0:01The people who, even if publicly they were saying something different, get it.
0:06And the people who don't, and this is where the boomers theme comes in, the people who get it are JD Vance, who's terminally online, and Cash Patel, who's been terminally online before he was, you know, a sellout as FBI director. And also Dan Bonino. More on him later. Something happened to [ __ ] Dan. this this report.
0:28>> I've said that many times before. This report I was sitting there like they got him. Somebody got him. Somebody [ __ ] got that dude. But the people who actually understand the younger generations knew this was bad. They knew it was a disaster. And as we can see with how things played out, they were overruled by the boomers slash the people who aren't online. You know, Todd Blanches of the world who don't have a [ __ ] clue. And that is mistake number one here. But I'm going to read on this part of the article right down. So 10 days earlier, the Justice Department and the FBI had jointly released a memo that
1:06bluntly stated that their review had found no client list of powerful men for whom the notorious pedto Jeffrey Epstein had allegedly procured underage girls and young women. Intended to put to rest years of speculation and end the pressure campaign to release the voluminous material in the department's possession. The memo instead had the opposite effect, setting off a backlash that was notably loud among the MAGA base. And it was about to get worse. The Wall Street Journal was preparing a damaging article about Trump's relationship with Epstein. The president's desperate attempts to kill the story had failed. His team now had
1:37to get everyone onto the same page about how to counter the growing swarm of attention. They needed a gesture of transparency to appease an increasingly angry base, but also a way to convey the message that the president was sympathetic to his supporters concerns, which itself was a problem because he clearly wasn't. Again, all they're worried about is the messaging here.
1:54There's nowhere where you see the word the truth >> or justice.
1:58>> Justice. Absolutely. There's no word where you don't even see victims.
2:02>> Such scumbags, dude. It's crazy.
2:04>> Vice President JD Vance took a seat at the head of the table in the John F.
2:07Kennedy conference room of the situation room complex. This is a huge problem. He told the group a raid around where the White House chief of staff Susie Wilds, the White House counsel David Warrington, the press secretary Caroline Levit, the deputy chief of staff, Taylor Budawich, the communications director, Steven Chung, the deputy attorney general Todd Blanch, the associate attorney general Steven Stanley Woodward Jr. and the deputy chief of staff James Blair. Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI director Cash Patel joined on speakerphone, which is some of the best that's one of the most symbolic things
2:37I've ever seen. They had to join on speaker phone. can I just can't sometimes just turn the volume down a couple times.
2:44>> When they don't want him to hear something, they just speak a little quieter at the edge of the room and Cash is like, "You are you guys over there? I can't hear you [laughter] too well."
2:53>> The vice president appeared panicked to others in the room about the way the subject of Epstein was already dividing the MAGA coalition. Before I go on, this was another huge issue with this story.
3:04Mhm.
3:05>> The New York Times keeps referring to this, and I think this is actually kind of a mistake in their phrasiology with with how they're reporting on this.
3:13Actually, as good of a story as this seems to be, they keep on referring to just like the MAGA base and Trump's base, half the country, and they're completely ignoring the other half of the country that's comprised of liberals, apolitical people that don't vote either way and everything in between where those people [ __ ] care about the story. That's half my audience. You know what I mean? And y'all are watching this right now. So the way that it's just about like how do how do we appease our base or that's all they were talking about. This is this is a public relations disaster all the way around
3:48perhaps with the exception again of the boomers who are stuck on the news where they control the narrative and where [ __ ] like this is not talked about.
3:55Anyway, vice president pure panicked as I said to others in the room about the way the subject epste of Epstein was already dividing the mag coalition. Some senior officials had the impression, this is this is one of the best sentences in the whole article.
4:09>> Some senior officials had the impression that Vance had bought into the darkest theories about Epstein and a cabal of predators hidden within the country's ruling class, which guess what? There are none of them. In fact, every bit of these files has proven that there is not one pedophile that exists in this country, let alone in the elite classes, who would never [screaming] ever do such a thing as harm an innocent child. I mean, deaf, we've gone through jail.world.
4:38THEY'RE NEVER TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING THAT could possibly be a reduction in the life of any kid or any person who's trafficked whatsoever CUZ THEY'RE ABOVE THAT. WHY would they do that ever in this world? WHY WOULD THESE DARKEST THEORIES ever be something that the vice [ __ ] president of the United States WOULD BUY INTO? I [screaming] DON'T KNOW. MAYBE BECAUSE HE'S GOT TWO EYEBALLS AND A [ __ ] BRAIN.
5:02YEAH, it sounds like a bunch of liberal [ __ ] [laughter] Like it is absolutely that I just I want to frame that sentence on my wall. Some senior officials emphasis on the word senior.
5:17I'm going to call them senior [ __ ] citizens who are asleep at the wheel.
5:21Some senior officials had the impression that Vance had bought into the darkest theories about Epstein and a cabal of predators hidden within within the country's ruling class. The second best sentence is what comes next. Wilds would tell others that the vice president had proved himself to be a major conspiracy theorist. OH MY GOD. HE THINKS THAT BAD [clears throat] THINGS happen and that would never happen in the United States of America.
5:50Susie Wallace, who also advised for a short time on Benjamin Netanyahu's 2020 re-election campaign, and obviously his files don't involve Israel or anything like that at all. So, you know, she would never never be offuscating because of that. But can we actually look up the term conspiracy?
6:08Let's start let's start there. I'm I'm going to do do a little drill here. I haven't thought about this. So, let's see if uh >> if this helps me >> with what I'm thinking in my head. A conspiracy is a secret plan or agreement between two or more people to commit an illegal, harmful, or subversive act such as fraud, treason, or corruption. In both the Marryiam Webster dictionary and the Legal Information Institute at Cornell Law School, so it's Ivy League approved. It is formally defined as an agreement along with an intent to achieve the unlawful goal, often requiring an overt act in furtherance of
6:38the plot. So fair to say that means some level of secrecy to obuscate something illegal.
6:44>> Feel like that stuff happens. Yeah.
6:46>> Yeah, that makes sense.
6:47>> Bernie made off just stuff.
6:49>> Yeah, it just it's gone.
6:51>> People conspire.
6:52>> Yes.
6:52>> It's all gone.
6:53>> Yeah.
6:54>> It's like where's the South Park scene?
6:55Where where's my money? And >> and it's gone.
6:58>> It's all gone. Now, can we look up conspiracy theory? Definition.
7:04A conspiracy theory is an explanation of an event or situation that cites a covert, often sinister group of powerful people working in secret to achieve a malevolent goal. These theories typically reject the mainstream official consensus cuz they're the mainstream official consensus >> cuz they're on the payroll. [laughter] >> They listen. But de whether they're on the payroll or not, the money doesn't matter. No, >> they're always right.
7:26>> They've never missed.
7:27>> They are. That's why we listen to them.
7:29>> That's why we listen to them.
7:31theories are typically reject the mainstream official consensus and are more likely to gain widespread traction during periods of social anxiety, uncertainty or crisis, which I that's actually that's fair that they will gain, you know, more. But that's the write off sentence. That's the sentence they slip into the definition to just write it off completely.
7:52>> To write it off, but >> you're anxious. WHY? BECAUSE A CONSPIRACY [laughter] THEORY GOT US HERE IN THE [ __ ] FIRST PLACE. BECAUSE IT WAS PROVEN RIGHT, WHICH WE SEE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
8:06>> UH, now can we type in >> wait the adoption of conspiratorial thinking often serves as a coping coping mechanism. This is just a coping mechanism. We're just we're just we're just coping here. We're really upset about all the rape and [laughter] you know the island and you know the eugenics and you know the working for international banking families.
8:28you know, the the actual people that run the world that are way above the elected president and things like that. We're really upset about fellers threatening Saddam Hussein to get a bomb up his ass according to John Cury. Like we're just we're just upset about this stuff cuz none of it's real, but we've just told ourselves >> we got to cope. That's [ __ ] >> All right. What's the next one you want?
8:48>> The last one. I've never Googled this before, so I don't know what's going to come up. Can you type in conspiracy reality definition?
8:59All right, goes right to conspiracy theory. But yeah, type in definition now.
9:05Only thing that pops up, prove my point.
9:07Only thing that pops up is conspiracy theory. So again, we've talked at length, many people have talked about it at length before that the term was basically astroturfed postJFK assassination because, you know, we can't have people talking about that one right there. you got to cope >> to basically cope as Joey Deef says, but also >> put a scarlet letter >> on anyone who would dare question the narrative, right?
9:35>> Yeah.
9:36>> And so there's never been a place to where when conspiracy theories are not only proven right, but later admitted by the people who did them, which we have plenty of examples where that's happened before. There's never a third trunch that says conspiracy reality or something like that. That's just the first term I could think of right there.
9:55That's because they don't want that to exist.
9:59And again, I said it at the beginning.
10:00Donald Trump rose to prominence on the radical populist transparency, picking up the phone and tweeting to everyone, basically wearing a GoPro on his forehead and tweeting about his day and telling you everything that was happening, including some stuff where you're like, "Oh, maybe maybe don't say that one." But like you appreciated the fact that you at least knew where he stood whether you hated him or loved him. That was one thing you had to give him. And it has now deevolutionized not a word but you know what I mean into the complete opposite. He has become the very thing he campaigned against. At the
10:40very least he has hired people around him who have decided to make that the case. That said, you're also going to see in this report, as we've already seen by his public truth social posts over the last year and a half, he's very much in favor of [ __ ] pushing this one away and not having any transparency. and and Dev and I were were talking about this before because I I've always said I'm going to go where the evidence is and I've now repeatedly said that Donald Trump has behaved in a way that it is impossible to not assume he's guilty of something.
11:16>> He has behaved like a guilty client, not an innocent client, every step of the way with how he has handled reacting in any way to anything that happens around this case. But we're [snorts] gonna talk about nipplegate in a minute and everything which is interesting. But [laughter] that said, you know, Andrew Schultz had said when the files when the second trunch came out, he made a really good point when he was reading through him. He said, "Most of the guys who are the rapists and are implicated in this and are in the circles, regardless of their money and their power, which they no doubt have, they're
12:02mostly nerds." He's like, "There's not a lot of athletes and celebrities in here." Now, we've seen flights with Kevin Spy and Chris Tucker and stuff like that. Like there's some highlights of those things, but you know, there will be playboys like Bill Clinton who are around to be clear, but there's there's a lot of people that it's like, you know, they couldn't get laid with a fist full of pardons in a women's prison, no matter how rich they are and things like that. They just ain't got no game. And and there's there's something that's fair in that for 95% of it. I'll say that that's not a problem Donald Trump
12:39ever had. Now, that's not to say that that means he wouldn't have been a predator, but I still haven't seen like the oh my god, here is the here is the absolute evidence that like he's a full-blown pedto rapist or anything like that. I've seen reports from victims many after 2020 which is important to say because that's when the whole story had been mainstream and publicized and unfortunately there is a lot of dog piling on anyone in that situation including even like Bill Clinton and Donald Trump's opposite. You have to take that into account but like there hasn't been like the smoking gun on that. I'm open to finding that
13:20smoking gun and drilling, you know, the the truth out there to the public if we find it. That said, you know, if I were a betting man, and that's all I can go off of right now, and I and you held a gun to my head and said, "What is Donald Trump so afraid of people seeing in these files?"
13:40My, and this is just a guess, is pure pure spec.
13:43>> Pure spec, >> the purest of pure spec. My guess is that Jeffrey Epstein did in fact introduce Melania Trump to Donald Trump.
13:58>> And that also would have been by the way in the 1999 to 2001 time period where you know a lot of files are missing.
14:06>> I I think that is what happened if I were guessing. Pure spec.
14:11>> Don't know that. got no proof of it, but I think that's why he's probably done this. And I say that because there is evidence dating back to 2004, 2006, 2007 with Brad Edwards, 2015 when he went out of his way to talk about Epstein on on networks with people while I was first running for office.
14:36There is a lot of evidence along the way that Donald Trump was at the very least strongly distancing himself from Epstein and openly calling the guy a pervert.
14:46That doesn't mean it's not projection.
14:48It doesn't mean that he's not just trying to distance himself to get out in front of it as very smart PR because he was doing the same [ __ ] That's very possible.
14:56>> I'm working on possibilities here >> and that is what it is. We also do have in the files, it was in this story, that one of the things that the aids found out is that Donald Trump had taken allegedly eight, well, I think they said they had proof of it in the story.
15:12Between 93 and 96, he had flown on Epstein's jet eight times. In January 2024, he claimed publicly that he had never been on the jet before. And when he flew on the jet, he flew on it with Mara Maples. He flew on it with his family, >> you know, which is so interesting, too, because Donald Trump Jr. spent so many years pounding the pavement on this and is cited in this story as being against the PR campaigns and asking for transparency at least behind the scenes, but has gone dangerously silent since June 2025 about this issue out of nowhere. But it's like if the family was on these jets, then Donald Trump Jr. was
15:45probably one of them at some point. And you would think that, you know, 2016, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023 when he's tweeting asking for transparency and all this, he knows, that's not to say a young kid like Donald Trump Jr. did anything wrong there, but like he knows he was on the guy's jet with his dad. M like the there's just some sort of strange cognitive dissonance that has happened here that has now boomeranged back around and suddenly people in like the Trump camp are like, "Oh [ __ ] maybe we didn't think this one through." Yeah, maybe you didn't. Maybe maybe you didn't.
16:24I got to pull this back up, devance part and everything. I just have what I did is I put keywords right here in front of me just so because this article is very long just so deaf can like look up the keyword and we can get right to the point. Can you put in Blanch at the top of the article?
16:47All right. So, okay. This is exactly what I want.
16:51Again, referring to the July 17, 2025 situation room meeting. Can you go back up? Sorry, I wanted that first part right there. At this point in the meeting, Blair spoke up is right before Blanch. With all due respect, he said, "The communication strategy of this group got us here. I don't know that it's going to get us out. And if you're going to go in front of the press, you've got a lot of work to do." He began to ask pointed mock questions demonstrating how difficult a news conference might be. They were afraid of being asked questions about that. Why?
17:21If you got nothing to hide, you shouldn't be afraid of it, right? Oh god. A >> as the president's former defense attorney, Blanch had a unique vantage point on the discussion. He was better equipped than anyone else in the room to weigh the ideas being discussed against Trump's personal and political interest.
17:36Blanch laid out what he saw as their best options. Option one was to petition the federal district courts in Florida and New York to unseal the grand jury testimonies, the secret transcripts of prosecutors presentations of witnesses and evidence in their efforts to obtain indictments in past Epstein related cases. As those were almost certain to contain no new significant information, everyone agreed that this option was a good idea, not only because a release was unlikely to damage the president.
18:04Again, all about damage control. And let me let me say this.
18:09I understand like I wasn't born yesterday. It's not just in politics.
18:13It's in business, anything in PR.
18:17Yes, there's always going to be an aspect of damage control and and how things look versus how they actually are unfortunately doesn't line up. You hear me talk about that a lot. My issue once again is that at no point were did they ever show any real according to the story any real interest in the truth >> any form of transparency fulfilling promises to the voters who had elected them who wanted this stuff out and and people who didn't vote for them who wanted this stuff out as well or an interest in like justice for the victims. That's not any part of the calculation here.
18:57>> Yeah. It's just damage control. So, under the federal rules of criminal procedure, the secrecy of grand jury materials is regarded by most federal judges as almost always in viol. And the bar for any release is exceptionally high. If the courts refuse to unseal them, as Blanch predicted, so he's predicting, we're going to ask, show this sign to the public. They're going to say no. He goes, they, meaning the Trump team, could shift the blame for withholding the Epstein Epstein material away from the Trump administration and onto the judges. And all the better, all the better if the judges had been
19:28appointed by Democratic presidents.
19:31Blanch's suggestion would make it appear that the White House wanted the materials released when it was almost certain not to happen. Let's keep going right here. I just love this guy. Option two was to have the Justice Department lawyers question Maxwell and publicly released the transcript, a twist on the idea proposed earlier by Vance Blanch, Donald Trump's former defense attorney, offered to interview Maxwell himself.
19:54Now JD, I skipped this at the beginning.
19:56JD Vance when he was freaking out and being called a conspiracy theorist by Susie Wilds had floated the very very dangerous idea, extremely dangerous and irresponsible idea of having Tucker Carlson go to Gilen Maxwell's prison and interview her on camera.
20:17>> Yeah, that would have been good.
20:19Now, we talked about not wanting to use podcasters and stuff like that.
20:25I don't like the idea to be very clear of like the vice president calling up anyone, whether it's Tucker Carlson or anyone else and saying, "Hey, can you go do this for us?" It's it's terrible optics. That does not change.
20:38That would have been interesting though.
20:40>> Yeah, it would have been >> that would have been pretty [ __ ] interesting.
20:43So Blanch back here raised the possibility that Maxwell's lawyer might expect something in return for her cander. And I'm going to skip some of this part right here, but basically everyone went around the table and the New York Times was fair to say this that the options were expressed by one of the people there without opinion, Warrington, the White House counsel. So she went through the available choices without advocating for anyone. So, she's just laying out everything for the most extreme scenario, like [ __ ] pardoning her all the way to giving her absolutely nothing and saying just talk. Blair was
21:19also adamantly opposed to a pardon. We can't offer Gilen Maxwell anything. Uh, I don't know why we would. A, I don't know why we would. A and B, if we give Gilen Maxwell any sort of break whatsoever and then she turns around and says nice things about us or says nice things about us and we give her a break, it will undermine the entire point of her saying good things, which he's absolutely right about. that will feed the conspiracy theory. Again, he's referring to it as a conspiracy theory.
21:43It's not a conspiracy theory. This woman sex trafficked with Jeffrey Epstein. She was convicted of it and they've sealed all the [ __ ] files. If there's nothing for her to say that hurts us, we shouldn't have to offer her anything.
21:54Now, that's really important because what he's saying is, guys, if Trump did nothing wrong and has nothing to hide, why should we be worried about it? We should just let her talk. The consensus was that calling for the release of the grand jury material was the best course of action. That's the very next sentence which tells you they looked at that quote from Blair and everyone looked at each other in the room and like who's going to say it? Who's going to say it?
22:21>> Yeah, we'll do the first one. [laughter] >> Everyone agree. Yeah, we'll do the first one.
22:25>> We'll go with the grands told the group she would discuss the matter with Trump and ask if he would send a truth social post calling for the release of seal grand jury documents, which he did. And this is where he started. I think he'd already done this, but was referring to it as a Democratic hoax >> and clearly did not want any of it to happen. By the way, I didn't say this, but the whole Wall Street Journal birthday card thing that was going to come out that Trump and they later talk about in the article where he called and screamed at the writer of the article, screamed at Rupert Murdoch, told the
22:58writer of the article who was British that she hates of America and that was the only reason she was writing this and everything.
23:04You know, I remind you the Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch himself, the hardest core right-wing media owner in [ __ ] modern history. And Rupert Murdoch is also one of the two main people, him and Benjamin Netanyahu, who advocated for Donald Trump to [ __ ] bomb Iran, even more than apparently Lindsey Graham and Mark Leavvin, according to reporting, who were definitely advocating, to be clear. You know, like this is a friendlyish publication that was publishing this story. But the minute you do a story that he don't like, you're anti-American.
23:42>> You're not my friend. What?
23:43>> Yeah. It's like this is the problem.
23:46Donald Trump had every right over the years to criticize the mainstream media when they when they did lie about him.
23:55And you know what? Let's play devil's advocate. Maybe this wasn't true. Maybe it wasn't a lie. What they reported was a birthday card that he signed >> where he had a drawing of a naked woman and signed his name where her pubic hairs would be and they had a picture of it and he said it's completely fake news. It was at the time where he had not had a falling out with Jeffrey Epste. It was back in 2003. He was still friends with him at the time according to every level of reporting. And you know now it's a story he doesn't like.
24:20So you're anti-American if you publish it and he's going to sue you and all these things. And it's like you you can't have it both ways, right? So, if it's not true, okay, it's not a good look to threaten suing people or, you know, whatever. You got to let the free press put out what they put out and let the court of public opinion win on free speech. But like, again, optically very bad. They also did refer in this article to another piece of media on our end in independent media which I remember very well which was when Trump was doing the podcast circuit in the buildup to the November election in 2024 when he was on
24:57Lex Friedman's podcast. Lex asked him directly about releasing the Epstein files. And I remember we talked about it at the time but like his answer was very like yeah no I'll look at it. It was very KY and non-committal. There was another interview around the same time period, I believe, with Fox News where he was also like, "Yeah, no, I I I I think uh I I think I would do that."
25:23Again, always very nervous around that one. Always very, you know, the guy who would always talk about bringing things to the people. When you brought up that one, it was like, "Uh, yeah, no, we we can talk about that." And then he would have bouts of saying, "Yeah, I'm going to release them. Totally. I'm going to release them." Again, campaigned on it.
25:40and the people who spoke for him would go on all the networks and stuff and say, "If you elect President Trump, he's gonna [ __ ] release the Epstein files and all that and give the people what they want." So, it's approved messaging.
25:53>> And they went against it. You also had people like Laura Loomer who had been behind the releases. She ain't behind them now.
26:00>> Quagmire. Yeah.
26:01>> She ain't Yeah. [ __ ] Quagmire.
26:03>> Quagmire, >> you know. And they, the New York Times lays out the binders disaster in here [ __ ] beautifully where they had all the influencers come in. Apparently Bondi >> gave all the influencers back in, if you remember the pictures of all the right-wing influencers coming out holding up binders and [ __ ] Gave all the influencers the binders >> and no one on the staff had like reviewed what was in there. So they were frantically looking through to see if Trump's name was anywhere and it was on like page four. And so they pulled all the influencers into maybe the Roosevelt room or one of the rooms and said there
26:41was an embargo on them tweeting this out or anything. Again, these are people that are supposed to be independent media. The people like Jack Pazobia and people who claim to be like, I'm about the truth and [ __ ] >> Yeah. [ __ ] like libs of Tik Tok.
26:55>> Yeah. They're Yeah. And they're the same thing as the influencer campaigns that Biden had. we would see all those cringe pictures of Brooklyn dad and all these people standing in the White House with thumbs up. It's no different. Birds of the same feather. And so they embargoed the information because that day Joseph Philippus Kier Starmer was there visiting and he was going to do a joint press conference in the oval I believe with Donald Trump and they didn't want it to turn into this whole thing where the media was suddenly asking about why he appeared in these binders that he just gave influencers to and embarrass
27:25him in front of another world leader.
27:26Can't have that.
27:27>> It's literally South Park.
27:28>> It is. It's it's it's it's VEP. Yeah, it's usually South Park is exactly what you say. This is straight out of a [ __ ] Julia Richard Drifus.
27:37>> Yeah.
27:38>> Scene in VEP for sure. So, that was also pretty funny.
27:42>> Bondie just gets burned. Apparently, they call her Blondie behind her back.
27:46You know, I I gave her credit a couple weeks ago. Credit where words due, that she, you know, unless she's trying to pass the puck.
27:56I said then I would retract that credit.
27:58But, you know, she went in there and testified before the House committee that Todd Blanch was basically in control behind the scenes. And this story paints that picture correctly.
28:07You're not seeing a lot of places where Pam Bondi again, like they had her on [ __ ] speaker phone. You're not seeing a lot of places where she gets painted as the strategist here. It's really Todd Blanch laying it all out >> and controlling it from behind the scenes. So, you have a shadow AG effectively at the time because he's the deputy. he's not the head. And there's also a part where they talk about the memo that they were going to put out on July 2nd where they're all on this group chain email and Cash Patel ends up supporting it cuz Cash Patel had a lot of reservations apparently about a bunch
28:43of this [ __ ] cuz he had been on independent media for years screaming for the Epstein files release. We ain't got to get them all out. And now he's a part of this memo where they're trying to say that's it. This is July 2nd, 2025.
28:56Again, news dump right before July 4th, as I've laid out before, but they're just trying to say, "That's it. There's nothing to see here. Cash Patel just talked to Joe Rogan a month ago. It's fine. He committed suicide. Let's get rid of it."
29:06>> He crushed that.
29:07>> He crushed that episode. [laughter] Did an amazing Cash Patel, beautiful job. He demonstrated that he had not only full knowledge of the case, but just an incredible leader. Just an incredible leader of the FBI. Someone that we should put all of our faith in.
29:24That's I I I think that was that was probably his best moment.
29:27>> Yeah, 100%.
29:28>> I remember Tommy G and me getting waterboarded and like literally in between like takes of you know them like taking a break from [ __ ] killing us.
29:36We're sitting there in mass just like joking about what what a disaster Cash Patel was. [laughter] >> Yeah.
29:41>> Ro and it's only gotten better and better with age.
29:44>> Oh, it's only gotten better and better with age. But Pam Bondi literally wasn't even on that chain. And they say in the story that she rarely used her justice department email.
29:54>> Yeah, that's >> that's right there. Yeah.
29:58>> Bondie rarely used her Justice Department email and was not on the chain where the group worked on the memo. She was aware of both the memo and the release of the prison video, but not involved in editing the document. Let me let me put that out there again. The [ __ ] sitting attorney general of the United States was not involved in releasing a memo document addressing the biggest scandal in modern political history that directly impacts their administration at all. She wasn't even on the email chain.
30:24>> Classic Pam Bondi again, credit where it's due. Her claims from that committee hearing are starting to look pretty [ __ ] good.
30:33>> Yeah.
30:34>> So, >> and and Blanch hasn't been sworn in yet.
30:36No, >> he has not been sw the time of this recording. He has not been sworn in yet.
30:44Blanch also admitted here. Can you type in Blanch Cam? Yeah, I saw I just saw that before.
30:54>> Okay, >> let me pull that back.
30:58Um, it's up a little bit.
31:02Okay, here we go.
31:04>> Yeah. Now, Todd Blanch, we've played the tape where he talks about, you know, there's no videos of of Epstein, Mr.
31:12Epstein, as he calls him. Make sure he's legally respectful of him, you know, doing anything unourred, Howard Let's Word, you know, with with children or anything. You know, I would tell people that. Now, to be clear, that's technically not what he's referring to here. He's not referring to Epstein being in these videos, but he's very calmly and adamantly referring to it, as you'll hear right here. In June, 4 months after the circus in the Roosevelt room with the influencers, Bondie and Blanch briefed the president on the status of the Epstein review.
31:43We've gone through the files, Blanch told Trump. There's not a lot there. Not a lot there, sir.
31:50A lot of CP. Obviously, we can't put any of that out. He's correct about that. He should not put it out, but he should talk about how many and give data.
32:00>> And that's not a lot.
32:02>> There's CP.
32:03>> Yeah. Yeah. Obvious. There's not a lot there. Just some CP.
32:05>> Sounds like a lot of something.
32:06>> That sounds like a lot of something.
32:08There are some mentions of you, but nothing substantive. Most of Trump's advisers had rejected out of hand the idea of releasing the FBI's raw interview notes. More important, they wanted to avoid putting out anything that could damage the president. again some Soviet [gasps] you knew before you decided to run for office the first time but particularly the second time which is post Epstein you know air quotes unaliviving himself huge air quotes obviously that definitely is not what happened but like post this becoming a thing you knew before you ran for office that you knew this guy you've talked about it publicly before. You
32:51can't now try to act like, "No, no, no.
32:53We no, I didn't know him at all." You You can't do that. You accepted the responsibility of being president knowing full well that people wanted the stuff released and that your name would be around it. You knew it.
33:10All right, let's keep going on this.
33:15Also, there was another thing about the memo. Nobody wanted to put their name on it.
33:22They were so jazzed about that July 2nd news dump memo and so comfortable with its contents that nobody wanted to put their name on it.
33:32>> Uh that's so funny too with this administration. Everybody wants credit with this administration.
33:38>> But not on that.
33:39>> Ah >> they don't want credit on that. Now let's type in Bonino.
33:43>> Uh this guy >> Dan Bonino if you're listening. You're not. But if you're listening, it's nice seeing you slide down the charts. It's starting to get hard to find you down there. But you know [snorts] what? What happened to you? I never liked you. To be clear, your worldview and my worldview are two very, very different things. But I at least, and I've said this before, respected the fact that a lot of people talk about things. and you did in fact pick up leave your multi-million dollar job with, you know, that you created for yourself with your huge podcast audience and all that and go take a
34:20roundthe-clock government job that doesn't pay much to try to follow through on some of the things that you wanted to see happen at the FBI. Now, you had worked at Secret Service and I I wasn't really sure your credentials to be the deputy director of FBI, but like I respected walking the talk, if you will, >> the hustle.
34:41>> Yeah, you respected the hustle, if you will. And by the way, what we're about to see with Bonino here in this story, this is right around the time where he did that famous hostage video, as I've called it in the past, with Fox News next to Cash Patel, where he looks like, you know, someone's holding a laser on his head, like they're going to shoot him. But it is so clear behind the scenes that Dan Bonino had serious problems with I'm gonna speculate pure spec on this part with some things he had seen with these files and was obviously still loyal to President Trump, which is kind of a separate issue for
35:19now. I'll I'll bookmark that the side.
35:22But strongly, again, as someone who was terminally online and knew where people stood, felt like this needed to be at least somewhat released and handled in a completely different manner. He obviously had no intellectual respect for Pam Bondi. That's probably fair. But I see a Bong Gino in this story in this July 2025 period that was an entirely different Dan Bonino than we saw in January 2026 when he had left office and came out and became a mouthpiece.
35:58And again, pure spec here, Dan, who called you? Who showed up in the parking garage while you were getting into your car and said, "Don't turn.
36:08Don't say anything." Yeah.
36:10>> Don't they Don't even Don't look forward. Look forward.
36:14>> Sit in your [ __ ] seat. Put your keys on the lap. I'm going to sit in the back seat. Who did that? What What kind of pictures did they have? Were they AI and they just look really good?
36:25>> Were they real? I'll forgive you. I think depends what they were. But >> you know who got to you?
36:34For weeks, Patel and Bonino, going back to the article, the deputy FBI director had grown more infuriated as they realized the scale of the mess for which they were now being blamed. They repeatedly raised alarms internally that the Epstein crisis was gathering momentum with Trump's supporters.
36:47Bonjino wanted to convey something definitive to the MAGA base. As he and Patel had pushed for the immediate release of the surveillance footage from the federal facility where Epstein was found dead in the cell. Bonino hated the Justice Department's nothing to see here memo being drawn up for public release.
37:03He told Patel that he would in no way align with their promises. It would in no way align with their promises of transparency after taking over the FBI and he objected to putting the FBI seal on the letter head, but he was overruled. Patel privately shared many of Bonino's concerns, but in an internal email on July 2nd, the FBI director gave his support for the memo. Now, let's go down.
37:23>> Spineless, dude.
37:24>> Let's go to the Let's go to the next Bonino.
37:28Yeah.
37:31>> Keep going.
37:33Keep going. Keep going. That's Bondi.
37:37Bonino told anyone who would. So Wilds Blair and others around Trump had seen him weather every storm imaginable for years. And in their view, this wasn't a storm. It was passing clouds at most.
37:48Again, [laughter] just a complete divorce from reality. Passing clouds at most. Just a bunch of kids getting raped on an island by Pedo Elise. Jesus.
37:56Passing clouds at most. All kinds of intelligence agencies, including our own at CIA being involved, you know, MSAD, all these different places. There's [ __ ] banking families that are talking to this guy.
38:08>> Passing cloud, don't worry about it.
38:10Bonino told anyone who would listen that this was a grave miscalculation. It's not an online story. He told White House advisers. You don't understand. Now, let's go to the next Bon Gino.
38:24Keep going.
38:26The release of the surveillance video, which Bonjino and Patel had intended as a gesture of transparency, further fueled the fire. The the Department of Justice ended up releasing roughly 11 hours of prison video intended to show that nothing nefarious can occurred. And we've already like literally in the Booamonte episode on Discovery Channel that I did, Dr. G Reacts came on and like broke down why why the video is like [ __ ] and what it doesn't show.
38:51But that's neither here nor there. So, intend to show nothing nefarious occurred, but the footage was missing a minute. a visible time stamp jump from 11:5858 p.m. to midnight. Bondi initially attributed this to a nightly system reset. The footage was later restored in release to many of Trump's followers. However, this was yet more evidence of a cover-up. The White House officials complained privately that they hadn't been told about the gap before the release. Social media lit up the blame, not just for Bondi, but for Patel and Bonino, too. I want to get to the part where he talks about where he
39:17storms out. So, none of the three had ever experienced anger at this volume from Trump's conservative base. It was disorienting, especially for Patel and Bonino, whose power and influence had been built online. The movement that had treated them as heroes was suddenly turning on them. The two men were now tightly connected to a memo that stated in black and white that while information in the government's possession showed ample evidence of Epstein's own wrongdoing, there was no evidence of a wider conspiracy. The day the memo was released, Bonino showed up to a daily Justice Department meeting
39:46with the FBI staff and the attorney general. He was in a volcanic mood. As soon as he entered the room, he erupted at Bondie, shouting at her, "You [ __ ] this whole thing up from the start. The way you've been talking about this, that dumb [ __ ] charade with the Epstein files, the they're on my desk nonsense.
40:02All the promises to the folks out there." Patel and Bonino both subsequently told a White House official that Bondi needed to resign. Two days later on July 9th, the two men were summoned to a meeting with Wilds and Bondi in the situation room complex.
40:16another situation room meeting that happened before the July 17th one.
40:20They're just using the situation room to talk about [ __ ] Rape Island left and right. Again, situation room is supposed to be where you talk to the [ __ ] Joint Chiefs of Staffs about who gets bombed today, which, you know, that's a separate argument right there and that whole thing. But like it's used for military operations. They're using it for rape. Just want to reiterate that for like the 10th time. They were the last to enter the small wood panel room.
40:40They being B being Bonino and Patel.
40:43Seating around the table were Bondi Wilds, Blanch. There he is again. And Taylor Budawich, one of Wild's deputies.
40:48The moment Bonino sat down, Wilds told him that she had been informed he leaked the sensitive story about Epstein and Trump to ABC News. I'll tell you what, Bonino replied, "I'll give you $100,000 cash right now. I'm not kidding. Walk out to West Exec, put that reporter on speaker, and get him to admit I leaked it." $100,000.
41:09While snapped back, "Well, we all got ourselves into this." Bonino cut her off. No, no, no, no, no. We didn't get oursel emphasis on we. It's italicized.
41:20We didn't get ourselves into anything. I warned you guys about this the whole time and you ignore me. And exactly what I said was going to happen happened. And now you're pretending I was in on this.
41:30I was never in on this. Bonino's aggressive response to Wilds startled the others. She was the White House chief of staff, essentially a stand-in for the president. Wilds put Bonino on the spot. Going forward, she said, "We're all in. We're all going to agree to move forward. Are you in or not? No, I'm not. Bonino said, "This is not my plan. I'm not a part of this going forward. Forget it. I'm out of here." He then stormed out of the situation room and onto West Executive Addage Avenue where he climbed into the back of Patel's armored SUV and directed the driver to take him to FBI HQ. Some of Bonino's close friends hoped he would
42:13resign right then. An act of protest that would have made him a mega martyr and only increased his following. Again, they're looking at optics. That's not why.
42:22>> It's also like that's one of the things.
42:25>> Oh my god.
42:26>> But White House advisers intervened urging him to stay. If he quit over Epstein and went public, it could severely damage the president. Bonino told Associates he would remain for Trump's sake. Again, he's being loyal.
42:39laser and keep pushing for more Epstein information to be released. Is there more below this? I can't remember.
42:46Privately, he seethed. In conversations with confidants, he lamented what the job had cost him. Millions of dollars in podcast revenue, family time, his audience. He already knew. That's interesting.
42:58>> In his head, he knew this was going to cost his audience. The same audience he's claiming to still have all his numbers created.
43:05>> He was getting torn apart over a strategy he had opposed from the start.
43:09Blondie [ __ ] this whole thing up.
43:12Bonino later told a confidant, echoing Loomer's derisive nickname for the attorney general. She was the one on TV saying over and over they had all this stuff. There was never anything. Now that's the interesting part. This is later when he's talking about it. He's trying to say there was never anything.
43:28So, you're saying that this this this is where I I'm going to completely fork in the road, divert from Dan Bonino and say some somebody talk to him in in a parking garage before saying that. You know, you're telling me that >> Bondi, who ain't the [ __ ] brightest bulb in the bunch, just made up that all these she had access to all these tapes.
43:53She had access to an Epstein list. She had access to the things many of the things Epste had done. Like it just wasn't real. She just said that. She said that in private conversations that were later leaked.
44:07I don't buy it. I don't think she's that smart. She's that he's not that calculated. Sorry.
44:14Bonjino complained that again that he had given up his highrated show in millions of dollars and it's now all disappeared because people think we screwed up something with Epstein, but then he paused and said this is going to be President Trump's Iran Contra. It's looking like that. It's I'd say he might he might have cooked on that one, but again like the the strange loyalty >> to a man instead of to the truth.
44:39>> Yeah.
44:40>> Is at the heart of this whole thing.
44:42>> Yep. And there's there's a severe severe problem with that.
44:48>> You know, like there's always like the like people talk about Trump derangement syndrome. [snorts] >> Yes.
44:53>> We we got to have a new one for like the people who just throat him incessantly like this >> cuz like that's crazy.
45:02>> Trump throating syndrome. I don't know.
45:04>> Yeah, maybe that's what TTS >> TT Yeah, TTS >> cuz Trump derangement syndrome is very real. Trust me. But like, you know, >> like whatever this is, it's like Jesus Christ, >> this is the same thing. It's just so, you know, because that that is one thing about Donald Trump's career that's not a compliment to him at all. It's just a a fact. This is not a guy who demonstrates long-term loyalty to anyone.
45:28>> No, >> I've said it before, but like >> on the Titanic, he's getting on the boat. [snorts] All right. He's not saying, "You know what? You go save yourself.
45:40>> That lady with a walker. We should let her get on, man. [laughter] He's like He's like stiff armor.
45:44>> He Billy Zayn. He ain't Leo Cap. All right, that's that's the fair way to put it. But there was also an appearance in this article about the now since the incident deceased Charlie Kirk who again when they're writing the recent modern history about this era his name does come up time and time again. This is someone who you know had a direct line to the White House and sometimes maybe that line wasn't nice to him. On July 12th, the president took to Truth Social to defend Bondi against criticism and to urge his boys and gals to stop wasting time and energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody [snorts] that nobody cares about. Before
46:30I go on again, >> just talk about losing your This is like So, rest in peace to to Roy Halliday.
46:40Amazing pitcher, tragic death after his career. But Roy Halliday pitched for the Blue Jays and the Phillies for many years.
46:47You'll see where I'm going with this in a second. And he he was the best pitcher in baseball. He could paint the corners.
46:54He could drill you with heat. He would go seven innings strong all the time, sometimes complete games, and was just an absolute joy to watch. And I can't remember, maybe it was like 2012 into 2013 or 2011 into 2012, but basically suddenly at the end of his career when he was like 34 years old and he had been showing no signs of slowing down, he had a he he had a year where he continued to be like the best pitcher in baseball.
47:20And then literally the next year it was like he couldn't pitch anymore. His body he had worked so hard his whole career, but his body just gave out on him. His RA went from [ __ ] 2.40 to 6.8. 8 and he couldn't pitch like he just it father time caught up with him >> and he couldn't pitch anymore.
47:42Donald Trump is Roy Halliday whether you loved him or hated him. He had PR mastery. So much so that even when he would make a move fast, break [ __ ] brutal error, he could find his way out of it and talk his way out of it and correct the mistake and gaslight people into pretending he never said something.
48:02That Donald Trump is gone. He He does not have he does not have a fast ball.
48:08He does not have a change up. He does not have a curveball. There is no slider with any action or juice on the end. He throws meatballs and gets taken yard every [ __ ] [snorts] true social post he puts out.
48:24Sorry, not sorry.
48:25>> It's honestly a softball pitch at this point.
48:27>> Yeah, softball pitch. Underhanded [ __ ] over 50 men's league softball pitch.
48:32>> Yeah.
48:34>> Where was I? Trump told aids he was very unhappy with some of his most influential supporters in including Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, and Megan Kelly. all of whom were publicly urging the administration to come clean. Kirk had held a TPUSA event the previous day that turned into an Epstein grievance fest with one speaker after another bashing Bondi over her handling of the situation. Trump had called Kirk and scolded him. Nobody in Trump's orbit had a better feel for the younger part of the MAGA base than Kirk. This is one day less than two months before or two days less than two months before Kirk was
49:10killed. Kirk, who saw that the Epstein coverup, as it was now viewed, was capturing attention to an alarming extent. Donald Trump Jr. and JD Vance, both of whom spent considerable time on X and were tapped into the same younger and hyper online portion of the base, were also worried. They urged the White House to change course and force the Justice Department to release more of the files. Vance made clear to colleagues that he feared losing some of the so-called low propensity voters, the young men who were not traditional Republicans, but who had voted for the Trump Vance ticket in 2024. This was an
49:44audience tuned into the quote unquote manosphere. Podcasters like Joe Rogan, and it was worrisome that the podcast hosts themselves now rebelling.
49:55Call me a rebel, [ __ ] I always was and I always will be. This is ridiculous and it's also not fair to a lot of these podcasts. I've talked about it before how like I think it's unfair that guys who had him on the show who also offered to have Kamla on and she just refused get blamed for everything Trump does.
50:13It's [ __ ] It's [ __ ] Now, if people then cover for things later that shouldn't be covered for, well, that's [ __ ] too. But the way that he views this, like this is just podcasts are just all one block and you can just click a button and they'll do what you tell you to do because you're in the [ __ ] white. [ __ ] you. That's no. No.
50:31And I'll again I'll speak for the people I know in the space that are not like that. And I'm not like that. And we're not going to be like that. So if you're planning on turning us into your [ __ ] circa 2020 CNN, find somebody else, pal.
50:46Was there something? Can we actually pull up the part? Can you pull up Rogan?
50:56So go up to the next one.
51:02I'm going to come back to that first one. So the vice president once again is this. So this is the second meeting.
51:14Go up a little bit here. Def go up. So all right. This is what I want. Perfect.
51:19On August 13th, Trump's team met again in the secure complex at 6 p.m. for 2 hours to refine the Epstein defense strategy. Again, the defense strategy, not the transparency strategy, not the let's figure out how to put out the true strategy, the defense strategy. Again, the group included Wilds, Bondi, Blanch, Patel, Blair, Budawich, Chung, and Levit. Vance phoned in for Britain. The vice president once again pushed for the release of as much of the Epstein files as possible. And with an eye on the public messaging, he proposed that he should be the one to appear on Rogan's influential podcast. As if he could just
51:54call him up and say, "I'm going to come on here and give the messaging out."
51:57Again, he's not speaking for Joe Rogan.
51:59This is just how he looks at it, which is why I would love to see Rogan respond to this. Vance had just gotten off the phone with Rogan, and he later told others that Rogan said he wouldn't have Blanch on his show, but he would take Vance, which I didn't see that the first time around. Shout out to Joe because Blanch had suggested earlier that he would just go on Rogan because he, you know, he's so important. Call up Joe Rogan who he's never talked to in his life before and say, "Hey buddy, you know, I'm the deputy attorney general.
52:24I'm going to come on and talk about Epstein." So, I didn't see that part.
52:26So, we already have some clarification right there. Joe Rogan told Todd Blanch to go [ __ ] himself.
52:30>> But he said he have JD, >> but he did say he would have JD Vance on. So, I do want to hear >> don't like that. I would love to hear from Rogan in the interest of transparency here what the context of that was and how much it's actually being discussed what you're going to talk about and things like that cuz that matters with a politician. There's other people that aren't in politics and stuff like that where you know maybe they don't want to talk about some or something like that. And like I said, I'll speak for myself here like this ain't a [ __ ] gotcha place. And there's times where I'm like, well, this
53:04isn't not operating in a journalistic capacity on this [ __ ] podcast about this guy's life story, whoever this is.
53:11So, if you don't want to talk about that thing, that's absolutely fine. But like, when you're talking to the sitting vice president about an ongoing crisis who is suggesting to come on your show to help, I don't know, alleviate the pain of said crisis or get out the message of what the official administration response is.
53:27Yeah, you you you probably got to leave a lot on the table there. Not probably.
53:33You really should. So, I'd love some transparency on that right there. But it's fine. Like, he knows Joe Rogan.
53:40He's been on his show. I don't have a problem with him calling him up or whatever. I have a problem once again for the fifth time I think today with how they talk about him. And that's why I'd love to see Joe clarify that.
53:54All right.
53:56And that's the other thing, man. Like people people are always talking about online and stuff like, "Oh, podcasters are so afraid to criticize Joe Rogan or anything." Joe Rogan's a man. He's mortal. I love the guy. He's a hero of mine. He created the space for what I do. I'm grateful for that forever. But like, he makes mistakes, too. And if he does and it's relevant to his story, we'll report on that and call that out.
54:19And there's some things here that I think he absolutely needs to respond to.
54:22So, if you're watching Joe, I don't think you do, but >> Jamie, let him know.
54:27>> Respond to that. Jamie might actually know.
54:29>> Jamie, you're watching. Let him know.
54:31>> Jamie Jamie watches. Never talked to him either, but I'm pretty sure he watches.
54:35>> All right. So, what else do we got here?
54:37Def. I want to make sure we don't miss anything for the people out there. We got to the second meeting.
54:43>> Blanch wanted to go on Rogan. We did that.
54:45>> Yep.
54:46>> Okay.
54:50Blanch ended up talking to Maxwell for two days. This has already been reported. They just repeated it in this story because it is important for the context, but he talked to her for two days, not on camera. Again, Donald Trump's former personal attorney. And in that time, she said Trump did nothing wrong. yada yada yada dot dot dot dot dot. And then afterwards, she just magically gets moved to a way less, you know, highsecurity prison, minimum security. She gets to play with dogs and stuff there, too, and has all kinds of new privileges, which, you know, I'm sure that's completely unrelated to her
55:25testimony where she made sure that the president was not implicated in anything. Again, if you have nothing to hide, just interview her and don't promise her anything. Why do you have to promise her things? And that goes back to that's why I think it's it's at least something like that. It could be the worst thing. You have to leave that on the table. Maybe Trump really is a monster. I don't know. could be, but like it's at least got to be something like he got introduced in a club to Melania by Epstein. It's something like that. Pure spec. Pure speculation.
55:57>> Spec.
55:57>> Again, for any judges watching out there in the future, they had said that pure speculation. I can't prove that. But like I have to say like what is it? Why are they not being open about this very very important thing? Now, the other thing in here is the nipple gate thing.
56:17So, [snorts] can we type in nipple?
56:19>> Yeah.
56:20>> Sorry.
56:21>> I mean, don't I I love >> I I [ __ ] love nipples, too, but just not in the context what they're suggesting here.
56:28>> Now, Sarah Ransom, who has been, she's an Epstein victim who has been speaking out for years. She was in the [ __ ] documentary that came out, the James Patterson documentary that came out at the very beginning of co Like this is a woman who has been >> very on it with talking about how she was trafficked to Epstein and things she saw.
56:54I don't love how they talked about her here.
56:58They talked, you're going to see that they they talk about Sarah Ransom like a defense attorney talks about a witness in a really highprofile awful crime case that they have a job to try to destroy, right?
57:18Because they're constitutionally obligated to defend their client in court, right? So, think someone who's claiming to be a rape victim or someone whose sister was murdered by a guy and and and she witnessed it and they got to try to make her out to the jury to be unreliable.
57:37That is how they talk about Sarah Ransom here. Now, Sarah Ransom, who later sued Cena Maxwell, the old the old Joffrey case, referring to to Virginia Roger Roberts Juay, the old Juay case file included emails sent to a journalist by another Epstein victim, Sarah Ransom, who had later sued Epste and Maxwell.
57:58Epste had also settled that case. He settled it. In the emails, Ransom claimed that she knew a girl in Epstein's sex trafficking ring named Jen, who said she had sex with Trump.
58:09Ransom also claimed that Jen had told her that Trump had a predilction for nipples and that he had aggressively flicked and sucked hers. Random wrote Ransom wrote that she had seen evidence when she shared a bathroom with Jen.
58:20Quote, "They looked incredibly painful as they were red and swollen, and I remember wincing when I looked at them," she wrote. Ransom's credibility was not uncomplicated.
58:31She had made another claim that she possessed video footage of prominent men having sex with young girls in Epstein's entourage. She later retracted the claims, saying she feared for herself and her family if she proceeded. But after a federal judge ordered the unsealing of some of the Juay case files in 2023, the document that connected Trump to the claim that abuse about abused nipples was among the material that came out. It was an unconfirmed allegation and had not been made public, but the disclosure led to some articles that were quickly lost in the swirl of election year news. Trump, some of
59:05Trump's advisers in the situation room had never heard of the nipple claim.
59:08Those who seem to have only had a passing familiarity with it.
59:12Many in the room thought this was all just discredited nonsense, but it might not matter. The ransom emails could get new attention if they were included in quote a public-f facing and searchable quote unquote Epstein library that carried the branding of the Justice Department. An administration official had already searched for Trump related materials on the still private test version of the website that we all now can access as it would later come out and the nipple material was among the first items to show up. None of the credibility issues would come into consideration if a government endorsed
59:40database gave Ransom's claim about Trump a stamp of validity. Quote, "This is out there. They're going to make a they're going to make a huge scene of this even though it's not true and everybody knows it. Can we get a little more on this? I think they said so. Blanch argued that the context the ransom document and Ransom's disavowel of some of her other claims would make clear why the allegations related to Trump had never been pursued for prosecution. Again, he is thinking like a personal defense attorney. This is an at the time deputy attorney general of the United States.
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