably misquoting, uh, misconstruing private conversations. It's a little fed coded.
9:29It's a little uncomfortable.
9:30I don't think it's going to do what you think it's going to do.
9:34So, let's get into some of the responses, some of the reactions, cuz they're kind of funny. First, maybe I should just tell you my experience going to Dan's house um in this exact time frame. As Nick says, "I wonder if anyone else had similar experiences. Seems like his move was to invite all the prominent JQ influencers to his place in '24 and '25. Maybe the whole thing was like an Epstein-style honeypot."
9:58I just thought it was really dumb. That was not my experience at all. No.
10:03I was in town, I believe I was there to do Jake Shield's podcast at the time.
10:07And uh did a podcast with Jake. Jake's awesome, great dude, super kind, always is.
10:13And then he was like, "Yo, uh Dan Bilzerian is going for a bike ride in the canyons, do you want to go?" I was like, "Sure." And uh we met up and he had e-bikes and we just went on this long uh e-bike ride through the canyons and it was sick as [ __ ] Went back to his place and worked out and chatted for a while and just talked about like I mean, all about Israel and the Jews and about like what's going on in America, but just, you know, we just chatted, um hung out, had dinner, and then uh bounced. And it honestly like Dan is super weird. He's not like anyone else you'll ever meet. He's lived a life
10:48where he he No one that's lived Dan Bilzerian's life will ever be like other people that you meet. He's incredibly unique. And that's par for the course for someone like him and it's to be expected. And he's honestly like I don't know about his story past. I don't know about like the scandals with his dad. I don't really care, honestly. I don't judge people by all their past that is not relevant to me. I might be like wary of people based upon their past. I'm not like totally oblivious to the fact that like once a crackhead, maybe not trustworthy today.
11:25Dan was not a crackhead, obviously. But with like Dan Bilzerian, my entire vibe was of a man that had achieved the peak of the hollow masculinity mountain. And he had arrived at the top and realized that it was completely empty. And then he had rightly climbed back down and asked himself, what did he actually want to do with his life? And honestly, I respect the guy a lot for it. It's a vibe that was palpable and it is not the thing that everyone that gets up to the top of that mountain chooses to do. Most people that get to the top of that mountain do other things. That being said, the top of that mountain
12:06does come with a lot of baggage in your past.
12:11I don't know Dan super well, but he's always been a good dude to me and I respect the Dan Bilzerian that I know.
12:18Let's just say that if you needed to choose a leader in these times, I don't know as I would personally choose either Nick Fuentes or Dan Bilzerian, but I think there's a conversation that needs to be had about masculinity and about about what kind of men are in the space out here.
12:36Because Nick Fuentes represents a really interesting node in the influence network in the political space in the in what young people are are waking up and looking up at and seeing like this is what politics is. This is what America is. This is what America first is. Um and especially when you kind of confront Nick Fuentes' platform from his own perspective and his own words, um [ __ ] gets kind of weird pretty quick. As for Nick versus Dan, Dan Bilzerian is currently running against Randy Fine, one of the most horrendous Jews in the [ __ ] world.
13:11He's the fat one from Florida that said that after he touched shook Netanyahu's hand for the first time, he didn't wash it for 2 weeks until he could touch the heads of his kids. He's the one that said, let the rivers run let the streets of Gaza run red with the blood of the civilians that we're killing.
13:27That Randy fine, one of the most atrocious pieces of [ __ ] on the planet Earth. He's a congressman from Florida.
13:35Obviously just representing Israel and Jewish supremacy. And Dan Bilzerian is running to unseat him right now. And honestly, could probably win.
13:44I don't know nothing I don't know anything about the district. I don't know what's going to happen there.
13:49But it's a little weird that Nick Fuentes keeps on counter signaling every actually America first person that runs in all of these races. And he always has some excuse about why and who and what and it's all blah blah blah blah blah.
14:04It's it's a little weird. We'll we'll get into that in a bit. So we got these polls.
14:09Um let's just go to Nick's timeline and just see what it is that he said just in order here. 23 hours ago, cool. That's that's the end of it right there. This is really the first one related to this.
14:21Nick says, "People accusing me of dividing the movement or being a distraction are doing a great job at exactly that by attacking me. The biggest threat to America first is that it will be suffocated by the teal backed tech syndicate pushing JD Vance for 2028. I am focused on that. But the thing about America first in Nick Fuentes' perspective is that America first is just Nick Fuentes.
14:47And according to Nick, he is the movement and he's the whole movement and no one else and he's the leader, the cult leader, if you will.
14:56And the gatekeeper, pretty much. And if you don't agree with Nick, if you don't get in line with Nick, you can't be America first. You're not America first. He has a monopoly on everything America first. And you know, fair enough. He's been running his show called America first for a long time.
15:14But let's be clear. Let's be clear. You can have your show called America first.
15:19You cannot have the idea called America First. Sorry, bud. That ain't going to fly. Because America First as an idea is for Americans, and you are just one of them. And the way you treat that idea feels pretty [ __ ] sketchy and an awful lot like a gatekeeper. And anytime that anyone else comes along and threatens Nick Fuentes' fragile little ego, his fragile super straight little ego, his reaction is always the same.
15:50And it's always very catty and very effeminate, for lack of a better term.
15:56It's kind of [ __ ] It's the reason why he gets in fights with everybody and has basically fought with everybody on this side.
16:04Why he'll be cordial with someone one day and then absolutely [ __ ] hate them the next. It's why when I had some criticisms for his perspective on Charlie Kirk, the first thing he went to was just like rabbit attacks and insults and not not discussing the arguments at all, the actual substance, but just name-calling and low-IQ anti-Semitism and a whole bunch of platitudes. A lot of the same's happening with Dan Bilzerian right now. But the biggest threat to America First, I would argue Nick, by your own definition America First is you. And the biggest threat to America First is you.
16:46And your actions.
16:48Because ultimately like I was discussing the other day on the show here, the thing about this job is that your own character shines through. And the more people inspect your character, the more you shall be judged for how you present yourself. And Nick has a lot of great ideas. Nick Fuentes, pretty sharp mind.
17:13Pretty intelligent. But intelligence is not everything about being a human.
17:19Intelligence is definitely not everything about being a good man.
17:23Intelligence is not everything about leadership.
17:26In fact, it is very little to do with leadership. And if you wanted to look for a threat to the future of your America first, Nick, well, bud, we are currently reading his feed. Um so, this is the accusation post at the top of his feed right now.
17:41Then he invited me to Dubai and guitar, which I declined. On his way there, he was ambushed by the FBI. I don't know who the [ __ ] this person actually is. I don't think anybody does. Initially, I thought he was just a [ __ ] but he's accusing me of being a federal agent when him and his father are under FBI investigation and he frequently talks about stirring up violence. Sus. And then him and Dan Bilzerian proceed to get into a long Twitter war of accusations back and forth. Nick digging up all sorts of dirt on Dan Bilzerian's father, who I think was charged uh I think convicted of getting rolled up in
18:15a financial entrap financial scheme with Drexel Burnham Lambert. Um it's not good, but it's also not Dan. Um but I I don't know. I'm I'm not really stressed about I don't care about people's actual dirt.
18:28Like, I don't care that Nick um liked Catboy back in the day and hung out with him all the time. I keep it in mind, but whatever. Nick, you maybe you could change. You just don't act like it. I don't care that he ran Laura Loomer's campaign, endorsed her, whatever it was.
18:43I don't care about Dan Bilzerian's checkered past as long as he acts how he's going to act today, whatever. Um I care a lot more about who you are today than who you were yesterday. Um there are some traits that are more likely to change over time and some that aren't.
18:58This uh I believe was a couple years ago, two, three years, four years ago when Nick Fuentes was trying to help Laura Loomer get elected. Um and we already read that one. So, now, critiques by lots people, people weighing in. Um I don't know the guy that runs Uncanceled AI. Generally pretty legit takes, and this one's pretty interesting. What is America First? The name of a show hosted by Nick Fuentes modeled after Pat Buchanan's '92, '96, and 2000 presidential campaigns? Is it a pseudo movement that doesn't actually throw events or mass organize? Or is it simply pathologically whatever Nick wants it to
19:29be, however it benefits Nick the most?
19:32The same way Israel pathologically becomes a race, religion, or country however and whenever they want.
19:38What is America First, Nick? If you're the general, if you're the only one that can say within within what what is America First? I actually have a clip that this reminds me of now that I think about it, but I'm pretty sure it's this one. People calling Nick out for telling us to vote Democrats in the midterms proves him right on why we need to burn the whole GOP to the ground with every plan truster in it. Blue Wave 2026.
19:58>> Look, look.
20:00We have to go dark, okay?
20:02We have I I I'm so serious about this.
20:05Like, we have to be the villains. They're going to hate us for it. They're going to hate us for a little while. I'm okay with that. I'm telling you right now, a lot of people are going to dislike me.
20:16They're going to talk [ __ ] about me.
20:18Uh, they're going to hate me. We're going to have to just deal with that, okay?
20:22I have to be the villain. I've accepted it. It's going to be extremely unpleasant.
20:27So, I guess the generational run is over. Um, a lot of subtlety depending on your opinion of what Nick is up to and what he's doing.
20:35for you. No, but um, but it's just true.
20:37How many people are going to say that?
20:38Like, yes, uh, we're going to take some hits. We're going to be unpopular. We're going to be attacked. We're going to be misunderstood. But, this is what we have to do. I did it in 2024 and I didn't regret it. I did it in 2019 and I didn't regret it. And I'm doing it again, and I'm not going to regret it now. So, we did not get this far by doing the easy thing, by going with everybody, doing what's popular. I didn't I I come this far to like sell out and just uh lie to everybody and you know, go along to get along and be super popular and not fight with anybody. We are still dynamic. We are still coming up with new ideas. We
21:19are still fighting. It is a permanent revolution. Permanent revolution means it's always shifting, always changing.
21:28It's a permanent revolution means it's always shifting, always changing. But, I'm the general. I'm the leader. I'll tell you where we're going to shift and change, young disaffected white men.
21:42I'll tell you what America First means as we shift and change, as we become the villain.
21:49Not going to nail down any particular platform that I stand on, any particular values that I always champion. Just shifting and changing. Here's a value that you might champion, Nick. Strong families in America. I don't know if you would go for particularly white families or even exclusively white families, but how about strong American families? How about good fathers and mothers to American children growing up? Is that a value that you would champion? Right?
22:21Because like you're a Catholic, right Nick? A Catholic? And and the biggest hole in Nick Fuentes' platform to me has always been his relationship to women and to family and to masculinity. Because like it or I mean, here's the thing. You can be gay, like and I don't like it it's okay to be gay.
22:45It's okay to be not some macho masculine man, but at the same time, if you're going to be a leader of what America needs right now and a Catholic semi white nationalist, not exactly, leader of what America needs today and it's not going to include masculinity? Why not? Exactly. Because it's pretty clear that what America needs is strong men. It's pretty clear that the young generation of men in America have been emasculated. Their hormones are [ __ ] Their future is [ __ ] They don't have any good strong male role models and leaders. It's breaking up families, and breaking up families is breaking up the American
23:27identity and American culture. And it's that American identity American culture, I hear Nick talk about that a lot. But when I look at what Nick models, here's my question. Do you think Nick Fuentes would be a good father to a young man? Do you think Nick Fuentes is dad material? Do you think Nick Fuentes would be a good husband to a wife today?
23:54Do you think he wants a wife? You don't need to think about that one. He's said many times how much he loathes that idea and can't stand women, and and is sickened by the idea of having to have a wife, which has always been the most glaring what the [ __ ] of his platform.
24:11I'm sorry, America first without strong families of men and women raising up strong children?
24:19You can [ __ ] miss me with that, bud.
24:21Because the number one thing that is wrong with America at the core base level is the breakdown of families and of the male-female relationship, of just the regular old male-female dynamic.
24:35Part of that is the left and like the trans movement and LGBTQ movement just [ __ ] with everybody's perceptions of like it's okay to just be a regular [ __ ] person. In fact, it's quite good because that's what all of society is built on. They're the ones making the babies. And the breakdown of all of that is at the heart of the loneliness epidemic for both young men and young women.
24:55And ironically, Nick's entire following, the Groypers, is largely composed of this sort of like, I don't mean this in a derogatory way, Groypers, um I'm you're probably a bunch of homies, but like a lot of incels. The Groypers are largely a bunch of young, disaffected, not just white, men of all colors, a lot of girls, too, and largely a lot of incels in there. Disaffected, the system doesn't work for us, there's no hope, and if I had to guess, most of them aren't having a lot of sex.
25:29And that's pretty normal these days, unfortunately. Most young people, and by young people I mean like early 20s, like 18-year-olds, 19-year-olds, 25-year-olds, people that are looking forward at their future as the next generation of adults in America.
25:44And here's the thing. Our role models give us permission or call us to a higher standard. Our role models are what we allow ourselves to become. Nick is a shining example of a role model that isn't trying to be a better man in any of the base masculine qualities, except for intel intellect. Intellect is an important quality, and Nick is very intellectual and very intelligent. But there's a lot more than intellect to being a good man. There's a lot more to intellect than becoming a good father and a good role model to the next generation of youth. And Nick not only doesn't do any of that, doesn't work
26:27out, doesn't eat well, he actually makes fun of it and talks [ __ ] about it. And this is just my opinion, my perspective, but if you want to be the sole director of America First, what you're saying is you want to be a leader for young American men. And if the leader for the next generation of young American men thinks that working out is an L, oh boy, is America [ __ ] Because men need to work out. Men need to be strong. They need adversity. They need to sweat. They need to work hard. They need to come to their physical limit. If men don't strive physically, through fighting or sports or racing or like whatever the [ __ ] it is
27:09that you're into. Or just going to the gym, powerlifting, whatever it is. If men don't use their body, they do not actualize.
27:17And a lot of that is tied to your hormones.
27:20And if you don't use your body properly, your hormones don't work properly, and you might be liable to become a gay little [ __ ] for lack of a better term.
27:30If you don't eat well, if the leader of America First thinks you should just eat [ __ ] slop and it's all good, makes fun of eating healthy, you want the leader of all the young American men to be like, "Yeah, eat your Fruit Loops."
27:42Slurp it up. You're going to get a bunch of weak-ass men in the next generation of Americans. If you want to be the leader of America First, Nick, cool. Go lead your cult movement, lead your thing, whatever you want. That's cool.
27:54But being a leader is a whole spiritual practice.
27:58It requires all of you to lead. Because a a very intelligent brain is one of the last things you need to be a good leader. In fact, a very intelligent brain without all the rest can be extremely dangerous as a leader.
28:14Very fickle, very emotional, very egotistical and fragile, prone to lashing out, prone to leading men down random [ __ ] paths just to spite opponents. Obviously, you should make your own choices. You I'm not like if you're some 21-year-old dude out there that loves Nick, I'm not telling you to hate Nick. I'm not telling you not to listen to Nick.
28:36I'm just telling you to pick your heroes wisely, because you become what you give yourself permission to stoop to, to be.
28:44If you hold yourself to a high standard, you'll become a person of that standard.
28:49If you let yourself idolize slop, you'll become slop. Obviously.
28:56And so, think really careful about your role models. Think really carefully about who you let lead you. That's your personal decision to make. We all have to make it. And right now, here's the thing about America right now. In America today, the vast majority of young people are idolizing horrible [ __ ] role models.
29:16The vast majority of Americans are just slopified.
29:21And they're never going to achieve much of anything.
29:23They're never going to even begin to imagine their potential, let alone strive to achieve it. And so, the bar right now is actually incredibly low for success.
29:34If you're a young person in America right now and you want to live a great life, have an amazing future, accomplish incredible things, actually, in a certain way, it's more possible today than ever before because everybody else is holding themselves to such a low [ __ ] standard. But it's because it's really easy. The more you get surrounded by people holding themselves to a low standard, the harder it becomes to hold yourself to a high one.
29:58Hard work is always hard. It's just relative to what? A person that grows up doing hard work all the time, that same hard work will seem easy to them cuz they do it all the time. It's normal.
30:08But a person who's been coddled their whole life, who's never strived, who's never been to the gym, who's never had hardship, lost anything, to that person, it'll seem like the end of the world. Young men need that adversity. And they need that adversity forced on them, and then they need to be taught to seek it out. Because in this world, there's a million people trying to make money on your comfort, on your ease, on your vices, and your sloth.
30:33It's real easy to be suckered into taking the low roads in life and being your lower self.
30:43And a lot of people you might look up to for certain aspects of who they are, like Nick, might have a really sharp mind or be a hilarious comedian or be a really cool snowboarder or something you look up to. I don't know. But they might also do a bunch of drugs.
30:59And actually, if you role model yourself after the part of them that you like, you might be fine. You might never, you know, that might be fine. But you got to be careful that you're not kind of quietly in the back of your mind coming to accept all these other parts that might not be so positive. They might be directly toxic to your future. Cuz if you were a young man today, suppose you're a 16-year-old young white dude in America and you love Nick Fuentes because he generally speaks to your vibe. If you internalize Nick Fuentes's perspective on women and working out and healthy food just as a few examples
31:39and masculinity kind of in general, you're [ __ ] yourself over completely.
31:43Because as a 16-year-old young dude, your future is entirely in your hands.
31:49You start going to the gym today, you're getting chicks in 5 years.
31:52Not because you're all swoll, although it helps to be swoll, but because of all of the life experience and confidence and inner strength that you'll gain from 5 years in the gym. But if you never go to the gym because you give in to the incel, then you're never going to reap the benefits of all that hard work. If you let yourself at 16 start to think that all women are [ __ ] and oh my god, they're so much work and I hate them and they just whine and blah blah blah blah blah, some of them, yeah, some women are horrible. Some men are pieces of [ __ ] Some Jews are [ __ ] evil. Some black people are lazy. Some white people are
32:26total [ __ ] [ __ ] There are plenty of amazing women out there. Plenty of amazing incredible experiences out there that you can only get from meeting a woman or a man if you swing that way, you know.
32:42And falling in love and having a family.
32:44And in that case, no, really, it's like as a young man, there's an entire section of your life that you're only going to experience when you start a family with a woman. Have a kid. Have a bunch. Save the planet. And if you internalize Nick Fuentes' perspective on all that, you might never do that. You you probably won't. Or you'll get to like age 27 and realize, "Fuck, dude. I do want a woman." And I haven't done anything to make myself an ideal partner for a woman. So, you got to do the work.
33:15Who are you and who do you want to be?
33:16And what role models do you want to choose? And that's the thing about wanting to be a leader, Nick. Nick wants to be the leader of his movement. Fine.
33:25Cool. Be a leader of your movement, Nick. But, if you're going to choose to be a leader of a movement, then you, the whole you, is the movement. And yeah, you got you got very intellectual political ideas.
33:40You're very smart. But, there's a whole bunch of other parts of you that are also that movement. And your movement shall be judged on all of them. And the the sturdiness, the durability, the lifespan of your movement will be judged on how it is. The whole thing. All of you. And if you want to be a Catholic groper general man, boy, thing, the the cohesion, the cohesion. Who Who are you going to lead? Young men or lost boys?
34:15Got a little carried away. So, yeah. In the last year, on America First, his show, Fuentes has called Jeffrey Epstein cool and sold Epstein merchandise.
34:25True story. Said that anyone who doesn't think Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk is a low IQ anti-Semite prior to a generational media tour that was super suspicious, told his followers to eat McDonald's instead of vegetables or meat, like real meat, sit around and play video games, hide their power for a decade, called marriage gay, literally reveled in beating true America First political candidates, literally reveled, sorry, in beating true America First political candidates like Casey Push, and said America is so overrun with immigrants it isn't worth saving. And to be clear, Nick says a lot of facetious
35:00things, but a lot of these things weren't exactly facetious. America First, the movement led by Nick Fuentes, hasn't organized an event or made any real effort to enact change in America in 2 years. And now Nick is going out of his way personally attacking anyone who does, and in the process effectively holding the movement hostage. The latter being a huge problem because America's leadership needs to actually start acting in the best interest of Americans in order for the country to survive.
35:25It's now very fair to ask why. People are asking, is he a fed?
35:30And you know, ask away. I've asked myself that questions many times. But honestly, I don't think that is the only explanation. I think it's just as easy to explain from Nick Fuentes just being a vindictive, emotionally unbalanced, lost boy with maybe some sexual stuff going on.
35:49It's the ego. Here's Here's the thing.
35:52When men go through really hard times, when men go through struggle, it's supposed to help your ego chill the [ __ ] out. It's supposed to help you gain perspective and grow up a little, but that doesn't seem to happen to everybody. Nick Fuentes went through 10 years of hard times, of being pushed down, locked out, and that could have made his ego mellow out, but instead, Nick Fuentes seems to have a bigger ego than ever, a bigger and more fragile ego than just about anybody. Humility is hard to come by. In light of what Uncensored is saying here about Nick's sort of history of claims, I want to jump into
36:34what Nick claimed about Charlie Kirk.
36:39The only reason he did a video about me, it's so typical. I did a 1-minute clip responding >> back.
36:45Nick did a 1-minute clip responding.
36:47Yeah, the clip I was responding to was 8 minutes, Nick, so I don't I don't know what clip you're referring to.
36:53But, [clears throat] these are the types of um small, not super important inconsistencies and just little lies that are adding up on Nick's side.
37:01Little little um shall we say displays of the insecurity of his position where he has to kind of fudge everything to make it seem like there's no argument for him to argue against, to make it seem like we have no position over here, like all the conspiracy theorists are crazy. Yeah, there's a lot of those going on. He said, "Oh, boy." And then he did a 2-hour video clip farming me.
37:23Actually, Nick, [snorts] clip farming is where I go back through your past and grab a whole bunch of clips of you saying things in other context, out of context, like the hilarious GTA clip that I defended you on cuz I thought that [ __ ] was funny as hell. Um that's clip farming. This was just me making a direct response to you asking for evidence because you don't seem to know about it. So, I gave you 2 hours of evidence, but trust me, there's way more than 2 hours. That's why there's so much content about this is because there's so much depth to how much this doesn't make sense. We could go on for hours and
37:54hours more, but I thought two was enough to thoroughly [ __ ] on your parade.
38:00[ __ ] you. [ __ ] him. [laughter] There is no What's the evidence?
38:05There is no evidence. Wait, what's the evidence? Well, the bullet could never do that.
38:11See, here we're going to get into the part where he tries to make the argument sound [ __ ] but he's just exposing his own lack of an argument. You can go watch my 2-hour video. You can compare it to his representation of it.
38:27It's very transparent. We have the internet, Nick. We can all watch things.
38:30That's not evidence.
38:32One, two, there are many ballistics experts that disagree. JF Gariepy did a 1-hour video about it.
38:41I'm This part's going to be great, too.
38:42We're going to respond to JF Gariepy a little bit and to Phoenix Ammunition and to all of the other experts that have just popped up conveniently, too, um you know, shovel the fed slop conveniently all of a sudden, right when there's a new resurgence of conversation about how this doesn't work.
39:03There's a number of other ammunition sellers and other ballistics experts that Ammunition sellers, yeah, we know who you're talking about, Nick. It's cool. We got this. We'll take it from here.
39:12Um JF Gariepy is this French guy.
39:15Got to be French. He's a neurosurgeon, a brain surgeon, apparently. Um All right, so we are now entering the main portion of the show where We are now entering the main portion of the show.
39:26Um and he replays a bunch of my video.
39:28He makes a bunch of points.
39:30Um this part right here, um I think is relevant and interesting.
39:35Very interesting. And the number of big accounts that have come out and reposted this video saying this is the best argument I've seen.
39:42Yeah. about a 10° angle. That's the only way you could ever possibly imagine that there was no exit wound and No.
39:48My theory is that the skin played the role here and I will prove that to you tonight. Because all the TPUSA leakers have told us that the autopsy says that it He's not kidding. His theory is that the skin stopped the bullet. the vertebrae and then traveled down his spine and obliterated him.
40:02>> [snorts] >> also structure you would find in a human neck. This is where the bullet would have gone. So, Feneas says I don't know what I'm talking about. Wait for the rest of my argument, sir. And if you're not convinced at the end of this show that it could have happened, uh I don't know. I will I will say sorry.
40:17For it to go into the body, we have to believe it would have done two things.
40:20It would have to take a hard turn in towards the center of the body and then been impressed by or stopped by these bones here enough to get the No, it was stopped by the skin and bounced toward the bones. Now, as it was bounced by the skin through back through the elasticity of the skin, then it didn't have its kinetic energy anymore in full because the skin absorbs a lot of kinetic energy, throws back just a little bit.
40:39And that just a little bit was enough to just push back the bullet to go along the spine, but not too deep. Flected down into the >> [laughter] >> Bro [snorts] thinks that the skin is a trampoline.
40:53This surgeon thinks that the skin is a trampoline that's going to bounce back the bullet from the back of Charlie's neck with enough force to then travel back through muscle tissue, hit the bone vertebrae, shatter them, travel then do a right-hand turn, travel down the bone vertebrae, shatter them, shatter them, shatter them all the way down to T1.
41:15That's a very powerful trampoline, Mr.
41:18Jean-François.
41:20This is one of my favorite moments in Nick Fuentes' history. Of There are many. There are many incredible moments in Nick Fuentes' history.
41:29Before this exchange with Nick Fuentes, I just want to remind us all.
41:33I was cool. I didn't have any problem with the guy. I thought that his ideas were pretty solid and they did made me think really critically and I've been generally very supportive of him. I'd actually made I think more than one video directly supporting him. I'm speaking rather highly of him.
41:48My The paused face here is pretty epic.
41:50To think that a It was once I started to notice his perspective on Charlie Kirk's assassination, then I started to stop and think, like, wait a minute. What?
42:02And actually at the time, Dan Bilzerian called me and was like, "Yo, what the [ __ ] is Nick doing? What is going on?"
42:09And I was like, "Dude, I do not [ __ ] know. This is weird.
42:12Because Nick was immediately, maybe just out of spite for Candace because he is such a spiteful human, but immediately was just like shoveling the fed slop narrative to his audience as hard as humanly possible.
42:28Which makes no sense on the evidentiary side. The even more strange part to me is that Turning Point USA is the epitome of Nick Fuentes, if like a whole wing of Nick Fuentes' thesis or ideas that he's been discussing for the last couple years, one that he actually enlightened me to by talking about it, that Israel doesn't just influence America through Israeli lobbying and Israeli money. It's not just like an Israel problem. It's actually American Jews and American Jewish organizations and networks and NGOs and all these It's it's it's a Jewish thing because Jews network in a way that is international and
43:14tribal.
43:15And when you look at the role of American Jewish money influencing organizations like Turning Point and then using them for their purposes, it it's a exact perfect example of this larger thesis that Nick has been championing in a way that almost no one else was. And the Charlie Kirk story actually dug a lot of that open and we learned about like the Shermans and how they would they would like pull donations to threaten you and to put pressure on you and they like offer donations in order to like entice you and all these things and it he was just completely silent on all of that. And just trust Kash Patel.
43:54Kash Patel is telling you the truth about who murdered Charlie Kirk and it was so weird.
43:59And so I made one video pulling apart a bunch of clips of his, or rather one clip of his, and being like, "Yo, what what's going on, dude? Why aren't you talking about this? Why do you think that?" But just talking about the information. And then Nick went on a rant a whole rant about my character and just like insults and he's very catty.
44:18Not any real discussion of the evidence, just like, "You're low IQ. Go deliver a pizza." It's like, "Oh, no, I'm so hurt."
44:26Um so then I made another response to his response and that's what we were just watching here is Nick egged on and on and eventually started citing this gripy guy and and eventually once he started talking about why he thinks that Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk, it got even weirder. Because he the the dude he cited was this guy that was literally talking about skin trampolines stopping .30-06 bullets. And it's like, "What, dude? That's for a smart person, Nick, that's a pretty [ __ ] [ __ ] take. It looks so bad. It looks so irredeemably unintelligent that I still don't know what to make of it."
45:05He eventually just gave up and like stopped talking about it and went on his merry way and I just kind of left it be cuz I didn't know what to make of it. I mean, it was kind of a funny time because Nick was just serving up like meal after meal after meal of just easy content of slam dunk content of like, "Whoa, dude, what? I'm sorry, you put that on video and published it on the internet?" It's one thing for like Ben Shapiro or like, I don't know, um Ayala Koby to like have a bad take on the internet. But like Mr. Champion of high IQ anti-Semitism over here so blatantly posting one of the most low IQ
45:43concepts I've ever even heard of on one of the biggest stories of the decade that's seems pretty [ __ ] obviously tied to Israel in some way. That was so weird and ever since then it's left a weird like vibe for me and I haven't trusted Nick at all ever since.
46:03And it's not that I don't trust him because I think he's necessarily a fed and being controlled by some handler or something. It's not like I necessarily think he's blackmailed or bought off or anything. It's like I'm open to those possibilities, but I don't know. It just confirmed for me that I don't trust him because whether for faddy type reasons or just because he's vindictive and petty and hates Candace Owens so much that he has to contradict her, doesn't matter.
46:31If you're capable of portraying yourself as so [ __ ] smart and such a high IQ anti-Semite and then that's your perspective, I don't [ __ ] trust you.
46:42I don't trust a word that comes out of your goddamn mouth. Nope. No, sir. So, yeah.
46:49That's how I feel about Nick Fuentes and that was the moment that it changed.
46:52That was the topic that changed it. Because here's how I see people I don't trust on the internet. Unless you If you suck at your job, it's easy to not trust you on anything. Like if you're Brandon Tatum, literally everything you do is regarded and basically every video you put on the internet all is a red flag. But there's a lot of people that are more sophisticated than that that are right a lot and put out a lot of good [ __ ] But then there's elements of them that make it hard to trust any of it and that's how I feel about Nick. Love a lot of his stuff. A lot of his He says a lot of great things. He's got a lot of
47:29incredible clips. He's pretty [ __ ] funny. Um, very smart and a lot of his takes are spot on, I think. But that does not excuse these deeper underlying things that I just don't trust personally. And you should make up your own mind, come to your own conclusions.
47:44Follow him if you want, obviously. Like I'll still watch what he does. I'll still listen to him. But listening to him is a far different thing than trusting him or idolizing him or pretending that he's got some like crystal ball into like the direction that America needs to go. Because if I had a son right now and I wanted him to find some male role models, I mean, I'd be stoked if he listened to Nick Fuentes' ideas. But oh boy, would he be finding some better physical, emotional, spiritual role models than Nick Fuentes for how to be a good man. And honestly, right now in America, we need more good men. And when
48:17I say the words good man, Nick Fuentes is not exactly the kind of person that just like is conjured by that phrase. Jake weighed in after Lucas Gage jumped in. I was trying to stay out of this argument.
48:31We're just going to kind of briefly go through the reactions and laugh a little bit at some of them and just kind of wrap things up here. I was trying to stay out of this argument, but I was at both of these meetings and this is a flat-out lie. I didn't and I do believe that Jake was at both of these meetings.
48:44He lives in Vegas right next to Dan.
48:45They're very good friends. And he's often kind of like the pipeline to get like connection to Dan. Um at least that's what it was for me as I went there to talk to Jake and then we went and hung out with Dan. I didn't believe Nick was a fed and told Dan that, but after seeing this, I changed my mind.
49:00Dan is viewed as a threat, so it appears they want to use Nick and Lucas to take him down. Could be. This is the kind of people that are supporting Lucas and Nick, American patriots that use the term woke Reich unironically is what we call a shabbos [ __ ] I don't know who this guy is, but I just looked through his profile just now to kind of figure it out and I only had to scroll down to here to figure it out. The woke Reich is at war and it is delicious to watch them tear each other to shreds. Yeah.
49:29Cool. Cool story, bro. This is insane and a flat-out lie. Earlier today, I was still trying to kill the divide with Nick and Dan, but now it seems clear they are both feds.
49:37I had tremendous And by both feds, he's referring to Nick and Lucas, not to Dan in Jake's opinion. I had tremendous respect for Nick even when we fought, but seeing him make such an outrageous claim makes me wonder who is paying him.
49:49It is a pretty outrageous claim. It's pretty intense.
49:53Leonarda Joanie Why would a man who went through Navy SEAL training ask a gay podcaster how to kill Israeli government officials? I'll tell you why. Nick Fuentes is a cerebral cerebral malignant narcissist. Qualities include know-it-all who thinks he's the most intelligent person in the room, highly manipulative, exploitative, and sadistic. What you are witnessing is the desperate attempts of a wounded animal to save the last remnants of his public image. So desperate that he didn't even think this I through. If Dan was doing this to entrap Nick, he wouldn't have had him leave his phone elsewhere, and
50:24he wouldn't be sitting here 2 years later with no one having gotten in trouble. To everyone still on board with Nick Fuentes, you are aligned with evil.
50:31Whatever copes you have for this are irrelevant. Dan, a high testosterone male who has actually entered the political arena on behalf of his country is an actual threat. A gay twink telling his audience to not have kids and vote for Democrats is a threat to no one except the actual right-wing dissidents.
50:48Leonarda dropping fire.
50:51Rathbone from the left I stand with Dan Bilzerian, Butch Ware, Anthony Aguilar, Brian McGuinness, and everyone else who is mature enough to put aside petty differences so we can break the corporate Zionist duopoly and take our country back. Zat Boykin is an extremely weak attempt at fed jacketing Dan. Boring and uncreative. I'm sure you can do better. Milo weighs in.
51:13Fuentes being gay is his best case scenario because otherwise he has to explain and excuse his personality.
51:19Which is a pretty sharp take. A hilarious and sharp take.
51:24Roliath Serat I've never met an opportunity to share this pic that I didn't take. Owen weighed back in on Milo's take here. Exactly. Calling him gay is being gracious and giving him the benefit of the doubt. Correct. I do agree with that take because if you had to explain Nick Fuentes' personality and he's not gay, that starts to be pretty uncomfortable. Toad I find it odd that the dude whose whole persona and rise to fame was based on calling out Jewish control is now telling his huge following to vote for more of it in multiple races. Telling his following to vote for the Jewish candidate instead of the America First
51:58candidate. More of Nick's character choices. This is weird. Just doesn't line up. It's weird. Promoting the the show Euphoria, which I don't know [ __ ] about. I don't I don't know that it promotes Only Fans, but I've seen the weird [ __ ] about it. I don't think Nick was serious when he said he wanted to marry an Only Fans prostitute. I think Nick is pretty been pretty clear that he doesn't want to marry any woman because he finds them repulsive. His ego is so tiny that he's blocking people with under 5,000 followers.
52:22The Groypers are overwhelmingly a collection of terminally online, low social skill young guys who spend their days doomscrolling, making edgy memes, and owning libs on the internet. Not building anything in real life. No impressive careers, no institutional power, no large families, no tangible influence outside of their little Discord servers and livestream chats.
52:41That's not entirely true. There's a lot of people out there that like Nick Fuentes a lot, that are fully functioning adults that have careers and are successful, I'm sure. But I think you'd probably also admit that the more masculine and capable and successful you get, the less you would identify as I am a Groyper and the more you'd probably just identify as just I I enjoy Nick Fuentes. He's cool. I like his take. But I am not just a basement frog on the internet. I'm not just a Groyper. That that would be my assumption. I mean, I'm certainly not a Groyper. So, Groyper, you all decide for yourselves. I'm sure
53:15you all have either tuned out of the stream by now or you're clipping it enraged.
53:20It's all good. Maybe we'll watch a few clips of Fuentes on topic here to kind of wrap things up. Let's listen to Nick Fuentes in his own words here. Just get a little flavor for the guy. See how he feels about it all. And then give me a gun. Officer Blazarian claiming to be the leader of America First. A sex trafficker who is now forced to do social media because of how badly he's handled his inheritance. Pathetic. He made me watch that whole video. Do you know that? I went to his house and he made me watch that whole video. He literally sat there and I had to watch that the entire video of that incident.
53:59Probably shouldn't show that video. Give me a gun, dude. Let me get in there.
54:04That's so yeah. Doesn't that just say it all?
54:09What do you think Nick Fuentes would have done if he was at the Las Vegas shooting? What do you think Nick Fuentes his response to being in that kind of mass shooting environment would have been? Do you think his first response would have been let me fight back?
54:22Do you think if Nick Fuentes had been there with a group of friends, his first response would have been to protect them?
54:27And aside from that, like oh my god, he forced you to watch the video. It's like you don't want to have conversation with friends about interesting things in the world, tell stories, talk [ __ ] Kind of weird.
54:38And today says he says on Twitter, first he's telling us that the left is trying to kill right-wingers. Now he says to vote for the Democrat in Ohio. It's too contradictory.
54:54And it's like Dan, I know you're not that smart, but it's really not that complicated. I mean, it really Listen for all the platitudes and sort of empty sentences and like little insults that don't really mean anything.
55:10Just listen for sort of the rhetorical fluff that's not actually anything.
55:15really boils down to that.
55:19This is why they call us [ __ ] Like sorry, this is why they call us [ __ ] I used to think low-IQ anti-Semitism is just something that they said.
55:29I was wrong.
55:30Okay.
55:31I was wrong. Low-IQ anti-Semitism is real.
55:36It's Dan Bilzerian.
55:38You know it, I know it, pretty much the whole world knows it. There is such a thing as low IQ anti-Semitism. We have been seeing it. It has been out of control. It has been running rampant. And what do I mean by that? It's these people that all they know how to say is it's the [ __ ] Jews.
55:58That's all.
55:59It's like they're just So, first part of the argument. This is low IQ anti-Semitism.
56:05It's the [ __ ] Jews. That means you're dumb.
56:08You're dumb if you think that, right?
56:11That makes you low IQ anti-Semite.
56:12>> Just pressing a button.
56:14They can't tell you anything about it.
56:16There's no depth. There's no complexity.
56:20There's no even real understanding. They don't know anything about anything.
56:25Obviously, that's all platitudes.
56:28Obviously, someone like Dan Bilzerian knows plenty of things about plenty of things. He might not be as intellectually competent on a topic as Nick Fuentes, but he knows plenty of things about plenty of things. That's all they And maybe Hitler was a good guy.
56:40A Holocaust joke.
56:43Nick Fuentes is exceptionally good at and and often employs the tactic of straw manning his opponent's arguments.
56:49Every time. And he does it rhetorically for his show to get views and to be funny.
56:54But in an argument context, what he's doing is misrepresenting the person he's talking about.
56:59>> It's the [ __ ] Jews. Hey, [ __ ] It's the [ __ ] Jews. I know. I know, Dan.
57:05He calls me up on And now he's about to say that he agrees. He holds all those same perspectives. He all the low IQ anti-Semitism talking points.
57:15He's Yeah, I know. I know. I know. the phone.
57:18He tells me it's the Jews for 2 hours. I want to say, Dan, I know.
57:24Hi, nice to meet you. I'm Nick Fuentes.
57:26I've been saying that for 10 years. I know.
57:30Every time he calls and I pick up the phone, he's telling me about how the communist commissars are Jewish.
57:38Got it. I know. He's telling me about how it's all of them. Uh I know. He's telling me about how you know, Israel's causing all the wars and not I know. Preaching to the choir. Got it.
57:54Anyway. So, he says he's So, heaven forbid a bro try to have a conversation with the bro about the Jews. Oh lord, the thought crime for forcing Nick Fuentes to talk to a homie about the Jews. But anyway, >> telling us that the left is going to kill us, but now you're Look, I mean, how much clearer can I make it? I've said it I've said it so many times. I've said it so many times.
58:22We are going Democrat in 2026.
58:26This is a midterm election year. Do you understand that?
58:30It means that every house seat is The man, the the voice just was like really intense for a second there. term election year. Do you understand that?
58:43Am I the only one hearing that?
58:45I didn't hear that on the first go through.
58:47>> six. This is a midterm election year. Do you understand that? You want to hear it? It means that every house seat is up for election and 1/3 of the Senate is up for election. [laughter] The president is not up for election this year, Dan.
59:02Okay?
59:04Now, if Democrats win the house, then for the next 2 years, you'll Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
59:11Cool, Nick.
59:12Cool story. We're voting Democrat, apparently. All the gripers. America first is voting Democrat now, cuz they're going to publish the they're going to publish Sorry, they're going to punish the Republicans, cuz it's all left-right. It's only reps and dems.
59:28It's just the duopoly, two parties, that's all you get. Let's buy into that system a little more. That's what America First is doing.
59:35Honestly, 99% of these crash outs are because I don't pick up the phone. Like Dan was flaming me because I like didn't text him back.
59:44And I was like, bro, I I literally missed like three texts. And he's like, IT WAS FOUR. IT WAS FOUR TEXTS. I WAS LIKE, WHOA. Not that anyone's counting, right? And he's like, you never called me back. I'm like, dude, you're like a girl. All you [ __ ] people do is talk on the phone kicking your feet. I don't have time for that. It's like Well, it's not even I have all the time Nick is exaggerating and distorting a behavior, but it is a behavior that I think is real about Bilzerian. And he's misrepresenting what it is, at least the way that I see it. Dan does take communication seriously. He takes
60:19everything in life more seriously than your average person. And it's a trait that I notice in high net worth individuals that I've met and high achievers. It's a trait that I've noticed in millionaires that I've met, just to put it bluntly. Because that's the kind of stuff that's the kind of way you need to live your life if you want to be that kind of high achiever.
60:39Generally. At least that's the way I see it.
60:41A lot of the highest achieving people that I've met take communication pretty seriously and communicate intentionally and are good at doing it, good at communicating. And Dan is uh very much like that. He's intentional with his communications. He's not catty and chatty like that. When he calls you, he wants to talk to you about a thing and he'll talk to you about it.
60:59in the world, I just don't want to talk to you. He dude, he would call me up for like hours and just give me the speech, just give me the monologue about the Jews. I'm like, dude, I know. Like, I know. We were arguing about like Charlie Kirk and stuff. I'm like, dude, watch the show. I don't know what to say.
61:20>> Aha. So, what Nick is actually describing is when he was being [ __ ] really weird about Charlie Kirk, saying that Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk and the bullet bounced off of his neck skin. Dan was calling him up being like, "Bro, what the [ __ ] are you doing? What are you [ __ ] talking about?" Trying to figure out, probably, is this kid a fed? What is this kid doing? Why is this kid acting so [ __ ] all of a sudden?
61:44He's supposed to be at the forefront of this movement, and now he's out here shoveling the fed slop pro-Israel narrative. That's sketchy. And so, actually, I totally believe that that happened. I would totally It would be very on character for Dan just be like, "I'm going to [ __ ] do something about this." And pick up the phone and call him up and be like, "What the [ __ ] are you doing, boy?"
62:02I'm not surprised, honestly.
62:04>> [laughter] >> And this is the exact kind of response I would expect.
62:08Oh my god, like stop holding me accountable for my ideas. Like, ah, like just let me be the graper general. How you? Not for nothing, but so many people crash out on them cuz I just won't even go one step out of my way to demonstrate that I like like have any patience for what they have to say.
62:27And then they just start to hate me.
62:28Like, that's really what it I need to get better at that.
62:32At caring about anyone other than yourself? Yeah. At having any basic human compassion? Yeah, it would be a good move. It would be a good move.
62:40Anyways, uh let's let's end with this one. Jeff Epstein, not a pedophile, but you're not ready for that conversation.
62:47All of his victims, 14 to 17. That's not pedophilia.
62:52But y'all [ __ ] ain't ready for that conversation.
62:56Jeff Epstein, not a pedophile, Yeah.
62:59>> ready for that conversation. All of his victims, 14 to 17. That's not pedophilia.
63:05But y'all [ __ ] ain't ready for that conversation.
63:08It's a little quiet. You heard Did you hear it? Jeff Epstein, not a pedophile, but you're not ready for that conversation. All of his victims, 14 to 17. That's not pedophilia.
63:20But y'all [ __ ] ain't ready for that conversation.
63:23>> quote from his real show. Jeff Epstein, not a pedophile, but you're not ready for that conversation. All of his victims, 14 to 17. That's not pedophilia.
63:34But y'all [ __ ] ain't ready for that conversation.
63:37Well, let's start by saying explicitly, no, his victims were of many different ages and many were unfortunately younger than 14 and it's super [ __ ] up and God rest their innocence and souls. And that clip is the perfect example of why you need to have more than a big brain to be a good leader.
63:59You need to have more than a big brain to be America first because he is correct that technically pedophilia has a different definition in the DSM.
64:13There's different philias for different age groups.
64:17Cool story, bud. You know what we mean.
64:20This was also shortly before he started selling Jeffrey Epstein merch and saying that Jeffrey Epstein had aura and legitimately like selling the image of Jeffrey Epstein as like a cool guy to his audience.
64:34And Nick, you can call your movement whatever you want. You can call your show whatever you want, but I'm sorry.
64:42The idea of putting America first, regardless of what I say or what Dan Bilzerian says or what you say, regardless of what anyone says, the movement of the idea of putting America first is just never going to be led by someone that's that smart and yet that [ __ ] [ __ ] That is by someone that is so intelligent and so unable to see how soulless and hollow it is to even begin to approach that perspective. Let me close by just clarifying my perspective on Nick. I don't know if Nick is a fed or not, and I don't care. I treat him exactly the same if he is a fed or not a fed, it's all the same. There's probably a lot of
65:28feds out here, and there's probably a lot of people that seem like feds that are just retards or big ego or emasculated gay people that are in the closet that, you know, can't take an L.
65:42Whatever. I don't know. He'll put his ideas out on the internet, everyone else will put their ideas out on the internet. It's an open conversation, not too worried about it. Personally, though, I don't trust Nick Fuentes one [ __ ] bit. I deeply do not trust the mismatch of intellect and spirit, morals, content of character. I am far more concerned when I'm getting information from someone on the internet, I am far more concerned about the content of their character than the contents of their brain, honestly. I would way rather get information from a high moral standards low IQ individual than from an
66:22evil piece of [ __ ] with no morals that's super [ __ ] smart. Because one of those people will manipulate you and will always be out for themselves, and the other one is a good person. It's not it's it's not rocket science. This job, this space, this conversation, the internet is about a lot more than being smart and being right. But if Nick just wants to be smart and right, that's cool. You do you, bud.
66:47Conspiracy theories are entering [music] a dangerous >> Information is the oxygen of the democracy. There's so much evidence [music] out there that even if less than 1% is true, that would be enough to collapse the current paradigm and change the whole planet.
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