0:01do want to hit this because Amanda Ugaro sent this to me. Amanda Unaro, the exalisan poli who I talked to for an hour last month and then we talked about it >> on an episode at the beginning of August, but you know, again, I've said this about Amanda before, not a woman I want to be on her bad side. Like I, you know, Paulo, big mistake getting on her bad side because she don't give up. So, this was actually a very under the radar filing that happened that Inner City Press and I don't remember this guy's name. I have seen him for years though.
0:36This guy, Inner City Press, is it Matthew Russell Lee? That's him.
0:40>> Yeah, the article.
0:41>> Okay, shout out to this guy. Whenever there is any kind of case, and I mean if someone took a [ __ ] on Fifth Avenue in the wrong place and it is being brought up in the Southern District of New York, this guy's in the courtroom and he like he's always on it. In fact, I looked once before every time there's like even some case with like a little bit of media attention, he will instantly publish like self-publish, you know, an 80 100page book about it.
1:09>> I don't know how many he has, but he has like a lot. So he's just like on it with what's happening in court and obviously has some great sources in the clerk's office there, you know, pure respect.
1:19But anyway, he was able to to find that a UN rape case was filed civily. So a civil case alleging rape filed by Victoria Drake against Paloan Pulley. I want to highlight this is civil, not criminal, and it's allegations not confirmed. just covering that for the back end, but it was filed with with United Nations ambassadors cited in it.
1:41So he put a screenshot to the filing and then DF you pulled it up already, but that article just so I get it. So a woman named Victoria Drake on September 3rd filed a lawsuit against Palisan Poli in the US District Court for the Sun District of New York where inner city press found it. He found it. Joey Def.
1:57>> Let's [snorts] go, dude. Now, how do you think he found? Do you think like you think maybe someone like just let a copy of it blow in the wind while they were taking a smoke break and just turned around like nothing happened and then he came out of the shadows and just like picked it up, took a picture and reported it. And like that's how they do it.
2:12>> No.
2:13>> No.
2:13>> This guy's Batman.
2:14>> He's Batman.
2:15>> Yeah. Matthew Russell Lee. He disarmed a couple of people, subdued them.
2:20>> Oh, he disarmed them.
2:21>> I think he like broke into the office, hit a couple of file cabinets. Wait, so they were guarding this civil case with with people?
2:28>> Yeah, they guard they guard they guard the office with the filing cabinets in it and he had to like go and subdue them like Batman.
2:34>> Now, are we talking like handguns in the holster or we talking like full-blown like uzies in in the >> There's probably one with an AR, one with just a handgun and a donut, but he's going at both of them full force.
2:44>> He's like, I'm going to get this file.
2:46>> Yeah. You know, like how Batman doesn't kill anybody, but he'll like break their cloud everything in them.
2:51>> Yeah. Like paralyze them. Like that's what he's doing now. He's paralyzing all the clerks >> and then he's just like going he's flipping through the files and he's like >> and you're going to love me.
3:00>> Yeah, [clears throat] that's right.
3:01>> That's what he's doing.
3:02>> So before alleging rape, the complaint recounts that Zampoli quote invited Plainif, referring to Victoria Drake, her friend and two junior UN ambassadors, to his town home, which is where at different points for long periods Amanda lived with him and then also was getting away from him too. So maybe he was getting lonely at this point and decided to go commit crimes. I don't know. Pure spec. Anyway, but address is omitted by inner city press.
3:27Nice of him to do that. But it is publicly available. People can Google that. I'm not going to say it's classy.
3:32>> A sprawling multifloor residence that housed multiple tenants and contained a situation room, ambassador room, at least one elevator, and featured a pool and adjacent bedroom. So Joey Dev, I do have to say this. If I were a major modeling executive and I were designing like my dream home in Manhattan where every square foot cost [ __ ] $40 million.
3:52>> Yeah.
3:52>> There is no doubt in my mind that before I looked at the master bedroom, before I looked at like the master bathroom, the kitchen, what do they call the place where you walk in?
4:02>> The foyer.
4:02>> The foyer. Before I look at any of that >> Mhm.
4:05>> I'm going up to whatever [ __ ] construction guy is running this. Yeah.
4:09And first, you know, I I got to check in and be like, "Yo, Mario with the Columbos, he's cool. He's good." You know what I mean?
4:16>> Quick union job. We're out of there.
4:17>> Yeah. So, once we clear it with Mario and all that. Now, I go to construction guy. Hopefully, his legs aren't broken at this point from Fight with Mario, but neither here nor there. And he's got like that full page in front of him, kind of like Danny Jones when he drew studio. The blueprint. He's got the blueprint. Thanks for the help. So, he's got the blueprint in front of him. And I go, "No, no, stop at all those rooms.
4:38Mhm.
4:38>> The most important room, the first place that we are designing here is the situation room >> because as a modeling executive, >> these are matters of national security and I need a situation room.
4:50>> Yeah, but you got to remember Palo Zanoli is a ball and so he probably was like, sorry, I'll mark that. I forget that I'm one so I can say it. But, you know, he probably was like on that Jersey Shore [ __ ] and he's like, "We got a situation." And he was like, "Yo, we got to make a situation room."
5:08>> And I think I it checks out. The problem is he would never say it like that. One of, if not the most common DMs I get on Instagram are many of you asking me what my favorite books are. Well, today's your lucky day because if you use the link in my description below to join my newsletter, I'm going to give you my top 10 book recommendations right now. Also, if you'd like to join my clipping community for a chance to make money producing content from the show, you can do so via the Discord link in my description below. And finally, you can join my Patreon for early uncensored releases of the full episodes via the
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5:49>> Well, it's hard to say anything, man. Situation on you know what I mean.
5:55He's got a pretty thick accent.
5:57>> Yeah. And he's balls in his mouth. So it's >> That's right. Anyway, so after the incident, the complaint described the plaintiff trying to leave the town home, but says she quote, "ended up on the floor that she did not recognize. There she saw defendant Zampoli's son playing video games and realized she was back in defendant Zoli's town home." The complaint cites the Gender Motivated Violence Protection Act, Administrative Code of the City of New York, section 8/904, and was filed at Oh, he even has the time. This guy's good. At 900 p.m. on September 3rd, 2026, the same day that Leon Black sued Congress. Very
6:33interesting.
6:34>> That's good.
6:35>> By a law firm at 45 Broadway in Lower Manhattan. So, this is a case that's been I believe this is the one we discussed before, but now it's officially been filed civily and maybe I don't know. I know I don't have any sources here other than Amanda finding out that it got filed. I don't know any more context. Don't know more than you guys out there, but maybe something like this actually, you know, gets to a point where maybe they got to settle and then a little investigator starts sniffing around. [snorts] I mean, in a good way, not like the New York sniff sniff, right?
7:06>> Yeah. I was just thinking like when she sees his son playing video games, he's just like beating up hookers on Grand Theft Auto. [laughter] Like father like son. I'm kidding. It's a joke. Don't sue me.
7:17>> It's a joke.
7:20>> Pure respect.
7:21>> He just hears like a bunch of wrangling in the house and pots and pans flying around and then he's just like on Grand Theft Auto just with a bat.
7:30>> Oh, by the way, this just reminded me before I forget. People asking for the Pure Spec merch.
7:36We have it ready to go. Joey De's been all over it.
7:39>> Yeah. Know I have.
7:40>> But uh we're having a little problem with Snap Inc.
7:45>> Like Snapchat.
7:47>> Yeah.
7:47>> Who is threatening litigation >> on my trademark of pure spec.
7:54>> Look forward to seeing them in court.
7:56[snorts] >> Me versus a [ __ ] I don't know 46 trillion dollar [ __ ] company. But you know >> what could go wrong, right? It's it's such [ __ ] though. Like they're claiming it for like their spec lenses or whatever. We have pure spec, meaning speculation. It has absolutely nothing to do with that. It's not to be confused with that. The context is all there. I feel like I got a good case here. I'm talking to my trademark attorney who [ __ ] bills me $2,000 a text. He's really good though. Very worth it.
8:26>> Yeah.
8:26>> And maybe, you know, >> and stuff like that. It's like first of all, you know, no one's I mean, everyone is going to get the Meta Glasses any like, you know, I don't hear anyone rushing to get those and that then it'll be done in two years. They won't make them anymore.
8:40>> That's right. You know, I I don't I don't I don't know why they're they're causing an issue, but >> they should give us a a filter for the show.
8:47>> That's right. That's right. Give us a filter.
8:49>> Give us a snap filter >> and then maybe maybe we'll talk about cutting you in. Maybe. I don't know.
8:54Probably not. But like I'll at least say that >> you got you you throw us a bone.
9:00Maybe you get a little one. Right.
9:02>> Anyway, I there's a bunch of stuff here, Dee. I think some of it we're going to punt to next week that because it's it's fine. It's not like pressing to do, but one that I have to hit before we move on here. I just I >> I can't miss my mark on this one is is our friend Cash Patel.
9:19>> Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, the head of the FBI is a re pun intended here. You'll see where I'm going with that in a minute. I've said it forever.
9:29I'm not just talking about his eyes that don't know which direction they want to look at any given moment. I am saying it because he is genuinely fully died in the wool ret. And this is all a meme at this point. A meme of the FBI, which the FBI already was having some low moments here. I mean, we can look at a history and talk about low moments, but then you could look through some things in history and be like, well, maybe there's plenty of people there with good intentions, and, you know, some okay things happen. A little entrapment here and there, a little cover up here and there. Don't don't worry about that. But
10:02you could say that some justice occurred. Jim Comey comes in at some point and it seems to all go to [ __ ] A lot of people who maybe were, I don't know, decent FBI agents, Steve, seemed to leave the FBI after that. And then it was just a [ __ ] mess for a whole litany of reasons in the wake of Jim Comey. And so you think to yourself, it can't get worse. [laughter] It can't get worse. Donald Trump's going to come in here and clean everything up, right, Joey Deep? That's what he told everyone he's going to do. Yep.
10:33>> And he could think of no one to clean that place up better [laughter] >> than Josh Patel.
10:42>> Just look at that guy, dude.
10:44>> There's another reason we're laughing there. But >> yeah, no, he's great. He He definitely was the cool guy in high school for sure. No doubt about it. But Cash Patel is in the news yet again and just keeps adding to the list of like reason to get fired and still somehow doesn't get fired because apparently when you are the FBI director these days your priority is PR on Twitter X whatever you want to say. So you pull up this uh text conversation you found Joey Def.
11:15>> Yeah.
11:16>> Or you know what actually go back for one sec. You were right. I'm wrong.
11:20Yeah. We got to read the context first so people have it. So, Cash Patel wanted FBI staff and and this is not hyperbole.
11:26We're going to read the text in a second. Cash Patel wanted FBI staff to run an influence campaign on X by replying to Epstein tweets with bureau stats. He then asked his spokesman to rep [laughter] to reply to, and this is a real account on Twitter that's pretty funny, at least from what I've seen, the the Iind post saying it had gotten 277K responses. You know how you know he's tapped in on social media?
11:56>> Mhm.
11:56>> He said he's he's abbreviating the K.
11:58>> Yeah.
11:59>> Like he he knows what's up. He's like, "Yo, it's that 277K, bro."
12:02>> Yeah.
12:02>> That's a problem. That's a problem. that gets to 350, we we out, right? His spokesman corrected him and said it had 277K views. I'm sorry, he's not good at social media. He just thinks he is. And just 400 replies. That's not a lot. He also warned that engaging quote would look bad on you, referring to Cash Patel. So, here is the text message with Ben Williamson, FBI public affairs, who God bless whoever got this. This is how secure our FBI is. Text messages with the head of public affairs or whatever he is and the head of our FBI are coming public. So there's a link at the top.
12:42This is from February 5th, 2026.
12:46Cash Patel is at the Blu-Tech. So he is sending this link, meaning he's actively on his Twitter during the day. Do we have a time stamp on that, De?
12:53>> Yeah. 2:42.
12:54>> 242 p.m. So all right, let's let's game this out. Show he's at his desk at the >> Just came back from lunch. He's hammered. He's [laughter] because he's gonna have a few cocktails at lunch and he's like, "You know what? This FBI director is going to take these Epstein cats down and finally once and for all prove that there was no foul play cuz this FBI director is hammered off whiskey."
13:22And so he sat at his desk, popped an upper decki.
13:28He's got a Zen. Yeah, he threw a Zen in.
13:31Is he wearing the FBI jacket? The windbreaker?
13:33>> No, he wears a wife beater in the [laughter] office.
13:35>> Hears a wife beater in the office.
13:37>> But it's like it's like it's like a wife beater that at the end of the day he takes it off and throws it on the chair and then washes at the end of the week.
13:43So like if it's like Thursday, it's got like some stains like a little bit of little curry on it.
13:49>> Sweat on it. Yeah. Scurvy.
13:52>> That's right. That's right.
13:53>> Yeah.
13:54>> Okay. So he's not wearing the windbreaker, but he's got the windbreaker hanging up behind him.
13:57Right.
13:58>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you could see it like if he's on a Zoom doing an interview with Fox News or these in the FBI.
14:03>> Yeah. And he has like one of those like um it's like something it's similar to a tuxedo t-shirt but it it looks like he's wearing his FBI stuff if that makes sense.
14:13>> Does it have like a like a fake >> little seal on it? Yeah.
14:16>> Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
14:17>> Yeah. Just in case he has to take a Zoom, >> right?
14:20>> Doesn't wear pants. You don't need pants on Zoom. No, >> he's not. Is he gooning?
14:23>> No, he's not gooning. No, no, no, no.
14:25Don't do that. Don't do that. [laughter] >> Cash ain't gooning. No, no, he's he's trying to put in an honest day's work, [laughter] >> but you know, apparently he's got a very good relationship. So, >> yeah, >> he got hammered at lunch. He didn't goon, [laughter] >> you know.
14:41>> He comes back from lunch. FBI jackets hanging up behind. He's wearing the FBI like fake t-shirt kind of thing in case he's got to go on Zoom just in case.
14:48>> He's maybe like four sheets to the wind.
14:50We won't say six because he's got good content up there. Is it continents for that or constitution? Constitution is the right way. I say he's got a good constitution. So, you know, just don't look at him at him at the Olympics after he flew on a private FBI plane to get there. Neither here nor there. But he's sitting there and he's like looking through Twitter because that's what you do when you're the head of the FBI. You look at a page called Iind and you're like, "This is 400 replies too many."
15:17>> He's like, "Oh, >> about our [snorts] Epstein investigation, which is absolutely unimpeachable. It's been done so well.
15:25There's been zero cover up of it. In fact, the trans, it's so transparent your head's gonna [ __ ] spin. Yeah.
15:31And they are lying about us. And my job as the head of the FBI and the government, >> I, Cash Patel, obviously I'm playing this out. I'm not actually Cash Patel.
15:39>> I, Cash Patel, need to fight back against this. And I need to employ what is this guy called again? The FBI public affairs head, Ben Williamson. I need to deploy him into the comments sections >> to make sure the people know.
15:54>> Yep. the hard and good work the FBI is doing.
15:56>> Yep.
15:57>> Is Does that say 2026 or 2025?
16:00>> 2026.
16:01>> Okay. So, it's 2026. So, there's no more Bonino.
16:03>> No.
16:03>> He's got no more Dan in there.
16:05>> He's fresh to the job, too. He's feeling good.
16:07>> Yeah.
16:08>> It's good to see that to get a good start at his new job. He's doing stuff on Twitter.
16:13>> You know, it's good.
16:14>> That's right. Head's in the right place.
16:16>> He probably still has like Dan on like speed dial so you can call him up and like that's like his console on the outside.
16:22>> That's true. That's true. and just reaffirm everything he does so that Dan can go tell all 10 of his listeners who still listen to him all about it.
16:28Anyway, so he sends this link to the iind account and Ben Williams said Ben Williamson says this is in quote Epstein didn't kill himself. I think I actually have to mark that thief unfortunately because of YouTube >> unquote bot account if you're wondering where that's coming from. And then cash says three texts back to back to back.
16:52277K responses are not bots. When I asked you and your team, what I asked you and your team to do is find them and post on record our record year results back at them all continuously. He wants a continuous barrage. FBI working, locking people up, doing everything, not covering up the Epstein files. He says, "Have they been doing that?" Ben Williamson replies, "That's views. It's 400 responses. A real visible tweet gets 5x that."
17:29And then Cash Patel responds to, "Yes."
17:31Or he responds to Cash's previous tweet and says, "Yes, we're not responding to quote, I find re that would look bad on you." Cash Patel then comes in and says, "It's not about them. M >> it's about the number of views. It's about sending a message. It's not about the money.
17:51>> Yeah. No, he's dude >> because people see it and need to be seeing our stats. [snorts] >> Yeah. Got to see those stats, >> dog. He's great, dude.
18:03>> Dog dog. You know, [snorts] >> I've always said I've said this forever.
18:09I'll say it till I'm blue in the face.
18:12Every administration needs to be judged on its own merits. You want to sit out there and you want to say the Biden administration was completely incompetent. I completely agree with you. You're right. They were. Didn't even know what time of day it was. He definitely didn't know what time of day it was.
18:29The Trump administration is the same thing in a whole bunch of different ways. I mean, there there will be an episode like we've been collecting some links on just some of the like we've talked about some of the inside business deals that have been going on there throughout the administration. There are so many more. So, I think in an episode in a couple weeks, we'll we'll go through some of them cuz we've literally been collecting them and it's just laughable. You have a guy like this running running air quotes the FBI and like I'm supposed to take the country [ __ ] seriously.
19:00And by the way, you know, [snorts] shout out to the people at FBI who probably actually care about their job cuz there are some of those people there. Like the fact that they're sitting here and this is their boss. God bless them, man.
19:12>> I mean, >> better person than me.
19:14>> When there's six of them, it's hard, dude. [laughter] >> It's a small group.
19:20>> Hey, to the six of you out there, keep doing what you're doing. We're proud of you. The taxpayer [laughter] thanks you.
19:28>> Yeah. All right, that's that's all I got to say about that. There's like four there. We'll do those next week. So, we'll mark that. But >> we do need to talk about the Clancy thing. Like I said, there's a reason I wasn't doing this out front.
19:41>> It is something that continues to be in the news and is a unfortunately a forced cultural phenomenon that, you know, some of the opinions certainly have to be addressed. So, I have a lot of links there, de of like just some different things that happened this week that kind of are exactly what I thought they were going to be >> that prove the point. But I do want to say, >> as I said at the outset, a lot of people reached out this week, some through public comments, of course, and then a lot through DMs.
20:13You know, I'm sure like they were doing a lot of people on social media who I think were having good takes on this, saying, you know, thanks for at least stating the obvious here. And then there was a small sliver of people who were like, "Yo, you're totally missing this."
20:24Whatever. Some were a little more innocent than others, I think, and just severely misguided. Others, I think, were frankly totally brainwashed. And obviously, those are all private people.
20:35I'll keep that out of it. But I did see some of those DMs. I think only, it is worth noting, I think only one of them came from a man. Any DMs I got like that came from a woman. Do with that what you will. But we are on a pathway right now of suicidal empathy.
20:54When you live in a society where you can't put at the forefront a 5-year-old, a three-year-old, and an infant as the key victims in a case, you are living in a society that is on a pathway to complete destruction. That is not a hot take at all. That is about as objective as you can get with something that is technically an opinion. I do have to say that because it is my opinion.
21:23I don't want to live in a country where yes, you have to put the burden of proof on the government to prove a case. But I don't want to live in a country to where before the government even opens their mouth in a case that is very very clear in my opinion you are already assuming that there's no possible way the person across there could have committed the crime. I understand that when you look at Lindsay Clancy, you see like this, you know, petite, seemingly innocent looking, I should say, white woman that, you know, was a mother to three kids and no one ever thought she was a monster before this and yada yada yada
22:09or whatever. And you know, she seems like someone you could empathize with as there's no way she could have ever done this in her right mind. But the fact of the matter is evil has a way of disguising itself in a really good looking [ __ ] mask sometimes. And you got to judge things on the merits. And so last week, before we knew anything about these jurors who were kind enough to come forward this week and basically confirm all my suspicions, before we knew anything, I already thought we had 11 people who were completely broken in how they looked at the situation. I got firm confirmation on that week when they were
22:56here to open their mouths.
22:59But so many people have continued to argue online that Patrick Clancy did this, which goes against every piece of evidence imaginable. This is a man who left the house at approximately 5:00 p.m., did not return until 6:09. They have him on security camera footage.
23:18They have his cell phone tracked. They have her tracked in some cases with the phone call that went to her during the time she very clearly executed her plan.
23:29I really did not mean a pun there at all. That's that's really mean. I I didn't mean that. Like she did her plan where she killed her children, not one, not two, but all three with an exercise band. And for some reason people want to say that the whole thing was psychosis.
23:52You can hold two thoughts at the same time. People, you can say, and you should, and I said this last week, but let me just be crystal clear on this.
24:00You can say that like we need to have a better medical system. We need to have a better system for being able to help young mothers after they have a child.
24:11We need to remove the stigma around postpartum depression. We need to take a look at the way that doctors [ __ ] administer drugs like they're going out of business. We need to look at the options of drugs that they can administer. Maybe some of them shouldn't even be options at all. All these things are true. I'm not arguing that like the system failed her. I will argue with people saying her husband completely failed her in every facet. Are there things that he fell short on? Sure. Let the person who's perfect be the first to throw a stone from a glass house, though. This is a guy who moved his home
24:45office back into his place, you know, went to appointments with her, tried to get her help. I could nitpick it and say there's some things he didn't do for sure. No one's perfect. And the fact that then the guilt goes towards him when he's a father who lost all his kids is just so [ __ ] [ __ ] up. And I'm not coming off that. That's crazy to me.
25:13It's absolutely [ __ ] crazy to me.
25:16Last week I read you read you meaning me just here in the studio read you the transcript of the phone call and that clip went viral because people felt that. And that's just my dumbass reading it. What I want you to do is listen to Lindsey Clancy's lawyer, Readington. Listen to every juror who was who are [ __ ] morons, by the way. But even all them will tell you that that is one of the worst things they've ever heard in their life. Listen to anyone who's in the courtroom. We played one of them last week. Talk about the actual 911 recording, which again is not publicly available.
25:57Well, that's why I'm saying you have to take everyone else's word who heard it.
26:00They will all tell you to a tea, including her defense attorney, that it is the worst thing they've ever heard.
26:07No one could ever fake it. Not the best actor in the world. And there is nothing to feel for Patrick Clancy in that tape other than pure unabated sorrow for a father who lost his kids. So, when people are coming out of there and completely ignoring evidence or changing it up, oh my god, you should have seen some of the DMs I got where like it's just verifiably false. You can go look at the evidence of the case, look at the testimony and the claims that are being made, you know, about like, oh, he crushed up pills in her in in her lemonade and everything and it's definitely provable that he put it in
26:38the lemonade cuz she never drank lemonade.
26:41That's not true. Even the psychiatrist said on the stand, he's like, "It's common for someone who's trying to commit suicide to do it in a drink that has taste to it because you're crushing up a bunch of pills, which is what's alleged right there, and trying to off yourself." Like the like this is this is perfectly reasonable explanation. You know, the to see people just want to assume it was the man that did it is crazy. And we're going to get to the hold out juror here cuz there was a little as we said the outside little news on that today that is quite a boomerang effect on where society is here from like the worst kind of irony.
27:21I mean I mean I'm I just said a lot right there but you were looking at everything coming back this week.
27:28What do you think?
27:31I may [laughter] I think uh she did that and uh she needs to answer for that.
27:40>> Who's talking right now?
27:42>> I am.
27:44>> Who's I?
27:45>> Joey.
27:46>> Okay.
27:47>> Yeah, >> I think that started. It's like Ed Norton and uh >> what what did I do >> in Primal Fear? I think I think that started >> whether I may.
27:55>> Yeah, I think that started with someone else and then landed on Aaron.
27:59>> Yeah. I mean, listen, it's not looking good. It's not looking good. And I know if that were me in her position, probably would have gotten uh 20 to life already.
28:09>> I I think so. And there have been plenty.
28:12>> Not trying to make it a gender thing.
28:14>> It's just like, hey, kids, kill the kids. I mean, let's let's let's wrap this up. It's almost time for lunch is the way I see it. But I don't know.
28:23>> Maybe I'm callous.
28:24>> That's how I do it, too. And by the way, it's not unprecedented that like when there's been a man on trial who killed his kids that he claimed that he was mentally incapacitated and a jury agreed with that. That has happened before to be clear. It's just wild how much attention this one has gotten. Mhm.
28:43>> Which also then leads to the topline issue even above the whole case itself, which is like, all right, why are they lighting a [ __ ] gasoline fire on this at all times so that the whole [ __ ] feed is filled with this? What else is happening right now? They don't want you talking.
28:57>> Yeah. I was like, oh, are we sending troops to Iran? Like, what's the what's the deal here?
29:03>> Yeah. Yeah. And you know when when you watch the testimony of the states witnesses. So I want to be clear like in this case I'm talking about the states witnesses because both sides bring on their expert witnesses and that's how every case ever has worked in fairness to all the lawyers [snorts] involved from the prosecution to Readington. It's always you bring on your experts, I bring on mine. They agree to find different conclusions or whatever. It's one of those things. It's just a part of how the case works. It makes it messy.
29:32It makes it incentivized because experts are paid witnesses as well, you know, but the state's witness determined that she was not in psychosis.
29:42And again, you can put on the act later.
29:46Kevin Readington came up with this postpartum defense later. This wasn't the defense when she was arrested. And I do want to play that real quick right off right out of the gate here. So, under the Readington section, you see the one that's greened. Mhm.
30:01>> There's a lot of clips where Kevin, his first name is Kevin, right? I'm not [ __ ] that up. It's Kevin Readington.
30:08>> Um, I think so.
30:09>> Did my brain just [ __ ] up? Short. I just always call him Readington.
30:12>> No, no, it's it's Kevin.
30:13>> Okay. All right. So, there's a lot of clips over the past couple weeks of not only what he said in court where he made no argument that Lindsey Clansancy didn't do this. He they were the whole case was built on them admitting they did this. And I do want to say I saw a lawyer, there's a long video on Instagram of a lawyer explaining legal jiu-jitsu as to why this isn't necessarily her admitting she did it.
30:41Sorry, not buying it. If you're a defense attorney and you have all the time in the world to go make this case and I'm talking even before the trial when you're at the pre-trial hearings and everything and like eventually it comes down to, okay, are we going to argue guilty or not guilty by reason of insanity? which means in both cases it's like an admission, and I'll put that in air quotes, that she actually did it.
31:03There's no [ __ ] way the guy would triple down so hard on not only defending that in court, but also openly saying there were some times where he danced around it, but eventually he openly was saying that not only does he think it's ridiculous all the conspiracy theories against Patrick Clancy, but that like Lindsay supports him and that he was a supportive husband of her and everything and like it's clear that he did not do this. So, let let's let's play this this second video right there.
31:36There's a lot of videos I could play. I don't I don't want to play too many of them, but this one right here from one of his recent interviews after the case was listed as a mistrial.
31:45>> Well, Kevin hasn't come out and really done a fullthroated support of Patrick Clancy. What did you say about that?
31:51>> I have repeatedly repeatedly >> and did during the trial and prior to the trial >> listen to the 911 call >> and the gut >> the public has not heard it. the jury.
32:02>> I understand that the judge made that ruling, but this I've said repeatedly the gut-wrenching >> horror that that is in his voice. No actor in in California could ever imitate that. It's it's obvious that Patrick was a a man who who stood by his wife through all of the difficulty of the medical issues, the psychiatric issues, the pharmaceutical issues. He doesn't have to say this, and even up to the time of trial and even afterwards.
32:29and the man ought to be able to move [clears throat] on with his life and stop with the the speculation and horrific conspiracy allegations that he was involved with some massive conspiracy to kill his children.
32:41>> So, what do you say to the people who are still pushing that theory that Patrick Clancy was involved in these children's murder?
32:47>> As I've said before, I I think that it's horrific what this man has been going through and he's entitled to move on with his life. and the fact he's moved on with his life >> and still is standing by Lindsay as far as the legal issues tells tells the tale.
33:02>> Now, there are going to be people there who come I can already see it. They be like, "Well, he's he's not saying directly that he definitely didn't do it. He's leaving the door open and he's just trying to set a public threat."
33:13Listen, people, he's a defense attorney.
33:17He's always going to watch how he says every goddamn thing. Apparently, he didn't look up how a pardon works, though. I did see that he asked Trump for a [ __ ] pard and it's a state case. Maybe my lawyers can help me out with that, but I don't think that's really how it works. Anyway, but when it comes to the case, like the actual case, of course, he's why this is this is not a dumb attorney. This guy's a good attorney. Like, he's watching every little thing he says. But he did this in from what I counted nine different interviews that I saw over just the last couple days, which means there were way
33:47more where he was repeatedly and in different some different words every time >> saying this exact point. And he also there was the prosecution one place where they did do an excellent job during the case and I think the prosecution, you know, they could have done a better job in in in plenty of spots. No doubt about that. But one place where they did do a very good job is laying out the minuteby-minute timeline in in the husband's testimony, Patrick Clancy's testimony as to where he was at each point so that you could determine that completely and not get arguments against it. And that at the end of the day appears to be an agreed
34:31upon outcome. And like I said, every juror went out of their way to say this.
34:38Now, let's talk about those jurors, though. I have often said in different contexts over the years, and it's it's it's a it's a tough thing cuz like juries are a key part of the American system and our justice system, which has a lot of good to it. I've obviously always point out a lot of problems with it, but when you compare it into the history of the world, there's a lot of good things about our system. But one unfortunate thing about it that I've often said cynically is that in many cases, not always, but in many cases, juries are comprised of people who are a little too dumb to get out of [ __ ]
35:17jury duty. It's not hard to do. Okay?
35:21And you know, you shouldn't necessarily say that. I will hypocritically admit that it's not a nice thing to say in America because juries are a pillar of the system, but you know, people got busy lives and stuff. They don't always have time to sit there for [ __ ] 3 months during a murder trial. I I certainly would never be able to do it and I'd be able to make that case very quickly when being called upon jury duty. Like I would not be able to operate my business without me being here. And so there we go. But you know, there's other people who were like not the worst thing in the world. Little
35:50paid time off.
35:51>> Yeah. little, you know, >> lunch.
35:54>> Well, free lunch.
35:55>> Lunch.
35:56>> Get to sit here and play true crime.
35:58>> Yeah.
35:58>> Right. And one of the stories I've always cited, >> I don't know if you would want me to say his last name.
36:06>> I want to say his last name because it's kind of a flex as far as like what he did here because I always thought it's the funniest [ __ ] thing ever. But I have a friend named Tommy and I won't say his last name, but we're going to call him Tommy. And this guy, I'm trying to think if I should change change his geol location. Let's just say this guy went way back with him. He's he's a friend from college. He's one of those hilarious dudes who's way too good-looking for his own good. Always getting the most women imaginable. And his whole shtick is like he's kind of like an [ __ ] but it's like assumed
36:46that you have to understand that he's that cuz it's funny. and then you like him and that means some people [ __ ] hated him but a lot of people [ __ ] loved him and greatest guy ever. But anyway, Tommy is someone I would describe as a very macho heterosexual male and [laughter] he bought a shirt the first time he was called to jury duty and he actually had to like show up to do it. So he he he goes out and he buys this shirt and this guy's about 6'3 6'4 a boxer decked deck the [ __ ] up probably [ __ ] 3% body fat. He buys a shirt that is about four to five sizes too small. So the sleeves are all the
37:27way up here. It is literally choking him out. And the shirt simply says I heart my two dads. That [ __ ] walked into the jury pool and within three minutes was struck and out of there for the simple [ __ ] effort of going to a thrift shop and buying the gayest shirt imaginable at a small size. That's how easy it is to get out of jury duty in this country. So when you see 12 people to get on to JURY DUTY, THEY'RE NOT SENDING THEIR BEST IN MANY CASES.
37:59UNFORTUNATELY, I hate that I'm saying that. I I really do, but I have said it before and some people have grilled me for that. But it is what it is. So when I saw these people come forward this week and do so with what I would call a vendetta in in many of the cases towards the lone juror that seemed to hold out here. I was quite disappointed. So let's start with I think my favorite of all of them.
38:26Juror number one. Can we play the first clip >> of her saying I would say the quiet part out loud, but there's really nothing quiet about this. So, I I just want you guys to to hear this so that I you know, I'm not thinking I'm sitting here crazy hearing this. And there's going to be we got we got a few clips here. Here we go.
38:46Juror one.
38:47>> Not sure if rogue is the right word, Sue. But every one of us in the hours of our frustration would get up and walk the room >> cuz you just couldn't say you got to walk.
38:59>> And would all go >> the with the exhibits. Um he he I think got up to the cart once very briefly and went back to his seat. Um he would not he would not interact with us um and and try to understand. We read to him on numerous occasions the definition of reasonable doubt from Judge Sullivan's instruction. He actually said one day in the end, "Well, why don't we have the judge come in and read it again?" And we were like, "No, we have it in front of us.
39:37>> No, we're going to make that decision."
39:38>> That and we would highlight it. And you know, so and so, this is the definition of reason of love. But he had [sighs] the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously killed our children.
39:53He had the hardest time getting He had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously KILLED HIS CHILDREN. [ __ ] DID YOU [ __ ] PLAY THAT BACK TO YOURSELF? DO YOU HEAR WHAT YOU JUST SAID? HE HAD THE HARDEST TIME GETTING OFF THE FACT THAT Lindsay viciously killed her children. I DON'T KNOW. [screaming] MAYBE BECAUSE SHE VICIOUSLY [ __ ] KILLED HIS CHILDREN.
40:18HER CHILDREN.
40:20WHAT THE [ __ ] ARE WE DOING HERE?
40:23I KNEW THAT WAS COMING. I I That was one crash out I absolutely knew was coming because she's just beautiful. Let's play the next clip of this extremely smart, high IQ, certainly not pressuring, high fallutin [clears throat] who sent on. So, I don't want to dwell too much on the autopsy photos, but I want to ask because I think that it it's obviously important that the violence that was was done to the children was represented as they were the victims in this.
40:53>> However, from my perspective, I thought >> they spent too much time, the prosecution, on the autopsy photos, and I felt that it was unfair to you, the jurors, u considering that the act had been admitted to. What what was your reaction to the amount of autopsy photos that you had to see?
41:13>> Yeah, I thought it was too much. I thought the prosecution was just trying to get us [clears throat] to realize how horrific the whole THING WAS.
41:23>> THAT'S THEIR JOB. THE WHOLE THING was horrific, but I think she they wanted to keep piling [clears throat] on the morbid [gasps] pictures and the morbid part of it all.
41:38Um, which was not even what we were trying to just prove, whether she knew what she was doing or she didn't know what she was doing.
41:55When the asteroid gets sent, I got the coordinates for you. I got the coordinates, God. I just Wherever. Yeah.
42:05I don't mean that literally. YouTube, don't strike me down for that. It the prosecution. It was a little too morbid. It was too morbid for us. It's morbid because the [ __ ] [ __ ] killed all her kids. What do you want him to do? Say, "Yeah, she killed him. Just take our word for it." No. In any murder case, whether it's kids, adults, anything, they show you all of the images. I feel like I got to get Joseph Scott Morgan in here to describe exactly how this goes down in court again. But this is what happens in every [ __ ] trial. And these people are so soft that they're like and and don't get me wrong,
42:43I I think it's horrible that unfortunately in cases in any case, whether it's kid or adults, that people do have to see these things. And that is the job of the jury. I'm not saying they should be like, "Oh yeah, great. I'm seeing dead bodies." I'm not saying it's nice in any way. Don't mishar me. But the fact that they didn't the these people who are preaching on what how the job's supposed to work because apparently they're professional [ __ ] jurors when you listen to them talk all this week, you know, they are also sitting here and quite literally saying that the most important part of their
43:15job, which is taking a look at the evidence at hand, was just a little too much for their safe space. Okay. No, I I just really can't do this. Okay. It's it's giving too much. It's giving too much.
43:30They're we're set. I mean, they're setting back women so many years. Shout out to all the women out there that don't feel this way. I know there's way more of you, but holy [ __ ] So, that one right there, the next link, was also a little bit of overlap with her talking about viciously killing the kids. I'm going to skip some videos here just because they're going to piss me off too much. But they talked about being entertained by Readington. They talked about him like he was the hottest thing ever, which not to defend them at all cuz I think it was ridiculous and obviously I'm making fun of them. Unfortunately, this is a
44:01part of any courtroom.
44:04The RZ wins.
44:06>> The RZ is important. So, regardless of the context in which they were talking about it, which I thought was gross and ridiculous.
44:14Yeah, I will say the prosecution's table wasn't working with a lot of risks and the branding could have been a little better on the government's part. I will say that. And the guy Readington, think what you want of him. Got incredible charisma. Incredible charisma. It's just wild that they're like they're so openly laughing and smiling and citing that in such a serious case involving children who are the victims that they seem to not even want to talk about and you know like totally discount. They also talked about, and they explained this in a long-winded rant, but they talked about how the hold out juror was expressing
44:51reasonable doubt. You heard the first clip where that was mentioned, and there were more clips where these three jurors were all talking about it. And what's very clear from it is that he he most likely, and we can't know this for sure, never said the words, "I have reasonable doubt." They were trying to pressure him into convincing himself that what he was saying was reasonable doubt. And as you heard them say, when he wanted the judge to come in there to give a clarification on stuff, they said, "Nah, hun, you don't need the judge. We got you.
45:22>> We We are the judge. We're the judge, jury, and executioner here. We're executing everyone but Lindsay."
45:30There was also a part where some of the jurors were nurses and they were playing expert in the room. Do we have that link, Die? We should pull that one up.
45:40It's supposed to be equal in a jury room as far as like people all coming around and and assessing the evidence and then coming to a conclusion here. The expertise is supposed to occur in the courtroom. I'm not saying human beings are perfect. I'm not saying someone at one point doesn't say why the [ __ ] doing this for, you know, I'm sure some of that stuff happens, but when nurses start talking about like drug administration and what it does to you and stuff to try to sway the other jurors, I don't know. It's kind of interesting. Let's Is this the This is This is the write up. Okay. So, Judge
46:10Sullivan is getting calls to hold public contempt hearings involving jurors who like Lindsey Clansancy are themselves nurses in the Clansancy murder trial.
46:17This is from Mike Kobe Wild Horse Wild_horse. On Twitter, three female jurors said nurses on the panel answered questions about medications and guided jurors through hospital and toxicology reports during deliberations. I've served on on a jury. Jurors are required to rely only on evidence presented in court. Medical questions should have been answered by sworn experts or sent to the judge for clarification not explained by jurors using their personal knowledge. The nurse jurors are accused of acting as unsworn experts and using their interpretations to influence the panel and pressure the lone hold out
46:49juror to vote not guilty. The jury reportedly deliberated for more than 36 hours across 7 days before becoming deadlocked 11 to1. Discussions allegedly became so heated that alternate jurors thought they were fighting. The nurse jurors should face contempt hearings.
47:03That's his spec, not mine. But kind of interesting. Kind of interesting that they're playing expert in there for sure. The best though, that last link.
47:10Can you hit that last one?
47:13>> Six >> on under one, two, and three. Sorry.
47:18Yeah, right there.
47:21Three Lindsey Clansancy jurors say they plan to attend a potential retrial in support of Clancy after the four person called the mistrial quote so heartbreaking unquote.
47:32We're literally talking about pink shirt ladies who served on the jury and are now going to put on the pink shirts and hold up signs and heart signs for the lady that killed her kids. That's where we're at here, people. So, juror 4, who I believe was disguised identity. They didn't show her face, basically said that she felt I don't think she Did she use the word bullied?
47:56I don't want to say that if she didn't use the official word.
47:59>> Um, >> I believe she said pressured, not bullied.
48:02>> Yeah, I can't see until we watch.
48:04>> Let Let's Let's do that so that there's no mistakes here. I don't want I want the evidence presented as it is. Don't take my word for it. We're going to pull this up, but interesting conversations leading into the her eventually saying that she was going to be voting not guilty by reason of insanity. She was another juror though that clarified that the 911 call was the worst thing she ever heard and that there's no way that could have been faked and she felt awful for Patrick Clancy and that when she left the once the trial was over and she got back online and saw all the conspiracy theories about him, she
48:39thought that was completely wrong.
48:41Anyway, let's play this first clip.
48:42Deep's got it.
48:44>> That person, majority of the room was trying to kind of sway that person from the very beginning.
48:49>> So, where did you come down from the very beginning? Like, what was your vote?
48:55>> So, originally I felt as though she was guilty and she was criminally responsible for it. Um, and maybe I still believe that in a in a certain way. Um, that person.
49:09>> So, she's talking about to be clear. So, again, I want to make sure I had this right because we got a lot of links here and we're running through all this.
49:15She's referring to the pressure on the loan juror, not on her. So, I I want to be clear about that. So, if I'm wrong on the front end, let's make sure we have that on the record right there.
49:25Obviously, we're not perfect in here. We always point that out. But she then, and I will say this, is implicit, not explicit for sure, but she says that originally her vote would have been for guilty and that she was liable for it, meaning not insane. And that I what did she say? I guess maybe there's a part of me that still feels that way. that way, >> which would imply that when she's talking about the pressure on the hold out juror that perhaps there was pressure on her because she's sitting here after the trial and she's like, "Well, maybe I still feel that [ __ ] way." I don't know. That's implicit, not
50:00explicit. Want to be very clear on that.
50:02That's pure spec and opinion on my part.
50:04Very interesting, though. Then you had juror five. Now, there were there were obviously 12 jurors. Nine of them were women. Three of them were men. This is one of the men. And unfortunately this is not a great example for courageous men in this country because you're going to hear in this clip what really shocked him.
50:36And hint it wasn't the fact that there were three viciously murdered kids.
50:43he wouldn't engage or couldn't find something to support his view.
50:47>> There was times he wouldn't engage. Like he'd be scrolling on his phone while people are talking to him.
50:54>> That's another thing we did. Look at this just to make sure we weren't crazy.
50:58>> Mhm.
50:59>> It's not supposed to be phones in a jury in a jury room. I even specifically looked it up related to the Clansancy jury because it said when I went to the rule, they're like, "Generally speaking, it's not allowed in a jury room." Then I said, "Were there phones supposed to be allowed in the Clansancy trial?"
51:12jury deliberations and the answer was hard no. Mhm.
51:16>> But he's referring to the holdout juror in this case, who's the guy we're defending, by the way, having a phone and not then saying, "By the way, none of us had phones either, right?" Like, so maybe implying that people had phones in there, meaning god forbid they had access to the internet to see what people were [ __ ] saying, and maybe they're al total pure spec, but kind of interesting he said that. Let's keep going.
51:38>> Yeah, [snorts] things like that. Dargy told us one time he confronted the hold out after the man picked up what Clancy used to strangle her kids.
51:47>> He took the exercise band out of the bag, grabbed an empty water bottle and and tied the band around the water bottle and pulled it.
51:58>> Did he explain why he did that?
52:00>> No. Um, he might have. I'm I'm not entirely I think I was just so shocked that he did that. Like >> is that a mimic of how She killed the children.
52:11>> Yeah, I I assume so. Yeah.
52:14>> What' you think when he did that?
52:15>> I was shocked. It didn't make any sense to me. Like, we're not in here to play detective or it's not a game of clue.
52:22Like, this is serious. I asked him why why was why why are you doing that?
52:28>> That's a band [clears throat] that was used to strangle a child.
52:30>> It's disgusting.
52:34He's so shocked that the guy uses a water bottle to attempt to appeal to the humanity people in there.
52:45But he's not shocked that he's sitting there ignoring the most important victims that are supposed to be with them in the room, the kids.
52:56That's a weak, weak man right there. And I will die on that [ __ ] hill. There is nothing that happened this week that did not make me feel like I was way too soft last week, let alone aggressive.
53:11You really have to think about this stuff. I had people being like, "How could you question the Charlie Kirk thing but not question this?" It's like, it's it's not that I'm not questioning [snorts] all the piece of evidence presented. We are in trial mode here. We are getting all the evidence presented. It's out there. Not everything looks amazing for Patrick Clancy like as a husband. As I already said, not everything looks cut and dry from a like are you God and can you know who what's in someone's mind 100% sure but like the burden of proof to prove that you're in psychosis at that point at that point like the burden
53:45of proof is on the government to prove the case and I do think they did plenty to do that. They could have done a better job for sure, but like the burden of proof to prove that you hear a voice and whatever, which can't even be proved, is like hypothetically on you.
54:00And I'm saying hypothetically because my legal scholars out there are going to pick apart every little word I say right here, especially if they disagree with me. So, I don't want to get in hot water, but like she is trying to say, "No, I was crazy." with the defense that they came up with later.
54:20[sighs and gasps] There's a lot we're not going to get to today, but there is one more thing as we've been talking about the whole way.
54:25Today we found out not the actual identity of the hold outer, but we found out some of his attributes.
54:36We got that clip from Gail King who was It's like this took her breath away.
54:42Joey Def.
54:43>> Well, here we go.
54:45>> Right. Absolutely. She had to She had to sit with it. She had to sit with it.
54:50Maybe she Yeah.
54:51>> I'm I'm curious about the jurors themselves because we know it was nine women, three men. What was the age range? What was the racial makeup? I haven't heard any of that. What was it?
55:01um 70 in 70ish to 22 >> and um one person of color and then everybody else was white. Um a lot of the jurors had children. [snorts] >> Uhhuh. And >> one person of color was a person of color a woman or a man?
55:21>> A man. [clears throat] >> A man. Oh.
55:23>> Is a hold out juror a person a black man?
55:27>> Yes.
55:28>> A black man is a holdout juror?
55:30>> Yes.
55:32Well, I have to sit with that for just a second. What the [ __ ] do YOU HAVE TO SIT WITH?
55:39>> LIKE, I don't know what's going on in that household, but I also saw like an Oprah [ __ ] round table where they're clapping for a woman saying, "Let's make sure we have the same energy for all the black women who killed their children."
55:51And like everyone in the room [ __ ] clap. Yeah, sister. That's right. HOW ABOUT WE NOT HAVE ENERGY FOR [ __ ] PEOPLE THAT KILL THEIR CHILDREN? HOW about we focus on the children first?
56:03Some of the same people who claim to care so much about all the victims in the Epstein files seem to care about everyone except the kids who were [ __ ] systematically murdered here. Or at least they want to explain away why their loving mother did this to them and didn't know that she did it.
56:18But Gail King here finds out and is shocked. She's just like, "Oh, oh, I I'm sorry. I got to sit with that. I can't I can't believe someone who happens to share my skin color would possibly think that this woman's not guilty by reason of insanity and it is the ultimate symbol right here because we have already demonstrated how all this majority female jury room was pressuring this hold out juror all week to change his opinion seemingly allegedly pure spec putting some words in his mouth to try to make this happen and are now going on this giant public tirade campaign many of them with their faces is out there to try to impeach his
56:56character, do all these different things. And I know nothing about this guy. I I we don't know anything about him right now. But what we do know is that he was the one person in there who's like, you know, maybe the kids actually are the victims here, which is the most important thing. So, to be clear, the nine women on this jury, at least of the ones we've seen, these are the exact kind of women who would have been out there with signs and holding up heart signs, not even just for Lindseay Clancy at this trial, but six years ago during George Floyd and everything with BLM, saying, you know, that every
57:26[ __ ] regular line that was pushed upon society at that time to basically apologize for every person who's ever existed and anything they would have ever done to someone who's a minority, which got way beyond the pale and obviously pissed off a lot of society.
57:42These are the exact types of people who would have been doing them. And what's ironic is that they would have been saying things at the time like, "Oh, we need to really amplify black and multi multicultural voices and put them at the forefront and take them seriously and listen to them. But when push comes to shove, according to this right here, we have a jury filled with those women pressuring the lone hold out who happens to be a black man." and then speaking out against him publicly after the fact and basically saying his opinion is wrong. In fact, it's almost criminal what he was doing cuz he was ignoring
58:17the law. So, the moment they get put to the test to actually put their money where their mouth is, and I don't know, and by the way, it should never be this way. It has nothing to do with race, but if you want to play their game, the moment they get put to the test and they have to amplify multicultural voices or whatever, they say, "Shut the [ __ ] up. Get in your place and do what we tell you what to do." If that's not the ultimate sign of the hypocrisy of the hypocrisy of America, I don't know what is of of the hypocrisy of some people in America, I should say.
58:45I don't know what is. And it's really really [ __ ] sad to me.
58:52>> God, I love this country.
58:53>> It's a great country.
58:54>> I love this country. So, I did talk with Vivian Kubri, Stanley Kubri's daughter, this week. We are not going to have time to get to that this week. I will go through that next week. I had a nice back and forth. I got permission from Vivian to share 90% of it on the record.
59:09There was one paragraph we removed that was that was a private paragraph between me and her. It was perfectly innocent, by the way. It was just very side note kind of thing. So, thank you to Vivian for reaching out on that. I will discuss that. Obviously, Stanley Kubri, her father, did Eyes Wide Shut. I've been talking about that the last couple episodes with some of the speculation on the missing footage. She has had a lot to say there in response to that and we had a nice little back and forth. So, I will get to that. And there's a couple other things as well that we did not get to. But I am going to take when when I see things
59:40that are common sense to me, I am willing to look at the evidence, build it, and be comfortable with the idea that if someone presents better evidence to me in the future, I will say I was wrong with the same volume with which I think I'm right right now. And right now, I feel very, very strongly about this Lindsey Clansancy huge distraction case. As I said, by the way, if in the future someone actually shows me good evidence, not the stuff I saw this week that was all shitty evidence at best, I'll apologize and I'll say, "You know what? Maybe maybe maybe she had no idea." But brother, sister, whoever's
60:16listening, she killed her kids. [clears throat] That said, give it a thought. Get back to me. Peace. Thank you guys for checking out this clip. If you haven't already subscribed, please subscribe and hit the like button on this video. It is a huge, huge help. And if you'd like to check out this clip's full podcast episode, that link is in the description below or right here. And finally, you can follow me on Instagram and X by using the links in my description below.
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